Reason Why France, Tanzania, SA are fighting M23...

[Bukyanagandi]

No sir, just another fabrications. Hawa wanoandika kutoka Congo ni sawa na akina Murutongore wanaoandika kutoka Kigali to save the master and monster KagameJe, Darfur tuna vikosi kwa sababu zipiJe, Lebanon tuna vikosi kwa sababu zipiJe, mgogoro wa Madagascar unahutusu kwa interest zipiJe, Tulipokwenda Liberia kulikuwa na interest ganiJe, tuliposaidia FRELIMO kulikuwa na interest ganiJe, tuliposaidia Angola kulikuwa na interest ganiHivi watu milioni 3 waliouawa na Kagame na M23 ni Tanzania au UN inayolaani.Hizi ni kampeni za kumsafisha muuaji Kagame, lakini ajue siku zake sasa zinakaribia. Congressional team ipo hapo ikirudi Washngton utasikia habari ya CIA. Hollande naye hachezi mbali kama alivyo Cameron. Kagame is on the hook !

Mkuu Nguruvi3, ukisikiza propaganda za jamaa hawa unaweza kushikwa na butwaa! Madai yao mengi ni ya kitoto sana - wana kawaida ya kuangalia nani kandika article anazungumza kitu gani kuhusu Uongozi wa Kigali, wakisha tafakali hilo ndio wanamjengea hoja na madai ya kila sampuli, wakiwa na nia ya kumchafua! Watamsema lolote la uzushi tu ili watimize malengo yao. Ni mabingwa sana wa kubuni stori, sasa hivi wanashirikiana na achor (Bi B.Marshalls wa television ya Wachina nchini Kenya (CCTV) katika kuedeleza propaganda zaoya kufagilia M23 na Uongozi wa Rwanda, Uongozi wa Kigali unatumia hela nyingi sana katika media (e.g Wakina Mwendwa) na ma lobbists wengi tu kuihadaa dunia, don't you underrate them - wako well connected and properly trained katika fani hii. Uzuri ni kwamba Dunia imekwisha shitukia mbinu zao hizo, hakuna anaye wachukulia seriously any more.

 

[Kubwajinga]

Kidogo niseme kua "UONGO MTUPU" lakini hii hapa :

imenivuta shati..... kuna kaukweli ndani yake aisee!

KN,
Ukimchukia mtu utaamini uongo wowote unaoelekezwa kwake hata kama wewe binafsi una shaka nao.

1. Kabila akitaka ku-invest pesa yake, Tanzania patakuwa ni mahali pa mwisho kuielekezea. Kwa nini asifiche hela yake Swiss, Cayman Island etc., badala yake ailete TZ?
2. Hivi kweli Kikwete ni mjinga kiasi hiki kupeleka majeshi yetu DRC kwa ajili ya vijimali vya Kabila kuangaliziwa na mwanae?
3. Zaidi ya hayo, kama imefikia hapo, ina maana Kikwete hakupata cha kuiba TZ mpaka atumie majeshi yetu kusaidia wizi wa Kabila ili ndio na yeye apate % yake?

Tuwe makini ndugu zanguni wa Tanzania maana yanayoandikwa hivi sasa kutokea Rwanda makachero wengine wa Kagame ni uchochezi wa wazi. Ni vema tukafahamu kuwa TZ tuko vitani na Rwanda (Kagame) angalau kwenye diplomasia.

 

[eltontz]

No sir, just another fabrications. Hawa wanoandika kutoka Congo ni sawa na akina Murutongore wanaoandika kutoka Kigali to save the master and monster Kagame

Je, Darfur tuna vikosi kwa sababu zipi
Je, Lebanon tuna vikosi kwa sababu zipi
Je, mgogoro wa Madagascar unahutusu kwa interest zipi
Je, Tulipokwenda Liberia kulikuwa na interest gani
Je, tuliposaidia FRELIMO kulikuwa na interest gani
Je, tuliposaidia Angola kulikuwa na interest gani

Hivi watu milioni 3 waliouawa na Kagame na M23 ni Tanzania au UN inayolaani.

