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[h=1]Van Gaal tells Manchester United to shoot more after derby stalemate[/h]
[h=2]Man Utd manager Louis van Gaal tells his players they are allowed to shoot more after drawing a blank against City at Old Trafford.[/h]
Louis van Gaal criticised Manchester United for not having the 'shoot-on-sight' adventure to beat a defensive City in the derby.
The Reds Dutch boss refused to answer whether he thought his side were the only team attempting to win the 170th Manchester derby.
"These kind of questions, you have to ask not to me. You have to ask my colleague (Manuel Pellegrini)," Van Gaal answered.
"They have the right to play compact and they have done it and they have a fantastic team also on the counter attack but we have prevented that also in a very professional way so I cannot complain.
"But we have to score also the three chances we had from Lingard and Smalling two times."
Chris Smalling headed just wide in the 51st minute and forced Joe Hart into an excellent 88th minute save. Lingard, meanwhile, sub Lingard turned a tough chance onto the bar in the 84th minute.
"Lingard I was surprised he could do that. He did it remarkably well. We know didn't create so many chances because it is difficult how they have played, so organised so on the counter-attack and that is like the game against Moscow, the same, also organised but it says something about the strength of Manchester United these days.
"But I have said at half-time we can also shoot from outside the box, you don't have to combine in 16-metre area. Try your luck that way. That was my remark, you can shoot from outside the box. Now you can shoot, why you don't shoot?"
Was that a lack of confidence or do his players want to create the perfect goal?
"We shall evaluate that with the players. I like the question because I have seen that also but we have to speak about that.
"I am disappointed but I cannot complain. I am very proud of my players. When you can do that after playing in the Champions League, I know they were playing also but we were playing the game in Moscow, and you play 90 minutes, you are concentrated, focused, like we have showed, then I am very proud but we are still two points behind (City went top). It is disappointing."
Van Gaal also believes the Reds should have had the chance to win the derby from the spot after Ander Herrera was felled by Raheem Sterling in the 50th minute.
"I am disappointed and we don't have the luck either because I have seen on the video that Herrera, it was a penalty but the referee was not giving us that benefit and of course it is difficult to see," Van Gaal added.
"I can see it clearly on the video that he doesn't touch the ball but the legs of Herrera. But that luck we don't have this season but I can imagine it is very difficult for the referee so it is not a big issue. It is not the first time I see it that way."
- 18:23, 25 Oct 2015
- Updated 18:24, 25 Oct 2015
- By Stuart Mathieson
[h=2]Man Utd manager Louis van Gaal tells his players they are allowed to shoot more after drawing a blank against City at Old Trafford.[/h]
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Louis van Gaal criticised Manchester United for not having the 'shoot-on-sight' adventure to beat a defensive City in the derby.
The Reds Dutch boss refused to answer whether he thought his side were the only team attempting to win the 170th Manchester derby.
"These kind of questions, you have to ask not to me. You have to ask my colleague (Manuel Pellegrini)," Van Gaal answered.
"They have the right to play compact and they have done it and they have a fantastic team also on the counter attack but we have prevented that also in a very professional way so I cannot complain.
Chris Smalling headed just wide in the 51st minute and forced Joe Hart into an excellent 88th minute save. Lingard, meanwhile, sub Lingard turned a tough chance onto the bar in the 84th minute.
"Lingard I was surprised he could do that. He did it remarkably well. We know didn't create so many chances because it is difficult how they have played, so organised so on the counter-attack and that is like the game against Moscow, the same, also organised but it says something about the strength of Manchester United these days.
Was that a lack of confidence or do his players want to create the perfect goal?
"We shall evaluate that with the players. I like the question because I have seen that also but we have to speak about that.
"I am disappointed but I cannot complain. I am very proud of my players. When you can do that after playing in the Champions League, I know they were playing also but we were playing the game in Moscow, and you play 90 minutes, you are concentrated, focused, like we have showed, then I am very proud but we are still two points behind (City went top). It is disappointing."
"I am disappointed and we don't have the luck either because I have seen on the video that Herrera, it was a penalty but the referee was not giving us that benefit and of course it is difficult to see," Van Gaal added.
"I can see it clearly on the video that he doesn't touch the ball but the legs of Herrera. But that luck we don't have this season but I can imagine it is very difficult for the referee so it is not a big issue. It is not the first time I see it that way."
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[h=1]Van Gaal tells Manchester United to shoot more after derby stalemate[/h]
[h=2]Man Utd manager Louis van Gaal tells his players they are allowed to shoot more after drawing a blank against City at Old Trafford.[/h]
Louis van Gaal criticised Manchester United for not having the 'shoot-on-sight' adventure to beat a defensive City in the derby.
