Palestine thanks Tanzania for support at UN

[Mundungus Fletcher]

In fact, you also demonstrate a lack of understanding in the relation between Jews and Christians. You are caught up in the romantic story of the bible that god favours a group of people and place them in Israel. What is it for you in Africa then??

Huwa nawashangaa Christians wanao sahau maneno haya.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Israel might be a chosen Nation but we are all Gods beloved Children and made in his image(that includes Palestines).

 

[mafinyofinyo]

Palestine has expressed its gratitude to Tanzania for its principled stand in voting in its favour to achieve non-member observer status in the United Nations.

Ambassador of the State of Palestine to Tanzania, Dr Nasri Abu Jaish


Palestinian Ambassador to Tanzania, Dr Nasri Abujaish told reporters in Dar es Salaam yesterday that it was a remarkable achievement to all peace and freedom loving people all over the world.

“Yesterday (Thursday) November 29, 2012, 138 states voted in favour of Palestine. The vote is a long sought victory for Palestine which has at last been granted its ‘birth certificate’ after 65 years of resistance against Israeli occupation, confiscation, expulsion and genocide,” he said.

According to news agencies, the resolution upgrading the Palestinian status to a non-member observer state at the United Nations was approved by more than two-thirds of the 193-member world body – a vote of 138 for, nine against and 41 abstentions.

Dr Abujaish said that Tanzania’s voting had once again demonstrated the historic solidarity between the people of Tanzania and Palestine. He said it was a global victory for human rights, freedom, national self determination, peace and justice.

He said that with the vote, Israeli occupation was effectively defeated and the State of Palestine and the Palestinians had won and that it showed the world had sided with justice and peace and was against occupation.

“We now hope that with the enhancement of the State of Palestine, the UN Security Council will respond to the resolution submitted in 2011 to grant Palestine full membership in the UN and reaffirm its intention to achieve a two-state solution based on the pre-1967 borders,” he said.

The Ambassador explained that with the new status, Palestine State was now ready to resume negotiation with Israel on issues of illegal settlements, Jerusalem, borders, refugees, water and other resources.

He stressed that Palestinians could now gain access to UN agencies and international bodies, particularly the International Criminal Court, which could become a facilitator to task Israel for alleged war crimes or its on-going settlement building on the war-won land.

Thursday’s vote came on the same day, (November 29) in 1947 when the UN General Assembly voted to recognize a state in Palestine, though the jubilant revelers then were the Jews. The Palestinians rejected that partition plan and decades of tension and violence have followed.

Dr Abujaish said he was optimistic that in three months time, Israel would suffer its first case at the International Criminal Court after forensic tests on the late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat pointed an accusing finger at them.

He said that Palestinians were convinced that Israel poisoned Mr Arafat and that they were certain Russia and Switzerland would unearth the truth. Joining the United States and Israel in the ‘no’ vote were Canada, the Czech Republic, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Panama.

Real independence, however, remains an elusive dream until the Palestinians negotiate a peace deal with the Israelis, who warned that the General Assembly action will only delay a lasting solution. Israel still controls the West Bank, East Jerusalem and access to Gaza. It has accused the Palestinians of by-passing negotiations in the campaign to upgrade their UN status.

I belong to Israeli.

 

[Mwana Mtoka Pabaya]

What history you talking about? Did you meant to say palestine not stated in holy books? Did you know that the land of Israel was turned upside down because of their homosexual activities? Btw i see no Tanzania in history!

Hebu rudi kwenye kiswahili labda akili yako itakaa sawa. Sodoma na Gomora ni sehemu ndogo ya ardhi ya Kaanan kwenye uwanda wa chini wa mto Jordan na si kwamba ni Israel nzima.

Ndio Tanzania haikukuwepo, ilikuwepo Tanganyika, Nyitu, Unknown e.t.c lkn occupants wake ndio sisi sisi. Next time sema Holy Bible sio holy books, hicho kitabu kingine sio holy

 

[Mwana Mtoka Pabaya]

Huwa nawashangaa Christians wanao sahau maneno haya.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Israel might be a chosen Nation but we are all Gods beloved Children and made in his image(that includes Palestines).