Hizi ni kampeni za kumsafisha muuaji Kagame, lakini ajue siku zake sasa zinakaribia.
Congressional team ipo hapo ikirudi Washngton utasikia habari ya CIA. Hollande naye hachezi mbali kama alivyo Cameron.

Kagame is on the hook !

Interesting. Pia umesahau tulipoenda COMORO tulikuwa na interest gani?

 

[Chakaza]

Mkuu unasema hii imekuvuta shati? Hii..."Tanzania has deployed troops in the UN Brigade because of Kikwete's support for Kayumba Nyamwasa and group and to save Joseph kabila who has invested a lot in Tanzania, its believed that all kabila's investements in Nyerere's country are managed by Kikwete's son."

Na mimi hii imenivuta: Kagame atoke madarakani. Anaharibu sura ya EAC.

Hata mie imenivuta shati. Nionavyo mie majeshi yetu sio kosa kwenda DRC kufanya kazi wafanyayo. Na uwepo wa Kagame Rwanda ni majanga kwa ukanda huu wa maziwa makuu. Lakini hapa kuna habari ndani ya habari.
jee kuna ukweli kuwa Investments za Joseph Kabila zinasimamiwa na mtoto wa JK? Mtoto huyo ni nani? Au ni Ritz ambaye amekuwa na kashfa nyingi kuwa na ukwasi mkubwa ambao haujulikani kaupataje?
Kama ni kweli,kwa nini Kabila awekeze kwetu kwa usiri namna hiyo? Kupata majibu ya maswali haya kutamweka huru kijana Ritz na kashfa mbalimbali ambazo zilifikia kumuhusisha baba yake na ukwasi alionao. Waliweke wazi jambo hili ili watu waache kumuhusisha kiongozi wetu mkuu na mambo yasiyo ya kweli.

 

[Congo]

Much as sitaki kumtetea Lowasa mimi nina wasiwasi mkubwa sana n Mwakyembe. He has never beeen the jembe people talk of because of the following reasons. 1. Baada y kutumia fedha nyingi za walipa kodi alificha sehemu ya ripoti ya richmond kwa hoja dhaifu. 2. Ilipodhaniwa amepewa polonium 3 akiwa Apollo alisema angekuja kusema kila kitu lakini aliporudi akasema anamwachia Mungu. 3. Akiwa mwanachama hai na naibu waziri alianzisha CCJ akishirikiana na Sitta na Nape. 4. Leo hii anafanya kazi za wizara tatu yaani ya Nchimbi, Magufuli na ya kwake huku wafanyakazi wa wizara yake wakitakiwa kufanya kazi bila malipo. Huyu anatafuta urais kwa nguvu. Lowasa na Mwakyembe are all bad apples. However, I would go for the lesser if I were to make a choice between the two and that would be Edtwalib.

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Kwanza hizo chuki binafsi kwa watu hao. Pili suala lako hili limeingiaje kwenye mada hii. Ulikuwa umewlala usingizi unamuota Mwakyembe na Lowasa, ulipoamka hukuangalia pa kuandikia. Pole mwathirika wa Mwakyembe na Lowasa.

 

[kiwososa]

French, SA and Tanzania troops in Congo are just spoiling Kagame`s Bread that's why he must be furious. by the way Kagame has taken enough from Congo so its right time to kick him out.

 

[Ruzibiza]

INTERESTING! You might be right.Kagame ni mjanja sana simpendi kwasababu ameanza kutuvuruga EAST AFRICANS kwasababu za kijingakijinga tu.

zipi hizo kaka fungukaaaaa.....

