BAE Systems pleads guilty!

[Bujibuji Simba Nyamaume]

Tayari Lowassa, Subash Patel, Manji, Rostam na Kikwete wamesha gawana

Nice decision.
Shida ni: je tutaziona hizo pesa?

 

[NGULI]

Was just watching BBC News now, the breaking news came up that BAE have been fined £500,000 plus £250,000 costs in connection with Tanzania fraud and failure to keep records.

More details still to flow........

Todays (21.12.2010) Pound Mid Rate & Revalution stands at 2,2269.10 (against TZS )*500,000= 1,134,550,000.00 mbona ndogo hivi? da tukate rufaa huu ni uhuni huu.

 

[RayB]

Ukizingatia Hosea alikatazwa na JK (as per Guardian UK) kudeal na wakubwa kuhusu hili basi ni Aibu juu ya aibu mi nadhani inazidi kujidhihirisha kuwa wote ni vilaza na wezi watupu. I just imagining hii kesi ingekuwa bongo watuhumiwa wote wangewalk free hata hizo charges na fines zisingekuwepo. Sijui nani aje atuokoe sisi

 

[TIMING]

Ukizingatia Hosea alikatazwa na JK (as per Guardian UK) kudeal na wakubwa kuhusu hili basi ni Aibu juu ya aibu mi nadhani inazidi kujidhihirisha kuwa wote ni vilaza na wezi watupu. I just imagining hii kesi ingekuwa bongo watuhumiwa wote wangewalk free hata hizo charges na fines zisingekuwepo. Sijui nani aje atuokoe sisi

sasa yale mabilioni tunayapataje tena??

kweli tanzania ni sawa na shamba la ....................

 

[Zamazamani]

mantiki ya kulipwa Dowans ipo palepale..sababu wakisema watugawie wabongo wote milioni arobaini kila mtu atapata walau Tsh 1500 lakini wakilipwa Dowans ,wachache watafaidika na hela itakuwa ya kutosha na ndio italeta maana...........

 

[RayB]

Ni kidogo kuliko hata alizopata Chenge peke yake!!

£500,000= Tsh 1,126,849,941.20 ni hela ndogo sana ukilinganisha na waliyochita wao

 

[RayB]

sasa yale mabilioni tunayapataje tena??

kweli tanzania ni sawa na shamba la ....................

Hakuna dalili ya kuyapata kwa kuwa viongozi wenyewe wanaiogopa hiyo kesi kwani wamehusika sana then wanaogopa chochote watachofanya kinaweza kuwabackfire

 

[Teamo]

mods hebu fanyeni kuunganisha hizi thread mbili jamani......!

i ain't get them dots

 

[RayB]

Hao TBC wanamislead public

 

[The Finest]

Tanzania Tanzania nakupenda kwa moyo wote nchi yangu Tanzania jina lako ni tamu sana

 

[Rutashubanyuma]

BAE SENTENCED OVER PAYMENT RECORDS

BAE Systems will be sentenced for failing to keep proper records of payments to an adviser in Tanzan


Tuesday December 21,2010


Defence giant BAE Systems is due to be sentenced for failing to keep proper records of payments to an adviser in the east African country of Tanzania.

Payments totalling about 12.4 million US dollars (£7.7 million) were made to two companies controlled by Tanzania-based businessman Shailesh Vithlani between January 2000 and December 2005, Southwark Crown Court was told on Monday.

The company believes that Mr Vithlani was probably given the money for helping it win a contract to provide a radar system at Dar-es-Salaam international airport, the court heard. Some payments were through a company controlled by BAE plc, called Red Diamond, which was registered in the British Virgin Islands, Victor Temple QC, prosecuting for the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) said.

BAE pleaded guilty to one count of breaching its duty to keep accounting records contrary to section 221 of the Companies Act 1985 following a written settlement with the SFO on February 16, Mr Temple said.

During that time the company was also involved in plea negotiations with prosecuting authorities in the United States, and on March 1 it pleaded guilty to one offence of conspiring to impair and impede the lawful government functions of the United States, relating to its operations and business dealings in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. It was fined 400 million dollars (£280 million).

Mr Temple said BAE, in support of its overseas sales, would employ both "overt" and "covert" advisers, and the relationship with the latter was regarded as highly confidential.

Between September 1995 and September 1996 BAE executives were actively looking for ways to achieve maximum confidentiality with regard to the names of, and payments to, advisers, and Mr Vithlani was one such adviser.

Mr Temple said that BAE had accepted in the basis of plea that there was a high probability that part of the 12.4 million dollars would be used in the negotiation process to favour British Aerospace Defence Systems Limited (BAEDS), and that there was a high probability that the payments to Mr Vithlani were intended to compensate him for work done in seeking to persuade relevant persons to favour BAEDS in respect of the radar project.

"It is not now possible to establish precisely what Vithlani did with the money which was paid to him," he added. However, it was no part of the Crown's case that any part of those payments was improperly used in the negotiation process to favour BAEDS.

"To lobby is one thing, to corrupt another," he said. "The SFO's investigation ended with the plea agreement and the SFO has decided not to charge the company with any such offences. Further, the SFO readily acknowledges that the company has gone to very considerable lengths to ensure that the conduct giving rise to the offence is never again repeated and has instituted appropriate standards of compliance."


