UN has rejected Doctor's (MAT) Request

[Kachanchabuseta]

WanaJF nimepata habari muda si murefu kutoka chanzo changu cha kuaminika
kuwa UN Dar es salaama wamareject MAT's request

Chanzo kinasema UN hawawezi kuingilia mamlaka ya nchi kama nchi yenyewe inaweza kuyamaliza
maana hawawezi kuingilia uhuru wa sheria ndo maana baada ya MAT kuandika barua UN the next
day Mwenyekiti wa MAT alikuwa arrested na kupelekwa mahakamani

Kifungu kinacho wabana madoctor hiki hapa chini maana wamegoma then wanataka UN help

The Protection of Human Rights and the Principle of​

Non-intervention in Internal Affairs of States

(b) Article 2.7 of the UN Charter​

Article 2.7 of the Charter of the United Nations provides that – "Nothing contained in thepresent Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which areessentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members tosubmit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall notprejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII." Practice underArticle 2.7 has developed over time, and its practical importance is by now significantlyreduced.

Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, Article 41

It seems to be still well-established the diplomats should not interfere in the internalaffairs of the State to which they are accredited. But even here, as the leading work onthe subject points out, there is a "tension between the duty of a diplomat under Article 41of the Vienna Convention, not to interfere in the internal affairs of the receiving State andthe opinion of liberal States that human rights are a matter of legitimate international​

concern whose active promotion is a major part of their foreign policy

Among other activities which, depending on the circumstances, contravene the principleof non-intervention are:
(a) Interference in political activities (such as through financial or other support forparticular political parties or candidates, or even perhaps comment on upcomingelections or on the candidates;
(c) Seeking to overthrow the government - so-called ‘regime change', especially in thecase of ‘rogue States' It has occasionally been suggested thatintervention in order to restore (or establish) democracy is permitted under internationallaw​

 

[commited]

Mmmh kazi kweli kweli.... Ngoja wajuzi wa sheria waje watusaidie taarifa zaidi

 

[Bornvilla]

Kiburi si maungwana!

 

[Neiwa]

Tanzania hatunaga pre-emptive measures, hata kama UN wangekubali hao ma daktari wanadhani kweli kuwa kuna Doctor mwengine kapangwa kuvamiwa zaidi ya Ulimboka? Au kwamba Ulimboka yupo katika hali ya hatari (zaidi ya afya yake)? Ukisoma barua yao ya kuwakilisha haina ushawishi stahili, zaidi inakuwa kama imetoa briefing ya tukio zima lililomtokea Dr. Ulimboka as opposed to concrete facts and reasons as to why they should be provided hio protection. Uli tayari yupo under proper suverillience and even a kid knows hao walo mdhuru would not dare touch him sasa hivi or kitanuka. They may be intelligently crude but not stupid.. Nayo hio ni applicable tukichukua na kui qualify kuwa Serkali ndio imehusika..

 

[markj]

madoctor imekula kwao! serikali inamkono mrefu jamani! na najua tunalijua ilo<sema tunabishana tu humu ndani kwa hulka zetu za kisiasa! ila ngoja tuone

 

[Hute]

MADOCTOR wa tz wapasua kichwa badala ya mguu ni wapuuzi hawana maana, vishoka wakubwa afu wanaringa, wangekuwa wanaelewa sasa wangefanya nini si wangetusumbua sana, hapo tu mambumbumbu bado wanatuumiza vichwa,....kama wao ni madoctor kweli mbona ulimboka wanampelekwa kwa madoctor wenzao waliosoma shule ikasomaka huko india na souz africa? wao wameshindwa? vishoka hawana maana, yaani nikiwaona nao ati wanaringia profession yao huwa nacheka sana walevi hawa. kwanza wamezidi kutuibia madawa yetu kupeleka kwenye pharmacy zao.

 

[Tayana-wog]

ongeeni sana,bt, u dont knw wht is behind the scene!more over,wht is going on! Twende kazi.....itafahamika 2

 

[FJM]

This was expected. Lakini serikali iwe makini sana sana maana kilichofanyika ni sawa na 'booking'. UN kusema hawawezi kutoa ulinzi does not mean kwamba all is well. Na mpaka watoe uamuzi ina maana wame-discuss hali ya Tanzania which means tayari wameshajua mambo si shwari. Kwa upande mwingine Tanzania inaanza kupoteza moral authority kuongelea mambo ya amani mbele ya internation community. It is just sad!

