MzalendoHalisi
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Visiwani wakianchwa wenyewe ni taabu tu tupu!
Hizi chuki zinavyumilika ndani ya Muungano na sii tofauti!
Kosa kubwa alilolifanya Marehemu Mzee Karume ni Kuchukuwa Nchi ya Watu Waungwana na Kuwaunganyisha na Watu wasio na Utaratibu wowote. Kwa kosa hilo alilolifanya Karume akiwa sio raia wa Zanzibar leo kwa kipindi kirefu limeleta Maumivu makubwa sana kwa Wazanzibari kwani hivi sasa wamekuwa ni Dhaifu mbele ya Watanganyika.
Zanzibar ilikuwa ni Nchi Kamili ikiwa na KITI chake UN na ikijiongoza kwa kuwahudumia watu wake kwa kila fani kuanzia Elimu, Afya, Ajira na hatukupata Kusikia katika Historia kuwa WAZANZIBARI Walikuwa Omba Omba walijimudu kwa kila kitu, na ndio maana wa wakati huo walisema ZUMARI LIKIPULIZWA ZANZIBAR WALIO KATIKA MAZIWA MAKUU WANACHEZAAA, haya haya kuwa maneno ya mchezo Wakicheza kweli na ndio ikwa sehemu ya HUSUDA Kwa Zanzibar hasa kwa wale waliokuwa na chuki kwa watu wa VISIWA, walijaribu na kufanikiwa kuingiza siasa za Chuki na Fitina na Mwishowe Mgeni kutoka KONGO (KARUME) Akajinyakulia Nchi Njema na kuitumbukiza katika Tanuri la Moto la MUUNGANO.
Hebu iachieni na Muuone kwani hizio sababu za Kijinga kuwa Watauuwana kati ya Unguja na Pemba zinaukweli gani? Waliouwa watu wa Visiwa hivi wapatao 13000 ni kutoka bara na Waliletwa na Julius Nyerere, Kambona, John Rupia, Rashid Kawawa, hawa ndio Waandalizi wa Mapinduzi ya Mauaji kwa Zanzibar, nani asie juwa kama hamjui tunakujuilisheni kuwa Kilichotokea Zanzibar tarehe 12.1.1964 sio MAPINDUZI NI MAVAMIZI yaliosimamiwa na JULIUS NYERERE akimtumia MKONGO ABEID KARUME na WATANGANYIKA na ndio maana wakatunzwa kuwa MEMBA WA BARAZA LA MAPINDUZI LA MWANZO nao ni
ABDALLAH SAID NATEPE
KANAL SEIF BAKARI
HASSAN NASSOR MOYO
JOHN OKELLO
SAID WASHOTO
KHAMIS DARWESHI
KHAMIS HEMEDI NYUNI
ABDULLA KASSIM HANGA
SALEH SADALLA
ABDUL AZIZ TWALA
MAVAMIZI ya Zanzibar ni Uchafu mtupu na ni udhalimu wa hali ya juu kwa Taifa Dogo lililokuwa likiendelea kwa Kasi dhidi ya TAIFA Kubwa lilokuwa halina DIRA WALA MUELEKEO matokeo yake ni haya tunayoyaona na kuyashuhudia hivi sasa.
ZANZIBAR IACHWE PEKE YAKE NA MUUONE TENA ZUMARI LITAKAVYO PULIZWA MTACHEZA NYOTE
Tupatie tafiti zako zinazopingana na hoja za Malyamkono.
"But according to the authors of the book, there is no denying that
it is Zanzibar that needs the union the most.
Maliyamkono warns that dissolution of the union would be
economically disastrous to Zanzibar."
Huo ni upotoshaji wa hali ya juu. Anataka kutuaminisha kuwa Zanzibar haiwezi kusimama peke yake kama Taifa bila kuwa ndani ya Muungano? Du! I can not buy that idea. Hata kama mimi ni mtu wa bara I believe for sure that Maendeleo ya Zanzibar yamecheleweshwa kwa kuwa ndani ya Muungano. Kadri umaskini unavyoongezeka bara ndivyo unavyosambaa mpaka visiwani. Mbona visiwa vya sychelles na Mauritius vina mazingira kama ya Zanzibar havijaungana na nchi yoyote na bado vinapeta kuichumi? Tafiti zingine hufanywa kuwaridhisha wale waliowapa tenda ya kufanya hizo utafiti. Tusichukulie tafiti for granted lazima ziwe subjected to scrutine.
Social issues hazina jibu la 1+1=2. Ndio maana tafiti zinaweza kutoa mwelekeo fulani tofauti na kinachoendelea on the ground au kitakachotokea hapo baadaye.
Mawazo ya kilevi! Kama mnywa tende vile!..ikiwezekana kitabu hicho kitumike mashuleni, kwenye madrasa,sunday school, jando, unyago, etc etc
You are simply wrong! Research leads to innovations and hence development. Without innovations, there's no development. And without research, it's unlikely that you will design a good policy. A policy that relies on "belief" ,like the way you want it to be, are in many cases ineffective. Mfano mzuri ni hili suala la Zanzibar. Wakati baadhi ya watu (including you) wanaamini kuwa uchumi wa Zanzibar unadidimia kwa sababu ya muungano, utafiti umeonesha kuwa Zanzibar will be worse off if it secedes from the union. Kila mtu dunia ya leo anataka kuungana from EU to SADC to NAFTA. Zanzibar inataka kujitenga. Ninaamini utafiti huu utasaidia watunga sera wetu kujua ni nini cha kufanya. Malyamkono amefanya kazi ya kutambua na kuthaminisha faida na hasara. Kazi iliyobaki ni kutafsiri huu utafiti katika sera. Kama Zanzibar wanataka kujitenga, basi na wapewe haki yao. Ila ni vyema wakaelezwa faida na hasara zitakazoambatana na uamuzi.
