Wakina baba/kaka

[mhogo mtamu3]

Siku hizi si ajabu kumkuta mwanaume anapigwa na mke wake/mpenzi wake, kaka zangu mkipigwa na wake zenu/wapenzi wenu mnauwezo wa kuyahadithia nje? Hii ni janga lililoibuka na wanaume wengi wanaumizwa ndani ya nyumba lakini hawana uwezo wa kuyasema nje.

Watakua ni wavulana hao

 

[Ndakilawe]

Noumer, huko kenya ni kawaida

 

[kui]

Big changes came after the WW I and II, alot of men died during the war and left wives and children at home. While men were at the front line, women had to be trained for jobs such as bus/train drivers, factory jobs, health care, hospitality and so on, life had to keep moving and so as economic. That theme of a man is a bread winner is a thing of medieval era. But the constitution of marriage was created for two grown up adult to live together, support each other, have children and to teach those children how to interact and engage with the world. So having a wife or a husband beater is not acceptable at all.

This's what I was thinking, stay-at-home wives/moms was more popular then, not now.
But there's men like mzabzab who want their women out of work, which is not bad.

But then it's kind of risky, in case something happens to the man and he's not able to provide for the family anymore.(I always think about this) When you make these kind of decisions that you'll be a sole provider for the family, you have to make sure you're secure financially. Just in case.

 

[Valentina]

Mweeh mwanamke unaanzaje kumkunja ME!

 

[Zogwale]

Atakuwa ameoa bounsa la kutoka Mkoa wa Mara huyo si bure!!! Hao wako ngumi nje nje tu.

 

[kui]

1) i will take ur comment as a compliment and let it be know to you, that am not one who is afraid to go against the grain. the popularity of a certain practice does not necessarily make it right. e.g siku hzi kugegedana kabla ya ndoa ni thinking ya kisasa but it certainly isnt right. so where as my thinking myt not fit "our time" it is certainly without a shadow of a doubt right.

2) unasema hiyo ilikuwa zaidi zamani, this somehow links with the first point concerning "our time" and "their time" ndio wanaume wanaangalia mwanamke anafanya kazi gani and all that becoz tayari wanaume wa "our time" have the mentality that women should do these "extra" jobs which to me is just secondary duties. primary duty yake mwanamke ndio kama hivyo "kugegedwa, kuzaa kulea". to add to that, pamoja na kwamba wanaangalia mwanamke anafanya kazi gani it still does not extricate a man from his duties ya kuprovide katika familia, his primary duty. ask those with experience and they will testify that to marry a working woman and expect that it will go 50/50 is to live in denial. wewe mwanaume unaweka mafuta kwenye gari la mkeo, utatibia wazazi wake, utalipa school fees, utajenga wewe etc.

3) please do understand ninaposema mwanamke yeye ni "kugegedwa, kuzaa na kulea" dnt mean kwamba ni lazima ake nyumbani tuu. hizo zilizotajwa hapo juu ndio primary duties zake. kuwa pilot, engineer ni extras which have no relevance if one can not perform the fundamentals mentioned above. so kui by all means nenda kuwa marketer or rocket scientist but dnt forget the fundamentals.
usijidanganye kuwa eti wanawake hawata depend kwa wanaume financially, thats just a fallacy that "haki sawa kwa wote" preaches but only exist as a defacto. mwanamke alie olewa ata depend kwa mwanaume finacially even if she is a working class woman. that is how it is.

Mzabzab I already mentioned that I have no problem with your idea, it is, without a shadow of a doubt right on your own way. What I was against with, is how you phrased it, It was out of context. It sounded like all us women should not have any business working but stay at home and make babies. But truth is we're capable of doing more than that.

This can be a matter of an agreement between a husband and a wife, if she should just stay at home and take care of children, while the husband works. I know some women who did this.

Nimeelewa pia point yako kuwa mwanaume, first and foremost, need to be responsible for his family hata kama mkewe anafanya kazi. True.
Lakini sijakuelewa unaposema mwanamke hata kama anafanya kazi, will still depend on her husband financially.

And as Sky Eclat mentioned above about how some working class women forget their duties as wives, something that brings up marital problems every now and then. I agree to some extent.

My understanding is this, a working woman should still play her part well as a wife /mother to make sure her family is well taken care of even though she works. Since a family is the most important thing.
But we also need to remember that husbands should be there to help their wives when needed, Something that nyie kaka zetu huwa mnapinga.

