Government to sue NorConsult

Hawa Wachaga/Wapare wa Tanroads walikuwaje wanatoa Tender hovyo Hovyo...its seems walikua wanashirikiana na TRA..

Ilivyo na kiutaratibu unapowasilisha Tender lazima uoneshe Registration, na Uoneshe kuwa past records zako za Ulipaji wa TAX...ikiwa Documents zote hakuna...hapo tunasema TANROADS lazima ichunguzwe....pia Ukabila uliopo Hapo nao lazima usafishwe...
 
Chuma,

Wachagga/Wapare wanaingiaje katika hii issue..........hebu fafanua kidogo
 
Very interesting! I think that this issue should be investigated on both ends because if Norconsult TZ was not registred here but recognized as part of Norconsult iNternational, then the NOrwegian govt has to also take to task the company for tax evasion because I think that 3m USD was not used here but transferred to the parent company. So everybody here is involved in one way or another, Tanzanians and Norwegians!
Hmmm, very intersting indeed!
 
Hao wachaga/wapare wa TANROADs nao mafisadi tu...nao vilevile wachunguzwe...washakwiba saana!!!

mmmhhh wachaga/ wapare wanahusiana vipi na Norconsult? wao ndio wanasimamia sheria za nchiii.... Chuma umeanza ukabila
 
Hao wachaga/wapare wa TANROADs nao mafisadi tu...nao vilevile wachunguzwe...washakwiba saana!!!

Wachunguzwe Wachaga na Wapare wote? Kwi kwi kwi!!!! It seems like a blanket punishment for all Wachaga/Wapare.

Ufisadi hauna kabila.
 
I'm glad wahusika walinielewa


Mkuu Ogah! Moja la tatizo la hii forum yetu ni kutokeza vijikundi. Kuna watu wakitukana mnapata kigugumizi kuwakemea lakini nguvu hizo zinakuja pale ambapo anayetukanwa akijibu. Hii siyo haki. Kila mtu aliyeingia humu ana mtazamo wake na ni lazima waheshimiwe kwa hilo. Hii forum haiko kwa ajili ya kumkoma nyani whatever peke yake! Ndiyo maana naamini kuna sehemu za burudani, mambo ya wakubwa n.k. Mimi sikatai hata siku moja mtu kutofautiana na mimi, hiyo ni haki yao kama ilivyo kwangu kutofautiana nao(Mimi kama Fundi mchundo sijihesabu kuwa ni kichwa. Ningekuwa kichwa si ningekuwa mhandisi?) Ninapo draw the line ni tunapoingiza matusi katika tofauti zetu. Kama alivyosema Masanja, let civility rule our discourse. Tutofautiane kwa kuheshimiana.
 
I have been ndani ya Jambo Forums kwa muda mefu sana, usipotukana watu hutatukanwa hata siku moja,

lakini ukishatukana wengine unafungulia njia mwenyewe ya kutukanwa na wengine usiowategemea, halafu kama kawaida yetu wabongo utadhani unaonewa maana huwa hatukumbuki ya jana!

Kumkoma nyani ni exactly like what it is, ni kupiga mawe nyani usoni bila ya kumuangalia usoni, na no butts about it, either kusuka au kunyoa!

Mkuu Dua, heshima mbele I like your no nonesense attitude inayoambatana na hoja na facts, wako ni mfano wa kuigwa period! Yes I said it!
 

Eti watashitaki? Talk is cheap indeed. Yetu macho. Naona vigogo washaanza kutapatapa baada ya kuondolewa ulaji. Sasa mjenge wenyewe hayo madaraja, barabara, mifereji na mabomba ya maji - tena kwa pesa za kodi ya TRA siyo misaada kutoka walipa kodi wa Norwei mnayoishia kununulia ma-Range Rover Vogue na kuporomosha mahekalu ya kifahari Jangwani Beach. Pumbaaf kabisa!
 
this will be interesting.
tanzania govt wants to sue a company which was not legal to begin with
the company pulled out without fullfiling its contract....

hapo patamu, na lazima mtu mmoja au wawili watolewe muhanga kwenye hili.

i love tanzanian politics
 
Halafu JK anaimba Norway itultee mabingwa wa kumaliza rushwa Tanzania! Kazi kubwa hapo.
 