Mwenyewe umeandika mstari na bado huuelewi. Labda nikuwekee kwa kiswahili uuelewe vyema

Yohana 3:16 'Kwa maana hii Mungu aliupenda ulimwengu, hata akamtoa Mwanawe wa pekee, ili kila amwaminiye asipotee, bali awe na uzima wa milele'

Zingatia bold kwenye comment yako na masasahihisho niliyokuwekea. Si WOTE bali wale wamwaminie. Kama kuna Mpalestina anamwamini, then Yes. Kama anaamini katika kurusha maroketi, then NO. Kama kuna Mtanzania anamwamini, Big Yes, kama anaamini katika kuchoma makanisa, then NO.

Hata Marehemu Mohammed akimkiri Yesu ya kwamba ni bwana na mwokozi basi naye atafanyika kuwa mwana

 

[sixgates]

"Itakae ilaani taifa la Israel na atalaaniwa!"
Katika category ambayo tulimek blunder ilikua kuji di-associate na Israel.. Hata wajerumani wenyewe waliresolve na wale watu. Tanzania kupitia viongozi wetu tumekua genge la wanafiki na wazandiki...mauaji kibao yanatokea nchini hatuchukui hatua ya kukomesha mf Mwangosi kapigwa risasi ushahidi upo wazii sijamsikia rais akizungumzia wala kulaani aina ya mauaji yanayofanywa na jeshi la police, mauaji ya vikongwe, ajali za barabarani, vifo vinavyotokana na huduma mbovu ya afya! Wazungu wanasema always charity biggins at home! Sisemi serikali isilaani mauaji yanayoendelea midle east but serikali yetu inatetea upande mmoja na kila siku wanawatetea wapalestine, that is not right..Palestinian wana wanapokosea,waisrael pia.. Tanzania isifungamane na nchi moja. Ni tabia chafu..nyerere alifanya yake..mazuri na mabaya..tatizo la serikali ya ccm badala ya kuchukua yale mazuri ya nyerere na kuyaendeleza, wao wanachukua yale mabaya ya nyerere na kuyaendeleza mf (kudeclare wazi kua tanzania kutokua mshirika na israel...)

 

[PlanckScale]

You have shown a lack of specific understanding on this palestine issue, you have written in broad context equating unrelated events like apartheid, colonization or slave with Israelis living in the land of Israel. At least you should acknowledge the fact that the land some call it Israel and some call it palestine is a disputed one, two groups of people claim ownership to it. One group (palestinians) is motivated by its religious teaching to seek and destroy the other group (israelis), now the persecuted group has developed means of protecting itself including building a wall fortifying their houses and towns, rocket interceptors (iron dome) etc. Is it bad for a landlord to build a wall around his / her house to stop burglars? why do we see many houses in Dar es salaam and other cities built with security walls surrounding them??

There isn't apartheid neither occupation in Israel but two groups of people who can't live together in a piece of land which is pity because almost in all countries in the world different ethnic groups live together. In UK for example Irish, Scotts and Walsh live happily together, in Belgium there are germans, french and dutch, in Tanzania we have africans, asians, arabs.

If you think Jews and Christians are on one side and muslims, leftists, human right activists, anarchists,secularists, aethists etc on the other side then that makes the israel/palestine issue a faith driven conflict. Muslims and their anti semite supporters some mentioned above play a human right card to justify their faith driven jihad against jews and christians. Their only goal is to "get rid of the JEWS" They are not prepared to study and discuss the history of that disputed land to discern its rightful owner.

You may be right that I was not specific, but lack of understanding on the subject? Brother, I beg to differ.

