Tanzania has most trade barriers in EAC- report!!!

[livefire]

Kama mna nguvu acheni kulalama basi. Na mbona masoko ya Ethiopia mnayatafuta bila kuhamasisha muungano wa IGAD? Sie hatuitaki EAC na sie tuna mbinu zetu za kufanya biashara sasa kama mnajiona nyie ndio mna nguvu mbona mnakesha kuijadili Tz? Umeona media za Tz zinapayuka kuhusu kenya?

kwanza kabisa, IGAD is not a trading block. Its main purpose was avert drought and famine disasters. the mandate was further expanded to meet peace and security concerns and also faciltate political dialogue in hostile zones such as the Sudans. It was never a trading block. Its wrong to point out on Kenyan Media stations yet the entire EAC zone feels Tanzania isnt upto the task.journalists write what sells and they care less about ethics though theres nothing ethical in this issue but reality. Its better if Tanzania as an authority pulls out from certain clauses it feel oppressed than complain every now and then. We got issues this side of our border but they aint as rampant.

 

[Geza Ulole]

What a gem this one is. The difference is the existence of the EAC treaty. Last time I checked Somalia was not part of EAC and Burundi was. IGAD does not guarantee free movement of people! Do you guys read what you write?:biggrin:

Why not?

The objectives of IGAD are to:

• Promote joint development strategies and gradually harmonize macro-economic policies and programmes in the social, technological and scientific fields;
• Harmonize policies with regard to trade, customs, transport, communications, agriculture, and natural resources, and promote free movement of goods, services, and people within the region.
• Create an enabling environment for foreign, cross-border and domestic trade and investment;
• Achieve regional food security and encourage and assist efforts of Member States to collectively combat drought and other natural and man-made disatsters and their natural consequences;
• Initiate and promote programmes and projects to achieve regional food security and sustainable development of natural resources and environment protection, and encourage and assist efforts of Member States to collectively combat drought and other natural and man-made disasters and their consequences;
• Develop and improve a coordinated and complementary infrastructure, in the areas of transport, telecommunications and energy in the region;
• Promote peace and stability in the region and create mechanisms within the region for the prevention, management and resolution of inter-State and intra-State conflicts through dialogue;
• Mobilize resources for the implementation of emergency, short-term, medium-term and long-term programmes within the framework of regional cooperation;
• Promote and realize the objectives of the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA) and the African Economic Community;
• Facilitate, promote and strengthen cooperation in research development and application in science and technology

Intergovernmental Authority for Development (IGAD)

You see ur hypocrisy as a Kenyan? u should be ashamed, a cursed seed for sure!

 

[Geza Ulole]

Or u want me to show u COMESA's evidence?

 

[livefire]

Why not?

The objectives of IGAD are to:

• Promote joint development strategies and gradually harmonize macro-economic policies and programmes in the social, technological and scientific fields;
• Harmonize policies with regard to trade, customs, transport, communications, agriculture, and natural resources, and promote free movement of goods, services, and people within the region.
• Create an enabling environment for foreign, cross-border and domestic trade and investment;
• Achieve regional food security and encourage and assist efforts of Member States to collectively combat drought and other natural and man-made disatsters and their natural consequences;
• Initiate and promote programmes and projects to achieve regional food security and sustainable development of natural resources and environment protection, and encourage and assist efforts of Member States to collectively combat drought and other natural and man-made disasters and their consequences;
• Develop and improve a coordinated and complementary infrastructure, in the areas of transport, telecommunications and energy in the region;
• Promote peace and stability in the region and create mechanisms within the region for the prevention, management and resolution of inter-State and intra-State conflicts through dialogue;
• Mobilize resources for the implementation of emergency, short-term, medium-term and long-term programmes within the framework of regional cooperation;
• Promote and realize the objectives of the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA) and the African Economic Community;
• Facilitate, promote and strengthen cooperation in research development and application in science and technology

Intergovernmental Authority for Development (IGAD)

You see ur hypocrisy as a Kenyan? u should be ashamed, a cursed seed for sure!

what hypocrisy are you talking about? IGAD is more of a military oufit than a trading block. Any ceasefire is addressed through IGAD, read Eritrea and Sudan. No treaties have been signed to facilitate trade, its more of a vision as of now. Please revisit your current affairs lecture and understand the core function of some of this bodies.