 

[Njalamatata]

Much as sitaki kumtetea Lowasa mimi nina wasiwasi mkubwa sana n Mwakyembe. He has never beeen the jembe people talk of because of the following reasons. 1. Baada y kutumia fedha nyingi za walipa kodi alificha sehemu ya ripoti ya richmond kwa hoja dhaifu. 2. Ilipodhaniwa amepewa polonium 3 akiwa Apollo alisema angekuja kusema kila kitu lakini aliporudi akasema anamwachia Mungu. 3. Akiwa mwanachama hai na naibu waziri alianzisha CCJ akishirikiana na Sitta na Nape. 4. Leo hii anafanya kazi za wizara tatu yaani ya Nchimbi, Magufuli na ya kwake huku wafanyakazi wa wizara yake wakitakiwa kufanya kazi bila malipo. Huyu anatafuta urais kwa nguvu. Lowasa na Mwakyembe are all bad apples. However, I would go for the lesser if I were to make a choice between the two and that would be Edtwalib.

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Duh! Mulugo umetuletea balaa nchi hii!

 

[Highlander]

Hata mie imenivuta shati. Nionavyo mie majeshi yetu sio kosa kwenda DRC kufanya kazi wafanyayo. Na uwepo wa Kagame Rwanda ni majanga kwa ukanda huu wa maziwa makuu. Lakini hapa kuna habari ndani ya habari.
jee kuna ukweli kuwa Investments za Joseph Kabila zinasimamiwa na mtoto wa JK? Mtoto huyo ni nani? Au ni Ritz ambaye amekuwa na kashfa nyingi kuwa na ukwasi mkubwa ambao haujulikani kaupataje?
Kama ni kweli,kwa nini Kabila awekeze kwetu kwa usiri namna hiyo? Kupata majibu ya maswali haya kutamweka huru kijana Ritz na kashfa mbalimbali ambazo zilifikia kumuhusisha baba yake na ukwasi alionao. Waliweke wazi jambo hili ili watu waache kumuhusisha kiongozi wetu mkuu na mambo yasiyo ya kweli.

Mkuu Chakaza, pengine kuna habari ndani ya habari kama unavosema wewe. Lakini mimi naona habari nyingine muhimu nje ha babari hii. Hebu lione hivi, hata kama ni kwa ajili ya kuboresha mjadala tu:

1. Aliyeituma Tanzania pale DRC ni UN? Si Kabila?

2. UN wanaweza kuwa na Interest zozote za kibiashara za Kabila na mtoto wa Kikwete?

3. Ingawa kwa upande mwingine kama Kabila ana vitega uchumi Tanzania, the same way Bakili Muluzi anavyo hapa, na pengine hata Uhuru Kenyatta naye anavyo hapa. Je huwezi kuona kuwa hii ni dalili nzuri kwamba Tanzania is a good investment destination?

Kwa lugha nyingine kama kweli Kabila ana vitega uchumi hapa kwetu basi hiyo wala si skendo. Tunajua aliyeituma TZ Congo ni UN, siyo Kabila. Hilo la kuifanya deployment kuwa skendo basi ni Skendo ya UN. Au? Manake tupo pale kufanya kazi ya UN. Au?

Hii stori inatafuta kuhamisha mjadala. Badala ya kujadili Mapatano pale Rwanda, tuanze kujadili skendo ambayo haipo

 

[Highlander]

zipi hizo kaka fungukaaaaa.....

kwamba hataki kufanya mazungumzo ya kupatana na adui zake. huu ni ujinga

 

[dukebrain]