Let me give you some food for thought:
The setup of the state of Israel as we know it today was a result of the Zionist movement, which gained momentum in 1900 as the European Jews moved to USA and gain social economical influences. Couple that with the guilty filling the Western countries had after the killing of jews in the 2nd world war, the western powers decided to turn a blind eye and allow the Israel state to come into existence against the UN resolution that defined "the early two state" solution. Here is a cut-and-paste of the description of the UN resolution for your reading:

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine. The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181(II).[SUP][1][/SUP]

Part I of the Plan contained provisions dealing with the Termination of the Mandate, Partition and Independence. The Mandate would be terminated as soon as possible and the United Kingdom would withdraw from Palestine no later than the previously announced date of 1 August 1948. The new states would come into existence two months after the withdrawal, but no later than 1 October 1948. The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims of two competing movements: Arab nationalism and Jewish nationalism (Zionism). Part II of the Plan included a detailed description of the proposed boundaries for each state.[SUP][2][/SUP] The Plan also called for Economic Union between the proposed states, and for the protection of religious and minority rights.......




Now Why I parallel Israel to Apartheid:
Instead of me giving you example of institutional discrimination practiced by israel, I am copying the definition of Apartheid for your reference. From the below statement, try to replace the word Afrikaner with "Jews", Blacks with "Palestinians", and South-Africa with "Israel" and judge for yourself if my assertion is wrong or not.

Apartheid (pronounced [ɐpɑːrtɦɛit]; lit. "aparthood") is an Afrikaans[1] word for a system of racial segregation enforced through legislation by the National Party governments, who were the ruling party from 1948 to 1994, of South Africa, under which the rights of the majority black inhabitants of South Africa were curtailed and white supremacy and Afrikaner minority rule was maintained.


Do I think Jews and Christians are on one side and Muslims...? No.
The creation of the state of israel in 1948 lead to the exposure by the Jews on 750,000 Palestinians who ended up living in refugee camps (until today) in the neighboring countries. The ones left in Israel are "living - apart" from israel society. Those Arab Palestinians are Christians and Muslims. The struggle for Palestinian rights was never a religious struggle. If it was, Nyerere and Mandela would have never supported the PLO.

 

[Kibanga Ampiga Mkoloni]

Mwenyewe umeandika mstari na bado huuelewi. Labda nikuwekee kwa kiswahili uuelewe vyema

Yohana 3:16 'Kwa maana hii Mungu aliupenda ulimwengu, hata akamtoa Mwanawe wa pekee, ili kila amwaminiye asipotee, bali awe na uzima wa milele'

Zingatia bold kwenye comment yako na masasahihisho niliyokuwekea. Si WOTE bali wale wamwaminie. Kama kuna Mpalestina anamwamini, then Yes. Kama anaamini katika kurusha maroketi, then NO. Kama kuna Mtanzania anamwamini, Big Yes, kama anaamini katika kuchoma makanisa, then NO.

Hata Marehemu Mohammed akimkiri Yesu ya kwamba ni bwana na mwokozi basi naye atafanyika kuwa mwana

Huko unakoenda sio,
Mimi simoooo!
Ngoja waje wenye mohamed wao!
But in short haiwezekani Nabii Isa aje amuokoe Nabii Mohamedn kwani wa mwisho ni Mohamed.

 

[Kibanga Ampiga Mkoloni]

Hebu rudi kwenye kiswahili labda akili yako itakaa sawa. Sodoma na Gomora ni sehemu ndogo ya ardhi ya Kaanan kwenye uwanda wa chini wa mto Jordan na si kwamba ni Israel nzima.

Ndio Tanzania haikukuwepo, ilikuwepo Tanganyika, Nyitu, Unknown e.t.c lkn occupants wake ndio sisi sisi. Next time sema Holy Bible sio holy books, hicho kitabu kingine sio holy

Never new wa- Israel wanatumia Holy Bible.

