Ngoja niisome hiyo article....Ila before I do so...wengine tuna first hand experience na South..
Ipi hiyo experience yako? Southern hospitality and eating Georgia peaches (u know what I mean by this...lol)
Hii ni cover story ya Newsweek toleo la Aug 11th 2008...good stuff
For as long as I've been alive the old Confederacy has been a land without closure, where history keeps coming at you day after day, year after year, decade after decade, as if the past were the present, too, and the future forever. Cities grew and populations changed in the South, but the Civil War lurked somehow in the shadow of mirror-sided skyscrapers; the holocaust of slavery and the sweet-bitter victories of the civil-rights movement lingered deep in the minds of people on both sides of the color line. Yes there was change, progress, prosperity, and a lot of it. Southerners put their faith in money and jobs and God Almighty to get them to a better place and better timesand for a lot of them, white and black, those times came. The South got to be a more complicated place, where rich and poorwhich is pretty much all there was before World War IIgave way to a broad-spectrum bourgeoisie with big-time aspirations. But as air conditioning conquered the lethargy-inducing climate and Northerners by the millions abandoned the rust belt for the sun belt, the past wasn't forgotten or forgiven so much as put aside while people got on with their lives and their business.
Now this part of the country, where I have my deepest roots, feels raw again, its political emotions more exposed than they've been in decades. George W. Bush and Barack Hussein Obama have unsettled the South: the first with a reckless war and a weakened economy, the second with the color of his skin, the foreignness of his name, the lofty liberalism of his language. Suddenly the palliative prosperity that salved old, deep wounds no longer seems adequate to the task.
Last month I set out driving through Tennessee, Georgia and the Carolinas, roughly retracing the deepest scar in the countrythe blazing track of total war left by Union Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman in 1864 and 1865. After many years away I was exploring my own blood ties (which include an ancestor named after Sherman by his slave-owning-yet-Unionist parents), but also gauging the tenor of a region that has been critical to every U.S. presidential election since 1932, and may be again. "If you don't win anything in the South, you need 70 percent of the rest of the country," says Merle Black, a political scientist at Emory University in Atlanta. "If you can win some of the South, that gives you breathing space." Polls suggest Virginia is in play. And the Obama campaign is approaching North Carolina and Georgia as if they might be, although like most people, Black (who is white, and from east Texas, which is deep in Dixie) thinks John McCain will win in both those states if only as the default candidate, the un-Obama.
The South I saw was troubled by changes that go well beyond this "change" election. A generation is growing up with traumas more immediate than those of the 1860sor the 1960s. Shana Sprouse, 21 and white, and born and raised in Spartanburg, S.C., says she's going to vote for Obama because her 26-year-old boyfriend is racked with cancer and she and he have spent the last two years trying to find ways to pay for his treatment or, now, his hospice. Jobs are disappearing to places that are truly foreign, not mock-strange states like California. New immigrants are introducing brown into a color map that has long been dominated by black and white. There is a sense that a world is ending, maybe not this year but inevitably.
The election, and Obama's candidacy, have focused these anxieties like a lens. I found whites frustrated and indecisive about the campaign, families at odds, generations divided. Many who thought themselves beyond prejudice were surprised by their suspicions of the young black man from up north. Meanwhile, many slave-descended blacks, hugely supportive of the half-Kenyan, half-Kansan, Hawaii-reared Obama, seemed afraid to hope too much, inoculating themselves with pessimism about the chances that any man of color could win the presidency, even this man, even today, or that, if he does, he will survive. As I say, emotions are raw.
People remember what they want to the way they want to, and call it history. That much is true almost any place in the world. But in the South, if people aren't careful, history can start to run their lives, even put them at risk. My father's brother, Tom, was a case in point: in the basement of his split-level home in suburban Atlanta he stored tons of artillery projectiles he'd dug up on Civil War battlefields. Many of them were still live ammunition. "I do worry," he told me in the 1970s. "If this house ever caught on fire, it could do a lot of damage around the neighborhood. You'd hear the last shots fired in the Civil War." (After Tom's death from natural causes in 1987, the core of the collection, duly defused, went to the Atlanta History Center.)