Hii habari ilitoka mwaka jana unaweza kuipata hapahttp://www.jamboforums.com/showthread.php?t=1017http://www.jamboforums.com/showthread.php?t=1017http://www.jamboforums.com/showthread.php?t=1017

Serikali ya JK imekuwa inasuasua kwenye kila jambo na huenda hata hii kesi wanayoongelea ni makengeza tu. Kama wangefuatilia kwa ukaribu haya mambo tusingekuwa hapa hivi leo.

For how long are we going to continue to give foreign companies more of our money?





Well for principal Engineer registered with the Institution of Civil Engineers in UK commands a pay of £80.00 - 150.00 per hour while graduate engineers are at about £20.00 to £30.00 per hour depending on your negotiation skill with the company.

Well you can say that UK economy is much better than Bongo but the charges being charged to tax payers (Tanzania) sometimes is more than that charged in UK the case for example is the BOT Towers.
 

Mimi hapa ndipo wahandisi ninaposhindwa kuwaelewa. Kwanza unatolewa mfano wa makandarasi,na CRB kuwa wageni wanafanya asilimia 85 ya miradi yote ya ukandarasi. Halafu Profesa anawapiga nyundo hao makandarasi wakigeni wa civil engineering projects(mabarabara, madaraja n.k) kuwa wanachukuwa asilimia 2.6. Profesa huyu anaendelea anahamishia mapigo washauri ambao ni tofauti na makandarasi, kuwa wageni wanafanya kazi nyingi (bila kufafanua maana sio lazima mkandarasi mgeni awe na mshauri mgeni!) na kuwa wanaajiri wageni asilimia 10 na raia wa Tanzania asilimia 90 (pengine mheshimiwa angefurahi kama miradi hii ingefanyiwa nje ambako asilimia 100 ya wahandisi wangetoka huko!). Anaruka kutoka hapa na kudai kuwa hii inadhiirisha wageni wanachukua asilimia 90 za malipo yote! Je hii inamaana kuwa hao raia hawalipwi hata senti?

Mheshimiwa huyu msomi anakuja baadaye kuzungumzia kuwa ma Chief Engineer na Principal Engineer wanalipwa Sh. 200,000/= kwa mwezi bila kuainisha nani anayefanya unyama huu! Je ni hayo makampuni ya kigeni yanayowalipa wafanyakazi wao kiasi hiki au ni haya ya wenzetu, tukijumuuisha idara za serikali? Tofauti na inavyosemwa humu kuna makampuni mengi tu ya wahandisi raia ambayo yamepata mafanikio makubwa. Makampuni kama TANconsult, M-Konsult,Electriplan n.k. Mradi wa jengo la Bunge ingawa mkandarasi alikuwa mchina lakini washauri(consultants)wote yalikuwa makampuni ya kitanzania ( architect ni kampuni iliyosajiliwa Kenya na tanzani na yenye wakurugenzi watanzania)! Mimi ningependa kujua haya makampuni ya kwetu yanawalipa kiasi gani wahandisi wao ukilinganisha na hayo ya kigeni. Ukweli ni kuwa hakuna mwenye interest na miradi ambayo inawalenga walalahoi, si wageni na si wenzetu. Kinachogombewa hapa ni kuwabadili matajiri wa kigeni kwa matajiri wenzetu, mlalahoi atabaki palepale!
 

Sasa huyu Prof. walifanya survey........
 
Kuna ukweli hapa..engineering in bongo is one of the hardest professions to make money in ..unless u own the company au uwe prof UDSM ule consultancy fees here n there..kuajiriwa noma!! unless unafanya kazi na kampuni za ulaya (maybe)...watu 10yrs experience wanapata 300,000tsh kwa mwezi ...wengi wao wanaishia kuwa walevi tuu..there is no hope kabisaaaaa...then unakuta mtu kama rostam ajasomea engineering wala nini lakini ujanja wake wa biashara unamtoa kipasavyo..i think ianzishwe course ya maisha ya mjini chuoni kabla wanafunzi hawajaingia uraiani..jus a thought.. 🙂
 
....hii inasikitisha sana, kuona watu tunaowategemea sana kuwa wanalipwa kiduchu namna hiyo...............

......hizi bodi sijui....zinawasimamiaje hawa wadau wake.................hata kama ni soko huru......ili kulinda profession ni lazima kuwe na clear cut.......i.e. a defined renumerations kwa professions kama za engineering na zinginezo......mbona wenzetu wanazo......kwa nini sisi Chief Engineer alipwe US$200????.....hii inatia kinyaa kwa kweli........halafu huyo huyo engineer ndio anatayarisha malipo of millions ya mkandarasi!!!......