Kila nikisoma posts za wadau ninazidi kugundua kuwa hili suala limegubikwa na ushabiki ama kutokutaka kuamini nguvu ya tafiti. Mfano, mdau mmoja anadai kuwa "free port" ya Zanzibar itaua bandari zote za Bara. I didn't get it. Ina maana nchi ambazo hazina bandari (landlocked countries) zitapitishia mizigo yao Zanzibar? Yaani Rwanda ipitishie mizigo yake Zanzibar?
Ndugu nafanya kazi kwenye sekta ya utafiti hivyo hiyo biashara naijua sana. Ni kweli pale kunapokuwepo na objectivity kwenye process nzima ya kufanya utafiti na hata wakati wa kutoa results objectivity ikatawala hapo basi tafiti hizo zikifanyiwa kazi huweza kuleta maendeleo. Ninaposabject to scrutine report ya Malyamkono ni kwa sababu conclusion yake imelenga kupigilia msumali kuwa Zanzibar piga ua haiwezi kujiendesha yenyewe pasipo msaada wa bara kitu ambacho sicho. Yeye anatupatia tu worst case senario na wala hatupatii any best case senario. Kuungana kwa nchi ni kweli nchi zinaungana lakini kuungana huko si kwa kulazimishana au kukomoana. Ndio maana Uingereza pamoja na kuwa ndani ya EU lakini maamuzi yao ya kubaki na Pound yaliheshimiwa. Montenegro baada ya kuona kuwa umoja wake na Serbia haulipi basi waliamua kujitoa na Serbia ili waruhusi watoke ili kutafta namna nzuri ya kushirikiana. Zanzibar wakitoka wanaweza kutafuta namna nyingine ya kushirikiana kuliko mfumo uliopo ambao wanaona unawabana
Objectivity? Una maana gani? Conclusion should flow directly from the results, which in turn stem from the methodology. Sasa wewe unaona hii ripoti haifai kwasababu matokeo yake ni tofauti na unachoamini wewe. Again, this is wrong! Lengo la utafiti wa Malyamkono (kama utafiti mwingine wowote) ni kutafuta majawabu ya kisayansi kwa matatizo yanayoikabili jamii, na si "kupigilia msumari" hoja kuwa Zanzibar haiwezi kujitegemea. Kumpinga Malyamkono, fanya utafiti, subject it to the peer review and conclude that Malyamkono was wrong. Na unasema wewe ni mtafiti. You sound like a politician dude!
Ovyooo kabisa mkinambia kwa kazi hii ndo amekuwa Prof. ntajinyonga nife.
Mai Broda,usisahau kwamba muungano ukivunjika tu chances are wapemba watachinjwa kama kuku,na maskini sijui watakimbilia wapi.
Visiwani ni mzigo mkubwa sana kwa Bara na hii inajulikana kwa siku nyingi!
Yet Visiwani hawaachi bado kulalamika na kulia lia kila siku!
Sasa komoro nao wanaomba kujiunga na bara..sasa sijui mizigo yote ya Zanzibar na Komoro- je bara wataweza?
..utafiti uliofanywa na Prof.Teddy Malyamkono na wasomi wenzake umebaini kwamba Zanzibar ni mzigo mkubwa kwa wa-Tanganyika.
..ningeshauri kila Mtanganyika asome kitabu cha Prof.Maliyamkono.
..ikiwezekana kitabu hicho kitumike mashuleni, kwenye madrasa,sunday school, jando, unyago, etc etc
I find no wrong for a tanzania to claim i am zanzibarian, like the one who claims i am sukuma or haya. I found no wrong for a zanzibarian to question about their participation in state power, like Tanzania who blame CCM for being unfair in political landscape.
There is no strange for a male to claim his a male and woman to claim her gender identity. We all identify ourself of who we are, things which are familiar to us. It is our interaction which define the other, and of course the self when lives and internalize the otherness it take it reality forms.
The problem of the union is not personal, rather it has been created with fear among our leaders of what zanzibar is and what it could became, and so terror and denial of its sovereignty has taken different form.
It is a reality which need to be corrected
PH:Maneno yako ni mazito na yana ukweli. Lakini sehemu kubwa inayotusumbua hapa ni umasikini.
Nakwambia sio lazima nifanye utafiti ndipo niweze kutoa maoni yangu kwenye report. Uelewa, uzoefu, mapungufu katika riport kwenye methodology n.k. vinaweza kunipa uwezo wa kuhoji kile kilichokuwa presented. Ingekuwa kwamba kila mtu anatakiwa aingie kwenye field kufanya tafiti na kuleta majibu ndipo atoe maoni yake kwenye report basi kwenye semina hakuna mtu ambaye ange comment tofauti na matokeo ya utafiti.
Pia kumbuka kwenye social issues hakuna 1+1=2. It is very difficult to replecate the findings. Nikienda Zanzibar kufanya utafiti na kuwahoji watu wale wale naweza kuja na conclusion tofauti na waliyokuja nayo akina malyamkono. Hivyo hata jibu langu laweza kuwa sahihi.