African Satellite World and Sat Gear

African Satellite World and Sat Gear

Ras Kush said:
Download the extracted .bin file here
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just out of curiosity(and laziness becoz i don't want to google),can the technical gurus in this forum please explain: in the above scenario,what is the difference between H/W(hardware i assume)S/W(software i assume) and F/W(Firmware i assume)?what is the most important element when updating using a bin file like the one you have attached because it appears it can be used to update different receivers.also i have seen some posts in this forum about tiger clones(or gsky) being updated using software meant for the originals.For example is the powervu version in a particular receiver under H/W,S/W or F/W?is the appearance of the screen menus and layouts determined(or controlled) by the firmware or software?Also most of the chinese receivers today use sunplus chips(or is it ali?)- where we have 1502,1503,1505A,B,1506 G,C and so on.can softwares(or firmwares) be updated across these chipsets?
 
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essao said:
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just out of curiosity(and laziness becoz i don't want to google),can the technical gurus in this forum please explain: in the above scenario,what is the difference between H/W(hardware i assume)S/W(software i assume) and F/W(Firmware i assume)?what is the most important element when updating using a bin file like the one you have attached because it appears it can be used to update different receivers.for example is the powervu version in a particular receiver under H/W,S/W or F/W?is the appearance of the screen menus and layouts determined(or controlled) by the firmware or software?Also most of the chinese receivers today use sunplus chips(or is it ali?)- where we have 1502,1503,1505A,B,1506 G,C and so on.can softwares(or firmwares) be updated across these chipsets?
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H/W; Hardware. What you can see and touch eg the decoder mother board, processor (chipset/cpu) and external hardware like wifi dongles.

Firmware; the basic program that sets rules on how the hardware operates eg when a button is pushed, the unit goes on or off. Detection of peripheral devices like wifi dongles, USB flash drives and harddrives etc
It's the firmware that sets basic rules of interaction between these hardware.
If you mess with firmware, it'll be too bad for you.

Software is generally used to refer to secondary programs that run in a unit. a) Operating software sets the overall environment under which other software operate in most decoders its LINUX operating software. It's Android in your phone
b) application software; runs on the operating software and is used to execute specific applications eg ccam or iptv in a decoder (these are what are called apps in phones)
PowerFu is not a software. Its an encryption logic. (But of course youll need an application software to run that logic - the security application)

Encryption system or security application is just another application that runs in the LINUX OS environment. Thats why you can have several encryption systems being run in a box. It can be flushed and replaced with latest versions of the application that can read for example powerfu broadcast.

Lastly many phones use similar chips eg techno and infinix use mediatek . but you cannot just flush a tecno and install infinix firmware in it. Because of the slight difference in hardware designs

I stand to be corrected.
 
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essao said:
Thanks for the succinct explanation.so when i read in this forum about tiger and gsky clones being updated using their software,the software (S/W) part is the same despite there being differences in F/W and H/W?
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You see Chinese are the biggest technology pirates (that's why trump has been complaining loudly that Chinese are stealing their technology)
A German company for example designs a decoder with its hardware, firmware and all software and takes the concept to China for manufacturing.

That's where Chinese catch them. They steal the firmware, hardware and other software designs and make their own products under different brands offcourse with inferior material for the hardware. So most of these Chinese variant brands are basically the same thing under different plastic casing. And offcourse a firmware for the original product will be able to run in a clone if hardware of a clone is exact same design as the original albeit being constructed using inferior material.

There are no significant differences in the underlying hardware and firmware btn the clone and the original product and thats why they're interoperable

The Operating Software is widely the same; LINux its 'open source' and anyone can use it like android
 
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freq said:
You see Chinese are the biggest technology pirates (that's why trump has been complaining loudly that Chinese are stealing their technology)
A German company for example designs a decoder with its hardware, firmware and all software and takes the concept to China for manufacturing.

That's where Chinese catch them. They steal the firmware, hardware and other software designs and make their own products under different brands offcourse with inferior material for the hardware. So most of these Chinese variant brands are basically the same thing under different plastic casing. And offcourse a firmware for the original product will be able to run in a clone if hardware of a clone is exact same design as the original albeit being constructed using inferior material.

There are no significant differences in the underlying hardware and firmware btn the clone and the original product and thats why they're interoperable

The Operating Software is widely the same; LINux its 'open source' and anyone can use it like android
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in the receivers given by Ras Kush the H/W seems different for one of them yet they will use the same S/W bin file.I am asking all these because i am afraid one of these days an ASAS bout of madness might make me hook an RS 232 cable to my Chinese receiver and use what they call an UART tool to attempt an upgrade on it.i dont want to start crying 'serikali saidia, iingilia kati' later🙂🙂🙂
 
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essao said:
in the receivers given by Ras Kush the H/W seems different for one of them yet they will use the same S/W bin file.I am asking all these because i am afraid one of these days an ASAS bout of madness might make me hook an RS 232 cable to my cihinese receiver and use what they call an UART tool to attempt an upgrade on it.i dont want to start crying 'serikali saidia, iingilia kati' later🙂🙂🙂
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Kush must have done his research and found out the hardware eg the mother board installed in those decoders are copy cats despite being built differently and thats why one firmware can update them both.. I hope so.
 
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Kush must have done his research and found out the hardware eg the mother board installed in those decoders are copy cats despite being built differently and thats why one firmware can update them both.. I hope so.
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In most of the above information you are right, but most manufacturers embed a signature to "deny/block" interoperability of software across decoders, this is to shield their market and "R&D" . Usually clones are not compatible with the original stb firmwares.
 
Are all diseqc switches on luthuli prone to 'frying' in the same way or are some more 'robust' than others?i bought a eurostar switch at riwara and there was a short-circuit in my wiring-before i could say 'fry' the switch was smoking and smelling like burning goat hooves.Before i replace it, are there diseqc switches that are more 'tolerant' to brief shortcircuits than others?
 
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how watchable is the hornsat pak at 76.5e?someone was complaining about the resolution.is it worth climbing the roof for?
 
Any one getting 3853R9664 Zambian MUX on 8w? Some tps on this sat are 94% but this tp remains red on my 1.8m. Is it active?
 
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how watchable is the hornsat pak at 76.5e?someone was complaining about the resolution.is it worth climbing the roof for?
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It's 78 not 76.5. hornsat action movies great classic action movies not very good but watchable quality. Other channels have pixels the size of maize grain
 
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