No problem at all.
Hold up, wait a minute. So the Premier stayed on but yet a precedent was set that a prime minister can be removed if deemed incompetent? You are contradicting yourself now. How can a precedent of removing a prime minister be set if the prime minister stayed? Ni wazi hujui hata maana ya precedent!!!!!!!!!!!
Precedent is in the vote, that has never happened before, you keep playing dumb and dumbing everything down to the minimum level, this is childish.
Jambo kuwa kubwa kwako si lazima liwe kubwa kwangu. Unajua maana ya precedent wewe?
'off the top of my head' -
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Trust me, i stopped worrying about my grammar in an informal public forum 20 years ago, i am not going to start worrying about that now. It seems this is all you have left. pettiness. sad.
You are a bundle of contradictions! One minute you say you don't remember off the top of your head and the next minute you say you "can confidently say" no one else from the opposition had a similar argument? You are a trip!
you probably missed "
toka upinzani Tanzania"
So, yes i don't remember from CCM but i am sure there is none from the opposition side. See..,
Kwa kulazimisha mafanikio ya ZITTO yawe individualistic, wakati it's common knowledge kwa mtu kuwa na mafanikio kama kiongozi,na akatoa credit kwa timu yake au washiriki wenzake.
It's the gentleman thing to do? Hapo unatafsiri 'uungwana' au....? Kwamba kufanya hivyo ni jambo la kiungwana?
Ukijijibu, sitajibu, kwani umeshajijibu.
Utaje huo mwaka na taja hizo hoja zililetwa lini mpaka lini ili nione kama kweli zilizizima (is that even a word?) mwaka mzima.
Tazama hansard za bunge yakhe, tusichoshane. Hoja zote zilizoletwa na wapinzani mwaka jana ziko kule. Burden of proof kuwa hoja haijazizima ( ka hujui kiswahili sio kosa langu yakhee) iko kwako. kama unadhani kuna wapinzani wameleta hoja nzito mwaka jana zilizojadiliwa kwa mapana na marefu mwaka mzima wataje wewe, na uzitaje wewe hizo hoja, mie nimesema hawapo wa kutosha, wewe unaodhania wapo wataje.
Viongozi gani wakuu wa serikali waliwajibika kutokana na hoja za Zitto?
Kama unamaanisha kuwa waziri mkuu wa Tanzania sio kiongozi mkuu wa serikali, au mawaziri waandamizi wa serikali sio viongozi wa serikali, au wenyeviti wa kamati za bunge zio viongozi wa serikali, then i guess umeamua kuleta ligi tu hapa.
Hakuna aliyekugeuzia kibao,kw akushindwa kuwataja hao viongozi wa CHADEMA waliotoa Hoja kumshinda ZITTO waliojaa viganja vya mkono unakubali "implicitly" kuwa zitto ni ametoa Hoja kuwazidi viongozi wengi wa CHADEMA, ni ngumu kutamka kama una vendetta, ila it's understandable.
Hahaaaa okay, but I'm not playing dumb. Don't get defensive when you can't answer a question. And it's okay to say 'I don't know' when you don't know.
Good job quoting out of context to divert what is clearly the fact that you are conceding the facts. You are playing DUMB by telling people to stop giving ZITTO credit for overseeing success of institution he leads, yet many people have no problem isolating JK when there is failure in the government he leads. The fact that it's clear the buck stops with the leader, and credits always goes to the leader, yet you are dennying credit to ZITTO for being a leader on the recipient end of these credits shows the side of you that has decided to play DUMB. Got it now?
Like when is making noise better than keeping quiet?
When corruption is rampant, when oppression is obvious, when the truth is hidden, the only time that keeping quite is the better option is when you have nothing of substance to contribute. I would take a politician who constantly remind the ruling party of the importance of good governance and transparency in governance, over one who sleeps in between parliamentary sessions.
But how do you know for fact that what they say is actually what they believe and not just talk to aimed at scoring popularity points?
They are politicians, scoring popularity points is part and parcel of their JOB. I am not naive to think Politicians are supposed to be humble. that's a trait i like out of my accountant. A good politician is supposed to be bold and open about what they believe and communicate that to his electorate as open as possible
Hapo awali kuna kiongozi gani aliyeweka fedha zake Uswisi?
CHENGE.
Hapo unajidhihirisha tu jinsi viwango vyako vilivyo chini. Unakuwa impressed na vitu vidogo vidogo mno. Huna tofauti na wale wanaoita wenzao 'vichwa' kwa kuongea mambo ya kawaida kabisa.
NO, I am a realist, I understand context, and i am discussing this based on existing political context in Tanzania.
We are where we are in Tanzania because our leaders have failed to take even the tinniest of steps to correct wrongs or oversee governance. We have had the ethics body for many years, but only this year we have seen them "waking up" and start questioning leaders ill gotten wealth. Hivi vidogo wanavyovifanya kina zitto ni vikubwa sana impact wise kwa ustawi na maendeleo ya nchi.i will take that anytime over empty promises of big things and results that never see the light of day. BRN comes to mind.
I don't expect for a Heathrow standards airport when i fly out of Luton the same way i don't expect a camry to be as powerful behind the wheel as LaFerrari. Call it whatever you want, but i have different expectation levels for different individuals, surroundings and situations. If you package everything into as single set of expectations then you must have a very "interesting" view of things.
Wewe ndo unadai wako wachache sana na kwamba hawajai kwenye viganja vya mikono ukiwahesabu. Kwa kusema hivyo natumai utakuwa unawajua maana unaweza hata kuwahesabu.
Nitajie basi hao wachache wasioweza kujaa viganjani?
kwa nini usiwataje hao wengi? Mie ninaoona wenye afadhali mule ndani ni Lisu, Mdee na Mnyika. Slaa nimemtoa kwa kuwa sio mbunge, mbowe kwa kuwa ni Mwenyekiti, kwa hiyo automatically ana chukua credit za timu yake yote. Waliobaki i don't see much. Haya nasubiri wewe unitajie hao wengi sasa..,ukumbi ni wako
Nami sikusema umesema Zitto hana mabaya. Unajihami bure tu.
Good.
The jury is still out on that so we shall see.
Sure, may we continue to live in interesting times
I think they are 10 times better now. And dare I say it was good riddance to bad rubbish.
A good "exact" figure with zero backup, care to put some meat on that sentence?
Best political event of the year? What was that?
Escrow Saga bungeni DODOMA.My opinion,yours?
CHADEMA can go on without him. He is expendable.
Of-course even NCCR went on without Mrema, as a shell of it's former self.
Actually ZITTO is not as big a loss to CHADEMA as what he stood for. For any serious politician in Tanzania, CHADEMA just portrayed themselves as a party that can not accept opposing views. CCM with all it's shortcomings has done a good job to accommodate opposing views at the higher spectrum of its leadership chain. Today you look at Lowasa, Magufuli, Membe, Wasira, Makamba, Mwigulu and countless other presidential hopefuls and you see a party that accommodates people with very polarized views of where the country should head. This in my opinion is the strongest CCM has been for a long time.
