Poppy Hatonn
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Why you left where I'm headed?I used to be.
Those seem to be vastly different things, the body is quite different from the feelings and thoughts...but I, feels to be a one thing.When you say " I " you mean the body,the feelings,the perceptions,formation predispositions(your habitual thoughts), and consciousness.
You are very misinformed. Buddhist hawaabudu sanamu.U used to be Buddhist?? Hawa wanaoabudu vitu vya ajabu na masanamu??
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I second thisHere is some Buddha chat
At the Gotamaka Shrine On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at the Gotamaka Shrine, near Vesālī. There the Blessed One addressed the monks thus: “On the basis of direct knowledge I teach the Dhamma, O monks, not without direct knowledge. On good grounds I teach the Dhamma, not without good grounds. Convincingly I teach the Dhamma, not unconvincingly. Therefore, monks, my advice should be followed and my instruction accepted. This, monks, is sufficient for your satisfaction, sufficient for your gladness, sufficient for your joy: fully enlightened is the Blessed One; well proclaimed is the Blessed One’s Dhamma; well conducted is the Sangha.” Thus spoke the Blessed One. Gladdened, those monks approved the Blessed One’s words. While this discourse was being spoken, the thousandfold world system shook.
Now,this is a quotation from The Buddha. We could write such a one like this every day till the end of the year in some kind of Buddha thought for the day column.
Mkuu kuna vigezo au utaratibu wowote wa kuingia kwenye hiyo temple? Nameditate nahitaji sehem ya kujumuikaKama unapata muda unaweza tembelea temple yao kwa Dar ipo Muhimbili. Me huwa naenda kwa ajili ya Meditation kila jumapili.
I am ahead of you by at least 20 years.Why you left where I'm headed?
Monk wa sehemu gan mkuuRev Pannasekara ndiye Monk Mkaazi,Resident Monk. Lakini anakuwa na safari nyingi za kwenda Masasi.0757 713 137.
No. yangu mimi ni 0652 079 561.
Mkuu,Nimeipenda exchange yako February Makamba na Kiranga
It shows Kiranga is a typical personification of how to really reject sth.
You reject each and everything totally, aani in toto. Ni kama wamarekani weusi na wajamaika anakuambia 'There is no, nothing' 'You cant tell me nothing' aani unakataa hadi cha mwisho.
Anayeogopa kufa na kutamani aendelee kuishi ni yule ambaye at least amekubali kuwa yupo na anaishi. Lakini asiye na wazo hilo hana maumivu yoyote na kufa. He never was there anyway. Na ndivyo itakavyohitimishwa baadaye, mwisho wake ni kuwa kama vile hukuwahi kuwepo kweli (kufa).
It is simply a choice one makes. And each choice is perfect for the one making it. He enjoys it fully! God allows that because he really loves YOU. So He allows you to partake the best thing specifically assigned so by YOU. Be it Life or Death.
And to February, the river course and liver water example was on point. A person is that which is a constantly changing constant. For life itself is dynamic, and needs do change but there is something that is always there, taking different forms and characters but it is the same 'it'. Like some form of a personality.
A man will say, I think therefore I am
While God just says, I AM THAT I AM. The whole 'thing' is just IS!!. So Mr. Kiranga, you may call this an illusion. Okay, but heey.... therefore this illusion is all there is. Rejecting 'it', is rejecting reality itself.
And when you decide to reject the whole reality, in order to find 'the alternative to reality' which has to be another reality.... I am lost... I mean what is it that you are doing again[emoji2955][emoji2955]!!?
Sir, rejecting reality is entertaining non reality. If reality is existance and the life- experience we have therefore so non-reality is simply death. Not this, temporaly rest tu, a aah. Death in the full sense of the word on the side of the one dying. You can't even say 'the one experiencing death'. No. It doesn't work that way.
Buddhist Temple, Upanga, Dar es salaam.Monk wa sehemu gan mkuu
Sir, you have managed 🤣🤣🤣🤣Mkuu,
First things first, there is no nothing.
It is just a representation by an abstract concept.
And even that abstract concept is not nothing.
It is an abstract concept of nothing.
Nothing does not exist.
And if it would exist, it wouldn't be nothing.
It would be the existence of nothing.
The existence if nothing is not nothing.
It is tye existence of nothing.
The non existence of nothing is not nothing.
It is the non existence if nothing.
So, there is no nothing.
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Why then did you leave buddhism?I am ahead of you by at least 20 years.
Second.Sir, you have managed [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
To present out a very confusing idea.
I am here wondering, how did you manage not to confuse yourself along the way.
Anyway that was the first, you can proceed.
I was attracted to Buddhism by its more philosophical nature, more peaceful outlook and my intrigue with meditation.Why then did you leave buddhism?
You are a Middle Way philosopher,just like Nagarjuna. I can assure you,you will have no trouble understanding the Buddhist doctrine . But this abtruse metaphysical teaching much much later. At the beginning the Buddha taught in very simple languageSecond.
I have never rejected anything totally, to my recollection.
If you notice, even this statement is qualified.
I mostly use frameworks, definitions, contexts to bring perspective and a sense of intelligent humility in even my strongest assertions.
That is why I don't simply say, for example "God does not exist". At keast not in the initial defining instance of any thread.
Rather, I define, I give a framework/context, and then I make my assertion.
Example.
The all knowing, all capable and all loving God (definition) in a logically consistent world (framework) cannot exist due to internal contradictions such as exemplified by the Epicurean Paradox (assertion and reason for assertion and example)
Godel's Incompleteness Theorems forbid total acceptance or total rejection without frameworks, proper definitions and contexts.
So, if you have an example of an unqualified rejection or acceptance from my side, please bring it here as an example for further examination.
Poppy Hatonn tumekutana Buddhist Temple mara kadhaa nakumbuka Rev. Pannasekara alikuwa anataka kutafsiri Dhammapada kwenda kwenye Kiswahili akatupa hiyo kazi mimi na wewe.You are a Middle Way philosopher,just like Nagarjuna. I can assure you,you will have no trouble understanding the Buddhist doctrine . But this abtruse metaphysical teaching much much later. At the beginning the Buddha taught in very simple language
Sorry, I'm kind of a newbee. I do but have a couple of questions;But eventually I realized that Buddhism is just another religion/ philosophy, a narrative -beautiful natrative- but very human.
Ultimately it rested on a lot of unproven and unprovable mysticism that has no scientific base that I found to be incredible not only empirically, but also logically.