 

[PlanckScale]

You have shown a lack of specific understanding on this palestine issue, you have written in broad context equating unrelated events like apartheid, colonization or slave with Israelis living in the land of Israel. At least you should acknowledge the fact that the land some call it Israel and some call it palestine is a disputed one, two groups of people claim ownership to it. One group (palestinians) is motivated by its religious teaching to seek and destroy the other group (israelis), now the persecuted group has developed means of protecting itself including building a wall fortifying their houses and towns, rocket interceptors (iron dome) etc. Is it bad for a landlord to build a wall around his / her house to stop burglars? why do we see many houses in Dar es salaam and other cities built with security walls surrounding them??

There isn't apartheid neither occupation in Israel but two groups of people who can't live together in a piece of land which is pity because almost in all countries in the world different ethnic groups live together. In UK for example Irish, Scotts and Walsh live happily together, in Belgium there are germans, french and dutch, in Tanzania we have africans, asians, arabs.

If you think Jews and Christians are on one side and muslims, leftists, human right activists, anarchists,secularists, aethists etc on the other side then that makes the israel/palestine issue a faith driven conflict. Muslims and their anti semite supporters some mentioned above play a human right card to justify their faith driven jihad against jews and christians. Their only goal is to "get rid of the JEWS" They are not prepared to study and discuss the history of that disputed land to discern its rightful owner.

You may be right that I was not specific, but lack of understanding on the subject? Brother, I beg to differ.

Let me give you some food for thought:
The setup of the state of Israel as we know it today was a result of the Zionist movement, which gained momentum in 1900 as the European Jews moved to USA and gain social economical influences. Couple that with the guilty filling the Western countries had after the killing of jews in the 2nd world war, the western powers decided to turn a blind eye and allow the Israel state to come into existence against the UN resolution that defined "the early two state" solution. Here is a cut-and-paste of the description of the UN resolution for your reading:

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine. The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem. On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted a resolution recommending the adoption and implementation of the Plan as Resolution 181(II).[SUP][1][/SUP]

Part I of the Plan contained provisions dealing with the Termination of the Mandate, Partition and Independence. The Mandate would be terminated as soon as possible and the United Kingdom would withdraw from Palestine no later than the previously announced date of 1 August 1948. The new states would come into existence two months after the withdrawal, but no later than 1 October 1948. The Plan sought to address the conflicting objectives and claims of two competing movements: Arab nationalism and Jewish nationalism (Zionism). Part II of the Plan included a detailed description of the proposed boundaries for each state.[SUP][2][/SUP] The Plan also called for Economic Union between the proposed states, and for the protection of religious and minority rights.......


Now Why I parallel Israel to Apartheid:
Instead of me giving you example of institutional discrimination practiced by israel, I am copying the definition of Apartheid for your reference. From the below statement, try to replace the word Afrikaner with "Jews", Blacks with "Palestinians", and South-Africa with "Israel" and judge for yourself if my assertion is wrong or not.

Apartheid (pronounced [ɐpɑːrtɦɛit]; lit. "aparthood") is an Afrikaans[1] word for a system of racial segregation enforced through legislation by the National Party governments, who were the ruling party from 1948 to 1994, of South Africa, under which the rights of the majority black inhabitants of South Africa were curtailed and white supremacy and Afrikaner minority rule was maintained.


Do I think Jews and Christians are on one side and Muslims...? No.
The creation of the state of israel in 1948 lead to the exposure by the Jews of 750,000 Palestinians who ended up living in refugee camps (until today) in the neighboring countries. The ones left in Israel are "living - apart" from israel society. Those Arab Palestinians are Christians and Muslims. The struggle for Palestinian rights was never a religious struggle. If it was, Nyerere and Mandela would have never supported the PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization).

 

[PlanckScale]

When you write "god" or "mungu" it means the evil gods found in earth (Satan). But when you write " GOD" or "MUNGU" it means our almighty GOD in Heaven. .......but in Jesus name I will support Israel till death.

Don't forget the Jews reported Jesus to the Romans....and you know what happen after that!
Ndugu yangu, I am not a believer. For me the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is a humanitarian issue. One group is imprisoning the other group. You cannot deny that, and if you do there is something wrong with you. Ask yourself how did the Palestinian end up in a refugee camps, in Gaza where they have no freedom of movement? doesn't that even pain you as a human being?