The Reds Dutch boss refused to answer whether he thought his side were the only team attempting to win the 170th Manchester derby.
?These kind of questions, you have to ask not to me. You have to ask my colleague (Manuel Pellegrini),? Van Gaal answered.
?They have the right to play compact and they have done it and they have a fantastic team also on the counter attack but we have prevented that also in a very professional way so I cannot complain.
?But we have to score also the three chances we had from Lingard and Smalling two times.?
Chris Smalling headed just wide in the 51st minute and forced Joe Hart into an excellent 88th minute save. Lingard, meanwhile, sub Lingard turned a tough chance onto the bar in the 84th minute.
?Lingard I was surprised he could do that. He did it remarkably well. We know didn't create so many chances because it is difficult how they have played, so organised so on the counter-attack and that is like the game against Moscow, the same, also organised but it says something about the strength of Manchester United these days.
?But I have said at half-time we can also shoot from outside the box, you don?t have to combine in 16-metre area. Try your luck that way. That was my remark, you can shoot from outside the box. Now you can shoot, why you don?t shoot??
Was that a lack of confidence or do his players want to create the perfect goal?
?We shall evaluate that with the players. I like the question because I have seen that also but we have to speak about that.
?I am disappointed but I cannot complain. I am very proud of my players. When you can do that after playing in the Champions League, I know they were playing also but we were playing the game in Moscow, and you play 90 minutes, you are concentrated, focused, like we have showed, then I am very proud but we are still two points behind (City went top). It is disappointing.?
Van Gaal also believes the Reds should have had the chance to win the derby from the spot after Ander Herrera was felled by Raheem Sterling in the 50th minute.
?I am disappointed and we don?t have the luck either because I have seen on the video that Herrera, it was a penalty but the referee was not giving us that benefit and of course it is difficult to see,? Van Gaal added.
?I can see it clearly on the video that he doesn?t touch the ball but the legs of Herrera. But that luck we don?t have this season but I can imagine it is very difficult for the referee so it is not a big issue. It is not the first time I see it that way.?
- 18:23, 25 Oct 2015
- Updated 18:24, 25 Oct 2015
- By Stuart Mathieson
[h=2]Man Utd manager Louis van Gaal tells his players they are allowed to shoot more after drawing a blank against City at Old Trafford.[/h]
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Louis van Gaal criticised Manchester United for not having the 'shoot-on-sight' adventure to beat a defensive City in the derby.
The Reds Dutch boss refused to answer whether he thought his side were the only team attempting to win the 170th Manchester derby.
?These kind of questions, you have to ask not to me. You have to ask my colleague (Manuel Pellegrini),? Van Gaal answered.
?They have the right to play compact and they have done it and they have a fantastic team also on the counter attack but we have prevented that also in a very professional way so I cannot complain.
Chris Smalling headed just wide in the 51st minute and forced Joe Hart into an excellent 88th minute save. Lingard, meanwhile, sub Lingard turned a tough chance onto the bar in the 84th minute.
?Lingard I was surprised he could do that. He did it remarkably well. We know didn't create so many chances because it is difficult how they have played, so organised so on the counter-attack and that is like the game against Moscow, the same, also organised but it says something about the strength of Manchester United these days.
Was that a lack of confidence or do his players want to create the perfect goal?
?We shall evaluate that with the players. I like the question because I have seen that also but we have to speak about that.
?I am disappointed but I cannot complain. I am very proud of my players. When you can do that after playing in the Champions League, I know they were playing also but we were playing the game in Moscow, and you play 90 minutes, you are concentrated, focused, like we have showed, then I am very proud but we are still two points behind (City went top). It is disappointing.?
?I am disappointed and we don?t have the luck either because I have seen on the video that Herrera, it was a penalty but the referee was not giving us that benefit and of course it is difficult to see,? Van Gaal added.
?I can see it clearly on the video that he doesn?t touch the ball but the legs of Herrera. But that luck we don?t have this season but I can imagine it is very difficult for the referee so it is not a big issue. It is not the first time I see it that way.?
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Nafikiri umefikia wakati LvG awe ruthless kwa Rooney kama alivyomfanya Depay....Rooney apigwe benchi kwanza...ili dogo Martial akipige kati....leo alikuwa anakabwa na watu watatu...akiwatoka wawili (Sagna na Fernando), anakutana na Kompany....sasa anakuwa hana impact sana...angekuwa anatokea kati, kama centre forward, ingekuwa rahisi, kwani angekuwa sana sana anakutana na watu wawili tu...
