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John 21:20-22 Peter saw the
disciple following whom Jesus
loved, who had reclined on His
chest during the supper. Peter
ask Jesus: Lord, what about
him? Jesus said: What if I want
him to remain until I come?
What concern is it of yours? You
follow Me. Catholic
There are a few places in the
book of John that mentions the
disciple whom Jesus loved.
Many scholars wont go in
depth on Jesus relationship
with this "affectionate" disciple.
Matthew 19:12 Jesus said:
Some are incapable of
marriage because they are
born so.
Homosexuality comes to mind -
until currently. If alive today,
what do you think Jesus Christ
would say or do about gay
marriage?
Luke 20:46-47 Jesus said: Be on
guard against the scribes
(clergy) in long robes who love
greetings and seats of honor at
banquets. They devour the
houses of widows and as a
pretext, recite lengthy prayers.
They will receive a very severe
condemnation.
Do you think that any faith-
peddling TV evangelists ever
did anything like that?
Often, when people proclaim
something to be the truth , they
are stating only what they are
committed to. Sometimes, their
committed truth is frustrating
as it has nothing to do with any
facts concerning the topic. Their
truth amounts to their
competing for an agenda more
to their liking. Facts, they dont
like, seem unimportant and are
easily dismissed or outright lied
about.
Do you know any believers who
do not want to learn about God
and the Bible - but who are
blind-faith, zealous cheer-
leaders?
When most think of the
Commandments, they think of
The 10 Commandments .
Agreed? However, any Jewish
Rabbi will tell you that there
are 613 commandments in
what Christians refer to as the
Old Testament.
Matthew 19:17-19 Jesus
alluded to keep the
Commandments. One asked:
Which ones? Jesus included: You
shall love your neighbor as
yourself. (Again in Matthew
22:39 & Mark 12:31)
The commandment that Jesus
spoke of is not one of Gods,
most important, finger-written,
10 commandments. Jesus
seems to accept one's loving
himself - which the Biblical God
often condemned a prideful.
Matthew 21:1-7 Jesus sent 2
disciples to get an ass and a
colt. They did and Jesus sat
upon them. Jesus told them: If
anyone should say anything to
you, reply: The Master has need
of them.
First, how could just one Jesus
sit on two animals, an ass and a
colt? My God, that would be a
miracle! Was this procurement
of these 2 animals outright
theft? Dont all the egos of
thieves feel that they have
needs and assume that they
are somehow entitled to the
property of others? Did Jesus
Christ teach - for many who
worshipped Him later - a model
that could and
did generate prison-time?
Matthew 21:22 Jesus said:
Whatever you ask for in prayer
with faith, you will receive.
I Samuel 2:2 God judges deeds.
(Works?)
What? Who? God doesnt judge
faith? And God obviously did not
give Jesus the judgment?
Matthew 21:31 Jesus said: Tax
collectors and prostitutes are
entering Heaven before you.
If prostitutes do get into
Heaven, is it no wonder that
the wise young State of Nevada
has legalized prostitution? That
state loves the tax revenues
that many husbands and
fathers and a few fun-loving
ladies provide it. Are
prostitution and gambling
against federal laws? Yes? No?
How does that work?
Luke 21:33 Jesus said: Heaven
and Earth shall pass away. KJV
II Peter 3:10 &12 The Heaven
shall pass away and dissolve in
flames.
Believers always express their
fear of the end of the world . Did
you ever consider the end of
Heaven , too? What invention
can one come up with to
explain this? Could it be that
The Biblical Heaven is a myth
that is simply hoped for?
Heavens own source states it
exists, but will pass away .
Some pretend that Heaven
exists within numerous
dimensions outside of science,
time and reason. Can we prove
it with evidence? Could eternity
simply be the absence of
conscious time, for without
time how can there be a sense
of conscience, or vice versa?
Revelation 12:7 There was war
in Heaven.
What? Oh my Gawd! Theres
war in Heaven? What other
horrors are there in Heaven?
Pain? Suffering? Why would any
sane, knowledgable human
being want to go to Heaven?
Luke 22:31-33 Jesus told Peter
that He (Jesus) prayed for
(Peters) faith not to fail
Luke 22:57-62 But, after Jesus
trial, Peter did deny knowing
Jesus three (3) times.
Wow! So much for the power of
Jesus prayers.
Looking ahead - Mark 14:66-72
contradicted John 13:38.
Mark 14:66-72 A maid of The
High Priest saw Peter and said:
You were with Jesus... Peter
denied it. And the cock crowed.
She saw Peter again and said
he was "one of them" twice
more. Peter denied it again
twice more for a total of three
times. Peter recalled that Jesus
said to Peter: Before the cock
crows 2 times (twice), you will
deny Me 3 (three) times.
John 13:38 Jesus said to Peter:
The cock will NOT crow before
you deny Me three (3) times.
