Three Tanzanians found guilty of plot to kill ex-Rwanda army chief

[jMali]

Those are blatant allegations, do you have some source or evidence of such, all this time we have known or heard from the media how he fought off the interharamwe, how or why would you paint history differently.

There could only be either one of two issues here, either we have not been told the true story of Rwanda and there could be monolithic of events covered and concealed away from the world through concerted efforts of the western media and African governments, or may be you're just some interharamwe masquerading as a Tanzanian and trying to stoke up emotions against legitimate government of PK.

Whichever way, the truth will surface someday, but one thing is so clear, we were fed with wretched images of Tutsis and moderate Hutus being butchered. Whoever is behind it all, whether PK or otherwise, will somehow face justice whether here on earth or in the underworld.

Just like the Kenyan case, we have just a few guys being dragged to ICC, but every Kenyan deep down their bones knows the people who should have been taken to the Hague.

hahahaaha, i rest my case!

 

[JustDoItNow]

Yeyote anae support Rwanda mna wasi wasi na uraia wao, so in the same breath nyie nyote mnaom oppose kagame nasi tuna wasi wasi na uraia wenu. You must have a vested interest in seeing Kagame leave and the history tells us only one group of people fits the description. INTERAHAMWE. There you go. Jichagulie mwenyewe uko kundi gani halafu tuendelee na mjadala.

Mkuu, una inferiority complex sana. na hii zamani nilikuwa siijui. nilianza kufatilia story ya rwanda kwa juu juu pale mlipochinjana. na kwa undani zaidi pale jamaa aliposema atam hit mtoto wa mjini JK.
Nilichogundua ni kuwa kumbe kuna intruders, ambao ni watusi. hawa ni watu waliokuwa wanahama hama. wakimbizi kwa lugha nyepesi. Watusi walifika kwenye nchi ya wahutu wakamezwa wakapoteza lugha yao wakaongea lugha ya wahutu. Sasa kwa laana na dhambi ya ubaguzi waliokuja nayo wakaanza kuwabagua wahutu ambao ndio wenye eneo husika kwa shape. Matokeo yake ndo hayo mambo ya genocide. Ukija bongo utawaita watu wote interaamwe.....LOL
Alafu sisi tunaoingia humu JF na kuongea hivyo ni hata theluthi moja ya ambao ungewaita interaamo haifiki. wabongo wasio na access na JF wenye hisia kama zangu mkuu ni wengi sana...... Kuwa na amani kaka TZ hakuna kuchinjana kwa ajili ya ukabila. nunamakabila kama 100 hivi........LOL MUKAMASIMBA Koba

 

[JustDoItNow]

Those are blatant allegations, do you have some source or evidence of such, all this time we have known or heard from the media how he fought off the interharamwe, how or why would you paint history differently.

There could only be either one of two issues here, either we have not been told the true story of Rwanda and there could be monolithic of events covered and concealed away from the world through concerted efforts of the western media and African governments, or may be you're just some interharamwe masquerading as a Tanzanian and trying to stoke up emotions against legitimate government of PK.

Whichever way, the truth will surface someday, but one thing is so clear, we were fed with wretched images of Tutsis and moderate Hutus being butchered. Whoever is behind it all, whether PK or otherwise, will somehow face justice whether here on earth or in the underworld.

Just like the Kenyan case, we have just a few guys being dragged to ICC, but every Kenyan deep down their bones knows the people who should have been taken to the Hague.

Man, the guy PK started the genocide. He was the one who organized the shooting down of the plane which carried the two presidents - Rwanda and Burundi. He is the one who still practicing the genocide to date.
Me too, at first i was not aware of this. I only knew that PK is the one who stopped the rwandan genocide. but i always craw and craw within different sources. Then i found the answer. More worse he tempered with the strong government Tanzania. Only because he thought now he have all the power after(to him) managing to hide the true situation of rwanda and allude it.
Come along...... Watch it out.

 

[Koba]

Man, the guy PK started the genocide. He was the one who organized the shooting down of the plane which carried the two presidents - Rwanda and Burundi. He is the one who still practicing the genocide to date.
Me too, at first i was not aware of this. I only knew that PK is the one who stopped the rwandan genocide. but i always craw and craw within different sources. Then i found the answer. More worse he tempered with the strong government Tanzania. Only because he thought now he have all the power after(to him) managing to hide the true situation of rwanda and allude it.
Come along...... Watch it out.