Ila nimefurahishwa sana na Rojo na Smalling kwenye backline...halafu na combo la Bastian na Morgan pale kati jinsi walivyoweza kuzuia prowess ya Shitty's midfield....katika games zote Shitty walizotufunga hivi karibuni, midfield yao ndiyo iliyowapa ushindi...ila sasa wasahau...
Herrera anazidi kudhiirisha kwanini anapaswa kuwa kwenye starting eleven kwenye kila game ya muhimu....
Dah, ile pasi ya Martial kwa Jesse, haki ya mama, ilistahili kumaliziwa na goli....
Anyway, tukutane J5 kwenye kombe la ligi...
#GGMU
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[h=1]Manchester United: Wayne Rooney derby statistics point to another difficult day for Reds captain[/h]
[h=2]Man Utd manager Louis van Gaal didn't want to talk about his captain after the game but the stats were damming.[/h]
Louis van Gaal said after Manchester United's goalless draw with Manchester City that he is 'sick' of talking about Wayne Rooney's form.
But, judging by Opta's statistics, the derby at Old Trafford was another difficult day for the United captain.
Rooney, who turned 30 on Saturday, had a pass completion rate of 54.8 per cent during the 90 minutes. The next lowest was Matteo Darmian, who only played for the final 10 minutes, with 62.5 per cent.
Rooney had one touch in City's penalty area that didn't come until the 70th minute.
Rooney, playing as the centre forward with Anthony Martial again on the left, only managed one shot during the game and none on target.
He was dispossessed six times, four more times than Martial (2) and Juan Mata (2) and he wasn't credited with creating a chance or making a key pass. The stats also showed he didn't have a successful dribble while Martial had seven.
- 17:28, 25 Oct 2015
- Updated 17:52, 25 Oct 2015
- By Rob Dawson
[h=2]Man Utd manager Louis van Gaal didn't want to talk about his captain after the game but the stats were damming.[/h]
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Louis van Gaal said after Manchester United's goalless draw with Manchester City that he is 'sick' of talking about Wayne Rooney's form.
But, judging by Opta's statistics, the derby at Old Trafford was another difficult day for the United captain.
Rooney, who turned 30 on Saturday, had a pass completion rate of 54.8 per cent during the 90 minutes. The next lowest was Matteo Darmian, who only played for the final 10 minutes, with 62.5 per cent.
Rooney had one touch in City's penalty area that didn't come until the 70th minute.
He was dispossessed six times, four more times than Martial (2) and Juan Mata (2) and he wasn't credited with creating a chance or making a key pass. The stats also showed he didn't have a successful dribble while Martial had seven.
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[h=1]Manchester United 0-0 Manchester City: 30-second Reds verdict[/h]
[h=2]Jesse Lingard came close to a winner on an otherwise stale afternoon of football from Man Utd in the Manchester derby.[/h]
Rooney made it easy for Kompany [h=3]Analysis[/h] Louis van Gaal might wish he had two Anthony Martials. The striker drew three fouls on the left flank in the first-half - ensuring two City players were booked - but United lacked his movement and pace up front.
Wayne Rooney's tussles with Vincent Kompany have invariably been one-sided and that was the case again. Kompany was too muscular for the United captain, whose frustration was patent when he began to try too hard, overhitting passes and compromising the slither of momentum United managed to build during a scrappy first 45.
Van Gaal, though, did not switch Martial to the No.9 role he has excelled again. This was another game in which Rooney tested Van Gaal's patience and the Dutchman once more stood by his undroppable forward.
Morgan Schneiderlin expertly patrolled the midfield, shielding Chris Smalling and Phil Jones, yet more than once United's players were demanding movement from their teammates. The forwards were too rigid and they needed their No.9 in the No.9 role.
[h=3]Key moment[/h] Manuel Pellegrini's decision to play Vincent Kompany. He could have defended against Rooney in his slippers.
[h=3]Good day[/h] Schneiderlin was an excellent conduit between defence and the attack. City have wreaked havoc at United in recent years due to the Reds' paucity of midfield options but Schneiderlin proved just why he should be indispensable.
Schneiderlin was excellent [h=3]Bad day[/h] Rooney. His performance against Kompany was similar to their duel in February 2011, only Rooney masked his bullying with one of the great Old Trafford goals that day.
There is usually an annual flash of genius from Rooney that reminds the naysayers what a supremely gifted footballer he is. Last year, it was that audacious volley at West Ham but this year United supporters are still waiting.
Rooney was poor again Rooney's first touch was, again, shambolic and, having shirked challenges in Moscow, he appeared to be daunted by the presence of Kompany and Otamendi.