 

[livefire]

Geza, i just wonder if you are smart at being reckless or are never aware of what is happening. KDF is currently in theater with Somalia, how do you expect we scrap crucial border operations such as check points? Trade between Kenya and Ethiopia at the moment is neglible via road so what you are implying is utter nonsense. I stick to saying IGAD at the moment is a military outfit with trade treaties remaining to be fulfilled in the near future awaiting devts such as LAPPSET.

 

[Geza Ulole]

what hypocrisy are you talking about? IGAD is more of a military oufit than a trading block. Any ceasefire is addressed through IGAD, read Eritrea and Sudan. No treaties have been signed to facilitate trade, its more of a vision as of now. Please revisit your current affairs lecture and understand the core function of some of this bodies.

r u reading on the same script with us? can u pls go to the IGAD website i begin to lambast u!? arghh!!! And how about COMESA? what defense do u give?

 

[livefire]

r u reading on the same script with us? can u pls go to the IGAD website i begin to lambast u!? arghh!!! And how about COMESA? what defense do u give?

understand what a mission is and an objective. Objective is what you hope to achieve in the near future and i can tell you with utmost certainity that IGAD hasnt succeeded at being a trading block. However, it acts as a control to achieve this including the wider comesa objectives. Are you answered? Mark you we have no issues with comesa regions or feed me if any. I only know of sugar importation which we borrowed permision not to do so with an aim of protecting the sugar producing belt zones from imminent collapse. Anyway we are discussing EAC, how does IGAD fit in?
Summing Up!!!
Kenya’s Economic Survey 2010 showed
Nairobi’s exports to Addis Ababa stood at $
43.1 million while Kenya imported goods
worth $2.4 million.

 

[Kidzude]

Bareucracy ni nzuri tu. ila tafsuda imetumika hata, kiutu zima, maana malipo bila risiti ni kitu kidogo, mlungula au kick back, Means jamaa weupe wa bongo ni njaa sana. it will take time to know the importance of credibility in business dealing... Mungu Atusaidie.

 

[Geza Ulole]

understand what a mission is and an objective. Objective is what you hope to achieve in the near future and i can tell you with utmost certainity that IGAD hasnt succeeded at being a trading block. However, it acts as a control to achieve this including the wider comesa objectives. Are you answered? Mark you we have no issues with comesa regions or feed me if any. I only know of sugar importation which we borrowed permision not to do so with an aim of protecting the sugar producing belt zones from imminent collapse. Anyway we are discussing EAC, how does IGAD fit in?
Summing Up!!!
Kenya's Economic Survey 2010 showed
Nairobi's exports to Addis Ababa stood at $
43.1 million while Kenya imported goods
worth $2.4 million.

Be thankful that u can trade with Tanzania instead of being a noise maker!

 

[livefire]

Be thankful that u can trade with Tanzania instead of being a noise maker!

come on, dont be nice or you out of ideas? Kenya n Tz are already transancting, issue is why does the latter keep complaining?
Aside: If you have data about trade btwn Dar and Nairobi please post.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Kama kila kibaya chatoka Tz, nendeni kule kunapopatikana vitu vizuri, kwanini mwang'ang'ana??

