ZeMarcopolo
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The idea of establishing CHADEMA is home grown. The idea of establishing branches abroad is "hopeless" particularly because Tanzania communities abroad contitute in most cases of people who are just surviving there...that is Tanzanian community have failed to cross economic boundaries and make a significant mark abroad particularly in USA and UK.In addition most of the Tanzanians seen in the so called branches abroad are petty orpurtunists who wants a ticket to come home as political leaders which in anyway you want to look at it is absurd.
Considering that the economy of our country is in the toilet it's a good idea to have branches overseasThe idea of establishing CHADEMA is home grown. The idea of establishing branches abroad is "hopeless" particularly because Tanzania communities abroad contitute in most cases of people who are just surviving there...that is Tanzanian community have failed to cross economic boundaries and make a significant mark abroad particularly in USA and UK.In addition most of the Tanzanians seen in the so called branches abroad are petty orpurtunists who wants a ticket to come home as political leaders which in anyway you want to look at it is absurd.
Wakati mwingine mtanzania aliyeko abroad anaweza kuwa mfuatiliaji mzuri wa masuala ya nyumbani kuliko hata yule aliye Tanzania. Kuna watu wako abroad ukiwauliza leo kimejadiliwa nini bungeni watakwambia kila kitu, kuna wengine wako Magomeni hawajui na wala hawako interested kujua nini kinaendelea!
Chukulia mfano owner wa blog ya wavuti (Subi Nukta) shes uptodate about the happenings in Tanzania kuliko walioko Bongo. Sasa unaweza kusema Subi hana interest na maendeleo ya Bongo just because yuko abroad?
Matawi nje ya nchi yapo sana tu. Sio official kiivo ila vyama vinawakilishwa
Kuna hata "special missions" ya vyama katika humanitarian interventions,
Katika international conferences. Vyama vinaenda kua international sasa.
Diaspora, hasa ya Africa, ina wasomi wengi na watu wenye capabilities nyingi
kuliko watanzania walio ndani ya nchi, (please read this in proportion)
Mfano mdogo tu: Jamii Forum ilianzishwa na diaspora (tunaskia).
kwa kule ughaibuni kua na internet acces, na kua na political awareness fulani
ni mambo ya kawaida sana, wanao yaona na kuyaiga toka kwa wenyeji wao huko
baadae wanali-transplant in the Tanzanian context for the benefit of all Tanzanians
Huku ndani ya nchi bado ukisema wanaku-ulimboka, wanaku-mwakyembe
Vita vya madaraka haviwezi kupelekwa bila kuwaingiza watanzania wa nje!
leo hao wananchi wa nje wanaonekana kua na influence kubwa sana kisiasa
Kiuchumi, kimasomo, kisanaa, kijamii na misaada/influence zingine nyingi sana
kwa ndugu na rafiki zao walio ndani ya nchi. Hivo ni muhimu kuhakikisha kua
chama kinawapata huko walipo na kinaingiza sera zao ndani ya siasa zake.
Matawi nje ya nchi yapo sana tu. Sio official kiivo ila vyama vinawakilishwa
Kuna hata "special missions" ya vyama katika humanitarian interventions,
Katika international conferences. Vyama vinaenda kua international sasa.
Diaspora, hasa ya Africa, ina wasomi wengi na watu wenye capabilities nyingi
kuliko watanzania walio ndani ya nchi, (please read this in proportion).......
Hao waliopo nje ni Watanzania na inawahusu sana mienendo ya nchini kwao kwa mustakabali wao na wa watoto zao huku nyumbani.
Sema nawasikitikia Watanzania wa nje wanapoamuwa kujiunga na chadema, vimichango vyao vya kujenga chama vikifika huku, vinakopwa na mjanja mmoja. Kwi kwi kwi teh teh teh!
wana forum na wataalamu wa siasa za bongo naombeni mnijuze hili swala manake sielewi, je kuna umuhimu gan wa vyama vya siasa kuwa na matawi nje ya nchi? Na je wanachama wanaweza kupiga kura wakiwa nje ya nchi? may be online voting?
hiv kuna nchi yeyote ya dunia ya kwanza ambayo vyama vyake vya siasa vina matawi nje ya nchi? (to be specific ni Africa)
usipoitaja CHADEMA naona siku huwa haiendi vizur kwa upande wako kuonyesha ni jinsi gani M4C inakukosesha usingizi 'na bado'.
Ha ha ha sawa bana kumbe aki-update to shilingi ya Tanzania ina stabiliza na barabara mashimo yanazibika automatically.........tuache longo longo wabongo jamani
What are the significances of having diaspora???? Just a list please no explanations needed.....i mean just provide a skeleton fleshes will develop with time
Well, ukinisoma vizuri nilisema ku impact yao kwa sasaRed; Impact yao so far iko wapi na usomi wao kwa mwananchi wa kawaida pale Ibuti Gairo.....kuna machapisho wametoa ili japo wanafunzi wa vyuo wasome na kupanua fikra????
the lack of direct positive impact cannot be blamed on the diasporaBlue; Say it true JF is a product of diaspora.....members wa humu ni wa class gani, .........I mean the access is limited to you and me because tumeshiba na tushapulizia deodorants ndo tunabofya hapa.....think of threads za walimu, madaktari na sasa SSRA wat can be deduced as the direct impact of us typing and shifting the blame......while the status remains static????
Kwani siasa ni nini per essence? si ni vita vya madaraka?Green; There you have brought the point home........ni vita ya madaraka nothing else.....wa nje wanataka gaps to get in na wa ndani wanataka support kutoka nje......game of chance no sustainability, no permanent mission than hopes and interests from both sides
Nakubali hata mimi, but this is not the point (or I've missed it)Indians in Diaspora are prohibited by law to practice politics in India. Reason reason being outside mindset should not influence leadership in the country.
I tend to agree with them because after being abroad one tend to bring home " hangovers" from where he/she coming from.
In short as much as aliens can contribute in development in terms of knowledge / exposure they should not be given leadership for change.
Indians in Diaspora are prohibited by law to practice politics in India. Reason reason being outside mindset should not influence leadership in the country.
I tend to agree with them because after being abroad one tend to bring home " hangovers" from where he/she coming from.
In short as much as aliens can contribute in development in terms of knowledge / exposure they should not be given leadership for change.
Indians in Diaspora are prohibited by law to practice politics in India. Reason reason being outside mindset should not influence leadership in the country.
I tend to agree with them because after being abroad one tend to bring home " hangovers" from where he/she coming from.
In short as much as aliens can contribute in development in terms of knowledge / exposure they should not be given leadership for change.
@Richard
Kati ya yoote uliyoainisha ni nini haswa hakiwezekani na sisi wa ndani mpaka diaspora ndo ifanye......hayo mapungufu ulotaja ni zao la kukosa uzalendo iwe matumizi mabaya au poor qualities za miradi....so ni ubutu wa usimamizi na wala sio function ya residence ie Tanzania vs Abroad
Na kama we stick to professional ethics yote yanawezekana bila hata ya watu wa diaspora mkuu....let us be realistic when it comes to serious matters...
If you real mean the business come over and join hands to push this country uphills......satellite participation and monitoring is not a good methodology so far..........we need something more serious
Hapo bold I guess you meant STUPID LAWS...Stupids Indians....
wasn't Mahatma Gandhi from South Africa??????