Kagame anatapatapa

Is FDLR-FOCA a Terrorist Organization? That is not question.
Rwandan argues that FDLR is a terrorist group, classified as such by the United Nations (UN) Security Council and Western governments. This is partly true. The UN Security Council never classified FDLR as a terrorist group. However, the UN Security Council did take sanctions against most of the top FDLR political and military leaders since 2009 and recently against FDLR-FOCA as a group.
Western governments took in the past a step further. On April 27, 2005, the U.S. State Department identified 40 Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTO) in its annual terrorism report. Among groups identified were the Democratic Liberation Forces of Rwanda (FDLR) and the Ugandan Lord's Resistence Army (LRA)(see here our article USA: Rwandan Rebel Group designated Terrorist by State Department of May 12, 2005).
Since then, the United States has removed FDLR from the list of Foreign Terrorist organizations (FTO) (see US State Department FTO List here). However the United States Government has a special treatment of the FDLR:
First, FDLR was maintainedon Department of Treasury Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons List under: "DEMOCRATIC FORCES FOR THE LIBERATION OF RWANDA (a.k.a. COMBATANT FORCE FOR THE LIBERATION OF RWANDA; a.k.a. FDLR; a.k.a. FORCE COMBATTANTE ABACUNGUZI; a.k.a. FORCES DEMOCRATIQUES DE LIBERATION DU RWANDA; a.k.a. "FOCA"), North and South Kivu, Congo, Democratic Republic of the [DRCONGO] (see here).
Second, the list of Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons also include most of the top FDLR political and military leaders: Ignace Murwanashyaka, Straton Musoni, Callixte Mbarushimana, General Gaston Iyamuremye, General Leodomir Mudacumura (a.k.a. MUPENZI, Bernard; a.k.a. MUPENZI, General Pierre Bernard; a.k.a. "COMMANDANT PHARAON"; a.k.a. "MUKANDA"; a.k.a. "RADJA"), Colonel Fred IRAKEZA (a.k.a. NSANZUBUKIRE, Felicien), General Pacifique NTAWUNGUKA (a.k.a. NTAWUNGULA, Pacifique; a.k.a. "COLONEL OMEGA"; a.k.a. "NZERI"), General Stanislas NZEYIMANA (a.k.a. BIGARUKA IZABAYO, Deogratias; a.k.a. IZABAYO DEO; a.k.a. "BIGARUKA"; a.k.a. "BIGARURA"), Colonel Leopold MUJYAMBERE (a.k.a. IBRAHIM, Frere Petrus; a.k.a. "ACHILLE"; a.k.a. "MUSENYERI") .
Besides, FDLR and all top military and political leaders are on the United Nations Security Council sanctions list.
Finally, two recent developments have highlighted the approach of the West towards FDLR-FOCA:

• In April 2013, the US government offered US$5 million for information leading to the arrest, transfer and conviction of Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) supreme commander, General Sylvestre Mudacumura.
• In June 2013, the German Government arrested three FDLR-FOCA sympathizers, known as Bernard T. and Jean Felicien B. and Jean Bosco U.

Hence, to come back to our initial question.
Was FDLR ever a Designated Terrorist Organization by the US Government? Yes.
Is It Now? No.
But its top political and military leaders face several political, diplomatic and security hurdles and most are under sanctions in several countries and at the United Nations.
©2013 AfroAmerica Network. All Rights Reserved.
Tagged as: FDLR, FDLR-FOCA, General James Kabarebe, General Mudacumura, General Paul Kagame, Jakaya Kikwete, Louise Mushikiwabo, Pierre Habumuremyi

 

[Nyakageni]

KN,
Ukimchukia mtu utaamini uongo wowote unaoelekezwa kwake hata kama wewe binafsi una shaka nao.

1. Kabila akitaka ku-invest pesa yake, Tanzania patakuwa ni mahali pa mwisho kuielekezea. Kwa nini asifiche hela yake Swiss, Cayman Island etc., badala yake ailete TZ?
2. Hivi kweli Kikwete ni mjinga kiasi hiki kupeleka majeshi yetu DRC kwa ajili ya vijimali vya Kabila kuangaliziwa na mwanae?
3. Zaidi ya hayo, kama imefikia hapo, ina maana Kikwete hakupata cha kuiba TZ mpaka atumie majeshi yetu kusaidia wizi wa Kabila ili ndio na yeye apate % yake?

Tuwe makini ndugu zanguni wa Tanzania maana yanayoandikwa hivi sasa kutokea Rwanda makachero wengine wa Kagame ni uchochezi wa wazi. Ni vema tukafahamu kuwa TZ tuko vitani na Rwanda (Kagame) angalau kwenye diplomasia.

time will tell. To be sincere, simwamini Kikwete na CCM yao! They can do anything

 

[Nyakageni]

Swali lisilojibika, why M23 only? Mbona makundi ya waasi ni mengi?

 

[Rare]

Kidogo niseme kua "UONGO MTUPU" lakini hii hapa :

imenivuta shati..... kuna kaukweli ndani yake aisee!