I set off on this trip wondering if Obama's candidacy was helping to pull people in the South together, freeing them of their histories, or pushing them apart. The "postracial" Obama obviously hopes to alter the traditional narrative of race in this campaign and may in fact be doing so, in certain counties of certain states. But in the South, broadly speaking, the past is still too powerful a frame for him to escape fully. This isn't only about black and white, just as the Civil War was about more than slavery. Back then powerful political players in the South saw Obama's fellow Illinoisan Abraham Lincoln as a threat, and a reason for rebellion. All Lincoln's unifying message brought together was the white poor and the white rich, in opposition to him and the blacks whose freedom he sought.....
NImeiba hizi comment kwenye hiyo article....nimecheka sana!!!
Posted By: olderwiser @ 08/02/2008 9:24:05 PM
Comment: A troubled region. Secession didn't work. Slavery didn't work. The South lost the war. The victors burnt everything in sight. Mexico is invading from the south. Northerners are invading from the north. The descendants of the former slaves are about to make a president out of a black yankee Harvard Lawyer. Summer is hot as hell and the price of air conditioning keeps going up. Maybe it'll cool off a little in September and football season will brighten things up before the Old South goes up in smoke in November. A troubled region.
Comment: Took my two small doggies out for a walk tonight in Houston and nearly keeled over from the hot air outside - it is like an oven, with the breeze blowing at you like a furnace from Hell. It is easily over 100 tonight when you add temp + humidity.
Obama was just here this week and a news report said he kept stopping to mop his brow at the homes he visited. And it's only August 2. We have at least three more months of humid heat blasting at us, but by October it is interspersed with a few days that are in the 80s. In November, we're still running our a/c usually.
Yes, a very hot, troubled region - and many down here are going to be hot and bothered even after it cools down in January!
Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 08/02/2008 22:17:27
Comment: First, your rambling and nearly incoherent autobiography, and now a weather report? WTF are you babbling about tonight? I think the heat has cooked your pea brain.
No doubt all that heat is a result of global warming brought on by redneck crackers driving their SUV's and 4 wheel drive pick up trucks to NASCAR races. I'm surprised you didn't work that in somehow to your leftist screed.
Any White person that will vote for Obama in November needs his or her head examined. Obama hates White people. I mean why else would he cozy up to Jeremiah Wright for all those years and even inspire his book? Obama's ideas and policies involve income redistribution from White people. Stupid, gullible Whites that will vote for Obama in November just do not realize what they are in for. I don't think even Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton hate Whitey more than Obama does. Why? Because Obama grew up around White people and being different has developed a huge chip on Obama's shoulder. I hope American Whites realize that before it's too late.
Ooouch! you seem to be angry, what's the problem Mr. Piyush? I think the reverse is true though that, the stupid and gullible white pple are those who will vote for Bush's third term.
Punguza hasira au ndio you're losing it!?? you need a moment to cool down, or I will hook you up with some A class shrink for a mind calming "couch time."
eazy.
Americans will probably be worse off under Obama nation than they are currently under Bush. As bad as Bush has been, Obama surely will be worse. Obama simply does not have the IQ or intellect to improve anything. You can hear it in his speeches and see it in the ideas and policies he is dreaming up. Perhaps you should tell us why you are supporting Obama? Any benefits he can bring you from his income redistribution from Whites will only be temporary.
Ebanae tuseme experience ya kila kitu kuanzia the real southern hospitality mpaka manyanyaso ya rangi ya ngozi...
Huwezi kuamini kuna siku nilikuwa mitaa ya Hoschton/Braselton kuna typical redneck mmoja nilikutana naye nilikuwa nacheka sana ila alinieleza live kuwa He can't stand African American with their N***a attitude...