......Dua tunashukuru kwa mfano wako............nafikri ndio sababu wataalamu wetu walio wengi wanakimbilia nje
 

Ninachokisema si ndiyo hiki! Mara nyingi wanaolipa vizuri ni hayo makampuni ya nje. Na kama Profesa anasema kweli kuwa 90% ya waajiriwa wake ni raia basi badala ya kuwalani ni lazima tuwashukuru. Makampuni yanayolipa hiyo mishahara uchwara mara nyingi ni ya kwetu na idara za serikali(title za chief na principal zinatumika sana katika idara za serkali). Mtazamo wetu wa kumlipa hausgeli unaendelea mpaka kwenye sehemu za kazi.

Wengi wetu lengo letu kuu ni kujijengea nyumba. Mbona hatuajiri makampuni ya wazawa kutufanyia hivyo? Hata pale tunapojenga maksri mnakimbilia kutuajiri mafundi mchundo na kuwakabidhi ndugu na jamaa zetu (ambao mara nyingi hawana uzoefu na wanatutia hasara) kazi ya kujenga. Hata kwnye miradi mikubwa ni wachache sana wanaotaka kuajiri makandarasi na konslatants wawe raia au sio raia! Leo tunalalamikia miradi ambayo mingi inafadhiliwa na wahisani. Hivi kweli sisi wenyewe tungekuwa na uwezo wa kufadhili miradi nje tungefurahi kusikia kampuni ya Kenya ndiyo inayofaidika? Charity begins at home.
 
Wakuu wana JF....
Kwanza nadhani hii heading inamislead, sababu Mrema aliongea kwamba watashatakiwa iwapo watashidwa kutekeleza mikataba waliyonayo! Hapa hawa jamaa wamesema watamalizia mikataba yote waliyonayo....hapa sioni sababu ya kushatakiwa!
Pia naomba ieleweke kwamba hapa hawa Norconsult hawajafunga ofisi hapa Tz, at not immediately. They winding up their operations and their Tz office is under direct administration from Norway. They have fired the NTZ MD, that is correct.

If I quote part of their statement "- We have brought the irregular activities to an end. Managing Director of Norconsult Tanzania Ltd. has taken the responsibility and has resigned with immediate effect. NTZ has been put under administration from Norway. Norconsult will fulfil all its contractual obligations in Tanzania. All ongoing and rewarded contracts will be completed according to contract." http://www.norconsult.com/?did=9082180

Naunga mkono kwamba uhandisi umekua ni fani isiyo na reward ya kutosha hapa tz.... ni kweli watu wanalipwa mishahara midogo sana!
 
Am sure investigations will reveal that corrupt slob Andrew Mkapa of BRELA is involved.We need to start a list of the UNTOUCHABLE MAFISADI OF BONGO.We will be in for a big shock to see the numbers and names.

Andrew Mkapa kawekwa hapo kwa kazi maalum
 
Heshima mbele Wakuu.... Naona jama wameangalia pors and cons wamebadilisha hata maneno yaliyosemwa mwanzo ikiwemo kuendeleza libeneke Bongo....

Angalia The Citizen leo wanasemaje hapa:

Tanzania: Norconsult Reverses Decision to Pull Out

The Citizen (Dar es Salaam)19 May 2008
Posted to the web 19 May 2008

Tom Mosoba


Norwegian international engineering consultancy firm Norconsult AS, which two weeks ago announced the closure of its operations in Tanzania over corruption, has pledged to honour its remaining contracts in the country.
The company has also retracted an earlier statement announcing the sacking of the managing director of its Tanzania office, Mr Francis Kifukwe, saying he had voluntarily stepped down.

The twists and turns point to intense horse trading since reports on Norconsult's illegal activities in Tanzania were revealed last month.

The company's global president, Mr John Nyheim, issued a new statement, reversing the firm's earlier position.

The new statement posted on the company's website last Wednesday, is in stark contrast with the first one issued on May 5 through the same medium by Mr Nyheim.

While Mr Nyheim was categorical in the first communication announcing the firm's withdrawal from Tanzania that Mr Kifukwe's employment had been terminated, he says in the news statement that Mr Kifukwe has resigned.