I won't be surprised by Kabila having clandestine investments in Tanzania,as most of his frequent trips in Bongo are never made public. Kwa nini? Lakini sikubaliani na mauaji yanayoendelea katika ukanda wetu eti kugombea nchi ambayo tutaicha, mateso wanayopata wanawake na wanaume wasiohitaji vita, mbaya sana watoto wadogo wanateseka bila sababu ya msingi, inatisha sana.

 

[masopakyindi]

Incredible! it seems the story has a certain truth in it.

Mkuu you seem to be an easy prey!!
Too easy to hook.

Unfortunately the have not told you the whole story.
-M23 is a Tutsi tribal outfit, the same tribe as Kagme

-Tutsi Hima empire is their goal,, and in Goma M23 is working on it

-Kagame is the only president stupid enough to insult a fellow sitting president in EA publicly, and yet expect to" talk it over" in EA sittings. This not only stupid but a sign of unchecked arrogance

-they have not told you that Kagame/M23 have also maimed and killed millions in and around Goma, in tandem with looting natural resources

The have also not told you tha presently Kagame is living a nightmare that he designed for himself, arrogance will not permit him to accept guilt and/or liability political or otherwise-hence these equaly stupid stories!

Mkuu stay put for more stories.

 

[FLASH HIDER]

Mwandishi hana hoja. Ukweli ni huu

a.

• Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - CONGO DRC News

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The UN ”peacekeeping mission” is a negative force in Kivu not keeping peace but escalating war and becoming entangled with the most negative of all negative forces in the Great Lakes region; the FDLR. The UN Brigade fighting on the same side with FDLR is both a tragic and absurd development but not surprising. The French who are in charge of peacekeeping opertions at the UN are using their position to influence decisions taken by the UN in Kivu.

The French have unfinished business in the Great Lakes particularly with Kagame and Rwanda. The RPF kicked them out of Rwanda in 1994. They are now back in Kivu through the ”peacekeeping” arm of the UN to continue lending support to their interahamwe friends and to settle scores with Kagame. The French are well aware that an organised and efficient group like M23 taking full control of the East would spell the end of French influence in the Great Lakes region.

Therefore it follows that out of over more than 20 armed groups in East DRC, M23 is enemy number one that must be eliminated. Forget about ADF that sent over 60,000 Congolese fleeing into Uganda recently after capturing Congolese towns. ADF is not the concern of the UN Brigade. All focus is on M23. Western NGOs, ”human rights” groups in Kivu and sections of Western media representing Western commercial interests in Kivu are well aware that an M23 controlled East DRC would spell doom for foreign commercial interests that have struck lucrative mineral resource deals with Kabila, which deals are of no benefit at all to the Congolese people of the East.

So it follows that there is a furious media smear campaign directed against M23 orchestrated by these groups. The South African ruling elites have deployed South African troops in the UN Brigade to protect their personal commercial investments in Kivu. Tanzania has deployed troops in the UN Brigade because of Kikwete’s support for Kayumba Nyamwasa and group and to save Joseph kabila who has invested a lot in Tanzania, its believed that all kabila’s investements in Nyerere’s country are managed by Kikwete’s son. No single foreign group is in Kivu for the purpose of protecting civilians or restoring peace. Each group is present in Kivu with a hidden agenda.

 

[Fredrick Sanga]

Tutasikia mengi, swala ni kuangalia pumba, kuacha na kuchukua mchele.

 

[FLASH HIDER]

Mwandishi hana data. Ukweli ni huu:

a. Katika nchi zenye askari wengi DRC (Contigents), India inaongoza kisha Pakistan mwisho ni Bangradeshi. Hao wana interest gani?

b. France haina contigents zaidi ya staff officers tu hapa DRC

c. Hajui kwanini M-23 imepewa umuhimu wa kwanza (asome historia ya FIB Force Intervention Brigade)

d. ADF haijaachwa lla ni matter ya priority.