Americans will probably be worse off under Obama nation than they are currently under Bush. As bad as Bush has been, Obama surely will be worse. Obama simply does not have the IQ or intellect to improve anything. You can hear it in his speeches and see it in the ideas and policies he is dreaming up. Perhaps you should tell us why you are supporting Obama? Any benefits he can bring you from his income redistribution from Whites will only be temporary.
Truth: first you tell us why you spew out things that are factually weak to put it mildly. When it comes to IQ, Barack Obama has proved that his brain muscles is active and strong, unlike Anko Makopo whose only claim to presidency is WAR HERO! He crashed his own plane then was held prisoner, pole but that doesn't mean his IQ is high, in fact he was below average student in the Academy - mwulize Wes Clark aliyesoma academy moja awape vipande vyenu. Barack Obama is a law professor and a good one! So let us not start comparing IQ because your candidate will remain below!
You should tell us why you support McCain who admittedly is thin on paper, and doesn't have any exhaustive paperwork on his plans unlike Obama. What is the position of McCain on issues - flipflop!!
Americans will probably be worse off under Obama nation than they are currently under Bush. As bad as Bush has been, Obama surely will be worse. Obama simply does not have the IQ or intellect to improve anything. You can hear it in his speeches and see it in the ideas and policies he is dreaming up. Perhaps you should tell us why you are supporting Obama? Any benefits he can bring you from his income redistribution from Whites will only be temporary.
Truth: first you tell us why you spew out things that are factually weak to put it mildly. When it comes to IQ, Barack Obama has proved that his brain muscles is active and strong, unlike Anko Makopo whose only claim to presidency is WAR HERO! He crashed his own plane then was held prisoner, pole but that doesn't mean his IQ is high, in fact he was below average student in the Academy - mwulize Wes Clark aliyesoma academy moja awape vipande vyenu. Barack Obama is a law professor and a good one! So let us not start comparing IQ because your candidate will remain below!
You should tell us why you support McCain who admittedly is thin on paper, and doesn't have any exhaustive paperwork on his plans unlike Obama. What is the position of McCain on issues - flipflop!!
Truth: first you tell us why you spew out things that are factually weak to put it mildly. When it comes to IQ, Barack Obama has proved that his brain muscles is active and strong, unlike Anko Makopo whose only claim to presidency is WAR HERO! He crashed his own plane then was held prisoner, pole but that doesn't mean his IQ is high, in fact he was below average student in the Academy - mwulize Wes Clark aliyesoma academy moja awape vipande vyenu. Barack Obama is a law professor and a good one! So let us not start comparing IQ because your candidate will remain below!
You should tell us why you support McCain who admittedly is thin on paper, and doesn't have any exhaustive paperwork on his plans unlike Obama. What is the position of McCain on issues - flipflop!!
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unarukaruka tu kama maasai wakipandisha, mara 'probably' Obama this hata sekunde hajaisha 'surely' Obama that!! Oooh 'simply' blah blah blah bila hata aibu..yaani hujui unaandika nini!! ushakuwa chizi na historia ua haina uungwana kwa watu kama wewe (ushahidi ni George Wallace, Jim Crow era Alabama Gov)
Argument yako ya IQ tumeizoea na haina nguvu ni upuuzi mtupu!! hivi kuna mtu pumbaf kabisa kama yule anayeabudu ng'ombe?? kama wewe na maponjoro wenzako ni werevu inakuwaje bado mnasujudia mijing'ombe? Mwenzako Piyush kaingia kwenye mainstream na jina siku hizi ni Bobby..bado wewe.
Hivi siku zote hizi hujui kwanini naunga mkono Obama? sasa sijui hata unafanya nini ktk thread hii! rudi nyuma huko jiridhishe na utajua kwanini naunga mkono Obama. Naomba unionyeshe wapi Obama kasema atachukua 'vijisenti' vya weupe na kuwapa weusi? hamna kitu kama redistribution! unajua hilo, hii ni capitalist economy huo ujinga hakuna sasa sijui unatoa wapi huo ujinga. Kama Obama anataka huo upuuzi kwanini asiunge mkono reparations!?? Acha propaganda zako za kipuuzi.... kuanzia sasa, kibabu chenu na nyie surrogates wake hapa mkipiga sie tunarudisha mara saba wa sabiini.