Mkuu nakuhunga mkono, kama wanaona hatutaki ku-jump kwenye BANDWAGON YAO mbona hiyo ni kazi rahisi tu-watuache tulivyo, na sidhani kama nchi moja (TANZANIA) inaweza kuathili chochote katika ustawi wao na nchi nyingine za Africa Mashariki hakuna anaye wakataza kushirikiana nazo, wana uhuru wa kushirikiana na nchi zote hizo save TANZANIA. Mimi nisicho taka ni hizi tactics zao za ku-instigate nchi nyingine za Africa Mashariki hili zilahumu TANZANIA kwamba sisi ndiyo kikwazo katika zoezi zima! Waingereza usema "once bitten twice shy" matatizo tuliyo pata baada ya kuvunjika Africa Mashariki tulichekwa sana, hatuwezi kurudia makosa hayo tena na watu walio shinikiza kuvunjika kwa Africa Mashariki in the first place-tuko makini sana nao. Tutajiunga baada ya kujipanga vizuri, not under pressure kwani kuna haraka gani?

Mkuu wala usishangae unang'ag'anizi wao na baadhi yao kuwa namajigambo yasiyo na tija, deep down wanajua they cannot do without TANZANIA; hapa wana-put up a brave face tu hawataki kuwa wakweli kwamba lengo lao hasa hasa ni aridhi YETU, na kutaka ku-flood soko letu na bidhaa zao ili wakudumaze viwanda vyetu - HATUDANGANYIKI.

 

[Kabaridi]

but corruption is the highest trade barrier than weight bridges or id cards or traffic checkpoint or otherwise u r planning to destroy our roads by overweighing or export Mungiki robbers then tell us why are weight bridges and police checkups a hindrance to u! Do u think we forgot the wave of organized crime the Northern Tanzania city of Arusha and town of Moshi experienced from the "Mwangis" and the likes earlier 2000? Stupid report anyway....!

It would be wrong to think that only mwangis commit crime in Tanzani, however the governement there reserves the right to clean its society of "mungiki" menace.

 

[Kabaridi]

Pamoja na sie watz kuwa na matatizo ya kimsingi kama vile ufisadi, rushwa, miundombinu mibovu na mengineyo lakini mie naona tatizo la EAC ni tofauti za kitabia na kimtazamo kati ya wakenya na watanzania. Nionavyo wakenya waliaminishwa sana kuwa wao ni bora zaidi kuliko watanzania na wakaendelea kuamini hivyo kwa muda mrefu sana. Tatizo hilo lipo hata ndani ya kenya ambako wakikuyu wamejiona bora kuliko wengine na kufanikiwa kuwakalia wengine kwa miaka mingi.
Kwa miaka mingi wakenya waliamini kuwa ktk Afrika mashariki wao ndio wako juu na wanaweza kudrive nchi zingine vyovyote wanavyotaka. Walijisikia wanafanikiwa sana walipoona jumuiya imeanzishwa maana wakati huo waligundua kuwa njia pekee ya kenya kumaliza matatizo yake ni kushirikiana na TZ nchi ambayo awali hawakuona umuhimu wake. Wakati huo Tz ilikuwa ikiongozwa na mwandishi wa habari ambaye alikuwa akifanya maamuzi ya kikasuku, aliyefanya kazi ya kuiuza tanzania kwa juhudi kubwa bila hata tahadhari. Alishindwa hata kuona umuhimu wa kusukuma SADC ielekee kwenye shirikisho, akaamua kufuata upepo wa akina Moi kuanzisha jumuiya na watu waliojaa njaa, wajeuri, dharau na kiburi cha kuzaliwa.
Ukweli ni kuwa chuki za sasa kati ya wakenya na waTz zinatokana na mindset ya wakenya kuelekea kwa watz. Dawa yake ni kuanzisha program ya kuwaelimisha wakenya jinsi ya kuwa na staha kwa watu wengine na halafu watambue kuwa pamoja na kuwa Tz kwa sasa tuna uongozi mbovu lakini bado tunatambua kuwa tunatakiwa kulinda maslahi yetu ya kiuchumi, kijamii na kiusalama. Wakenya watarajie ushindani zaidi kiuchumi kutoka Tz kuliko kukumbatiana na kuungana, waendelee kuwaendesha hao wengine wasiowajua vizuri wakenya. Sie watanzania tunawaelewa vizuri wakenya na tunajua vizuri changamoto za muungano kuliko nchi yoyote EAC, na tunajijua vizuri zaidi sie kuliko wakenya wanavyotufahamu. Tunajua tulikotoka na jinsi kenya isivyoaminika na Tz haiwezi kurudia kosa.
Vyombo vya habari vya kenya viache kuiganda Tz kama luba vijikite kuelezea matatizo ya kenya kama vile ukabila, rushwa, ufisadi, ardhi, chokoraa lukuki walio kila mahali pamoja na tatizo la wanaume kupigwa na wake zao.