Lol..next time tumia Swahili

 

[Jamaa_Mbishi]

Siku hizi kuwa na passport ya Tanzania ili mtu afanye uharifu siyo issue, kwani hata wasomali (hawajuwi Kiswahili na hawajawahi kuishi hapa) wana uraia wa Tanzania na usafiri na passport zetu kila waendapo duniani. Serikali inabidi kunyonga vigogo wa serikali (uhamiaji) wanaouza nchi yetu kwa tamaa za kijinga. Muhindi yuko India lakini ana passport ya Tanzania na anasafiri popote atakapo as raia wa Bongo, wahusika kimyaaaaaaa wanaona poa tu. Mwisho wa siku utasikia mtanzania kateka ndege na kujilipua angani, ukichunguza ni mwarabu au Muhindi, haibu inapata nchi yetu na sie tusio na hatia tukisafiri tunawekewa masharti na vipingamizi vigumu huku tukipakuliwa mpaka pumbuni na mikunduni, na kwa kutukomoa tu tunapigwa vidole makusudi na maofisa wa usalama/uhamiaji katika hizo nchi tuendazo kwa kisingizo cha kusachiwa.

 

[MUKAMASIMBA]

Mkuu, una inferiority complex sana. na hii zamani nilikuwa siijui. nilianza kufatilia story ya rwanda kwa juu juu pale mlipochinjana. na kwa undani zaidi pale jamaa aliposema atam hit mtoto wa mjini JK.
Nilichogundua ni kuwa kumbe kuna intruders, ambao ni watusi. hawa ni watu waliokuwa wanahama hama. wakimbizi kwa lugha nyepesi. Watusi walifika kwenye nchi ya wahutu wakamezwa wakapoteza lugha yao wakaongea lugha ya wahutu. Sasa kwa laana na dhambi ya ubaguzi waliokuja nayo wakaanza kuwabagua wahutu ambao ndio wenye eneo husika kwa shape. Matokeo yake ndo hayo mambo ya genocide. Ukija bongo utawaita watu wote interaamwe.....LOL
Alafu sisi tunaoingia humu JF na kuongea hivyo ni hata theluthi moja ya ambao ungewaita interaamo haifiki. wabongo wasio na access na JF wenye hisia kama zangu mkuu ni wengi sana...... Kuwa na amani kaka TZ hakuna kuchinjana kwa ajili ya ukabila. nunamakabila kama 100 hivi........LOL MUKAMASIMBA Koba

Hebu soma vizuri history ya rwanda halafu urudi humu jf.

 

[Ally Kombo]

JustDoItNow

Bongo nimepiga beer na jamaa na sijawahi kubaguliwa, tumezunguka club hadi club. Lakini hili la Wanyarwanda sielewi hapa JF mbona huwa mnawapumulia shingoni hivi. Kama ni kosa la Kagame mbona lisibaki kuwa ugomvi baina ya viongozi. Kweli hata mimi sikupendezwa na jinsi PK alivyomjibu JK, lakini raia wa Kirwanda ni innocent na hawahusikani.

Hapa tatizo ni PK na dharau zake ! JK kwa siasa za ndani unaweza kuona kama Rais ambaye anapewa 'challenges' na raia wake, lakini ni kipenzi mno kwa wananchi wake. Kwani ni miongoni mwa Viongozi wenye subira, sense of humour na mwepesi mno kusocialize
Kitendo cha PK kumuattack kwa dharau na jeuri, ni ngumu mno kwa watanzania kumeza. lawmaina78

 

[JustDoItNow]

Lol..next time tumia Swahili

LOL... mara nyingine use English

 

[murutongore]

Mkuu, una inferiority complex sana. na hii zamani nilikuwa siijui. nilianza kufatilia story ya rwanda kwa juu juu pale mlipochinjana. na kwa undani zaidi pale jamaa aliposema atam hit mtoto wa mjini JK.
Nilichogundua ni kuwa kumbe kuna intruders, ambao ni watusi. hawa ni watu waliokuwa wanahama hama. wakimbizi kwa lugha nyepesi. Watusi walifika kwenye nchi ya wahutu wakamezwa wakapoteza lugha yao wakaongea lugha ya wahutu. Sasa kwa laana na dhambi ya ubaguzi waliokuja nayo wakaanza kuwabagua wahutu ambao ndio wenye eneo husika kwa shape. Matokeo yake ndo hayo mambo ya genocide. Ukija bongo utawaita watu wote interaamwe.....LOL
Alafu sisi tunaoingia humu JF na kuongea hivyo ni hata theluthi moja ya ambao ungewaita interaamo haifiki. wabongo wasio na access na JF wenye hisia kama zangu mkuu ni wengi sana...... Kuwa na amani kaka TZ hakuna kuchinjana kwa ajili ya ukabila. nunamakabila kama 100 hivi........LOL MUKAMASIMBA Koba