Check what I found when I "Googled" Obama grades.
"Obama was a mediocre student in prep school and college. See "OBAMA From Promise to Power" Chapter 4, David Mendell. This book is full of facts about Obama's history and it won an NAACP Image Award. It appears that Obama got into Harvard Law because of the community organizing work he did in Chicago and the fact that his father went to Harvard grad school. I don't know if Obama Sr. graduated. Obama also made important contacts in Chicago before he was admitted to Harvard. He had graduated from Columbia in 1983 and was not accepted at Harvard until 1987"
Source:
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=818249&mc=22&forum_id=2
If the above is true then Affirmative Action is what got him where he is not his brain muscles as you put it. You can also tell Obama is a "maroon" everytime he gives a speech without a telepromter. He stummers, studders worse than Bush. The guy is an empty suit.
Check what I found when I "Googled" Obama grades.
"Obama was a mediocre student in prep school and college. See "OBAMA From Promise to Power" Chapter 4, David Mendell. This book is full of facts about Obama's history and it won an NAACP Image Award. It appears that Obama got into Harvard Law because of the community organizing work he did in Chicago and the fact that his father went to Harvard grad school. I don't know if Obama Sr. graduated. Obama also made important contacts in Chicago before he was admitted to Harvard. He had graduated from Columbia in 1983 and was not accepted at Harvard until 1987"
Source:
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=818249&mc=22&forum_id=2
If the above is true then Affirmative Action is what got him where he is not his brain muscles as you put it. You can also tell Obama is a "maroon" everytime he gives a speech without a telepromter. He stummers, studders worse than Bush. The guy is an empty suit.
Who told you that I support McCain? My support was for Ron Paul. I am not too enthusiastic about McCain but between him and Obama, McCain is the lesser of two evils no questions about it. Obama wants income distribution from Whites and other crazy Marxist ideas.
Barack Obama's Estimated IQ Score Range is 130 to 148 and quite possibly higher.
Nowhere on the Internet can anyone locate Obama's IQ score. His college transcript from Harvard is not available and I cannot locate his GPA, his SAT score nor his LSAT score or any other tangebile proof of his IQ score.
However, after doing a lot of research, these are the facts concerning Obama's LSAT score while attending Law School at Harvard University. We do not know his actual LSAT score; however, after much research, we found that the average LSAT score for all Harvard students is 171.
The percentile rank for an LSAT score of 171 at Harvard is 98.8 %.
MENSA will accept LSAT scores as a means of qualifying for MENSA membership. (MENSA also accepts up to 200 various IQ tests and other tests of cognitive function as well.) The LSAT score required for MENSA membership is equal to a percentile of 95% or higher. Thus, basing Obama's estimated LSAT score of 171 ranks him in the top 98.8% (percent/percentile) range which is clearly above the lowest acceptable LSAT percentage rank of 95%, which clearly affirms that Obama has a qualifying intelligence quotient that would allow him acceptance into MENSA.
Since MENSA accepts various IQ Tests as well as other cognitive tests to qualify for MENSA membership it is safe to estimate that Obama's IQ Score could range anywhere from a low IQ score of 130 based on the Stanford Binet IQ Test, Revision 5, to a high IQ score of 148 based on the Cattell IQ Test. Note both of these tests are acceptable tests that MENSA will accept for membership.
To validate this source, visit MENSA here at Qualifying Test Scores that MENSA accepts.
Another interesting fact about Obama is that he graduated from Harvard Law School with the honor of Magna Cum Laude which according to the Wikipedia definition,
"Magna Cum Laude is graduating with great praise; an honor added to a diploma or degree for work considered greatly above average."
Even though we cannot pin point Obama's IQ Score, it is safe to assume that he has a high enough IQ score to be accepted into MENSA. Of course that is if he wanted to join MENSA.
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