RWANDA REFUGEES IN Tanzania...KAGAME ....

[Paul Kijoka]

tatizo la kagame ni kuwa tumeingilia maslahi yake.
lakin analofanya kagame isiwe sababu ya kuwachukia wanyarwanda.

Wewe na nani? Unaongea usichokijua wewe! Bora yeye anapambana na Nterahamoi, Banyamrenge... wasirudi Rwanda ajenge nchi yake, JK anapigania Riz1 afanye biashara na Kabila kwa manufaa ya familia yao na baadhi ya wahuni ndani ya CCM. Mnasema msilolijua.

 

[Paul Kijoka]

Tanzania imekuwa kimbilio la amani kwa mataifa mengi kama Rwanda, Burundi na Congo kwa miaka mingi. ukienda mkoa wa kagera hata kigoma, wakimbizi hadi wamekuwa raia, tumewalisha na kuwapa maeneo hadi ya kulima...lakini utashangaa mtu kama PAUL KAGAME, asiye na shukran, amesahau yote hayo. labda kwasababu tuliwapokea wakimbizi walio wengi wahutu?...mbona wakimbizi wa kitusi wengi tu tumekuwa tukiwapokea tangu miaka ya 1950? tumewapokea, nimezaliwa mimi nikiona wakimbizi wapo hapa tz na kuambiwa wametoka Rwanda na Burundi. tumepokea watusi na wahutu kwa miaka mingi, lakini angalia kagame anavyokuja kututukana sisi watz na rais wetu kana kwamba hatujawahi kuwapatia makazi kipindi wanakimbia kifo.....SHUKRAN YA PUNDA SIKU ZOTE NI MATEKE.

Kagame ana tatizo gani lkn? Amefanya kazi kwa bidii sana. DRC anatafuta waasi. JK anazungu nchi nzima kuhubiri udini! Anapiga porojo tu. Kuna Prof. mmoja wa UDSM (UDBS) anaitwa Maghimbi. Wewe angekuambia "You're talking Rubbish'

 

[Paul Kijoka]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_6ZNbYdWzQ
Ebu gonga hapo nyie wenye vichwa vya panzi, mjue hii kitu imeanzia mbali.

 

[rushasha]

Kagame ana tatizo gani lkn? Amefanya kazi kwa bidii sana. DRC anatafuta waasi. JK anazungu nchi nzima kuhubiri udini! Anapiga porojo tu. Kuna Prof. mmoja wa UDSM (UDBS) anaitwa Maghimbi. Wewe angekuambia "You're talking Rubbish'

Kagame ana matatizo mengi, sio tatizo! DRC hatafuti waasi anatafuta mali za DRC na kuuwa wakongoman. Kagame is blood thirty tyrant. Who are you to question about our President Kikwete? Aliwahi kuvamia nchi gani comparing to kagame who has invaded rwanda from uganda and now DRC? Do not think that we dont know your evil agenda you tutsi.....and by the way it is you who is talking rubbish...

 

[rushasha]

You guys really need to learn about how you are being manipulated.

can you tell us how are we being manipulated and by who?...

 

[emike]

leo serikali ya tanzania imepiga marufuku residential permits zilizotolewa kwa wageni wanaoishi kwenye mikoa ya kagera, kigoma na geita na imesema zoezi hilo litawagusa watu zaidi ya 51000, kumbe mtikila was right, au ni madhara ya pk kumtukana jk!!!!

 

[Koba]

Kagame ana matatizo mengi, sio tatizo! DRC hatafuti waasi anatafuta mali za DRC na kuuwa wakongoman. Kagame is blood thirty tyrant. Who are you to question about our President Kikwete? Aliwahi kuvamia nchi gani comparing to kagame who has invaded rwanda from uganda and now DRC? Do not think that we dont know your evil agenda you tutsi.....and by the way it is you who is talking rubbish...

Ha ahaha ahaha just hate and smacks of lies,huna jipya wewe ...next!

 

[masopakyindi]

Mkuu kosa la JK hujaliona bado?
JK anakosa la kwenda kuongea nje mambo ya chumbani kwanini asingemwita kagame na kuongea naye? yeye kaenda kusema mataifa makubwa? Najua TZ kwanza lakini nadhani hata jk kakosea sana kuropoka!

