USA Presidential IQ Report

[The Father of All]

Prove your point if you mean what you mean.

This is laughable. Obama is not more intelligent than Bill Clinton.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

bollywood....Raj Patel aka The Truth aka Ukweli....anyone?:becky:

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Prove your point if you mean what you mean.

If you know anything you would know that is it absolutely difficult to quantify intelligence.

 

[The Father of All]

If that is the case why then boldly state that Obama insn't more intelligent than your clinton? Think more boy.

If you know anything you would know that is it absolutely difficult to quantify intelligence.

 

[Mulhat Mpunga]

Hivi huyu JK wetu IQ inaweza kufika ngapi?

nani anajua

 

[bollywood]

Hahaha, you are arguing with DNA evidence spanning a wide branch of the Sally Hemmings side.

This guy couldn't even control his impulses and you want us to look up to him as this genius?

DNA evidence could have come from any male Jefferson not necessarily Thomas Jefferson. As far as I know there has never been any conclusive evidence to prove that Thomas Jefferson raped his slave.

 

[Kiranga]

DNA evidence could have come from any male Jefferson not necessarily Thomas Jefferson. As far as I know there has never been any conclusive evidence to prove that Thomas Jefferson raped his slave.

You need to read this book.

The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family: Annette Gordon-Reed: 9780393337761: Amazon.com: Books

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/books/review/Foner-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[bollywood]

If you know anything you would know that is it absolutely difficult to quantify intelligence.

Actually we can quantify intelligence with IQ scores. Refer to my previous link on the defense of IQ tests.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

If that is the case why then boldly state that Obama insn't more intelligent than your clinton? Think more boy.

That speaks to all you Obama stans who make him out to look like he's the best thing since sliced bread when in fact, he is not.

 

[bollywood]

You need to read this book.

The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family: Annette Gordon-Reed: 9780393337761: Amazon.com: Books

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/books/review/Foner-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The Hemingses of Monticello: An American Family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your links do not have DNA results that show Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemmings. Historians differ all the time. What I need is scientific evidence.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Actually we can quantify intelligence with IQ scores. Refer to my previous link on the defense of IQ tests.

Yeah, but there is no consensus of scientific opinion about that yet.

 

[bollywood]

Yeah, but there is no consensus of scientific opinion about that yet.

In science you hardly ever have consensus. On top of that, IQ scores deniers a lot of times are politically motivated.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

In science you hardly ever have consensus.

Right, which goes to show you that a lot of things in this world have not yet been conclusively settled and quiet possibly never will be.

On top of that, IQ scores deniers a lot of times are politically motivated.

I'll have to agree with you on this one since I've seen instances of it.

 

[Kiranga]

Your links do not have DNA results that show Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemmings. Historians differ all the time. What I need is scientific evidence.

You don't have scientific evidence that Jefferson even existed, if you want to take that approach.

 

[Kiranga]

In science you hardly ever have consensus. On top of that, IQ scores deniers a lot of times are politically motivated.

Funny you should say that while the history of IQ is riddled with eugenics, racial supremacy and a whole bunch of goldilocks abracadabra.

 

[bollywood]

Right, which goes to show you that a lot of things in this world have not yet been conclusively settled and quiet possibly never will be.

People who deny validity or existence of IQ scores must come up with an alternative explanation or measurement of different mental capacities among people. Until then IQ scores is the best we have.

 

[bollywood]

You don't have scientific evidence that Jefferson even existed, if you want to take that approach.

How is this equal to my approach? I am not denying existence of Sally Hemmings. I am not even denying Jefferson family DNA in her family trees, I think they have proved that much. I am questioning automatically labeling Thomas Jefferson as the source of that DNA. Also when you think about it, you can't say Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemmings then question his existence.

 

[Kiranga]

How is this equal to my approach? I am not denying existence of Sally Hemmings. I am not even denying Jefferson family DNA in her family trees, I think they have proved that much. I am questioning automatically labeling Thomas Jefferson as the source of that DNA. Also when you think about it, you can't say Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemmings then question his existence.

You want me to provide DNA results through a hypertext link? I can ask you the same thing to prove Jefferson existed at all, and you wouldn't be able to.

Or even if you were to somehow provide, if I am bent on being oppositional, I could very easily dismiss the DNA as being prone to be from any of the Jeffersons.

Look, there is a weight of undisputable evidence by any stretch of reason. This is a matter of common knowledge for anyone who puts the least amount of effort.

Hujasoma kitabu wala review usharukia huoni DNA evidence, umeambiwa tuko lab hapa?

Bottom line, quantifying intelligence is as sensible as telling the color of the national anthem.

 

[bollywood]

Funny you should say that while the history of IQ is riddled with eugenics, racial supremacy and a whole bunch of goldilocks abracadabra.

That's not the fault of IQ if people use them for political motives or immoral activities. What's happening now is people use politics to suppress science. But you can't deny reality. Some people are smart and some people are dumb. That's just the way it is no matter how much political correctness says it is not so.

 

[bollywood]

You want me to provide DNA results through a hypertext link?

Or you can provide me a link that says DNA tests were conducted and determined Thomas Jefferson fathered Sally Hemmings children.

I can ask you the same thing to prove Jefferson existed at all, and you wouldn't be able to.

Go ahead and ask. My reply would be a link to your own post where you claimed Thomas Jefferson raped Sally Hemmings.

Or even if you were to somehow provide, if I am bent on being oppositional, I could very easily dismiss the DNA as being prone to be from any of the Jeffersons.

I think my demands are a little more reasonable than yours wouldn't say? I am questioning paternity, you on the other hand are questioning the actual existence of the third president of the United States. Something I might add, no other historian that I know of has questioned. My questions of Sally Hemmings paternity have been raised by other historians too.

Look, there is a weight of undisputable evidence by any stretch of reason. This is a matter of common knowledge for anyone who puts the least amount of effort.

We don't prove paternity by common knowledge, we prove it using science. Until you can do it, I say you are simply smearing Thomas Jefferson as a rapist.

Hujasoma kitabu wala review usharukia huoni DNA evidence, umeambiwa tuko lab hapa?

I have heard and read this garbage before that's why I am disputing it.

Bottom line, quantifying intelligence is as sensible as telling the color of the national anthem.

Actually if believe to deny intelligence indicators/scores that's fine. What you can't deny is some people are just better at things that require mental capabilities than you are. For instance, no matter how much you try, what you eat, what you wear, where you live, you would not invent a scientific theory like Einstein did. So, deny all you want but reality will not change.