Kama wakenya wanahitaji sana ushirikiano wa kibiashara na wanaona kuwa EAC kuna vikwazo vingi basi waelekeze nguvu zao ktk IGAD huko watafanya biashara na somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan na Djibout.

@Kibona

Shukrani kwa kujitokeza lakini umewasili na hisia kali raund hii! Nakubali Wakenya wanafaa elimu ya kujua kuishi vyema na wengine. Lakini wacha niseme hivi, wanaodai kufunzwa ni wale wapumbavu/(ignorant bila masomo). Utakuta ni asilimia chache tu ya waKE wanafanya biashara au wenye mali hawana elimu. Lakini wale walio na elimu ni asilimia kubwa. Kimsimgi ugumu tunaoona zimechangiwa sana na yaliotokea katika historia sana sana punde tu Afrika mashariki na nchi zake zilipopata Uhuru wa kujitawala.

Elimu inafaa ipewe wakenya na hata Watz kwa sababu tayari tumeshuhudia kizazi kikipita, na hivi watz wa sasa pia wanahitaji hayo mafunzo ya kuwa na staha na baadhi ya wengine. Mara nyingi huwa nasema na ninarudia, hamutasafiri maili nyingi kutafuta soka ya bidhaa zenu, na nchi za East Africa ndio tegemeo la kwanza mutafikiria kuuza na kununua bidhaa. Unaposema munajifahamu nyie watanzania kwamba muna rushwa na uongozi mbovu, si ni nyie munaowapigia kura hawa viongozi. Tayari unakiri pamoja na uhuru munao, hamuwezi jinusuru kutokana na kuwaingiza viongozi wafisadi na kulingana na post yako una matumaini kwamba munajielewa na mutaipiku kenya kiuchumi.

Kuna ripoti za utenda kazi mbaya katika bandari zenu na kawaida pia KE kuna hizi ripoti. Wakati huu sio wakati wakukaza shingo, bali ni wakati wa kila mmoja aangalie njia za kupunguza rushwa, na vizingiti, na siasa mbaya kwake. Usishangae Rwanda hapa jirani Uganda na Burundi wakipiga hatua katika EAC. Kwa sasa kuna ripoti hata baada ya kuondolewa kwa vizingiti baada ya mkutano wa waakilishi wa EAC, bado serikali inazuia watu na malori yao kuwatoleza dola 200, la sivyo paspoti zinachukuliwa na maafisa wa polisi kwa madai ya kuwa nchini humo bila paspoti. A very bad system ya "ugavi wa mamlaka" ambao hauheshimu baadhi ya viongozi na mwito wao.

Mradi tu tungeendeleza kile Mkapa na M7 walianzisha mwaka 2001, tungekuwa tunafungua kurasa mpya katika kuboreshwa kwa sekta za uuzaji, ununuzi, na usafirishaji wa bidhaa ndani ya Jumuiya. Lakini ndio vituko tunavyo hapa Afrika siasa za ubinafsi zinazuia maendeleo bila kujua kilicho na mwanzo hakikiosi kuwa na mwisho.