 

[BHULULU]

MADOCTOR wa tz wapasua kichwa badala ya mguu ni wapuuzi hawana maana, vishoka wakubwa afu wanaringa, wangekuwa wanaelewa sasa wangefanya nini si wangetusumbua sana, hapo tu mambumbumbu bado wanatuumiza vichwa,....kama wao ni madoctor kweli mbona ulimboka wanampelekwa kwa madoctor wenzao waliosoma shule ikasomaka huko india na souz africa? wao wameshindwa? vishoka hawana maana, yaani nikiwaona nao ati wanaringia profession yao huwa nacheka sana walevi hawa. kwanza wamezidi kutuibia madawa yetu kupeleka kwenye pharmacy zao.

Aisee umejitahidi!

 

[masopakyindi]

Madaktari vijana msiwe na kiburi waombeni radhi watanzania ili mrudi kazini.
Katika suala hili you lose, both public and national sympathy.
Hamuhitajiki sana kama mnavyofikiri na wanaowaunga mkono ni olitical opputunists.
At any rate damage mliyofanya mtalipa tu, kwa vyovyote vile, lakini kwa manufaa yenu ombeni radhi kwa Rais wa Jamhuri.

 

[MAMMAMIA]

Nilitarajia kusikia hilo kutoka kwa Umoja wa Mataifa na nilishangaa sana MAT kutuma barua UN kwa kesi ya "mtu mmoja." Angalieni tangu mzozo wa Siria umeanza ni watu elfu ngapi wameahuliwa na UN imefanya nini. Mnaweza kujiuliza kwa nini "UN" iliingilia kati mizozo ya Kuwait, Irak na Libya na kwa nini haiingilii mzozo wa Siria.

 

[Bufa]

Safi sana, kweli JF ni darasa tosha. Pongezi kwa alieleta hii thread.

 

[mambomengi]

Nilitarajia kusikia hilo kutoka kwa Umoja wa Mataifa na nilishangaa sana MAT kutuma barua UN kwa kesi ya "mtu mmoja." Angalieni tangu mzozo wa Siria umeanza ni watu elfu ngapi wameahuliwa na UN imefanya nini. Mnaweza kujiuliza kwa nini "UN" iliingilia kati mizozo ya Kuwait, Irak na Libya na kwa nini haiingilii mzozo wa Siria.

Tukianza kuzalisha mafuta watakuja wenyewe.

 

[MANGUNGO]

Kapumue huko.

 

[hippocratessocrates]

MADOCTOR wa tz wapasua kichwa badala ya mguu ni wapuuzi hawana maana, vishoka wakubwa afu wanaringa, wangekuwa wanaelewa sasa wangefanya nini si wangetusumbua sana, hapo tu mambumbumbu bado wanatuumiza vichwa,....kama wao ni madoctor kweli mbona ulimboka wanampelekwa kwa madoctor wenzao waliosoma shule ikasomaka huko india na souz africa? wao wameshindwa? vishoka hawana maana, yaani nikiwaona nao ati wanaringia profession yao huwa nacheka sana walevi hawa. kwanza wamezidi kutuibia madawa yetu kupeleka kwenye pharmacy zao.

hapo ndipo unapoonyesha UPIMBI WAKO na UJUHA WAKO ULIOKUBUHU..angalia ranking ya vyuo vya kitabibu vya tanzania Katika DUNIA ndio ujue hongo kunawasomi msiowatumia...pili kupelekwa nje kwa Dkt Ulimboka ni kutokana na kukosekana kwa vifaa(moja ya madai)..tatu Udaktari na Ufamasia si kitu kimoja ingawa zinauhusiano wa karibu..nne makosa ya operation zilizotokea muh2 hayakufanywa na madaktari bali Idara ya uchapaji( kuchapisha majina mawili yote yenye kufanana mfano Hamis Juma badala ya majina matatu) na si kazi ya daktari kuhakikisha ni kazi ya muuguzi..kalale juha, jipange upya ndio uje hapa..

