Anguko la CHADEMA lipo njiani

Mwanamutapa · Mar 31, 2014

Chinga One said:
Sijakataa mkuu ila sasa utayari na uimara wa chama kinacho tarajiwa kuchukua dola uko wapi? kama viongozi wa ngazi za chini na hata ngazi za juu wako fragile kiasi hiki we unadhani unaweza kuwaaminisha wananchi wawape ridhaa? watanzania mda mwingine sio wajinga kaka..Nidhamu ya kiuongozi ndio nguzo ya mafanikio,usi jadili hili neno "nidhamu ya kiuongozi" kwa upeo mdogo hauto elewa kamwe ninacho kiongelea hapo.

Hatuhitaji kuwa na chama kilichojengwa na kuwa na mizizi sana ili kitawale we just need few people and other will follow MMD ya Chiluba ilikuwa na grassroots kama UNIP ya Kahunda? UDF ya Bakili Muluzi ilikuwa na misingi imara mpaka vijijini kama MCP ya Banda? TNA ya Uhuru Kenyatta ilikuwa na organization imara kama ODM ya Raila? Watanzania tukubali ni wajinga kwasababu chama kinapochukua nchi na kuunda serikali hakindoi kila mtendaji wa serikali maana serikali ni cabinet na highly government officials, it will be unfair my friend to compare CCM and opposition parties in Tanzania. CCM alongside ANC and FRELIMO were built in sweat and blood of the people we don't expect new parties to march their strength however In changes we don't need a party to be as much strong as CCM or ANC to take over the government since we are not communist to have a very strong party in power. Nyerere wakati anatawala TANU haikuwa na uimara kama CCM lakini alitawala na wengine walifuata hatuhitaji sio lazima Uhuru Kenyatta kwa sasa anatawala kwa chama alichoanzisha miezi 4 kabla ya uchaguzi na hakuna shida hapo Kenya tusianze kupeana maneno yasiyo ya msingi hata kidogo, CHADEMA ilivyo inatosha sana kwanza wengi wako CCM kwa woga siku CCM iko out power hutaisikia tena and it will never govern again kama UNIP kule Zambia, UPC kule Uganda, KANU pale Kenya na MCP pale Malawi usitishwe na bendera na nyimbo na kugawiwa fulana people are tired of CCM and they know CHADEMA is the answer

Generalkaduma · Mar 31, 2014

wewe mwigulu ndo viongozi sahihi.chiz mkubwa

rajabs · Mar 31, 2014

kalagabaho said:
Wanapenda kukaribishwa ikulu kunywa juisi hawa sijapata kuona

Tena wakikarbishwa juisi huwa wanashinda njaa ili wakifika ikulu wanywe friji zima.

Chinga One · Mar 31, 2014

Mwanamutapa said:
Hatuhitaji kuwa na chama kilichojengwa na kuwa na mizizi sana ili kitawale we just need few people and other will follow MMD ya Chiluba ilikuwa na grassroots kama UNIP ya Kahunda? UDF ya Bakili Muluzi ilikuwa na misingi imara mpaka vijijini kama MCP ya Banda? TNA ya Uhuru Kenyatta ilikuwa na organization imara kama ODM ya Raila? Watanzania tukubali ni wajinga kwasababu chama kinapochukua nchi na kuunda serikali hakindoi kila mtendaji wa serikali maana serikali ni cabinet na highly government officials, it will be unfair my friend to compare CCM and opposition parties in Tanzania. CCM alongside ANC and FRELIMO were built in sweat and blood of the people we don't expect new parties to march their strength however In changes we don't need a party to be as much strong as CCM or ANC to take over the government since we are not communist to have a very strong party in power. Nyerere wakati anatawala TANU haikuwa na uimara kama CCM lakini alitawala na wengine walifuata hatuhitaji sio lazima Uhuru Kenyatta kwa sasa anatawala kwa chama alichoanzisha miezi 4 kabla ya uchaguzi na hakuna shida hapo Kenya tusianze kupeana maneno yasiyo ya msingi hata kidogo, CHADEMA ilivyo inatosha sana kwanza wengi wako CCM kwa woga siku CCM iko out power hutaisikia tena and it will never govern again kama UNIP kule Zambia, UPC kule Uganda, KANU pale Kenya na MCP pale Malawi usitishwe na bendera na nyimbo na kugawiwa fulana people are tired of CCM and they know CHADEMA is the answer

Daah mkuu tunatofautiana sana katika huu mjadala we unazungumzia chama kupenya mpaka vijijini mi naongelea "nidhamu ya kiuongozi" na ndio maana nika kuambia usi litafakari hili neno kwa "upeo mdogo" unaweza ukapotea kabisa kwa kile ninacho kiongelea hapa,by the way inawezekana kabisa kwa chama kilichoundwa kwa miezi sita kabla ya uchaguzi kuchukua nchi endapo tu kama viongozi wake wame jengwa kwenye misingi ya nidhamu na wana elewana na kusikilizana sio kila mtu kutaka kuwa mwenye sauti ndani ya chama.hiyo mifano yote uliyo itoa iko sahihi lakini jiulize licha ya utayari wa wananchi kuwakabidhi dola je nidhamu yao ndani ya chama ilikuaje? mpaka wananchi wakawapigia kura ya ushindi? kimsingi tukubali kabisa kwa chadema viongozi wake wengi bado sana they are easly broken that is why leo anaweza kuibuka mwenyeki hata wa kitongoji akaanza kumtukana katibu mkuu hadharani what does that mean?

