Why has Americans given Tundu Lissu a silent treatment?

[Kitwa-Mulomoni]

Sio suala la CCM...amebugi sana jamaa kama anafikiri atapata chochote na hiyo mikutano yake

Mikutano inahudhuriwa na watu wangapi? Na wa aina gani? Let's be serious bajameni? Hata darasa la saizi ya madarasa ya shule za msingi zetu hayajai?

 

[ostrichegg]

Sio suala la CCM...amebugi sana jamaa kama anafikiri atapata chochote na hiyo mikutano yake

ULITAKA azunguke kumsifia muuaji ambae hakufanikiwa?

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[Zakaria Lang'o]

Tundu lissu ni mdogo zaidi ya piriton. Ukitoa vijana wanaolipwa mitandaoni wamuongelee, hana lolote.

Hana lolote!!!?Labda unaongea ukiwa umekunywa chang'aa au umevuta bangi. Siku Lisu amepigwa risasi Dodoma Nchi ilitikisika hadi waliofanya ushenzi huo wakapoteana wasijue la kufanya.
Hivi kwa makatazo yaliyofuata siku tatu baada ya tukio, wasingepoteana awali hata ndege isingetua Dodoma.

 

[muchetz]

Tundu Lissu's situation is a very sensitive matter, don't let others fool you into thinking that it is not. We are now walking in unchartered territory.

If Lissu was Chinese or Iranian, chances are high that he would've been received in Washington with a heroes welcome.

For a high profile politician like Lissu who just survived a serious attempt on his life to go to a high profile American university and be relegated to a mere classroom of hardly 30 people is a serious statement that some historian somewhere has noted down. Someone somewhere has also certainly appreciated that American gratitude! I can't help but to wonder what he is prepared to give them in return to show his appreciation.

To attentive eyes, Lissu's low key reception in Washington also reveals the importance of our stability to their interests.

Some of us, silent political analysts that is, have always been intrigued by the relationship between these two countries. I remember there is one thread I made years ago asking if this relationship is sort of Machiavellian. That is, two parties that don't really trust each other but have learned to use one another in a way that makes both parties happy but the mistrust is always there. There hasn't been a single person to expose this relationship for what it really is.

I am sure privately, American officials are expressing to Mr. Lissu how 'hurt' they are with his situation. They are probably trying not to cause any diplomatic rift with Tanzania, considering Tanzania had no problem kicking out the EU ambassador few months ago.

But to some of us their silence to this matter is not a mystery. Mr. Lissu has to promise them something bigger than they are receiving now from Tanzania if they are to say and do anything. Too bad the cold war is over and there is no Soviet Union to use as a bait against the Americans.

For some time, in my personal opinion I believe Lissu has been making some serious tactical and strategic mistakes. Now that he is caught between a rock and a hard place, it isn't going to be easier.

Lissu means well and he is certainly a very brave man. We should feel lucky to live in his lifetime and to witness the birth of a legend. If he can surround himself with very smart people, there is hope that history is going to favor him.

Mwalimu Nyerere once asked, "Watanzania, who is your uncle?" At the moment, it depends on which side on the curr8ent political climate you are on.

I hope its was during the night(while dreaming) you wrote your crap. Otherwise day dreaming is even worse!!!

 

[Rogojin The Idiot]

Mikutano inahudhuriwa na watu wangapi? Na wa aina gani? Let's be serious bajameni? Hata darasa la saizi ya madarasa ya shule za msingi zetu hayajai?

Watu gani wanaohudhuria? Madereva wa bodaboda?
Wengi hapo ni wasikilizaji tu. Akishatoka hapo yuko peke yake na familia yake. Tuache uongo. Hatafanikiwa

 

[luciferoriginal]

Lissu is proven a major spectacular failure all his life
Ni notorious liar


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[MPIGA ZEZE]

"Why has Americans given Tundu Lissu a silent treatment?"😵
Si ungeandika Kiswahili chetu na tungekuelewa! Hiki kibeberu kigumu - waachie mabeberu wenyewe.

 

[Kiyawi]

he is black, he will remain one

he can be treated as a king only, if only Americans are 100% he is a next president and that they will benefit from him

otherwise americans are only focusing on getting their business done!..taking minerals, gas etc. Lisu is just an insect disturbing them in their lunch time

Literal translation from Kiswahili to English![emoji38]

 

[Nowonmai]

So are you trying to sell us the notion that Mr Lissu's tour is all about revenge? Hard to swallow I would say. On a lighter note I compliment you on been a perfectly normal kid. All children have these fantasies of vengeance to someone for real or imaginary offences.

It is OK to dream.One time I was beaten by a police because I insulted a traffic police when he stopped our hired school bus that was driven by a driver who had no driving license when we were going to a disco after graduation.After that severe beating when I slept I dreamed that I have been appointed a chief of police in Tanzania by the president .And the first thing I did after appointment in that dream I fired that police who beat me from the job and I ordered him to be jailed for life for beating me.When I woke up my body was swollen and I felt pain all over my body my mother had to send me to hospital for treatment.And when they asked me My Job I said I have no job I just finished secondary school. I was not a chief of police that I dreamed!!! It is OK to dream let him and whoever go ahead

 

[Kiyawi]

Please usidanganye mchana kweupe. Acacia own 36.1% but barrick own 63.9%. Also remember ACACIA have a power to reject agreement between Tanzania and Barrick. Pia tambua upto now barrick agreed nothing. Above this not only acacia issue their so many problems caused by magufuli. What about European ambassador? Etc what about gas resources?. Do you know why magufuli opted for water electrical power?. Because he no our gas is not ours and just what he did is to impose bitter mining and gas act. Are you their?