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[Teamo]

kuna thread hapo juu inahubiri hivi:

Hukumu imekushatolewa na BAE kuamuriwa Kulipa jumla ya sh bilioni 60,TANZANIA inatarajiwa kupewa zaidi ya bilioni 59.
Source:TBC 1
nawasilisha

sasa mimi sielewi helew mnavyosema ni hele ndogo

 

[RayB]

Tanzania Tanzania nakupenda kwa moyo wote nchi yangu Tanzania jina lako ni tamu sana

Naipenda hata mimi lakini viongozi wake mh?

 

[Jackbauer]

vipi kwa waliohusika?

wahusika gani?BAE syst walishutumiwa kwa kwa malipo yasiyo ya kawaida(zaidi ya £1000000000) kwenye nchi kama 9 hivi,kote huku wamejitetea kwamba ni 'account errors' lakini judge alitilia mashaka kwa upande wa Tanzania na kujiridhisha kuwa kuna harufu ya rushwa.

 

[RayB]

kuna thread hapo juu inahubiri hivi:


sasa mimi sielewi helew mnavyosema ni hele ndogo

Hao TBC nadhani wanamislead public hicho ndo kiwango cha hela jamaa wamemriwa kulipa na bado hawajabreakdwon kuwa Tanzania italipwa sh ngapi

 

[Rutashubanyuma]

Hukumu imekushatolewa na BAE kuamuriwa Kulipa jumla ya sh bilioni 60,TANZANIA inatarajiwa kupewa zaidi ya bilioni 59.
Source:TBC 1
nawasilisha

Hukumu hiyo haina uhusiano wowote ule na makubaliano kati ya BAE na serikali ya UK...........................where are you getting the damn lies?

Hivi kuna logic yoyote ile kuwalipa mafisadi na kuwapongeza kwa ujambazi dhidi ya raia wa TZ?

BAE SENTENCED OVER PAYMENT RECORDS

BAE Systems will be sentenced for failing to keep proper records of payments to an adviser in Tanzan


Tuesday December 21,2010


Defence giant BAE Systems is due to be sentenced for failing to keep proper records of payments to an adviser in the east African country of Tanzania.

Payments totalling about 12.4 million US dollars (£7.7 million) were made to two companies controlled by Tanzania-based businessman Shailesh Vithlani between January 2000 and December 2005, Southwark Crown Court was told on Monday.

The company believes that Mr Vithlani was probably given the money for helping it win a contract to provide a radar system at Dar-es-Salaam international airport, the court heard. Some payments were through a company controlled by BAE plc, called Red Diamond, which was registered in the British Virgin Islands, Victor Temple QC, prosecuting for the Serious Fraud Office (SFO) said.

BAE pleaded guilty to one count of breaching its duty to keep accounting records contrary to section 221 of the Companies Act 1985 following a written settlement with the SFO on February 16, Mr Temple said.

During that time the company was also involved in plea negotiations with prosecuting authorities in the United States, and on March 1 it pleaded guilty to one offence of conspiring to impair and impede the lawful government functions of the United States, relating to its operations and business dealings in the Czech Republic, Hungary, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. It was fined 400 million dollars (£280 million).

Mr Temple said BAE, in support of its overseas sales, would employ both "overt" and "covert" advisers, and the relationship with the latter was regarded as highly confidential.

Between September 1995 and September 1996 BAE executives were actively looking for ways to achieve maximum confidentiality with regard to the names of, and payments to, advisers, and Mr Vithlani was one such adviser.

Mr Temple said that BAE had accepted in the basis of plea that there was a high probability that part of the 12.4 million dollars would be used in the negotiation process to favour British Aerospace Defence Systems Limited (BAEDS), and that there was a high probability that the payments to Mr Vithlani were intended to compensate him for work done in seeking to persuade relevant persons to favour BAEDS in respect of the radar project.

"It is not now possible to establish precisely what Vithlani did with the money which was paid to him," he added. However, it was no part of the Crown's case that any part of those payments was improperly used in the negotiation process to favour BAEDS.

"To lobby is one thing, to corrupt another," he said. "The SFO's investigation ended with the plea agreement and the SFO has decided not to charge the company with any such offences. Further, the SFO readily acknowledges that the company has gone to very considerable lengths to ensure that the conduct giving rise to the offence is never again repeated and has instituted appropriate standards of compliance."

 

[The Finest]

Hakuna dalili ya kuyapata kwa kuwa viongozi wenyewe wanaiogopa hiyo kesi kwani wamehusika sana then wanaogopa chochote watachofanya kinaweza kuwabackfire

Hiyo hela waliotengeneza akina Vithlani,Chenge na Tanil na faini waliyopigwa hawa jamaa BAE nabaki kucheka na kushangaa
A

 

[Teamo]

Hao TBC nadhani wanamislead public hicho ndo kiwango cha hela jamaa wamemriwa kulipa na bado hawajabreakdwon kuwa Tanzania italipwa sh ngapi

dah!
tbc bana,
sasa hapo ni siku mbili tu baada ya kumuondoa TIDO.....!wakikaa mwaka?

 

[KALAMAZOO]

Sasa hapo kama kweli cdm wana meno wajitokeze kwa hili tuone.

Hivi JK anahusikaje kwa hili? sio Mkapa kweli aliyehusika?

Haya ni mambo ya kisheria na kwa vile wengi hum jf hawajui sheria ndio wanajiropokea tu. Afadhali yangu mimi niliyejisomea Madrasa

 

[RayB]

dah!
tbc bana,
sasa hapo ni siku mbili tu baada ya kumuondoa TIDO.....!wakikaa mwaka?

You tell me, its a big shame!