Chinga One · Mar 31, 2014

Generalkaduma said:
wewe mwigulu ndo viongozi sahihi.chiz mkubwa

Siwezi kujibishana na mpu.mbavu who pretend to be clever like a whor.e.....cr.ap!

salimkabora · Mar 31, 2014

Chinga One said:
Hii ni simple research niliyo ifanya lakini ina mashiko sana kubali au kataa lakini ndio ukweli,

Ni hivi chadema ni chama cha siasa kilicho ibuka na kujipatia wanachama wengi kwa muda mfupi sana kiasi kwamba chama kinashindwa kuwa control wanachama wake kutokana na kukosa misingi imara ya kiuongozi kuanzia ngazi za matawi,kata,majimbo mpaka taifani.hapa nina maana kwamba chama hakiku jiandaa kiuongozi kukabiliana na wingi wa wanachama walio jipatia that is why kila mtu ndani ya chama ana sauti au kwa lugha nyingine kila mtu ndani ya chama ni mbabe.

Kwa maana hii ndio maana inakua kazi rahisi sana kwa ccm kupenya ndani ya cdm na kuwarubuni baadhi ya viongozi wa chama ktk ngazi zote na hatimae hata zinapo fanyika chaguzi utakuta ccm wanashinda kiurahisi sana kwenye maeneo mengi ya mijini na vijijini.

My take:chama kichukue muda wa kuji imarisha kiuongozi kwenye ngazi zote na kujengaNIDHAMU YA KIUONGOZIkwa wanachama wote kwa ujumla,ili kuepusha hii kitu ya kila mmoja kutaka kuwa na sauti chamani.la sivyo tutaendelea kuvuana uanachama kila uchwao na tutabakia kuwa wapinzani milele.

Mungu ibariki chadema.

Anguko la cdm linatokana na njaa; watafute mpunga kwanza viongozi wapate shibe sio kula watu wachache

Chinga One · Mar 31, 2014

salimkabora said:
Anguko la cdm linatokana na njaa; watafute mpunga kwanza viongozi wapate shibe sio kula watu wachache

we nawe ndio wale wale tu...

salimkabora · Mar 31, 2014

Chinga One said:
we nawe ndio wale wale tu...

Wale wale akina nani? peoples' power ni falsafa iliyopitwa na wakati hizi ni zama za money power na mwenye pesa atatawala milele unafikiri chama kubwa wanakwapua ili nini ili wawe na money power

Mwanamutapa · Mar 31, 2014

Nidhamu ya uongozi? CCM wananidhamu wale? Wangekuwa na nidhamu what in the world the former premier Mr Lowassa is too powerful than the president himself? Rais hana uwezo wa kukanya wajumbe wake kila mwanachama anajiamulia mambo yake kwa kifupi CCM ya Kikwete sio mfano wa kuigwa ni awamu ya hovyo hatujawahi kuona, pesa zinafichwa nje na Rais anajua hachukui hatua yeyote, wanyama wanauawa mbugani hakuna hatua yeyoye Kikwete tangu aingie madarakani kabadilisha viongozi wakuu wa chama wangapi? Tukianza na makatibu wakuu? Manaibu katibu na katibu wenezi? Chini ya Kikwete CCM inayumba sana uongozi legevu inasurvive sababu imeshika dola na viongozi wa juu hawana maamuzi ya kweli kuondoka chamani ni chama hovyo sana chini ya Jk aliyeingia kwa visasi na kuchafua wengine sio mfano kabisa hata mara moja chama kinajiendea kwa vitisho toka kwa viongozi wa juu na si viongozi mathubuti. The removal of CCM from power is urgent of need and we need it now

Mathias Lyamunda · Mar 31, 2014

Chinga One said:
Hii ni simple research niliyo ifanya lakini ina mashiko sana kubali au kataa lakini ndio ukweli,

Ni hivi chadema ni chama cha siasa kilicho ibuka na kujipatia wanachama wengi kwa muda mfupi sana kiasi kwamba chama kinashindwa kuwa control wanachama wake kutokana na kukosa misingi imara ya kiuongozi kuanzia ngazi za matawi,kata,majimbo mpaka taifani.hapa nina maana kwamba chama hakiku jiandaa kiuongozi kukabiliana na wingi wa wanachama walio jipatia that is why kila mtu ndani ya chama ana sauti au kwa lugha nyingine kila mtu ndani ya chama ni mbabe.

Kwa maana hii ndio maana inakua kazi rahisi sana kwa ccm kupenya ndani ya cdm na kuwarubuni baadhi ya viongozi wa chama ktk ngazi zote na hatimae hata zinapo fanyika chaguzi utakuta ccm wanashinda kiurahisi sana kwenye maeneo mengi ya mijini na vijijini.