Thrice United supporters audibly aired their exasperation with Rooney and it became so bad he was applauded for winning a header - that went out of play.
[h=3]Bigger picture[/h] This was a missed opportunity for United. City were deprived of two of their most productive players and Manuel Pellegrini's team appeared to be content with a draw.
Referee Mark Clattenburg should have awarded Ander Herrera a penalty and there was a late rally, spearheaded by the raw Jesse Lingard, that stirred the supporters.
Herrera should have had a penalty The onus was on United to set the tempo and they were stale and static, with the exception of a handful of spirited moments. Martial's positioning was inconsequential against a distracted Everton side on a day, despite his goal on Merseyside, Rooney was the weakest performer.
United have a long-term No.9 and Van Gaal needs to play him there.
- 15:58, 25 Oct 2015
- Updated 16:19, 25 Oct 2015
- By Samuel Luckhurst
[h=2]Jesse Lingard came close to a winner on an otherwise stale afternoon of football from Man Utd in the Manchester derby.[/h]
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Rooney made it easy for Kompany [h=3]Analysis[/h] Louis van Gaal might wish he had two Anthony Martials. The striker drew three fouls on the left flank in the first-half - ensuring two City players were booked - but United lacked his movement and pace up front.
Wayne Rooney's tussles with Vincent Kompany have invariably been one-sided and that was the case again. Kompany was too muscular for the United captain, whose frustration was patent when he began to try too hard, overhitting passes and compromising the slither of momentum United managed to build during a scrappy first 45.
Van Gaal, though, did not switch Martial to the No.9 role he has excelled again. This was another game in which Rooney tested Van Gaal's patience and the Dutchman once more stood by his undroppable forward.
Morgan Schneiderlin expertly patrolled the midfield, shielding Chris Smalling and Phil Jones, yet more than once United's players were demanding movement from their teammates. The forwards were too rigid and they needed their No.9 in the No.9 role.
[h=3]Key moment[/h] Manuel Pellegrini's decision to play Vincent Kompany. He could have defended against Rooney in his slippers.
[h=3]Good day[/h] Schneiderlin was an excellent conduit between defence and the attack. City have wreaked havoc at United in recent years due to the Reds' paucity of midfield options but Schneiderlin proved just why he should be indispensable.
There is usually an annual flash of genius from Rooney that reminds the naysayers what a supremely gifted footballer he is. Last year, it was that audacious volley at West Ham but this year United supporters are still waiting.
Thrice United supporters audibly aired their exasperation with Rooney and it became so bad he was applauded for winning a header - that went out of play.
[h=3]Bigger picture[/h] This was a missed opportunity for United. City were deprived of two of their most productive players and Manuel Pellegrini's team appeared to be content with a draw.
Referee Mark Clattenburg should have awarded Ander Herrera a penalty and there was a late rally, spearheaded by the raw Jesse Lingard, that stirred the supporters.
United have a long-term No.9 and Van Gaal needs to play him there.
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[h=1]Manchester United fail to have shot in first half of Premier League game for first time against Man City[/h]
[h=2]Man Utd didn't have a shot in the first 45 minutes of the Manchester derby and neither time managed a shot on target.[/h]
Manchester United failed to have a shot on or off target in the first half against Manchester City - the first time it's happened to the Reds since Opta started collecting statistics in 2003.
And neither United or City could muster a shot on target in the first half of the derby - only the second time that's happened in any game this season after United versus Liverpool at Old Trafford in September.
United had more possession in the first half with 58 per cent to City's 42 per cent but only City managed a shot with four efforts off target.
- 15:08, 25 Oct 2015
- Updated 16:03, 25 Oct 2015
- By Rob Dawson
[h=2]Man Utd didn't have a shot in the first 45 minutes of the Manchester derby and neither time managed a shot on target.[/h]
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Manchester United failed to have a shot on or off target in the first half against Manchester City - the first time it's happened to the Reds since Opta started collecting statistics in 2003.
And neither United or City could muster a shot on target in the first half of the derby - only the second time that's happened in any game this season after United versus Liverpool at Old Trafford in September.
United had more possession in the first half with 58 per cent to City's 42 per cent but only City managed a shot with four efforts off target.
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Ukimuweka Rooney #10 Herrera atacheza wapi...?
Naona alifanya hivyo...ili kuwachezesha wote kwa pamoja....
Cha pili huyu A. Martial kidogo amefufua uhai wa attack hasa ule upande wa kushoto ambao Depay alikuwa hautendei haki...kuumia kwa young kumemfanya LVG kumtumia Martial Pembeni na Roiney as striker nyuma yake akicheza Herrera. Tutegemee mabadiliko baada ya Young kuwa na fitness
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