I mean you don't think that the Palestinians are living in a big prison camp?

 

[Mwana Mtoka Pabaya]

Huko unakoenda sio,
Mimi simoooo!
Ngoja waje wenye mohamed wao!
But in short haiwezekani Nabii Isa aje amuokoe Nabii Mohamedn kwani wa mwisho ni Mohamed.

Hayo ya Isa unayajua wewe mimi simjui, nachojua ni kwamba hata Abraham aliyekufa miaka mia kadhaa kabla ya Yesu alilazimika kusubiri toharani mpaka Yesu alete ukombozi.

Mohammad wa mwisho kwenye nini, Uadilifu?

 

[juve2012]

I nw see the role of religion,ts to soften our hearts,why cnt we judge the truth?n let us be free,unyama wote unaofanywa na waisrael lakn stil bcz of religions we argue in their favour why?ths is al bcz of religion,i once asked my self y shud i belive in religions,they correct alot of money bt stil they dnt pay tax,ifound wher the truth lies n iknw em set free,

are u sure what u call truth is the reality?go and do a research on jewish revolts against roman empire.utachoka utakapogundua even the name palestine was given by emperor Hadrian in 135 C.E to depress jewish history in the land after expelled them from the land.actually mateso unayoona wapalestina wanayapata,ni maisha waliyoishi waisrael tangu 70 A.D.na dunia imekaa kimya juu ya hili kwa vile linaigusa ROMAN EMPIRE ambayo ni VATICAN na Mataifa makubwa ulaya.sasa israel inatetea ardhi yake irudi kwa gharama zote,ardhi waliyoporwa na ROMANS!Waarabu walivamia ardhi hiyo baada ya waisrael kufukuzwa.hawa si wafilisti na wala hakuna connection kati ya Palestine na Wafilisti.

 

[juve2012]

Kwa nini tunazungumza uvamizi wa waisrael kwa wapalestina tu?mbona hatujadili uvamizi wa warumi kwa israel uliozaa tatizo hili leo?wayahudi warudishiwe ardhi yao waliyoporwa na warumi,wapate kurudi kwao na kuondokana na mateso wanayopata ugenini kama yale ya Hitler.tukishairudisha israel state yote then tutafute ni lini na wapi ilipokuwa palestina.tuone kama kuna kitu kinaitwa palestina!na Vatican isikae kimya,inahusika sana ugomvi huu.

 

[MaxShimba]

Zanzibar tushamaliza kazi, sasa hivi CCM Zanzibar na CUF wote WAMEAMKA.

Since when walikuwa wamelaa. Hivi CCM ilisha wai lala Zenji? Anyways, I have no time to discuss Bongo politics. It is pathetic. Tatizo ni pale Bongo mnapopigia debe Hamas? That is insane.

 

[MaxShimba]

ww kweli punguani, sasa kwani kisichotajwa kwenye koran ndo kibaya??? Basi Tanzania nayo mbaya maana haikutajwa?? Acha ujinga kuwasapot wapalestina sio dhambi kwani walikuwa wakinyanyaswa na kuliwa so ni hatua nzuri sana kushinda UN, kama ww uwapongezi tulia na roho mbaya yako, tunajua wengne mnapenda yale wanayoyafanya Israel juu ya udhalimu wao

Acha kutoa povu weye. Hujuwi Koran zaidi ya kukaririshwa kwa bakora. Hivi kati ya weye na Allah nani mwenye akili? Allah kesha sema Israel ni Nchi ya Waisraeli, tena ndani ya Korun Tukufu na Mtume Muhammada kakubali. Sasa weye wapi huelewi? Koran imekiri, na Mtume Muhammad kasema ndani ya Koran kuwa Israel ni Nchi ya Waisrael. Cha ajabu, nyie wafuasi wa dini ya Waarabu, mnapigia debe Nchi ambayo Allah haifahamu na hakuitaja kwenye Korun Tukufu. Allahamdulilah, Allah anajuwa yote na yeye ni mweye ufahamu usio na ushindani.