 

[mzabzab]

Mweeh mwanamke unaanzaje kumkunja ME!

mluguru wewe mweeh

 

[mzabzab]

Mzabzab I already mentioned that I have no problem with your idea, it is, without a shadow of a doubt right on your own way. What I was against with, is how you phrased it, It was out of context. It sounded like all us women should not have any business working but stay at home and make babies. But truth is we're capable of doing more than that.

This can be a matter of an agreement between a husband and a wife, if she should just stay at home and take care of children, while the husband works. I know some women who did this.

Nimeelewa pia point yako kuwa mwanaume, first and foremost, need to be responsible for his family hata kama mkewe anafanya kazi. True.
Lakini sijakuelewa unaposema mwanamke hata kama anafanya kazi, will still depend on her husband financially.

And as Sky Eclat mentioned above about how some working class women forget their duties as wives, something that brings up marital problems every now and then. I agree to some extent.

My understanding is this, a working woman should still play her part well as a wife /mother to make sure her family is well taken care of even though she works. Since a family is the most important thing.
But we also need to remember that husbands should be there to help their wives when needed, Something that nyie kaka zetu huwa mnapinga.

mwanamke ata kama anafanya kazi ata-depend kwa mumme financially in the sense kuwa mwanamke bado atakuwa mgumu kuchangia majukumu ya nyumbani 50/50. finacially ata taka mwanamume ahudumie ndio hiyo ku-depend financialy nakomaanisha.

wakaka wanapinga ku-help wake zao when they need to !!?? who u been dating?

 

[Valentina]

mluguru wewe mweeh

He hee

 

[kui]

mwanamke ata kama anafanya kazi ata-depend kwa mumme financially in the sense kuwa mwanamke bado atakuwa mgumu kuchangia majukumu ya nyumbani 50/50. finacially ata taka mwanamume ahudumie ndio hiyo ku-depend financialy nakomaanisha.

wakaka wanapinga ku-help wake zao when they need to !!?? who u been dating?

Hahah!, kwani sio nyie mnao chagua kufanya kazi za ndani?
Sio kwamba napendekeza mfate hivo lakini hamko 100% willing kusaidia wake zenu. Ndo ukweli. Tusemage tu.

Halafu mtu kama wote mnafanya kazi utakuwa vipi dependent. Kwani as a family you don't put money together and plan hii iende hapa na hii pale?!,...now I see why finances is number one issue in marriages.
Anyways, may be we should put this to rest.

 

[mzabzab]

Hahah!, kwani sio nyie mnao chagua kufanya kazi za ndani?
Sio kwamba napendekeza mfate hivo lakini hamko 100% willing kusaidia wake zenu. Ndo ukweli. Tusemage tu.

Halafu mtu kama wote mnafanya kazi utakuwa vipi dependent. Kwani as a family you don't put money together and plan hii iende hapa na hii pale?!,...now I see why finances is number one issue in marriages.
Anyways, may be we should put this to rest.

dah! yani nilivyoone umeniqoute tena nilisema hapa nitamwambia bwana bidada yaishe maana naona tutaendelea mpaka mwisho wa dunia kumbe nawe umeona hilo. was nice excanging views though. thought provoking to say the least

 

[KACHINJA]

Siku hizi si ajabu kumkuta mwanaume anapigwa na mke wake/mpenzi wake, kaka zangu mkipigwa na wake zenu/wapenzi wenu mnauwezo wa kuyahadithia nje? Hii ni janga lililoibuka na wanaume wengi wanaumizwa ndani ya nyumba lakini hawana uwezo wa kuyasema nje.

ushaidi angalau wa picha basi

 

[Mokoyo]

Haki sawa

 

[kui]

dah! yani nilivyoone umeniqoute tena nilisema hapa nitamwambia bwana bidada yaishe maana naona tutaendelea mpaka mwisho wa dunia kumbe nawe umeona hilo. was nice excanging views though. thought provoking to say the least

Tehe!, teh!,...same here!

Glad to know there's still wonderful men as you, out there, who'd 'take care of the business' 100%.
Good to know! 🙂

 

[pilato93]

nikikupiga unalalamika nikikuacha kukupiga unalalamika nikikuacaha unipige bado unalalamika kweli nimeamini mwanamke haridhiki

 

[filonos]

huyo mke Madein Tarime au Shay.... wengine hawawezi kupiga mtu.....

 

[mzurimie]

Wale wasiojua kujisimamia kusaka pesa au kujijenga kimaisha na kusubiria mke au kwanamke ndio wengi wao hufanyiwa hivyo.