Airtel will be another tragic failure of President Magufuli

[shige2]

The cost of finger pointing to Multinationals is very high comparing with yester regimes

It is neither finger pointing nor witch hunting but rather making every deal and any agreement done previously CLEAR tothe public.
And thus to make it be above board. Showing TRANSPARENCY!
We do not want to be chagrined as a nation for being naive when dealing with Multinationals whatever.
Those days are gone sir.

 

[Bramo]

What action should the current government take other than negotiations since errors were done by the past governments?

Keep on hoping for disgracing results, but what is obvious is the fact that such purposeful stupid errors will not take place again in Magufuli's regime.

Do you know what is an error ???
Yaani wizi wa unautafutia jina la kuupamba kisa umefanywa na Bwana zako.
Shubaaaaaaaaamit

 

[Chintu]

It was stupidity of those who agreed and hoped that accacia will pay them back.

We are totally lost as a nation to get lead by inferio and incompetent leaders, a bunch of cowards

The intelligent ones like you were hoping and praying to be sued by ACACIA so that the country could pay billions.
Keep on praying bro! your gods may hear your prayers and grant your wish.

 

[kikokotoleo]

Asante sheikh hussein

 

[Mr. Bigman]

By the way, what happened to those containers full of 'makinikia' and the promised USD 300 million (kishika uchumba)?

Dont know what mind game Sizonje Will Start playing This year Maana CD zote kwisha cheza

 

[Mr. Bigman]

Wapumbaf wanashangilia hii...

Í will celebrate everytime The ******** government fails

 

[Kitunga Kitunga]

When u say we always lose when we go on negotiating table, what do u mean? Coz by refusing these giants from exporting their by products 'makinikia' we coursed em big losses, for which they could've taken us to court. instead they came on the negotiating table and agreed to some of what we had put on the table.
I think we shouldn't alway be negative with what our gvmnt is trying to do, we can criticise yes, but also 'mnyonge mnyongeni, haki yake mpeni'

 

[August]

It is another morning in a nation where wonders never cease;

Interestingly,Dr.Mpango has said it all;
They are going to the negotiating table to discus the future of Airtel which used to be so many companies,and we all know what usually happens when this regime goes to the negotiating tables,We lose!
It is not yet time but for sure we need results and so far all that we see is some kind of instability.

What are you negotiating with the thieves as you claim,Is it another Makinikia ya Acacia Saga?

Any way All the best on this one,

PBK

Ndugu PBK ninachokiona ktk andiko lako ni mambo yafuatayo
1. Moja una shida na hesabu hivyo mambo ya kuanzia cel tel kwenda zain mpaka kuja kuwa airtel ni issue ya kimahesabu , sasa Kama wewe umeshindwa kupambanua Hilo la kusema 3+ 1= 4 wewe ukaambiwa ni 1 na ukakubali basi una matatizo ni bora urudi Shule au uombe mtu akupe tuition.
2. Dhumuni lako na dhumuni la serekali kuhusiana na hili jambo zinatofautiana. Dhilumika la serikali inachotaka ni kuweka hizo hesabu vizuri kutokana na kila moja alivyowekeza lakini wewe sasa sijui ni kwa sababu ya kisiasa au kufaidika na hayo makosa unataka kuona makosa hayo yanatukuzwa au yanaachwa yaendele.
Acha niachie hapa kwa sasa

 

[SHIEKA]

I dont get it, if some regulations were violated all those days, they want either to remedy it or compensated...what is wrong with that?

if they are going to fail during the course that also will be okay at least they tried

we have been always blaming ccm and the govt for corruption contracts all these days....now someone is ON IT...we are coming up with very discouraging statements like this

You know for sure this is not about "tragic failure" it is about your grudges and malice that are hunting you

Man, your views are twisted! If there were some government officials who colluded to swindle the government through airtel shady deals, the solution is to DEAL with those officials NOT negotiating with airtel OK?
Once upon a time you and your friends said Acacia was swindling the government. Instead of taking stern measures against ACACIA you accepted to sit with them on a table. What did you get? No more than warming the seats and banging the tables! CCM way of protecting our resources!

 

[NOD]

Gentleman let’s share your experience if the issue would have been a case in western world! We are to inferior to our own thinking. If we believe the deal was dubious let’s tackle it and see where it will end. Enough is enough we have a lot of contracts which benefits investors and few corrupted bureaucrats just because they can play nicely with contracts. It is high time now we get into it and rescue what is remained. Even if we loose then it will be a clear signal that if you play with contracts you will not come out smiling.Whete on earth an attorney general can mess up with our future and then make joke out of it that what I had out of it is coins! Let’s be serious by starting somewhere and show these suckers that we are awake! This is not a laughing matter as you are trying to demonstrate it. Be serious dude!

It is another morning in a nation where wonders never cease;

Interestingly,Dr.Mpango has said it all;
They are going to the negotiating table to discus the future of Airtel which used to be so many companies,and we all know what usually happens when this regime goes to the negotiating tables,We lose!
It is not yet time but for sure we need results and so far all that we see is some kind of instability.

What are you negotiating with the thieves as you claim,Is it another Makinikia ya Acacia Saga?

Any way All the best on this one,

PBK

 

[Akili Unazo!]

It is another morning in a nation where wonders never cease;

Interestingly,Dr.Mpango has said it all;
They are going to the negotiating table to discus the future of Airtel which used to be so many companies,and we all know what usually happens when this regime goes to the negotiating tables,We lose!
It is not yet time but for sure we need results and so far all that we see is some kind of instability.

