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Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread
Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread
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Camilo_Cienfuegos
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Watching Barcelona vs Napoli, I didn’t believe/ think if Barcelona would soon become so shambolic.
Aaron Arsenal
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Arteta na ndoto za kucheza 4-3-3 ,
siku za karibuni amekuwa akimtumia xhaka juu kidogo ya partey na nyuma kidogo ya odergad, na kutengeneza V shape au triange shape, ni dhahiri inaonesha ni aina gani ya kiungo arteta atamleta summer....
The main discussion points are the positions occupied by Xhaka and left-back Kieran Tierney, with the former acting as one of two advanced midfielders whilst the latter is positioned deeper, alongside Partey and Ben White, creating the commonly referred to 4-3-3 formation.
The question regularly asked is ‘why has Arteta opted for this specific change?’ and the simple answer is to reduce the predictability Arsenal play with.
Predominantly, final third activity under Arteta heavily involves Tierney operating high and wide, creating natural width, opening up space for the left winger to drift infield and delivering threatening crosses into the mixer, which makes perfect sense as his strongest assets lie in advanced areas.
Whilst an effective pattern that saw Arsenal create chances, it became a fairly predictable sequence and one that the opposition were becoming increasingly confident in defending against as time passed by.
Dropping Tierney deeper into the midfield line however does exploit his weaknesses, which revolve around his struggles in offering ball progression during the first and second phases of play.
The former Celtic defender has a tendency of clearing the ball out of play or into ‘no man’s land’ under pressure which results in Arsenal effectively losing control.
Meanwhile, Xhaka occupying higher positions prevents the 29-year-old from utilising his biggest strengths, which involves quickening the transition from defence to attack by delivering line-breaking passes into forward areas.
Both Xhaka and Tierney are therefore currently at a disadvantage, however, it’s clear that Arteta wants to coach the team to be comfortable in this shape as the long term benefits are significant.
The 4-3-3 or 2-3-2-3 is a great tool to overwhelm the opposition with a plethora of attacking players and it provides multiple passing options to the player in possession because of the natural creation of progressive triangles, which in turn leads to the formation of overloads that can occur across all areas of the pitch.
siku za karibuni amekuwa akimtumia xhaka juu kidogo ya partey na nyuma kidogo ya odergad, na kutengeneza V shape au triange shape, ni dhahiri inaonesha ni aina gani ya kiungo arteta atamleta summer....
The main discussion points are the positions occupied by Xhaka and left-back Kieran Tierney, with the former acting as one of two advanced midfielders whilst the latter is positioned deeper, alongside Partey and Ben White, creating the commonly referred to 4-3-3 formation.
The question regularly asked is ‘why has Arteta opted for this specific change?’ and the simple answer is to reduce the predictability Arsenal play with.
Predominantly, final third activity under Arteta heavily involves Tierney operating high and wide, creating natural width, opening up space for the left winger to drift infield and delivering threatening crosses into the mixer, which makes perfect sense as his strongest assets lie in advanced areas.
Whilst an effective pattern that saw Arsenal create chances, it became a fairly predictable sequence and one that the opposition were becoming increasingly confident in defending against as time passed by.
Dropping Tierney deeper into the midfield line however does exploit his weaknesses, which revolve around his struggles in offering ball progression during the first and second phases of play.
The former Celtic defender has a tendency of clearing the ball out of play or into ‘no man’s land’ under pressure which results in Arsenal effectively losing control.
Meanwhile, Xhaka occupying higher positions prevents the 29-year-old from utilising his biggest strengths, which involves quickening the transition from defence to attack by delivering line-breaking passes into forward areas.
Both Xhaka and Tierney are therefore currently at a disadvantage, however, it’s clear that Arteta wants to coach the team to be comfortable in this shape as the long term benefits are significant.
The 4-3-3 or 2-3-2-3 is a great tool to overwhelm the opposition with a plethora of attacking players and it provides multiple passing options to the player in possession because of the natural creation of progressive triangles, which in turn leads to the formation of overloads that can occur across all areas of the pitch.
Aaron Arsenal
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Unadhani kwann tumepoteza goals contribution kwa CF siku hizi kwa team karibia zote?
Structure of play ya modern football imewafukuza kwa kasi hawa CF wa kuweka mpira kambani ndo maana unaona ni wachache sana.