(Contradiction)
Because the cock DID crow
after the 1st denial in Mark
14:68, these 2 C&V details
cannot be both correct - which
means they DO contradict each
other. Here is solid evidence
that the Bible misquoted Jesus
either in Mark 14:68 or in John
13:38. Ergo, the Holy Bible is
fallible, faulty, contains errors
and cannot be strictly
dependent upon.
Believer: It's a minor and an
insignificant contradiction and
error. It doesn't matter.
GWD: It does matter - if the
Bible's integrity matters. Minor
and insignificant or not, the
Bible, after all these years and
editing, still contains this
contradiction and error.
If God were Jesus, and Jesus
were God, why would God need
to pray? Here is evidence that
even Jesus prayers were not
fulfilled. Are we more special
than Jesus? Based on this
example, what chance do we
have with prayer?
Faith: To act upon hope as if it
were an assumed success,
already accomplished, a done
deal. Faith is the soul of
positive thinking and often
the birth of frustration and
disappointment.
To have faith: To assume that
you have been chosen, favored,
entitled and accomplished.
Belief: Assumed, pretended
knowledge.
Truth: A point of view, based
mostly on feelings, that
presumes to be factual.
Matthew 10:15 Luke & 10:12
Jesus said: It will be more
tolerable for the land of Sodom
on the day of judgment than for
that town.
Does that mean although
Sodom was judged and
destroyed by God, your town
can be in greater peril? Did the
Sodomites have salvation,
according to this verse?
Matthew 24:34 Jesus said: This
generation wont pass away
until all these things take
place.
Do any believers have any
provable evidence that any of
that generation are alive
today?
Matthew 25:41 Jesus said:
Depart from Me, you cursed,
into the everlasting fire
prepared for the Devil and his
Angels.
Did Jesus tell these people that
they were cursed and to go to
Hell?
When we successfully
exchanged false beliefs for
facts, dont we achieved
awareness? Facts without
awareness are useless. Did
Judas have any choice in
becoming a traitor to Jesus? If
God predestines and does it all,
what does any Satan role
consist of? Maybe Satan is just a
brand or label that some
apologists put on anyone who
speaks out against, criticizes or
questions the Biblical God, or
them.
Blasphemy: Some use
blasphemy to brand and label
people as a censoring tool.
Some believers are committed
to things they dont know.
Some cant handle exposed
facts so they tend to blackmail
into censorship non-believers
who question their faith
disciple following whom Jesus
loved, who had reclined on His
chest during the supper. Peter
ask Jesus: Lord, what about
him? Jesus said: What if I want
him to remain until I come?
What concern is it of yours? You
follow Me. Catholic
There are a few places in the
book of John that mentions the
disciple whom Jesus loved.
Many scholars wont go in
depth on Jesus relationship
with this "affectionate" disciple.
Matthew 19:12 Jesus said:
Some are incapable of
marriage because they are
born so.
Homosexuality comes to mind -
until currently. If alive today,
what do you think Jesus Christ
would say or do about gay
marriage?
Luke 20:46-47 Jesus said: Be on
guard against the scribes
(clergy) in long robes who love
greetings and seats of honor at
banquets. They devour the
houses of widows and as a
pretext, recite lengthy prayers.
They will receive a very severe
condemnation.
Do you think that any faith-
peddling TV evangelists ever
did anything like that?
Often, when people proclaim
something to be the truth , they
are stating only what they are
committed to. Sometimes, their
committed truth is frustrating
as it has nothing to do with any
facts concerning the topic. Their
truth amounts to their
competing for an agenda more
to their liking. Facts, they dont
like, seem unimportant and are
easily dismissed or outright lied
about.
Do you know any believers who
do not want to learn about God
and the Bible - but who are
blind-faith, zealous cheer-
leaders?
When most think of the
Commandments, they think of
The 10 Commandments .
Agreed? However, any Jewish
Rabbi will tell you that there
are 613 commandments in
what Christians refer to as the
Old Testament.
Matthew 19:17-19 Jesus
alluded to keep the
Commandments. One asked:
Which ones? Jesus included: You
shall love your neighbor as
yourself. (Again in Matthew
22:39 & Mark 12:31)
The commandment that Jesus
spoke of is not one of Gods,
most important, finger-written,
10 commandments. Jesus
seems to accept one's loving
himself - which the Biblical God
often condemned a prideful.
Matthew 21:1-7 Jesus sent 2
disciples to get an ass and a
colt. They did and Jesus sat
upon them. Jesus told them: If
anyone should say anything to
you, reply: The Master has need
of them.
First, how could just one Jesus
sit on two animals, an ass and a
colt? My God, that would be a
miracle! Was this procurement
of these 2 animals outright
theft? Dont all the egos of
thieves feel that they have
needs and assume that they
are somehow entitled to the
property of others? Did Jesus
Christ teach - for many who
worshipped Him later - a model
that could and
did generate prison-time?