"Managing director of Norconsult Tanzania Ltd has taken the responsibility and has resigned with immediate effect.

"Norconsult will fulfill all its contractual obligations in Tanzania. All ongoing and rewarded contracts will be completed according to contract," the statement adds.

Mr Nyheim said Norconsult had put the Dar es Salaam office directly under its headquarters in Norway.

The new statement also makes no mention of the company's earlier position that no Norconsult employee was aware of irregular payments in the Dar es Salaam office.

The company's pledge to honour its contracts follows the threat by the Government, through the Tanzania Roads Agency (Tanroads), to sue the firm for breach of contract.

Tanroads CEO Ephraem Mrema last week told The Citizen Norconsult had not alerted them of their withdrawal and said they would consider legal action to ensure that existing contracts were respected.

It was, however, not immediately clear if the turnaround had anything to do with the threats by Tanroads to sue Norconsult. Calls to their overseas offices bore no fruit as a promise to get back to us was not honoured.

Mr Kifukwe, on his part decline, to comment on the new development or even confirm if indeed he had voluntarily resigned or was forced out of office.

"I would not wish to comment on anything just speak to those who are releasing the information," Mr Kifukwe said by telephone when reached for comment. Norconsult indicated all the Dar es Salaam operations would be administered from Norway.

Mr Mrema could also not be reached, but sources within Tanroads said the issue of Norconsult contracts was being discussed. "I can't therefore confirm or deny if the company will be working (with us)," said an official who asked not to be named.

The Citizen exclusively reported earlier this month that the firm, which has contracts worth billions of shillings, has decided to pull out over corruption.

The firm said it was winding up all its operations in Tanzania after audit reports linked its business to corruption in which audits done over the last one year alone reportedly revealed embezzlement of up to a reported Sh332 million in highly irregular payments.

"We do not accept any kind of misconduct or corruption. As a consequence, we cease our activities in Tanzania," Mr Nyheim said.

He added: "Internal and external reviews of the activities of Norconsult's partly owned subsidiary in Tanzania have revealed activity that is not in accordance with the company's Code of Ethics and contracts."

He said the misconduct was revealed through Norconsult's own internal review followed by an external review by PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC).

Mr Nyheim gave examples through which a total of Sh332 million was believed to have been corruptly obtained from its local operations.

"It has been established that in the past several irregular cash payments have been made from Norconsult's partly owned subsidiary in Tanzania, NTZ, totalling approximately NOK (Norwegian Kronor) 650.000 (Sh156 million)," he said.

He noted that last year, $146 500 (Sh176 million) had been paid out in cash from the project office in Dar es Salaam, with only petty cash receipts as documentation. This particular case apparently involved Norconsult's participation in the World Bank funded Dar es Salaam Water and Sanitation Project (Dawasa).

The decision to halt its lucrative contracts in Tanzania followed exposure how the Norwegian company had operating locally for a decade without any form of official registration.

That anomaly did not however prevent Norconsult from executing mammoth projects overseen by some high authorities including the government, World Bank and the Norwegian embassy here in Dar es Salaam. It has over the years evolved into one of the major engineering consultancy firms in Tanzania.


Courtesy: The Citizen
 
Hizi ni semantics tuu.Hawa waandishi vilaza wanataka kutuchanganya.

Hakuna kampuni worth its salt inaweza kufunga ofisi bila kufulfill its obligations. Wanachofanya ni kuacha kutafuta kazi mpya na kukamilisha miradi iliyobaki aidha wao wenyewe au kwa kushirikiana na mwenzao. Obligations zikiisha ndipo wanapofunga hesabu na ofisi. Tukumbuke si tu kuwa wanadaiwa kazi pengine na wao wanadai malipo.

Hayo ya Kifukwe, hivyo hivyo. Wakubwa ni mara chache kufukuzana isipokuwa unaambiwa kiutu uzima kuwa hauna future katika hiyo ofisi. Mwenye akili anatenda resignation na kuchukua haki zake badala ya kusubiri the inevitable!

Huyo CEO wa Tanroads, kama ndiyo kweli alivyosema basi nae anaonyesha udhaifu wake. Kulikuwa hamna haja ya vitisho maana anatakiwa afahamu kuwa NorConsult wasingeweza kuondoka kama mwizi. Naona nae anatafuta umaarufu!
 

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