My take nikuwa akina Kagame wapo wengi sana wanaotaka tutawaliwe na WATUSI

• Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - CONGO DRC News

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The UN "peacekeeping mission" is a negative force in Kivu not keeping peace but escalating war and becoming entangled with the most negative of all negative forces in the Great Lakes region; the FDLR. The UN Brigade fighting on the same side with FDLR is both a tragic and absurd development but not surprising. The French who are in charge of peacekeeping opertions at the UN are using their position to influence decisions taken by the UN in Kivu.

The French have unfinished business in the Great Lakes particularly with Kagame and Rwanda. The RPF kicked them out of Rwanda in 1994. They are now back in Kivu through the "peacekeeping" arm of the UN to continue lending support to their interahamwe friends and to settle scores with Kagame. The French are well aware that an organised and efficient group like M23 taking full control of the East would spell the end of French influence in the Great Lakes region.

Therefore it follows that out of over more than 20 armed groups in East DRC, M23 is enemy number one that must be eliminated. Forget about ADF that sent over 60,000 Congolese fleeing into Uganda recently after capturing Congolese towns. ADF is not the concern of the UN Brigade. All focus is on M23. Western NGOs, "human rights" groups in Kivu and sections of Western media representing Western commercial interests in Kivu are well aware that an M23 controlled East DRC would spell doom for foreign commercial interests that have struck lucrative mineral resource deals with Kabila, which deals are of no benefit at all to the Congolese people of the East.

So it follows that there is a furious media smear campaign directed against M23 orchestrated by these groups. The South African ruling elites have deployed South African troops in the UN Brigade to protect their personal commercial investments in Kivu. Tanzania has deployed troops in the UN Brigade because of Kikwete's support for Kayumba Nyamwasa and group and to save Joseph kabila who has invested a lot in Tanzania, its believed that all kabila's investements in Nyerere's country are managed by Kikwete's son. No single foreign group is in Kivu for the purpose of protecting civilians or restoring peace. Each group is present in Kivu with a hidden agenda.

 

[Getstart]

• Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - CONGO DRC News

​

The UN "peacekeeping mission" is a negative force in Kivu not keeping peace but escalating war and becoming entangled with the most negative of all negative forces in the Great Lakes region; the FDLR. The UN Brigade fighting on the same side with FDLR is both a tragic and absurd development but not surprising. The French who are in charge of peacekeeping opertions at the UN are using their position to influence decisions taken by the UN in Kivu.

The French have unfinished business in the Great Lakes particularly with Kagame and Rwanda. The RPF kicked them out of Rwanda in 1994. They are now back in Kivu through the "peacekeeping" arm of the UN to continue lending support to their interahamwe friends and to settle scores with Kagame. The French are well aware that an organised and efficient group like M23 taking full control of the East would spell the end of French influence in the Great Lakes region.

Therefore it follows that out of over more than 20 armed groups in East DRC, M23 is enemy number one that must be eliminated. Forget about ADF that sent over 60,000 Congolese fleeing into Uganda recently after capturing Congolese towns. ADF is not the concern of the UN Brigade. All focus is on M23. Western NGOs, "human rights" groups in Kivu and sections of Western media representing Western commercial interests in Kivu are well aware that an M23 controlled East DRC would spell doom for foreign commercial interests that have struck lucrative mineral resource deals with Kabila, which deals are of no benefit at all to the Congolese people of the East.

So it follows that there is a furious media smear campaign directed against M23 orchestrated by these groups. The South African ruling elites have deployed South African troops in the UN Brigade to protect their personal commercial investments in Kivu. Tanzania has deployed troops in the UN Brigade because of Kikwete's support for Kayumba Nyamwasa and group and to save Joseph kabila who has invested a lot in Tanzania, its believed that all kabila's investements in Nyerere's country are managed by Kikwete's son. No single foreign group is in Kivu for the purpose of protecting civilians or restoring peace. Each group is present in Kivu with a hidden agenda.

Indeed M23 is enemy number one, since it is foreign military force used by known foreign country(ies) to symphon Congolese resources.

 

[ChescoMatunda]

Alah kumbe ndo maana ya utajiri wa riz ehh okay,,