Errors in genesis

[negotiator nodegi]

Uumbaji wa Mungu siyo siasa tafuta mtumishi wa Mungu karibu yako akupe somo badala ya kuendelea kutenda dhambi.

 

[Guest from Wazua]

you are absolutely right bro
!
genesis story of creation began when the universe had already existed in macro scale

some peoples try to reconcile what bible teach and modern day big bang,but big bang is not scriptural and bible is not scientifically accurate

forexample,in the very first line of bible,God say "let their be light"...this is powerfull commands of divine being(jehovah) calling light into existence

entire account of creation,says God made the life and the universe,include matter and energy through series of command
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in other word,He command something to come out of nothing,contrary to first law of thermodynamics.

for such situation(creation through command) we should not expect the fundamental law of nature to be obeyed in this universe

Why the double standards boss?

In quantum level(I think you are familiar with quantum mechanics)things are quite different
particles can pop into and out of existence without any cause

so it's possible for something to exist out of nothing.

1. The big bang theory contradicts the laws of thermodynamics just like the Genesis creation story but frm your perspective, the Big bang theory is more believable than the creation story
2. In quantum mechanics,it's possible for things to pop out of nothing including the big bang theory where something came out of nothing is believable yet you find it hard to believe the creation story where God commanded something to come out of nothing.

If you look at the bible you can easily reconcile science to the biblical scriptures.

The big bang theory tells us that the universe keeps on expanding which is supported by the bible that tells us that God sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

In my view the science tells us how the universe came into existence while the bible tells us why and where did the universe came from. They are both complimenting each other!

 

[Carbondioxide]

topic:genetics, form fourth, ni kweli kuna makosa naloog outside

 

[CHENGU MANURE]

Why the double standards boss?



1. The big bang theory contradicts the laws of thermodynamics just like the Genesis creation story but frm your perspective, the Big bang theory is more believable than the creation story
2. In quantum mechanics,it's possible for things to pop out of nothing including the big bang theory where something came out of nothing is believable yet you find it hard to believe the creation story where God commanded something to come out of nothing.

If you look at the bible you can easily reconcile science to the biblical scriptures.

The big bang theory tells us that the universe keeps on expanding which is supported by the bible that tells us that God sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

In my view the science tells us how the universe came into existence while the bible tells us why and where did the universe came from. They are both complimenting each other!

UKO VIZURI MKUU. WITH MY SURFACE KNOWLEDGE ON QUANTUM PHYSICS. i WILL DIG AND COME UP WITH INPUTS THAT WILL HELP TO DISQUALIFY THIS BING BANG THEORY.

 

[einstein newton]

particle can pop into and out of existence not because they violate first law of thermodynamics but quantum fluctuation permit them to do so

 

[einstein newton]

by Guest from wazua

1. The big bang theory contradicts the laws of thermodynamics just like the Genesis creation story but frm your perspective, the Big bang theory is more believable than the creation story
2. In quantum mechanics,it's possible for things to pop out of nothing including the big bang theory where something came out of nothing is believable yet you find it hard to believe the creation story where God commanded something to come out of nothing.

If you look at the bible you can easily reconcile science to the biblical scriptures.

It's true that genesis account of creation and bigbang model both contradict the first law of thermodynamic but in different ways

in the begining there was nothing but God created matter out of nothing through command...contrary to law of thermodynamic

big bang started with already existed materials this violate first law of thermodynamic but it can be logically correct because it didn't create matter from nothing

 

[einstein newton]

by Guest from wazua

1. The big bang theory contradicts the laws of thermodynamics just like the Genesis creation story but frm your perspective, the Big bang theory is more believable than the creation story
2. In quantum mechanics,it's possible for things to pop out of nothing including the big bang theory where something came out of nothing is believable yet you find it hard to believe the creation story where God commanded something to come out of nothing.

If you look at the bible you can easily reconcile science to the biblical scriptures.

big bang model can never be reconciled with bible because it's not scriptural

and it is philosophical mistake to reconcile those two model
big bang was philosophically inveted to be the alternative of creation theory

so it seems ridiculous to claim that those two theories can be compatible
big bang was not came directly from scripture but is mathematically natural and unique.

 

[Kobeee]

Binadam bhana unawaza dunia iliubwa na kubishana kipi cha kweli, ingesaidia kama tungewaza jinsi ya kuzui kufa au kula halafu tusife.

 

[Guest from Wazua]

It's true that genesis account of creation and bigbang model both contradict the first law of thermodynamic but in different ways

in the begining there was nothing but God created matter out of nothing through command...contrary to law of thermodynamic

big bang started with already existed materials this violate first law of thermodynamic but it can be logically correct because it didn't create matter from nothing

In science they say there is no exception to laws,otherwise the laws cease to exist.

What you're basically saying is that our universe never had the beginning because it was "already existing" which contradicts laws of relativity. Science cannot explain where the "already existing material"came from.

If science or you can answer where the singularity and energy came from before the big bhang explosion. then maybe you might convince me that a deity didn't create the universe.

 

[einstein newton]

UKO VIZURI MKUU. WITH MY SURFACE KNOWLEDGE ON QUANTUM PHYSICS. i WILL DIG AND COME UP WITH INPUTS THAT WILL HELP TO DISQUALIFY THIS BING BANG THEORY.

you can't use relativity to disprove relativity because both are the same
and this is what you trying to do right now

quantum mechanics is compatible with big bang model..so you can't use one to
disqualify other

 

[real G]

you are absolutely right bro.