What are you negotiating with the thieves as you claim,Is it another Makinikia ya Acacia Saga?

Any way All the best on this one,

PBK

Hata mimi nimeshanga why are You negotiating with Shareholder who does not won any single share to the company?

 

[Deo]

It is another morning in a nation where wonders never cease;

Interestingly,Dr.Mpango has said it all;
They are going to the negotiating table to discus the future of Airtel which used to be so many companies,and we all know what usually happens when this regime goes to the negotiating tables,We lose!
It is not yet time but for sure we need results and so far all that we see is some kind of instability.

What are you negotiating with the thieves as you claim,Is it another Makinikia ya Acacia Saga?

Any way All the best on this one,

PBK

Yes they will share the booty is a common approach

 

[mwengeso]

Well it is a point of discussion,and it is also in my opinion that this will be futile and tragic as we have seen in the previous attempts by this regime to negotiate.I believe JPM as the HOS has to worry more about giving us tangible results instead of mocking himself through his public announcements which end to nothing but disgracing conclusions which negatively affect our country in the eyes of investors both local and foreign.

If you think my attitude is wrong then think twice.Let him prove us wrong on this one and get Airtel back to TTCL if it is all they can and at least we will have something to brag about.

Your thinking is as if you wish you were the President. Being Head of State is more than being a Head of any Instituion on earth, even a family.

You know very little, if not none, about running a state, let alone managing your own affairs, as reflected in your main post and issues you raised above.

Reserve your imaginations within yourself, instead of showing publicly your ignorance.

 

[Cardinal06]

Mnadai Serikali inakurupuka. Sasa naamini viongozi wa upinzani na mashabiki wao, kama wewe, ndio mapapa wa kukurupuka kiakili. Rejea ya makinikia mlivyosema na kulaumu!

Mtu mzima na makini hujenga hoja kwa kutumia taarifa za kweli na siyo hisia zake. Wewe hujui tume ya uchunguzi imegundua nini hadi kushauri kufanyika majadiliano, unakurupuka na hitimisho, du!

Kukurupuka kwa wenye sirikali ni kuja kutuambia kwamba ile kampuni ni yao na ilichukuliwa kiudanganyifu.....maana yake WALISHATHIBITISHA kwamba kampuni hiyo haikubinafsishwa kihalali....ni nn wanaenda kujadili??

 

[Cardinal06]

Hahahahaa
Thanks
But I still have one question, is our law toothless about this issue? Why we are going to negotiate with a thieves?

#I_support, what and why should we NEGOTIATE with the thieves??

 

[msnajo]

Businesses should be allowed to go on without all these disruptions. Anyone who has tried their hand in business will agree with me that keeping a business afloat in a competitive market is already a full time job even without government interference.

Celtel/ Airtel is a done deal and should be left alone. Rome was not built in one day, and neither was it built by one government. Each succesive [Roman] regime took from its predeccesors and moved ahead, not backwards - to purputedly correct historical wrongs. The people who were around during divestiture of celtel from ttcl made decisions that were valid in the circumstances obtaining at that time. They were operating with parameters provided to them and under scrutiny of relevant authorities at that time.

What Tanzania needs is more investment, and not scaring away of potential investors, who are already lookin with horror at what happened to Dangote (USD 500M), Acacia (USD 4B), Bagamoyo Port Project (USD 10B), Central Line Project (USD 7.6B) and now Airtel. FDI is the sweetest thing any country in its right senses will try to attract. It brings in new capital to an economy and kick starts multiplier effects within local industries, creating new demand and exponential economic growth. The sum of the parts is greater than the whole.

Finally, there is nothing to be gained by reattaching Airtel to TTCL. Airtel business will stagnate and suffer a long painful death. TTCL's own capital will be eroded as it tries to keep the newly appropriated company afloat in a very red market.

In such an argument, you will never see porcupines (CCM supporters) arguing anything!!!

 

[shige2]

Kukurupuka kwa wenye sirikali ni kuja kutuambia kwamba ile kampuni ni yao na ilichukuliwa kiudanganyifu.....maana yake WALISHATHIBITISHA kwamba kampuni hiyo haikubinafsishwa kihalali....ni nn wanaenda kujadili??

Tusubiri.

 

[Al-Watan]

Nimeuliza mpaka sasa sijaona jibu.

Nani kasaini makubaliano kwa niaba ya serikali? Kama serikali imetapeliwa, kwa nini waliosaini mikataba kwa niaba ya serikali hawashitakiwi na hawawajibishwi?

 

[gwijimimi]

By the way, what happened to those containers full of 'makinikia' and the promised USD 300 million (kishika uchumba)?

Heheheheheh bongo movie

 

[Egwugu]

Laana za nchi hii pia zitakuwa zinakutafuna na wewe ndo maana umekaa pembeni unachekelea nchi kuzama. Hivi haya anayoyafanya Magufuli leo una uhakika kabisa wewe hayakuhusu wala wanao na vizazi vyao? Nchi hii inapozama una uhakika wewe utasalimika na ukoo wenu wote? kwamba JPM akifeli/kufanikiwa wewe na ukoo wako hamguswi?

Kwamba faida ikipatikana itapelekwa kwao na JPM wakale miaka yote yeye na ukoo wake tu? Huu ni uchizi wa kupitiliza, unaweza ukawa usimpende mtu akiwa hai lakini akifa ukampenda wala haishangazi. Kwani JPM yuko pale kwa ajiri/niaba ya kijiji gani eti labda tufahamishe na utwambie ni nani rais wa Tz na nini maana yake