 

[Kabaridi]

Mkuu nakuhunga mkono, kama wanaona hatutaki ku-jump kwenye BANDWAGON YAO mbona hiyo ni kazi rahisi tu-watuache tulivyo, na sidhani kama nchi moja (TANZANIA) inaweza kuathili chochote katika ustawi wao na nchi nyingine za Africa Mashariki hakuna anaye wakataza kushirikiana nazo, wana uhuru wa kushirikiana na nchi zote hizo save TANZANIA. Mimi nisicho taka ni hizi tactics zao za ku-instigate nchi nyingine za Africa Mashariki hili zilahumu TANZANIA kwamba sisi ndiyo kikwazo katika zoezi zima! Waingereza usema "once bitten twice shy" matatizo tuliyo pata baada ya kuvunjika Africa Mashariki tulichekwa sana, hatuwezi kurudia makosa hayo tena na watu walio shinikiza kuvunjika kwa Africa Mashariki in the first place-tuko makini sana nao. Tutajiunga baada ya kujipanga vizuri, not under pressure kwani kuna haraka gani?

Mkuu wala usishangae unang'ag'anizi wao na baadhi yao kuwa namajigambo yasiyo na tija, deep down wanajua they cannot do without TANZANIA; hapa wana-put up a brave face tu hawataki kuwa wakweli kwamba lengo lao hasa hasa ni aridhi YETU, na kutaka ku-flood soko letu na bidhaa zao ili wakudumaze viwanda vyetu - HATUDANGANYIKI.

Wakenya wakadumaze viwanda, huku Serikali ikiwa wapi ya kuweka regulations? au unakiri kuwa mlungula imeshamiri sana kutoweza kuzuia kudumazwa kwa viwanda. Sikutarajia, maswala ya ardhi ijitokeze, na Serikali reserves the right to allocate land to whomever it feels safe to do so based on the land clauses of the constitution. Natumai nimekujibu!! Kawaida munahofu na mambo ya ardhi na swali langu ni silaha kama katiba ni ya kazi gani ikiwa watu wataendelea kukuwa na hofu. Hii ndio custodian.

Hraka hamna, ila ni vizazi vyakuja na vyapita bila lolote kuwasilishwa au kutekelezwa. Tangu 77 mpaka saa hii mwalia tu, au sielewi kuna baadhi yenu hamuna habari ya kile serikali imepanga inafanya

 

[Geza Ulole]

6th April 12
Non-tariff barriers impact on businesses in EAC - report

East African News Agency
Non-Tariff barriers (NTBs) continue hindering effective running of businesses in the East African Community (EAC), according to a report compiled following a recent ministerial assessment of the ports of Mombasa in Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
Bureaucratic practices at the two ports, unnecessary roadblocks and other administrative issues, are among the main stumbling-blocks to progressive business in the region, the report says.
Many weighbridges in the northern and central corridors, the report adds, result in goods not reaching their destinations on time. Some of the affected destinations are Burundi, Rwanda and Uganda with 36 roadblocks between Mombasa and Kigali and 30 between Dar es Salaam and Rusumo border. Uganda has nine roadblocks between Malaba and Gatuna.

Rwanda and Burundi are doing better than the rest EAC member states in this regard.

The report also says lengthy procedures in issuance of work permits among EAC partner States, especially Tanzania, are a big challenge. Other problems highlighted include lack of car parks at border posts, corruption and prohibition of cargo trucks from travelling beyond 18:00 within Tanzania.
Rwandan Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Trade and Industry Emmanuel Hategeka told a press conference in Kigali recently that negotiations to ensure total elimination of barriers were ongoing.
"We are discussing with other EAC members states to reduce weighbridges, especially as regards transit cargo in the corridors," he said.
The northern and central corridors link the two ports to the hinterland. Tanzania has agreed to remove a US$200 levy imposed on Kenyan trucks and also scrapped visa charges on Kenyan traders entering the country.
Several regional truck drivers told EANA that roadblocks were an enormous challenge in the EAC.
"Roadblocks are detrimental to trade. There are many roadblocks in Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda," said a driver who declined to be named. "They are a headache and cause losses in form of bribes paid at each roadblock."
However, Rwanda Revenue Authority taxpayers service development director Drocella Mukashyaka told EANA that there were no roadblocks in the country.

The ministerial assessment team report says most of the hurdles could be prevented by weighing transit vehicles twice from the port of entry and port of exit for Kenya, Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi as Tanzania awaits a study on the establishment of the weighbridges.