Akili ndogo hizo!
Kumwambia mtu ongea na upatane na nduguyo ndo kuropoka?

 

[Bongolander]

Alichosema Ruzibiza nimewaambia mara nyingi sana lakini majibu niliyopata ni tutsi blood sucker and name calling,hata yeye alisha give up amekuambia maana alichokuwa anapata ni matusi tuu ,to me hapa imebaki mazoea tuu and more of entertainment kuliko serious or legit debate

Koba hapa JF name calling ni kitu cha kawaida sana, lakini ukiwa unakuja na hoja, wenye vioja wanakimbia wenyewe. Hiyo isikupe shida. Mimi mwenyewe hapa kuna baadhi ya members wanaanza kuniiita mnyarwanda.

Unajua mimi moja ya linalonitatiza ni ku-equate PK na wanyarwanda na watusi. The guy is just the President of Rwanda, he is not a representative of tutsi people, siamini kama kila anachosema watusi wote wanakiunga mkono au wanakifurahia, kwa hiyo pamoja na kuwa PK ni mtu muhimu sana kwa Rwanda, sio kila debate kuhusu wanyarwanda au watusi, iwe around PK. Kuna wengine wanamkimbia, kuna wengine wanasema kabisa kuwa wanaogpa kutoa maoni yao kutokana na system aliyoiweka sasa inawakosesha room ya kutoa maoni. Tanzania tuna watusi wengi tu, wengi walikuwa na wanaendelea kuishi hapa bila matatizo hata kabla PK na RPF hawajaja. Jenerali Twaha Ulimwengu ni mtusi, lakini ni mfano mzuri sana wa mtanzania mzalendo kuliko Mtikila, wapo wengi sana. sioni kama ni busara kuweka watu kwenye collective guilty kutokana na kauli za mtusi mmoja.

 

[The Prezident]

Wewe na nani? Unaongea usichokijua wewe! Bora yeye anapambana na Nterahamoi, Banyamrenge... wasirudi Rwanda ajenge nchi yake, JK anapigania Riz1 afanye biashara na Kabila kwa manufaa ya familia yao na baadhi ya wahuni ndani ya CCM. Mnasema msilolijua.

Kagame ana tatizo gani lkn? Amefanya kazi kwa bidii sana. DRC anatafuta waasi. JK anazungu nchi nzima kuhubiri udini! Anapiga porojo tu. Kuna Prof. mmoja wa UDSM (UDBS) anaitwa Maghimbi. Wewe angekuambia "You're talking Rubbish'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_6ZNbYdWzQ
Ebu gonga hapo nyie wenye vichwa vya panzi, mjue hii kitu imeanzia mbali.

Wewe, wewee, Paul Kijoka!!! ...-Watch your language when it comes to the-dignity-of The President of Tanzania!

 

[rushasha]

Ha ahaha ahaha just hate and smacks of lies,huna jipya wewe ...next!

There is neither hate nor lies here....u just keep on with your dreams!.. that is the naked truth, and there is more. Wewe endelea kupiga kelele tu. Unajua nini Koba, we are all Africans, we need to build our continent, sasa pale panapohitaji kusema ukweli tuseme.

 

[omujubi]

Je, hili jibu linaashiria nini kwa mahusiano ya hizi nchi mbili zilizomo ndani ya Jumuiya Moja - EAC!!??

Tanzania imetoa muda wa wiki mbili kwa majambazi kujisalimisha, na wahamiaji haramu kuondoka nchini humo kwa hiari, ama sivyo watakabiliwa na operesheni kubwa kuwahi kutokea nchini humo. Agizo hilo lilitolewa na rais wa nchi hiyo Jakaya Kikwete alipokuwa ziarani mkoani mwishoni mwa mwezi wa Julai, na linahusu mikoa mitatu, yaani Kagera, Geita na Kigoma. Nchi ya Rwanda, ambayo baadhi ya wahamiaji hao walengwa ni raia wake, imesema iko Tayari kuwapokea, na kuwa imewasiliana na Tanzania ili watu hao wasihujumiwe wakati wa zoezi hilo la kurudi kwao. Je, Tamko la serikali dhidi ya wahamiaji haramu na majambazi litachangia kwa ukubwa gani kuimarisha usalama?
Source: DW

