Uko wapi baba?


The father is to blame because there has been no contact for 25 years.
 
To me courage is facing the cold fact that the biological father doesn't/didn't care enough to initiate contact. And charting a way without him.

Courage is to face and give him the opportunity to say it to your face. That way you will have no doubts whatsoever that he really doesn't want anything to do with you.

Courage is sacrificing personal curiosity for a deeper truth. Respecting facts.

You can't respect facts without knowing them.

The fact here is that the so called father neither showed interested nor initiated contact, even by proxy.

And the fact 'why' he did what he did is not known yet. And she probably wants to know why.
 

Had he wanted to say it to her face, he would have done that. Courage is respecting that even when itching with curiosity.

The fact that the father did not initiate a relationship is known. That is more than enough on the facts corner.

Why is it necessary to know why he did what he did?
 
Sijawahi kuelewa kwa nini mtu amtafute baba yake, baba ambaye hajamtafuta.

Baba si kuzaa tu bali anawajali na kuwakumbuka watoto. Sometimes unaweza kuwa much dissappointed na mtu unaemtafuta.
 
Baba si kuzaa tu bali anawajali na kuwakumbuka watoto. Sometimes unaweza kuwa much dissappointed na mtu unaemtafuta.

Waswahili wanasema "undugu kufaana, si kufanana"

Katika maisha yake kutakuwa na watu wamekuwa baba kuliko huyo biological father.
 
Why is it necessary to know why?

It is necessary to know 'why' because he did not fulfill his fatherly responsibilities.

He was partly responsible for bringing her into this world and instead of stepping up and taking care of her like he should have, he stepped down.

Now 'why' did he do that? Only he can answer that question.
 

That necessity would have been there in a prosecutorial quest for justice in some court like inquest.

We don't have that situation here. The daughter is looking to fill a void (from a vacuous dad) not hold the father responsibile.

The daughter can continue her life without knowing her father. She certainly has done so for the last 25 years. If it wasn't necessary all along why is it now?

You are creating unnecessary necessities here.
 

Now it's like you are speaking for her!

She is looking for her father whom she doesn't know.

That's what she wants to do.

If that's what she wants to do then it's fine with me.
 

... Kwa hali yoyote JF itamsaidia kwa kuanzia pia namshauri hayo majina ya baba yake yanaonyesha ni mtu wa Bukoba... nshomire fulani.. aendelee kuulizia pia katika vyombo vingine vya habari.... atafanikiwa
 
Now it's like you are speaking for her!

She is looking for her father whom she doesn't know.

That's what she wants to do.

If that's what she wants to do then it's fine with me.

Thats fine with me too.

It doesn't mean that concerns about wrong priorities should not be aired.

Especially since tumeombwa msaada.

I don't just go with the flow. Mtu akiomba msaada anapewa, critically, not just the acceptable groupthink psychobabble.
 
... Kwa hali yoyote JF itamsaidia kwa kuanzia pia namshauri hayo majina ya baba yake yanaonyesha ni mtu wa Bukoba... nshomire fulani.. aendelee kuulizia pia katika vyombo vingine vya habari.... atafanikiwa

Pengine huyo mtu si baba, au hataki ajulikane.

Hamuoni kwamba mnamkosea heshima kwa kumuanika hivi?

Vipi kama King'asti kinakusakizia tu kukuchafulia jina kwa sababu umekitosa?
 
Mshukuru sana Mungu kwa maisha ya mama yako, acha kumtafuta mtu asiyekuhitaji. Nakushauri wewe move on with your life kwani hakuna atakacho kusaidia leo hii wewe at your age. Shida ni kumwita baba, hilo si tatizo kwani yeyote mwenye mapenzi mema aweza kuwa baba yako. Usitafute balaa, huyo hata ukimpata hana msaada wowote kwako kwa sasa. Undugu hujengwa utotoni.
 

Huko sasa ni kurukia kuhitimisha!

Watu hamjui hali aliyonayo huyo atafutwaye. Ikiwa ni mgonjwa aliyepooza je?

Ingekuwa labda inajulikana wazi kuwa huko aliko ni anaponda raha tu hapo ningeelewa kwa nini mnasema hivyo.

Lakini hapa ni kwamba binti hajui huyo anayedhaniwa kuwa ni baba yupo wapi.

Mambo ya nini kitatokea pindi ampatapo hayajulikani. Kama inaweza kuwa balaa pia inaweza kuwa fanaka vilevile!

Na huwezi kujua lipi ni lipi hadi utakapompata.
 
Nyani Ngabu nimeshangazwa sana na majibu ya wadada wote wa humu JF na kaka yao Kiranga.

1. Why are they being so pessimistic?

2. Kwanini wote wanalalia upande wa mama? For one kama mama kweli anampenda binti yake angemkalisha chini na kumweleza yote. LABDA wakati umezaliwa baba yako alikataa kuwa wewe si mtoto wake hivyo akaamua kuondoka. Halafu binti aamue. Lakini eti kumwambia baba yako alikufa mv bukoba gives me doubt juu ya kuhusika kwa mama huyu kwenye mbinu chafu ya kumficha mwanaye.

3. Huyo baba anaweza kuwa na hamu sana ya kujua whereabouts za mwanae but think of it this way: baada ya miez sita akakoroFISHWA na mama mtoto ikambidi ampe nafasi/uhuru..wakati huo mtoto anaitwa bebii. Baada ya mwaka akabatizwa. Different name. Mama akaja kuhama and all that.
Do not discourage the lady...huenda na baba yake pia anamtafuta.


4. HOWEVER: I dont deny the fact kwamba baba mtu aliwatelekeza akawaacha. Hiyo bado haihalalishi yeye kutotafutwa. Mchana huu nimeongea na ndugu yangu niliyemtolea mfano hapo awali nikamuuliza kwanini uliamua kumtafuta baba yako hata baada ya mama yako kukwambia alikataa na kuondoka? Akasema sikumtafuta koz of msaada wowote ama nini...nilipomwona na kumfahamu nikapata 'ahaa' moment. Yani unaelewa why did what you did.

5. Tusiende mbali sana kwenye conclusion ya HATA UKIMPATA ATAKUKATAA tumshauri kwa wanaojua majina ya waliofariki kwenye meli ile yalipo. Then hizo conclusion zenu ziwe tu kama angalizo...kuwa mdogo/mwanetu unapoendelea kumtafuta baba yako beware do not always expect a positive answer from him.
Ila hii ya Kiranga sikubaliani nayo. Knowing both your parents plays a very big role in self realization.
 
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Kapooza miaka 25 yote? Kashindwa hata kutuma salamu?

Kumtafuta huyu baba ni kuongeza complexity tu.

Waswahili wanasema "mtaka nyingi nasaba, hupata mingi misiba".
 

I talked about optimism, realism, , pessimism above. Counter that.

There is a reason "self-realization" begins with "self" and not "father".

An individual doesn't need to know an absentee father to be self-realized. In fact there is a bigger case to be made here that you are encouraging an illusion.
 
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Jamani, anamtafuta baba yake, hayo mambo ya kumkatisha tamaa ni ujinga, kama baba yake amekosa, yeye atamsamehe na siyo nyie, kwanza hajui the other side of story from his father. Anasema hajawahi kumtia machoni!
 
There is a reason "self-realization" begins with "self" and not "father".

An individual doesn't need to know an absentee father to be self-realized. In fact there is a bigger case to be made here that you are encouraging an illusion.

One cannot be him/herself without a father.
 
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