Hahaahahaha....inferiority complex ni watu kama nyie ambao hamjiamini, wakenya wakipata ajira tanzania badala ya ku compete mnawafukuza eti hawako qualified. COMPETE usiwe muoga. PUT your CV mezani na yeye aweke ya kwake halafu tuone nani atashinda.

 

[murutongore]

LOL... mara nyingine use English

Kiingereza hujui....ongea kiswahili manake hata hatujui unataka kutuambia nini. You are punching above your weight boy.

 

[murutongore]

Man, the guy PK started the genocide. He was the one who organized the shooting down of the plane which carried the two presidents - Rwanda and Burundi. He is the one who still practicing the genocide to date.
Me too, at first i was not aware of this. I only knew that PK is the one who stopped the rwandan genocide. but i always craw and craw within different sources. Then i found the answer. More worse he tempered with the strong government Tanzania. Only because he thought now he have all the power after(to him) managing to hide the true situation of rwanda and allude it.
Come along...... Watch it out.

jMali, unampa like because you understand what he is trying to put accross au? Jaribu kututafsilia manake sisi hapa tuko gizani.

 

[jMali]

jMali, unampa like because you understand what he is trying to put accross au? Jaribu kututafsilia manake sisi hapa tuko gizani.

mimi namuelewa vizuri mtanzania mwenzangu, ila wewe ndio sijaelewa hapo kwenye red maana yake nini? cc: JustDoItNow

 

[murutongore]

mimi namuelewa vizuri mtanzania mwenzangu, ila wewe ndio sijaelewa hapo kwenye red maana yake nini? cc: JustDoItNow

Basi leo ndio umenidhihirishia wewe sio mtanzania.

 

[simplemind]

Majambazi wengi tu Tanzania. Piga jicho jengoni Dodoma watu wanafanya ujambazi utakao athiri kizazi hiki na vizazi vijavyo.

 

[jMali]

Basi leo ndio umenidhihirishia wewe sio mtanzania.

UTANZANIA ni URAIA, unaweza ukawa MTANZANIA halafu ukawa mhindi, mchaga, mkikuyu etc. Tribe ndio issue hapa. On a lighter note hebu cheki hizi keywords nilizoweka kwenye red toka kwenye post ya raia wa KENYA, can you guess his tribe? I certainly can, and it is not kikuyu, kamba, kalenjin, somali or jaluo.....its your tribe, but do i dispute his NATIONALITY PER HIS PASSPORT? absolutely not. Kwa hiyo na wewe usipoteze muda kujadili URAIA WANGU, jadili content of my posts.

Those are blatant allegations, do you have some source or evidence of such, all this time we have known or heard from the media how he fought off the interharamwe, how or why would you paint history differently.

There could only be either one of two issues here, either we have not been told the true story of Rwanda and there could be monolithic of events covered and concealed away from the world through concerted efforts of the western media and African governments, or may be you're just some interharamwe masquerading as a Tanzanian and trying to stoke up emotions against legitimate government of PK.

Whichever way, the truth will surface someday, but one thing is so clear, we were fed with wretched images of Tutsis and moderate Hutus being butchered. Whoever is behind it all, whether PK or otherwise, will somehow face justice whether here on earth or in the underworld.

Just like the Kenyan case, we have just a few guys being dragged to ICC, but every Kenyan deep down their bones knows the people who should have been taken to the Hague.

 

[murutongore]

UTANZANIA ni URAIA, unaweza ukawa MTANZANIA halafu ukawa mhindi, mchaga, mkikuyu etc. Tribe ndio issue hapa. On a lighter note hebu cheki hizi keywords nilizoweka kwenye red toka kwenye post ya raia wa KENYA, can you guess his tribe? I certainly can, and it is not kikuyu, kamba, kalenjin, somali or jaluo.....its your tribe, but do i dispute his NATIONALITY PER HIS PASSPORT? absolutely not. Kwa hiyo na wewe usipoteze muda kujadili URAIA WANGU, jadili content of my posts.