THE GUARDIAN

MY TAKE
If u read the two reports i.e. the Nation and The Guardian u can clearly see the Nyang'aus agenda! Here Ippmedia went as far as telling the numbers n not loose statements of which can easily convince anyone that they were not aiming at propaganda smear games! If we look at a distance btn Dar and Rusumo and the distance between Mombasa and Kigali can someone get the calculation of the ration of weighbridges per km?

 

[FJM]

@Kibona

Shukrani kwa kujitokeza lakini umewasili na hisia kali raund hii! Nakubali Wakenya wanafaa elimu ya kujua kuishi vyema na wengine. Lakini wacha niseme hivi, wanaodai kufunzwa ni wale wapumbavu/(ignorant bila masomo). Utakatu ni asilimia chache tu ya waKE wanafanya biashara au wenye mali hawana elimu. Lakini wale walio na elimu ni asilimia kubwa. Kimsimgi ugumu tunaoona zimechangiwa sana na yaliotokea katika historia sana sana punde tu Afrika mashariki na nchi zake zilipopata Uhuru wa kujitawala.

Elimu inafaa ipewe wakenya na hata Watz kwa sababu tayari tumeshuhudia kizazi kikipita, na hivi watz wa sasa pia wanahitaji hayo mafunzo ya kuwa na staha na baadhi ya wengine. Mara nyingi huwa nasema na ninarudia, hamutasafiri maili nyingi kutafuta soka ya bidhaa zenu, na nchi za East Africa ndio tegemeo la kwanza mutafikiria kuuza na kununua bidhaa. Unaposema munajifahamu nyie watanzania kwamba muna rushwa na uongozi mbovu, si ni nyie munaowapigia kura hawa viongozi. Tayari unakiri pamoja na uhuru munao, hamuwezi jinusuru kutokana na kuwaingiza viongozi wafisadi na kulingana na post yako una matumaini kwamba munajielewa na mutaipiku kenya kiuchumi.

Kuna ripoti za utenda kazi mbaya katika bandari zenu na kawaida pia KE kuna hizi ripoti. Wakati huu sio wakati wakukaza shingo, bali ni wakati wa kila mmoja aangalie njia za kupunguza rushwa, na vizingiti, na siasa mbaya kwake. Usishangae Rwanda hapa jirani Uganda na Burundi wakipiga hatua katika EAC. Kwa sasa kuna ripoti hata baada ya kuondolewa kwa vizingiti baada ya mkutano wa waakilishi wa EAC, bado serikali inazuia watu na malori yao kuwatoleza dola 200, la sivyo paspoti zinachukuliwa na maafisa wa polisi kwa madai ya kuwa nchini humo bila paspoti. A very bad system ya "ugavi wa mamlaka" ambao hauheshimu baadhi ya viongozi na mwito wao.

Mradi tu tungeendeleza kile Mkapa na M7 walianzisha mwaka 2001, tungekuwa tunafungua kurasa mpya katika kuboreshwa kwa sekta za uuzaji, ununuzi, na usafirishaji wa bidhaa ndani ya Jumuiya. Lakini ndio vituko tunavyo hapa Afrika siasa za ubinafsi zinazuia maendeleo bila kujua kilicho na mwanzo hakikiosi kuwa na mwisho.

Mzalendo452,

Hii ndiyo aina ya debate nilitarijia baina ya wadau wa nchi hizi mbili. Kwanza kujadili kwa kuheshimiana na pili kutambua historical nature ya mambo yaliyo mezani. Jambo moja ambalo mimi ninatofautiana na wewe ni pale unaposema kuwa wanohitaji elimu ya kutambua kuishi vizuri na jirani ni watu wapumbavu - watu ambao hawajapata 'formal education'. Kwa hakika huhitaji kupata PhD ya chemistry au electonics ili kujua namna ya kuishi na jirani.