 

[Isaiah59]

Rais Dr. J. Kikwete hakukosea aliposema nchi husika zikae na wapinzani wa serikali zao kuwasilikiliza madai yao ili kupata njia ya kumaliza ugonvi ambao umedumu kwa miaka mingi. Naamini kila mjumbe alitoa mchango wake katika kikao kile cha AU. Mara nyingi ushauri siyo agizo au amri. Walengwa wana uhuru wa kuupokea au kuukataa. Ni jambo lisiloeleweka kwa baadhi ya wachangiaji katika hoja hii kumtaka Mheshimiwa na Rais Kikwete aombe msamaha kwa ushauri alioutoa. Nanukuu "

By Henge Mkuu kosa la JK hujaliona bado?
JK anakosa la kwenda kuongea nje mambo ya chumbani kwanini asingemwita kagame na kuongea naye? yeye kaenda kusema mataifa makubwa? Najua TZ kwanza lakini nadhani hata jk kakosea sana kuropoka!" mwisho wa kunukuu. Rais Kikwete ni Rais wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania na sio mmoja wa mawaziri wa Kagame. Maneno yaliyotumiwa na mchangiaji ni ya dharau kwa Rais halali wa Tanzania na kwamba ni dharau kwa watanzania waliomchagua awaongoze. Narudia kuuliza! ukikataa kukutana na adui yako unategemea kumaliza ugonvi kwa njia gani? ya vita? kama ni vita au mapigano mbona yapo na hayaishi? kwa nini watu waendelee kuuwawa ndani ya nchi yao? Yeyote anaye mtakia mafanikio mema ya uongozi P. Kagame amshauri kuupokea ushauri wa bure wa Rais Kikwete hii ndiyo njia isiyo na gharama katika kumaliza mzozo uliodumu kwa miaka mingi. Nashauri, unapotoa maoni juu ya viongozi usitumie maneno mabaya yanayo udhi wengine. Chagua maneno mazuri ambayo mtu mwingine angekwambia wewe usingekasirika.

 

[Bongolander]

Je, hili jibu linaashiria nini kwa mahusiano ya hizi nchi mbili zilizomo ndani ya Jumuiya Moja - EAC!!??

Mkuu tuunatakiwa tujue kuwa uhusiano kati ya Tanzania na Rwanda haujajengwa kwenye msingi wa urafiki kati ya JK na PK. Na hivyo hivyo hauwezi kuondolewa kutokana na uhasama na kudharauriana kati ya JK na PK. Watanzania hawana chuki na mnyarwanda (mhutu au mtusi) kama moto ukiwaka kule waje tu Tanzania.

JK atapita na PK atapita Tanzania na Rwanda na watu wake wataendelea kuwepo.

 

[Chimo]

Mkuu kosa la JK hujaliona bado?
JK anakosa la kwenda kuongea nje mambo ya chumbani kwanini asingemwita kagame na kuongea naye? yeye kaenda kusema mataifa makubwa? Najua TZ kwanza lakini nadhani hata jk kakosea sana kuropoka!

muogope mungu wako wewe uongo RAMADHAN yote hii funga bakuli lako kama Hujui kilichotokea

 

[Nonda]

1. inafuatana ushauri aliutolewa wapi? kwanini asimuite kama rafiki?
2. Sijawahi sikia akiongea najua ni sababu anajua alikosea
3.Alishikwa na bado anahasira nasisi anashangaa mbona hukumwambia kama rafiki badala yake umeenda kumtangaza mbele za watu
4. Wanaongelea kwasababu wanajua Tanzania ni jeshi kubwa wanaogopa

Kama habari Kwa kiswahili ni shida kuielewa soma hapa.Link Talk to Your Armed Opposition, Tanzanian President Kikwete Tells Yoweri Museveni of Uganda, Paul Kagame of Rwanda, and Joseph Kabila of DRC
Kwa nini unafikiri JK alikosea kutoa ushauri huo kwa viongozi ambao nchi zao zina mizozo? Viongozi ambao wote walikuwa wanahudhuria mkutano unaozungumzia amani katika nchi za maziwa makuu?