Exactly my point. CONTENTS OF ALL YOUR POSTS PROVES ONE THING AS lawmaina78 stated in his post above. "you are just some interahamwe masquerading as a Tanzania. You know jMali, between the two of us, you know and i know the truth about our backgrounds.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Kiingereza hujui....ongea kiswahili manake hata hatujui unataka kutuambia nini. You are punching above your weight boy.

Kiswahili hujui.....Ongea kiingereza.....LOL
Au kifaransa.......Ahahahahahhahaha! au lugha ya kufikia ki hutu.....Ehehehehhehehehe!
Du! kazi kweli kweli.

 

[JustDoItNow]

Basi leo ndio umenidhihirishia wewe sio mtanzania.

Dhambi ya ubaguziiiiiiiiii. Man, why are you so nervous about Nationality. The sin of tribalism will grind you forever.......
We have variety of people here in TZ with different races.
You have the government already and everything. Those interahame people are scattered somewhere around the bush. But you afraid of them. This shows that you did something bad to them.......
Narudia tena. Humu JF unawaona akina Jmal tu. Lakini Ni watanzania wengi sana ambao wanahisia kama hizo lakini hawaingii JF.......
Sasa sijui utasema wote hao siyo watanzania?.......LOL
Kweli mungu awasaidie sana ninyi watu wa rwanda. Naona bado kabisa hamjakaa vizuri.

 

[MK254]

UTANZANIA ni URAIA, unaweza ukawa MTANZANIA halafu ukawa mhindi, mchaga, mkikuyu etc. Tribe ndio issue hapa. On a lighter note hebu cheki hizi keywords nilizoweka kwenye red toka kwenye post ya raia wa KENYA, can you guess his tribe? I certainly can, and it is not kikuyu, kamba, kalenjin, somali or jaluo.....its your tribe, but do i dispute his NATIONALITY PER HIS PASSPORT? absolutely not. Kwa hiyo na wewe usipoteze muda kujadili URAIA WANGU, jadili content of my posts.

Mbona unasoma mambo selectively, naona unahangaika kuniita Mtutsi simply because niko open minded. Bwana wee, kuna jinsi historia ya Rwanda inafahamika dunia yote, kama una taarifa tofauti, mbona usiweke na pamoja na ushahidi. Vyombo vya habari dunia yote vilitangaza jinsi Watutsi karibu milioni na Wahutu kadhaa walivyouawa, movie zimetengenezwa vile vile, sasa utabaki kuwaita watu wote dunia yote kuwa Watutsi.
Mwenyewe umeandika kuwa ni Kagame aliua na si vile tumeambiwa muda wote na vyombo vya habari, sasa badala ya kuleta ushahidi unabaki kurusha accusations na kusoma taarifa selectively. Aidha unacheza tu siasa.

 

[jMali]

Exactly my point. CONTENTS OF ALL YOUR POSTS PROVES ONE THING AS lawmaina78 stated in his post above. "you are just some interahamwe masquerading as a Tanzania. You know jMali, between the two of us, you know and i know the truth about our backgrounds.

sasa mbona unajichanganya. interahamwe si utaifa, unaweza ukawa interahamwe na ukawa MTANZANIA. kama ambavyo wewe na lawmaina78 ni raia wa mataifa tofauti lakini wote watutsi. Unless of course kama una-allege kuwa nilikimbia 1994, which is impossible kwa kuwa i was very young then, vile vile ingekuwa ujinga kwangu kusifia operesheni kimbunga kwenye https://www.jamiiforums.com/international-forum/580728-uraia-wa-watutsi.html wakati mimi mwenyewe mhamiaji haramu!
jambo la pili ni ukweli kuwa my views ndio views za watanzania wote humu JF, ndio maana mmevumbua tactic ya kuanzisha ID kumi kumi kama MAHORO na wengineo kwa ajili ya kuonyesha kuwa labda kuna watu wengine wanamtetea kagame like you. If my views zinanifanya mimi kuwa interahamwe, basi nadhani watanzania wote ni interahamwe. No wonder hata rais wetu naye anaitwa interahamwe na media za kwenu.