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How on could you say gas from Mtwara is NOT ours! Please substantiate(weka nyama kidogo) was the contract between China and Tanzania not signed by the Tanzanian Government? or was gas wholeheartedly given to Chinese companies just like the way Airtel(CELTEL or NetCel or Airtel) given freely to foreign entities?!! Tanzania at last has been favored with a President who resembles Mwl Nyerere in deeds Hon Dr Magufuli! I definitely believe he will take appropriate action regarding the Mtwara gas scandal! and those who authorized and signed the contracts should be brought to books whether they are angels or devils!!

 

[Patriot]

You people are talking about the support from the American government to the cause. Your line of thinking is completely blurred.
I don't think if Lisu or anyone from Chadema wants that, simply because it's not necessary in achieving the required goal.
The fight against Tanzania government brutality against it's citizens need support of some of the powerful people from America, Europe and the world at large.
It's good that

the ugly tiger is being exposed by its true colors. Honorable Tundu Lisu is doing a blessed job. I thank God for Lisu's mission.

Hebu nikuulize kwa kiswahili labda nitakuelewa. Ni wapi rais amekuwa 'brutal?' vyeti feki? watumishi hewa? Kikokotoo? au wapi? Unasema anyone in CHADEMA hataki hiyo support? Kweli ila nachokiona ni paralysis ya viongozi wa CHADEMA baada ya Lissu kuanza mikutano yake. Tumemsahau hata Mbowe na Matiko. Yeye mwenyewe Lissu, hilo la akina Mbowe, siyo topic yake!

 

[DrLove69]

You people are talking about the support from the American government to the cause. Your line of thinking is completely blurred.
I don't think if Lisu or anyone from Chadema wants that, simply because it's not necessary in achieving the required goal.
The fight against Tanzania government brutality against it's citizens need support of some of the powerful people from America, Europe and the world at large.
It's good that

the ugly tiger is being exposed by its true colors. Honorable Tundu Lisu is doing a blessed job. I thank God for Lisu's mission.

Bullcrap!

 

[Patriot]

A long journey begins with a mile! An audience of 30 at GW university was a crowd by Lissus stature but it was a milestone! It will be a long walk to freedom, a long tortuous road of blood shedding, pain, toil, tears and frustrations; the walk has just began! Watch this space!

I noticed glaring ignorance among Tanzanians US audience. They kept citing outcries noted over the networks; blogs, Insta., fb, etc. So they are also swayed to say we are in problem! I may not need to blame them because US life gives you limited time for analyzing Tanzanian life.

 

[Shoctopus]

Kiingereza cha mataputapu!

 

[Turnkey]

TL hajielewi huko huko aliko hawawezi kumwacha Msaliti wa Taifa akaishi Kwa namna yoyote ile. Kutokuelewa na kujitambua kwake huko amegeuzwa toy Zuzu. Hakuna kibaya duniani Kama usaliti Kwa nchi, Wanajeshi wanapambana Kwa hali yoyote kulinda na kuipigania nchi na Wengine hupoteza Maisha.
Mwache ageuzwe Mdoli wa TZ za ughaibuni.

Vijana wetu wanakufa Congo kila siku..wanapigania nchi???

 

[Mayonene]

Those are Europeans I think you are confusing somewhere.Europeans are easy to be cheated not Americans.Americans have methods of verifying every word in a sentence that you write or speak .They verify even commas,full stops,question marks etc.But Europeans they take everything wholesale no verification . If Tundu Lisu or chadema says this they take that wholesale as the only reliable truth!!!!!!! And parade with it to European Union!!!!!!!

You may be having a "selective memory" the Americans wrote such a letter at almost the same time as the Europeans. Those burgers normally work together. We just have to find a way to mitigate potential problems they pose to us as a country. It is too dangerous sit down and hope for the best we some how have to manage this.

 

[DrLove69]

Try to think about ACACIA issue, Gas and other natural resources. Is the way magufuli moving with American and western?. How much investment up to now magufuli destroyed?. Don't fool yourself their something wrong with magufuli administration and this will be the core source of Tundu Lissu to take over through American.

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You are naive and an empty set. Do you have a clue about Americans World stance on Oil, gas and Other NRs!?
Do you even have a clue about what you are trying to explain on your impassive post?
Pathetic!

 

[Msarendo]

thank you for your conspiracy theory

 

[DrLove69]

You may be having a "selective memory" the Americans wrote such a letter at almost the same time as the Europeans. Those burgers normally work together. We just have to find a way to mitigate potential problems they pose to us as a country. It is too dangerous sit down and hope for the best we some how have to manage this.

To understand the magnitude of Hypocrisy Of Americans and Europeans;one has to look deep into their motives and justification on the World's issues about Oil, Gas and other NRs.
Go find a Documentary TALIBAN OIL....might help you and others to shed light on a true colours and motives behind so called Americans and Europeans Democracy policies on Countries rich in Natural Resources.

 

[MTK]

I noticed glaring ignorance among Tanzanians US audience. They kept citing outcries noted over the networks; blogs, Insta., fb, etc. So they are also swayed to say we are in problem! I may not need to blame them because US life gives you limited time for analyzing Tanzanian life.

By your own enlightened opinion, is everything very alright in Tanzania?! kaboy dont play Ostritch games here by hiding only your head in the sand and pretending you cant be seen well as the entire torso is wide open!