Matthew 21:22 Jesus said:
Whatever you ask for in prayer
with faith, you will receive.
I Samuel 2:2 God judges deeds.
(Works?)
What? Who? God doesnt judge
faith? And God obviously did not
give Jesus the judgment?
Matthew 21:31 Jesus said: Tax
collectors and prostitutes are
entering Heaven before you.
If prostitutes do get into
Heaven, is it no wonder that
the wise young State of Nevada
has legalized prostitution? That
state loves the tax revenues
that many husbands and
fathers and a few fun-loving
ladies provide it. Are
prostitution and gambling
against federal laws? Yes? No?
How does that work?
Luke 21:33 Jesus said: Heaven
and Earth shall pass away. KJV
II Peter 3:10 &12 The Heaven
shall pass away and dissolve in
flames.
Believers always express their
fear of the end of the world . Did
you ever consider the end of
Heaven , too? What invention
can one come up with to
explain this? Could it be that
The Biblical Heaven is a myth
that is simply hoped for?
Heavens own source states it
exists, but will pass away .
Some pretend that Heaven
exists within numerous
dimensions outside of science,
time and reason. Can we prove
it with evidence? Could eternity
simply be the absence of
conscious time, for without
time how can there be a sense
of conscience, or vice versa?
Revelation 12:7 There was war
in Heaven.
What? Oh my Gawd! Theres
war in Heaven? What other
horrors are there in Heaven?
Pain? Suffering? Why would any
sane, knowledgable human
being want to go to Heaven?
Luke 22:31-33 Jesus told Peter
that He (Jesus) prayed for
(Peters) faith not to fail
Luke 22:57-62 But, after Jesus
trial, Peter did deny knowing
Jesus three (3) times.
Wow! So much for the power of
Jesus prayers.
Looking ahead - Mark 14:66-72
contradicted John 13:38.
Mark 14:66-72 A maid of The
High Priest saw Peter and said:
You were with Jesus... Peter
denied it. And the cock crowed.
She saw Peter again and said
he was "one of them" twice
more. Peter denied it again
twice more for a total of three
times. Peter recalled that Jesus
said to Peter: Before the cock
crows 2 times (twice), you will
deny Me 3 (three) times.
John 13:38 Jesus said to Peter:
The cock will NOT crow before
you deny Me three (3) times.
(Contradiction)
Because the cock DID crow
after the 1st denial in Mark
14:68, these 2 C&V details
cannot be both correct - which
means they DO contradict each
other. Here is solid evidence
that the Bible misquoted Jesus
either in Mark 14:68 or in John
13:38. Ergo, the Holy Bible is
fallible, faulty, contains errors
and cannot be strictly
dependent upon.
Believer: It's a minor and an
insignificant contradiction and
error. It doesn't matter.
GWD: It does matter - if the
Bible's integrity matters. Minor
and insignificant or not, the
Bible, after all these years and
editing, still contains this
contradiction and error.
If God were Jesus, and Jesus
were God, why would God need
to pray? Here is evidence that
even Jesus prayers were not
fulfilled. Are we more special
than Jesus? Based on this
example, what chance do we
have with prayer?
Faith: To act upon hope as if it
were an assumed success,
already accomplished, a done
deal. Faith is the soul of
positive thinking and often
the birth of frustration and
disappointment.
To have faith: To assume that
you have been chosen, favored,
entitled and accomplished.
Belief: Assumed, pretended
knowledge.
Truth: A point of view, based
mostly on feelings, that
presumes to be factual.
Matthew 10:15 Luke & 10:12
Jesus said: It will be more
tolerable for the land of Sodom
on the day of judgment than for
that town.
Does that mean although
Sodom was judged and
destroyed by God, your town
can be in greater peril? Did the
Sodomites have salvation,
according to this verse?
Matthew 24:34 Jesus said: This
generation wont pass away
until all these things take
place.
Do any believers have any
provable evidence that any of
that generation are alive
today?
Matthew 25:41 Jesus said:
Depart from Me, you cursed,
into the everlasting fire
prepared for the Devil and his
Angels.
Did Jesus tell these people that
they were cursed and to go to
Hell?
When we successfully
exchanged false beliefs for
facts, dont we achieved
awareness? Facts without
awareness are useless. Did
Judas have any choice in
becoming a traitor to Jesus? If
God predestines and does it all,
what does any Satan role
consist of? Maybe Satan is just a
brand or label that some
apologists put on anyone who
speaks out against, criticizes or
questions the Biblical God, or
them.
Blasphemy: Some use
blasphemy to brand and label
people as a censoring tool.
Some believers are committed
to things they dont know.
Some cant handle exposed
facts so they tend to blackmail
into censorship non-believers
who question their faith