Ukitaja hapa hawafiki 20 kwa team 360😂
Ndo maana unamuona Laca amechange totally goals zimekauka kama Bob .
They contribute much but they score less.
Kwa sasa kupata a complete CF type ya Kane,Benzema ni ngumu sana asee.
Am not happy with Laca upande wa scoring but am clearly happy😊😂 kwa kile anachofanya since last season.
Kwa team zinazohitaji a CF to play ni mara chache kukuta akifunga goals nyingi coz anakuwa out of position muda mwingi ndo maana utakuta wings na CM wanafunga nowdays goals nyingi tofauti na zamani.
Siku hizi sio kituko kukuta wingback ana Assist 10+ na Goals 5+ kitu ambacho CF hana😂
kwa majukumu aliyonayo sasa, namfurahia sana laca, kule kufanya kwake link up play, ku hold, kunafanya timu iwe stable, kuanzia kiungo na ushambuliaji, weakness yake tu sio mzuri kwenye finishing,
kwasasa hawa CF waku tap in tu, wanaenda kupotea
Dusan ana score sana yes lkn akiwa out of 30 metres kuelekea kwa adui Hana msaada atakaokupa
One simple example to illustrate this is the effect of the centre forward dropping deep, as shown in the frame below. Lacazette coming into midfield not only drags Ozan Kabak (Norwich centre back) out of position but also ensures that Arsenal have a 4 vs 3 in their favour, which allows Partey to progress play forward.
Hii ndio advantage ya kuwa na CF mwenye kucheza mpira ....upende usipende atakufanya ucheze out of position.
Atapin up hamtoki salama mpaka mtumie extra ways...(1)
Atadrag mtamove out of position...(2)
Kwa haya mawili lazima team yake inufaike
SWALI JE NI FORWARD GANI ANAFAA KWA STAILI HII PALE ARSENAL ?
KUNA MAJINA YANATAJWA SANA, IVAN TONEY, VICTOR OSHMEN, LEWIN, LAUTARO, N.K
Aaron Arsenal
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Guardian projected lineups for Arsenal v Brentford
Kwa Smith Rowe baadaye weka Pepe
Camilo_Cienfuegos
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SiO baadaye, aanze
OllaChuga Oc
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Mkuu vip kwena,nitafute mkuu
Hua hajui kuachia mipira mapema na bado hajamaster kucut in na kuscore.
Mipira itakua inapotea unnecessarily na Brentford wako vizuri kwenye counter. Akiingia baadaye as fresh legs inaweza kumpa advantage.
Sema kama unauza watu wote tukutafute
OllaChuga Oc
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Arse8 Leo munapakatwa na Brighton
Go Brighton goooo piga mbuzi hawa..
mkorea
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Vijana wa Chelsea mna shida sana
Leo tunawakimbiza Brentford, angalia vizuri dogo
Hii Arsenal inayocheza na Brighton we umeipata wapi?
Will Jr
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Juzi hapa ilitokea Argument kwamba nilisema Arteta > Conte, nikaambiwa angalia CV. Sasa CV kwenye football!
Watu walitakiwa wajifunze kwa Pep wakati anaanza, hakuwa anamzidi CV Arsene Wenger / sir Alex but he destroyed them.
Mfano Xavi kwa idea yake tu unaona akipata a balanced squad anawin La liga next season, japo Ancellotti ana CV & Experienced kumzidi.
Unajua makocha wa kisasa advantage waliyonayo kwenye game wao wanapay attention kwenye kitu tunaita "phases of play" from build up to final third na wanajua quality & profile ya kuExcute idea zao, Viera, potter, Arteta, Xavi, Ten haag, Nigelsmann never write them off utaumia.
Newcastle Eddie howe kapata balance kidogo tu he won three games in a row, Football inachange, Japo Conte ni master na ukweli Conte anakosa the right profiles ila i rate Arteta high kuliko .
Will Jr
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Mbona huongelei Progression ? ball striking? Smith Rowe is the monster ni vile tu Martinelli is so good outlet kama Mo Salah.
Hiyo comment inamuongelea Pepe kwamba hajui kuachia mipira haraka na hajamaster kucut in.
So akianza muda ambao Brentford bado wana pumzi mipira itakua inapotea kutokea kwake na tutapigwa counter.
Bora aanze Emile kisha Pepe aje baadaye.
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