Mistake cannot justfy the mistake,sasa mtu anakwambia kuwa chanzo cha mwanga ni mwanakondoo...absurd

mtu hana huelewe hata na maxwell's equation halafu bado analeta ubishi usio na tija

kaka ujue wewe naona unawapeleka mbali saana, uwaambia mambo complicated sana kwa ambao hawajasoma advanced sayansi, ila kujuakua bible ni contradiction moja ambayo ipo wazi kabisa hutakiwi hata kua mwanasayansi, mtu yeyote ambaye anaweza ku reason vizuri hata kama hajasoma anaona bible ni contradiction moja ya ajabu sana, mungu anayeabudiwa kua ana huruma, ana haki, anaipenda sana dunia (akamtoa mwanae yesu) ukisoma bibilia anaonekana ni mungu ambaye ni katili, mwenye, hasira na impulsive sana, maana anachoma watu moto wa milele, alileta gharika kuu kuua kila kiumbe, alim-set up yuda kisha akamwadhibu, aliua na alitesa wamisri kibao kwa kosa la mfalme wao na maifano mingine kibaooo ipo tu, kuonyesha kua bible inajipinga yenyewe

 

[einstein newton]

In science they say there is no exception to laws,otherwise the laws cease to exist.

What you're basically saying is that our universe never had the beginning because it was "already existing" which contradicts laws of relativity. Science cannot explain where the "already existing material"came from.

If science or you can answer where the singularity and energy came from before the big bhang explosion. then maybe you might convince me that a deity didn't create the universe.

this is one of open problems in cosmology and probably the biggest failure of big bang model
but still there is no room for supreme being in creation of universe...you can still faith in your God untill the time when science will able to solve this puzzle

 

[einstein newton]

kaka ujue wewe naona unawapeleka mbali saana, uwaambia mambo complicated sana kwa ambao hawajasoma advanced sayansi, ila kujuakua bible ni contradiction moja ambayo ipo wazi kabisa hutakiwi hata kua mwanasayansi, mtu yeyote ambaye anaweza ku reason vizuri hata kama hajasoma anaona bible ni contradiction moja ya ajabu sana, mungu anayeabudiwa kua ana huruma, ana haki, anaipenda sana dunia (akamtoa mwanae yesu) ukisoma bibilia anaonekana ni mungu ambaye ni katili, mwenye, hasira na impulsive sana, maana anachoma watu moto wa milele, alileta gharika kuu kuua kila kiumbe, alim-set up yuda kisha akamwadhibu, aliua na alitesa wamisri kibao kwa kosa la mfalme wao na maifano mingine kibaooo ipo tu, kuonyesha kua bible inajipinga yenyewe

well said mkuu

kama biblia ingekuwa neno kweli la Mungu anayejua kila kitu/omniscient kusingekuwapo na contradiction za wazi kama hizo.

kama Mungu aingilii free will ya mwanadamu kwanini aliufanya moyo wa farao kuwa mgumu,ili atimize lengo lake?

 

[Guest from Wazua]

this is one of open problems in cosmology and probably the biggest failure of big bang model
but still there is no room for supreme being in creation of universe...you can still faith in your God untill the time when science will able to solve this puzzle

Thanks for accepting the failures of big bang theory.

In my opinion,Science has proven the existence of God by failing to explain the origin of the singularity.Until it will be able to prove otherwise the beggining of the world to me can only be explained by a deity.

BTW,do you know that it was a catholic priest who came up with the big bhang theory?

 

[Lumbi9]

well said mkuu

kama biblia ingekuwa neno kweli la Mungu anayejua kila kitu/omniscient kusingekuwapo na contradiction za wazi kama hizo.

kama Mungu aingilii free will ya mwanadamu kwanini aliufanya moyo wa farao kuwa mgumu,ili atimize lengo lake?

kulikuwa na umuhimu gani was kumuumba mtu kama yuda wakati huyo mungu alishajua atakuja kuwa msaliti kupata adhabu ya kujinyonga

 

[real G]

well said mkuu

kama biblia ingekuwa neno kweli la mungu anayejua kila kitu/omniscient kusingekuwapo na contradiction za wazi kama hizo.

Kama mungu aingilii free will ya mwanadamu kwanini aliufanya moyo wa farao kuwa mgumu,ili atimize lengo lake?

sasa si ndio hapo??? Hebu tuwaulize hawa watu wa bibilia maswali simple kama haya watujibu, haya ya thermodynamics na bing bang theory yatawachanganya ambao hawajasoma sayansi kwenye kuchangia uzi

 

[einstein newton]

Binadam bhana unawaza dunia iliubwa na kubishana kipi cha kweli, ingesaidia kama tungewaza jinsi ya kuzui kufa au kula halafu tusife.

all you need is money
I have inveted time machine wich can send you back to your young version whenever you get old,hence attain immortality

(just fiction but it can be real one day if you will faith in science and not divine one.

 

[Guest from Wazua]

well said mkuu

kama biblia ingekuwa neno kweli la Mungu anayejua kila kitu/omniscient kusingekuwapo na contradiction za wazi kama hizo.

kama Mungu aingilii free will ya mwanadamu kwanini aliufanya moyo wa farao kuwa mgumu,ili atimize lengo lake?

That's a very lame argument,it's like arguing that if you punish you kids then you are not a loving compassionate parent!
God uses suffering to
1.Punish sin either directly or indirectly
2.To produce good
3. Reinforce our believe in him

 

[einstein newton]

Thanks for accepting the failures of big bang theory.

In my opinion,Science has proven the existence of God by failing to explain the origin of the singularity.Until it will be able to prove otherwise the beggining of the world to me can only be explained by a deity.

BTW,do you know that it was a catholic priest who came up with the big bhang theory?

yap!...but his career has nothing to do with mainstream science

 

[THIS IS AFRICA]

kuna loophole mingi kwa biblia.kama abel alizaa na nani?may inasemekana ni dadake bt that was against the torah.Back to genesis adam.eve and garden of eden is an allergory.reliog is a dogma.