 

[Bongolander]

highlander, koba, rushasha, murutongore, Henge na Ruzibina what will happen if the personal feud between JK and PK will result into JK arming FDLR, or Tanzania for that matter chooses to support FLDR militarily or financially, just like PK is doing for M23. Will that be a game changer, or are we going to see M24 in Tanzania?

 

[murutongore]

Bongolander

He will go to the Hague like Charles Taylor. He will be arming a group that is listed by all nations in the world as a terrorist group. Plain and simple. I don't think he is that dumb. below is the current CIA information from the state department.


Army for the

Liberation of Rwanda
(ALIR)
a.k.a. Interahamwe,
Former Armed Forces of
Rwanda (ex-FAR)
Description
The FAR was the army of the Rwandan Hutu regime that carried out the genocide of
500,000 or more Tutsis and regime opponents in 1994. The Interahamwe was the civilian
militia force that carried out much of the killing. The groups merged and recruited
additional fighters after they were forced from Rwanda into the Democratic Republic of
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Congo (then Zaire) in 1994. They are now often known as the Army for the Liberation of
Rwanda (ALIR), which is the armed branch of the PALIR or Party for the Liberation of
Rwanda.
Activities
The group seeks to topple Rwanda’s Tutsi-dominated government, reinstitute Hutu
control, and, possibly, complete the genocide. In 1996, a message allegedly from the
ALIR threatened to kill the US Ambassador to Rwanda and other US citizens. In 1999,
ALIR guerrillas critical of alleged US-UK support for the Rwandan regime kidnapped and
killed eight foreign tourists, including two US citizens, in a game park on the
Congo-Uganda border. In the current Congolese war, the ALIR is allied with Kinshasa
against the Rwandan invaders. The Government of Rwanda recently transferred to US
custody three former ALIR insurgents who are suspects in the 1999 Bwindi Park murder
case.

Strength
Several thousand ALIR regular forces operate alongside the Congolese army on the front
lines of the Congo civil war, while a like number of ALIR guerrillas operate in eastern
Congo closer to the Rwandan border.
Location/Area of Operation
Mostly Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda, but some operate in Burundi.

External Support
The Democratic Republic of the Congo has provided ALIR forces in Congo with training,
arms, and supplies.

 

[The Quonquerer]

bongolander is smart unlike rushasha who hate people on the basis of ethnicity . ..

 

[emike]

Bongolander

He will go to the Hague like Charles Taylor. He will be arming a group that is listed by all nations in the world as a terrorist group. Plain and simple. I don't think he is that dumb. below is the current CIA information from the state department.


Army for the

Liberation of Rwanda
(ALIR)
a.k.a. Interahamwe,
Former Armed Forces of
Rwanda (ex-FAR)
Description
The FAR was the army of the Rwandan Hutu regime that carried out the genocide of
500,000 or more Tutsis and regime opponents in 1994. The Interahamwe was the civilian
militia force that carried out much of the killing. The groups merged and recruited
additional fighters after they were forced from Rwanda into the Democratic Republic of
130
Congo (then Zaire) in 1994. They are now often known as the Army for the Liberation of
Rwanda (ALIR), which is the armed branch of the PALIR or Party for the Liberation of
Rwanda.
Activities
The group seeks to topple Rwanda’s Tutsi-dominated government, reinstitute Hutu
control, and, possibly, complete the genocide. In 1996, a message allegedly from the
ALIR threatened to kill the US Ambassador to Rwanda and other US citizens. In 1999,
ALIR guerrillas critical of alleged US-UK support for the Rwandan regime kidnapped and
killed eight foreign tourists, including two US citizens, in a game park on the
Congo-Uganda border. In the current Congolese war, the ALIR is allied with Kinshasa
against the Rwandan invaders. The Government of Rwanda recently transferred to US
custody three former ALIR insurgents who are suspects in the 1999 Bwindi Park murder
case.

Strength
Several thousand ALIR regular forces operate alongside the Congolese army on the front
lines of the Congo civil war, while a like number of ALIR guerrillas operate in eastern
Congo closer to the Rwandan border.
Location/Area of Operation
Mostly Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda, but some operate in Burundi.

External Support
The Democratic Republic of the Congo has provided ALIR forces in Congo with training,
arms, and supplies.

mkuu umekosea anayetakiwa kwenda the hague ni pk siyo jk soma hiyo thread nyingine hapo!!!!