My take:chama kichukue muda wa kuji imarisha kiuongozi kwenye ngazi zote na kujengaNIDHAMU YA KIUONGOZIkwa wanachama wote kwa ujumla,ili kuepusha hii kitu ya kila mmoja kutaka kuwa na sauti chamani.la sivyo tutaendelea kuvuana uanachama kila uchwao na tutabakia kuwa wapinzani milele.

Mungu ibariki chadema.

Chadema iko Imara wewe mchumia tumbo, ona picha hiyo ya leo Mwanza.

duanzi · Mar 31, 2014

Mathias Lyamunda said:
Chadema iko Imara wewe mchumia tumbo, ona picha hiyo ya leo Mwanza.

nimeamini watanzania wameichoka chadema

Chinga One · Mar 31, 2014

Mwanamutapa said:
Nidhamu ya uongozi? CCM wananidhamu wale? Wangekuwa na nidhamu what in the world the former premier Mr Lowassa is too powerful than the president himself? Rais hana uwezo wa kukanya wajumbe wake kila mwanachama anajiamulia mambo yake kwa kifupi CCM ya Kikwete sio mfano wa kuigwa ni awamu ya hovyo hatujawahi kuona, pesa zinafichwa nje na Rais anajua hachukui hatua yeyote, wanyama wanauawa mbugani hakuna hatua yeyoye Kikwete tangu aingie madarakani kabadilisha viongozi wakuu wa chama wangapi? Tukianza na makatibu wakuu? Manaibu katibu na katibu wenezi? Chini ya Kikwete CCM inayumba sana uongozi legevu inasurvive sababu imeshika dola na viongozi wa juu hawana maamuzi ya kweli kuondoka chamani ni chama hovyo sana chini ya Jk aliyeingia kwa visasi na kuchafua wengine sio mfano kabisa hata mara moja chama kinajiendea kwa vitisho toka kwa viongozi wa juu na si viongozi mathubuti. The removal of CCM from power is urgent of need and we need it now

Daah braza naona hatu elewani kiswahili hapa! have a good night!

Chinga One · Mar 31, 2014

Mathias Lyamunda said:
Chadema iko Imara wewe mchumia tumbo, ona picha hiyo ya leo Mwanza.

Usivamie mijadala usiyo ielewa.

mmaranguoriginal. · Mar 31, 2014

abakorakamo said:
nimeamini watanzania wameichoka chadema

wewe kama mkeo amekuchoka sio wote.umefanya huu wapi na lini

Ng'wanangwa · Mar 31, 2014

ndoto za linacha

mmaranguoriginal. · Mar 31, 2014

Chinga One said:
Usivamie mijadala usiyo ielewa.

mkuu ni ushauri mzuri kwa cdm ,tatizo ya la baadhi makada wa cdm nao wanaanza kukosoa kila kitu chenye maslahi kwa chama wamekuwa washabiki zaidi bila kufanya analysis.

Mzee Mwenzangu · Mar 31, 2014

Ukweli watu wanaujua lakini huwa hawapendi kuusema, Dr. wangu nadhani yeye anaujua zaidi na anaweza fafanua.
Wahenga (ingawa sijawahi kuwaona) wanasema Mungu hamfichi mnafiki, ndo anguko la cdm lilipo.
Kwa wakristu kuna amri inasema usilitaje bure jina la Mungu wako inawahusu sana hawa cdm.
Wana msemo kuwa tumeanza na Mungu, tutamaliza na Mungu, hapa ndo chukizo lilipo anzia kwa mwenyezi Mungu.
Dr. wangu kaasi kanisani, leo sijui huyu aliye naye ni mke wa ngapi....ameanza na Mungu anamaliza na .......
Mwingine kamuasi mke aliyepewa na Mungu, sijua ana wangapi pembeni.....ameanza na Mungu anamaliza na Mungu
Mwingine naye na uzee wake mwanaye katelekezwa hata haoni wasiwasi anaona mkwewe ndo dume la mbegu....
Kuna mengine mwaweza ongeza, lakini hayo hapo juu, Mungu hawezi akaacha uendelee kulitaja jina lake bure.
Naamini wakitubu watasamehewa na nafasi bado wanayo. Huo msemo waachane nao kabisa maana ndo chanzo kikuu cha Muumba kuwanyima busara na kujikuta wanashindwa kukemea yanayofanywa na walio chini yao kwa kuyaona ni ya kujenga huku yakisambaratisha chama.
Wakihitaji msaada wa maombi humu jf kuna wachungaji wengi tu wasihofu kujiweka huru.

duanzi · Mar 31, 2014

mmaranguoriginal. said:
wewe kama mkeo amekuchoka sio wote.umefanya huu wapi na lini

watanzania wanaipenda sana ACT

duanzi · Mar 31, 2014

mmaranguoriginal. said:
wewe kama mkeo amekuchoka sio wote.umefanya huu wapi na lini

chadema imepoteza mvuto

CHAMVIGA · Mar 31, 2014

CHADEMA AKA KADIMA unataka ianguke mara ya ngapi?

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