Kuhusu Tanzania, hivi kuna la maana katika hako kanchi kenu? Kanchi kanako nuka rushwa na udini. Kanchi kanako endeshwa kiubabe, wewe unaita nchi? Hivi Bongo nayo ipo katika Nchi? It is waste of my time kuzungumzia hako kanchi kalikojaa Wahuni na viumbe visivyo na adabu.

Mashaallah, Mnyaazi Mungu atakufungua macho na ujue heri.

Watakabahu

 

[MaxShimba]

israelites were expelled from israel by romans after suffering war defeats from romans and assyrians.later,arab settlers came and took advantage of turkish raid in the middle east to occupy the land.now the jews want all their land back and people call them invaders?CRAZY WORLD!

You just consented that Israelites were there and expelled. Now, all invaders like Palestine, Arabs, Hamas et al, must go back where they belong.

 

[MaxShimba]

Huwa nawashangaa Christians wanao sahau maneno haya.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Israel might be a chosen Nation but we are all Gods beloved Children and made in his image(that includes Palestines).

.. and what will you do with the Black Sheep syndrome "Palestinians" who are using minors and women to fight for the cause of Allah? Love them or rebuke the evil? Don't you know that even Allah never mentioned them in the Holy Qu'ran? Don't you know Allah mentioned Israel!! in the Holy Qu'ran. How hard is it for mankind to miss that?

 

[THE GREAT CAMP]

Israel ni living clock yetu waamini kwamba muda wetu wa kukaa hapa unakaribia kufikia mwisho and soon we will be caught to meet our King in the outer space..Wenye dhambi kazaneni kutenda dhambi na wenye kujitakasa jitakaseni sana....Maana Israel maanandiko yanasema itapingwa na dunia nzima lakini yenyewe itakataa ku-bow...Ikifikia hapo mataifa yataamua kuipiga Israel kivita nayo itatekwa mpaka robo tatu yake ndipo wana wa Israel watamkumbuka Mungu wao watamrudia kwakulia na kuomboleza naye Mungu wao atashuka kuja kupigana vita ndipo mifereji ya damu itatoka kutoka Israel na wengi wa walioivamia Israel wataiona hasira ya Mungu.

Natamani watu wajitambue lakini nashindwa. Umenifurahisha sana kwa kutoa mahubiri ya siku za mwisho. Na hapo kwenye red hapo inabidi watu wafunguke akili zao.

 

[THE GREAT CAMP]

you might be among those 9. but if you realy have love and wish peace to your fellow beings without any bias, i hope you would have been supported palestinian

Real you are wright. I am among those 9 who vote NO. Mind you the road to heaven it's too narrow and only few will pass. But the road to "Jehanum" it's to wide and alot of people will go there. So those 190+ to Jehanum and we 9 to heaven. So do you like Jehanum? If NOT come to our side.

 

[Duduwasha]

Palestine go to hell... Kamwe siwezi kuwasupport wafilisti magovi yaliyotajwa kwenye bible.... na kwa ukweli ulipo sawa hawa jamaa wajiitao palestine si wa kweli hata wakati wa yesu hawakuwepo hayo maeneo ni pale waitaly walipoondoka baada ya kuusambalatisha mji wa jerusalem nchi ilikaa yenyewe yenyewe tu wakaja wahamiaji kutoka nchi jirani za waarabu then arafati akaja kuanzisha hii kitu iitwayo palestine ili waarabu wamsupport huyu mlowezi so jews ndio wenye nchi yao na hakuna hiki kitu kiitchwacho palestine before hiyo miaka ya 1947 kweusi... Membe na timu yao nzima ya ccm ndio walaaniwe kwa kuwasapoti wapuuzi arabs na sio sisi wananchi