Kwa mfano, week iliyopita hapa London, Saatchi na mke wake Nigella Lawson wameuza flat yao waliyokuwa wanaishi hapo zamani. Na sababu kubwa iliyowafanya wakahama toka kwenye hiyo flat ni mzozo na jirani zao. Saatchi sio mpumbavu, yeye na kaka yake ndio walianzisha Saatchi & Saatchi, pia mke wake (Nigella) sio mpumbavu, ameenda shule, na ni mtoto wa former chancellor of Exchequer Lord Lawson. Hivyo mgogoro kati ya majirani unaweza kutokea regardless watu hao wamesoma au la.

Tukirukudi hapa kwetu, nakubaliana kabisa na Kibona kwamba friction kati ya Kenya na Tanzania ni historical. Na hata leo hii ukifanya survey Kenya, statistically, watu wengi watasema watanzania ni 'wapumbavu' na nchi ni backward. Vivyo hivyo ukifanya survey Tanzania, statistically, watu wengi watakuambia wakenya ni manyang'au, wabinafsi na walafi wa pesa. Hizi ni feelings kati wa nchi hizi mbili, na zimedumu kwa muda mrefu. Na katika mazingira haya ni mwendawazimu tu ndiyo anaamini kuwa unaweza ku-fast track muungano (hata wa kuchota maji ya kunywesha mbuzi)!

Tanzania na Kenya ni nchi mbili tofauti kabisa na zimejengwa kwenye misingi tofauti. Tangu uhuru Kenya ime-emabrace capitalism, huku Tanzania wakiegemea african socialism. Hii ndiyo misingi inayofuma (suka) 'fabric' ya society kwa nchi hizi mbili. And unless kunakuwepo na juhudi za maksudi ili watu wa nchi hizi mbili wafahamiane EAC itakuwa zigzag. Tayari tuna skeleton in our cupboard, East Africa Community ya miaka ya 1970 ilikufa kwa sababu hizi hizi ambazo zinatuzonga sasa. Na watanzania dakika hii wangeulizwa wanataka nini EAC, I am almost certain wengi watasema tugawane mbao (kama zipo) kila mtu aende zake. People hate EAC with a passion. Na wanaposikia kelele mara za ardhi, free movement of labour, trade etc ndio wanazidi kupatwa na nyongo. tuachie hapo.

Hapo kwenye blue: Dawa ya kupambana na rushwa, ufisadi etc si kubalisha mtu mmoja mmoja tu. You need to do more than that. Ni lazime kuwepo na institutional framework strong enough ili kukabiliana na viongozi wabovu. Ndio maana tunaandaa katiba mpya. Na harakati za kudai katiba mpya zimedumu kwa miaka aprox 20 sasa (tangu 1992), better late than never. Hivyo tunajua tatizo la msingi ni lipi na kama jamii we are now doing something about it. Ninaamini tatizo la rushwa na ufisadi haliko tu Tanzania, Kenya nako kuna a catalogue iliyosheni kama x'mas tree. Na huko nyuma ilikuwa ni shida kupambana na ufisadi kwa sababu 'institutional framework' ililalia upande wa wakubwa, lakini baada ya kupata katiba mpya tunaona ile nguvu ya watawala kufunika mambo inapungua na wananchi wanakuwa na sauti stahiki kwenye ulingo wa utwala.

Ninachotaka kusema hapa, kama nchi, Tanzania tuna matatizo yetu and we are addressing them in our own way. Mahusiano mazuri kati nchi jirani kwenye nyanja mbalimbali i.e biashara, siasa ni jambo la kheri lakini kwa sasa EAC sio priority kwa watanzania wengi, EAC si mama wala baba wa watanzania. La msingi ni kusafisha nyumba na kuhakikisha msingi uko imara, and kama umesoma kwenye sub-forums hapa jamvini utaona kelele nyingi kati ya CHADEMA na CCM. EAC ni nyongeza.