 

[Mtu Mzima]

WanaJF nimepata habari muda si murefu kutoka chanzo changu cha kuaminika
kuwa UN Dar es salaama wamareject MAT's request

Chanzo kinasema UN hawawezi kuingilia mamlaka ya nchi kama nchi yenyewe inaweza kuyamaliza
maana hawawezi kuingilia uhuru wa sheria ndo maana baada ya MAT kuandika barua UN the next
day Mwenyekiti wa MAT alikuwa arrested na kupelekwa mahakamani...

Barua iliyoenda UN uliiona hakukuwa na blah blah.
Ungekuwa na hoja iwapo ungeleta ushahidi badala ya maoni yako binafsi.

''Mtashindanaaa lakini hamtashinda''!!!

 

[thatha]

kwa kuwa suala hili lipo mahakamani,haki itatendeka

 

[bainamugisha]

MADOCTOR wa tz wapasua kichwa badala ya mguu ni wapuuzi hawana maana, vishoka wakubwa afu wanaringa, wangekuwa wanaelewa sasa wangefanya nini si wangetusumbua sana, hapo tu mambumbumbu bado wanatuumiza vichwa,....kama wao ni madoctor kweli mbona ulimboka wanampelekwa kwa madoctor wenzao waliosoma shule ikasomaka huko india na souz africa? wao wameshindwa? vishoka hawana maana, yaani nikiwaona nao ati wanaringia profession yao huwa nacheka sana walevi hawa. kwanza wamezidi kutuibia madawa yetu kupeleka kwenye pharmacy zao.

We ni mjinga na huna akil sikushangai, unafikiri wewe una akil gani kumzidi daktari yoyote,,Ndo walewale uwezo mdogo kuongoza mkubwa??? Ujawaona waliokukwapulia mabilioni unadai dawa kweli wewe kichwa cha kuku akibebi mzigooo....bebaa boksi za dawa utinze kwako

 

[Africa_Spring]

WanaJF nimepata habari muda si murefu kutoka chanzo changu cha kuaminika
kuwa UN Dar es salaama wamareject MAT's request

Chanzo kinasema UN hawawezi kuingilia mamlaka ya nchi kama nchi yenyewe inaweza kuyamaliza
maana hawawezi kuingilia uhuru wa sheria ndo maana baada ya MAT kuandika barua UN the next
day Mwenyekiti wa MAT alikuwa arrested na kupelekwa mahakamani....

Dar es Salaam. The United Nations office in Dar es Salaam yesterday acknowledged receipt of a letter from the Medical Association of Tanzania (MAT) seeking protection of Dr Stephen Ulimboka who is receiving treatment in South Africa.

The UN communications analyst, Ms Hoyce Temu, said yesterday that the resident coordinator of the global body, Dr Alberic Kacou, received the letter on Monday evening and immediately started consulting other partners on how to address issues raised by the document.

"The resident coordinator will be meeting with representatives of UN agencies for consultations and drawing more expertise on how to address issues raised in the letter," Ms Temu said.
She said there were also many actors mentioned in the letter, including the doctors themselves through MAT, the government, and civil society organisations.

As a result, she noted, attending to the doctors' requests would need more time so as to get the issues right from all sides prior to intervention and mediation.

"UN is a transparent organ and believes in peace and stability of its member states, including Tanzania," she noted.
On Monday, MAT appealed to the United Nations and the international community to ensure the security of Dr Ulimboka in South Africa, where he is receiving treatment.

 

[Precise Pangolin]

hapo ndipo unapoonyesha UPIMBI WAKO na UJUHA WAKO ULIOKUBUHU..angalia ranking ya vyuo vya kitabibu vya tanzania Katika DUNIA ndio ujue hongo kunawasomi msiowatumia...pili kupelekwa nje kwa Dkt Ulimboka ni kutokana na kukosekana kwa vifaa(moja ya madai)..tatu Udaktari na Ufamasia si kitu kimoja ingawa zinauhusiano wa karibu..nne makosa ya operation zilizotokea muh2 hayakufanywa na madaktari bali Idara ya uchapaji( kuchapisha majina mawili yote yenye kufanana mfano Hamis Juma badala ya majina matatu) na si kazi ya daktari kuhakikisha ni kazi ya muuguzi..kalale juha, jipange upya ndio uje hapa..

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