Hivyo basi, kama nchi nyingine zinakwazwa na Tanzania kwa namna yoyote ile, basi ni vema wakajipanga upya na kuendelea bila Tanzania. But for nown, we are very busy sorting out our fundementals. Kelele hazitasaidia kitu zaidi ya kutibua nyongo za watu.

 

[livefire]

6th April 12
Non-tariff barriers impact on businesses in EAC - report

East African News Agency
Non-Tariff barriers (NTBs) continue hindering effective running of businesses in the East African Community (EAC), according to a report compiled following a recent ministerial assessment of the ports of Mombasa in Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
Bureaucratic practices at the two ports, unnecessary roadblocks and other administrative issues, are among the main stumbling-blocks to progressive business in the region, the report says.
Many weighbridges in the northern and central corridors, the report adds, result in goods not reaching their destinations on time. Some of the affected destinations are Burundi, Rwanda and Uganda with 36 roadblocks between Mombasa and Kigali and 30 between Dar es Salaam and Rusumo border. Uganda has nine roadblocks between Malaba and Gatuna.

Rwanda and Burundi are doing better than the rest EAC member states in this regard.

The report also says lengthy procedures in issuance of work permits among EAC partner States, especially Tanzania, are a big challenge. Other problems highlighted include lack of car parks at border posts, corruption and prohibition of cargo trucks from travelling beyond 18:00 within Tanzania.
Rwandan Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Trade and Industry Emmanuel Hategeka told a press conference in Kigali recently that negotiations to ensure total elimination of barriers were ongoing.
“We are discussing with other EAC members states to reduce weighbridges, especially as regards transit cargo in the corridors,” he said.
The northern and central corridors link the two ports to the hinterland. Tanzania has agreed to remove a US$200 levy imposed on Kenyan trucks and also scrapped visa charges on Kenyan traders entering the country.
Several regional truck drivers told EANA that roadblocks were an enormous challenge in the EAC.
"Roadblocks are detrimental to trade. There are many roadblocks in Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda," said a driver who declined to be named. "They are a headache and cause losses in form of bribes paid at each roadblock."
However, Rwanda Revenue Authority taxpayers service development director Drocella Mukashyaka told EANA that there were no roadblocks in the country.

The ministerial assessment team report says most of the hurdles could be prevented by weighing transit vehicles twice from the port of entry and port of exit for Kenya, Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi as Tanzania awaits a study on the establishment of the weighbridges.

THE GUARDIAN

MY TAKE
If u read the two reports i.e. the Nation and The Guardian u can clearly see the Nyang'aus agenda! Here Ippmedia went as far as telling the numbers n not loose statements of which can easily convince anyone that they were not aiming at propaganda smear games! If we look at a distance btn Dar and Rusumo and the distance between Mombasa and Kigali can someone get the calculation of the ration of weighbridges per km?

i told you that you are very reckless with data when it comes to Kenya. You have 58 weigh bridges between Dar and Rusumo and not 30.....way too many for 1200 km. Kenyas distance to kigali is 1470km and thats 36 WBGS. Link coming up

 

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In a distance, for instance, of 1,200 kilometres from Dar es Salaam to Rusumo at the Tanzania-Rwanda border, there are about58 roadblocks which do not only reduce cargo transport efficiency but also inconvenience transporters.

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In a distance, for instance, of 1,200 kilometres from Dar es Salaam to Rusumo at the Tanzania-Rwanda border, there are about58 roadblocks which do not only reduce cargo transport efficiency but also inconvenience transporters.

Traffic police to use hi-tech phones to cut roadblocks | TradeMark SA

Livefire, una source yako inayosema there 58 roadblock, na Geza anayo source yake inayosema kuna 30 roadblocks!

 

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Livefire, una source yako inayosema there 58 roadblock, na Geza anayo source yake inayosema kuna 30 roadblocks!

FJM asanta lakini lets analyse this without digging into hate manouvres. the guardian journalist is based where? Certainly not in africa and not Tz. i dislike/hate ''his'' campaign in tainting Kenya as having an agenda which we dont. Otherwise the forum is great n thanks for moderating the air.