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The fact: Osama is dead, who doubts?

Discussion in 'Jamii Intelligence' started by KAMBOTA, May 8, 2011.

  1. K

    KAMBOTA Senior Member

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    By Nova Kambota,
    I just hear that there are some people who question about Osama’s death, a lot of critics around the world against Obama, people think that this may be political propaganda by Obama to win the election next year, but why should people doubt? Do these opposers have reason to doubt?
    There are number of questions we need to ask ourselves before we come to conclusion, first who killed Osama? Second Why now? Third is it a political techinique? Fourth who is behind this matter? And fifth Is there any reason to doubt this matter?
    To start with who killed Osama? Before we go to this lets move back one step, Is Osama dead? Yes Osama is dead and USA is responsible for this death. Many scholars agree that there is abundant evidence that Osama was once trained by CIA yes It is the same Osama who was used to fight againt Russia, the same Osama alongside with Mulla Muhamed Omar are the one who established the so called “the terrible Taleban rule in Afighanstan” therefore there is no doubt that USA knows in and out of Osama, yes Osama can hide nothing from Obama na USA.
    The other question is why now? All the Arabic world is under a great pressure of Revolution starting from Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Bahrain, Syria and the rest. USA is behind all that happens in Arabic countries and who can argue against the truth that to most Americans terrorism is more defined on Arabic context rather than real sense probably yes Arabs are terrorists but not all just few of them therefore in such situation USA intends to weaken Arabs and probably muslims all over the world, all that goes on in Arabic world is a victory to USA and Obama and a defeat to Arabic leaders and muslim fundamentalists who are totally against USA military activities in Islamic countries now to prove her strength and imperial glory over Arabs USA has decided to kill Osama at this very moment when the arabs are busy with implanted endless revolution.
    Is it a political techinique? It is difficult to say either it is or not, probably to Obama is part of his duty and just fulfillment of what he promised to do despite this, yet still we can’t doubt the truth that Osama’s death paves way for Obama to win the election next year, Obama’s popularity was serious going down but now the move has changed all Americans praise Obama for killing Osama.
    The are number of reasons behind Osama’s death but one which sounds more logically than the rest is that at first Osama’s activities based on anti-American military activities in Arabic countries with this Osama got support from Arabs but when Osama channeled to religious reasons claiming that he was fighting to protect the muslims and that he did everything as directed by the holy kuran , the Americans did not let this be accepted , they used the same chance to ask the rest of muslims in the world if Islamic supports terrorism and the answer was a big NO! with this situation the rest is history, thus the muslims started to give secret informations about Osama and probably betray him thus leading to his death on 2nd May this year.
    Now why many people doubt this? Are there reasons to doubt? Indeed there are strong reasons to doubt, but this can well be explained by how secretly the matter has been carried out, why Osama’s pictures are not shown? Why Osama was buried on sea? These are questions that rise doubts. But many people forget that this matter is of more military and intelligence rather than political ,now why should people judge it on political basis? Don’t they think that USA did not want to disturb what happens in Arabic countries? Or burying Osama on earth would lead to establishment of terrorist centre? Where his followers could gather together and plan their attacks against USA? If we revisit our memory to what happened to American soldiers in Iraq following releasing of the pictures showing Saddam Hussein is hanged, the action angered the arabs and they killed a lot of American soldiers in Iraq, now don’t people think that USA has learnt from this? Despite the fact that up to now Obama has not yet said why he doesn’t want the pictures and videos that show Osama’s death to be shown but suspicious linger that this might be a strong reason.
    All in all there are some few people who can do their propaganda here and there by using Osama’s name but let the truth be said, that is Osama Bin Laden Is Dead and terrorism shall at least be lowered down and once again USA has proved to be the superpower of the world and thus terrorism has no place in the civilized world.......Now think critically on this!

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    wa UDOM Member

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    free masons!!
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    ndetichia JF-Expert Member

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    ndefu mno mzee...
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    GUD JOB, thnnks for the facts:israel:
  5. AshaDii

    AshaDii Platinum Member

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    Pleeeease!!! I like your perspective but you have given it in a way that what you know is the absolute truth.....

    For instance your paragraph which is black bolded.... Kambota what makes you think the US knew Osama in and out? It has taken US millions of American lives, Millions of dollars and abundance of terrorist related experts, ten years of time and the most important a possible failure in Obama's reelection in 2012 for Bin Laden to be caught and killed - All this for one man and you claim they knew the man ??? I do not agree for me to accept justify further....

    The bolded purple perspective is almost true and it makes me a little confused as in do you know the real reason the US is interfering ... for instance in Libya. If i have not misunderstood you do know that what Obama is doing is in the benefits of the the US but not these attacked, your thread inaonesha the US are always concerned for the US no matter what! - hence are you saying you support this???

    The bolded blue.. This matter concerns all of us... we are in a world of Globalisation... No matter which way you put it I can not agree (and thats infinetly) Justifying that it does not concern us, or the world or the US citizens who had lost their loved ones in the 9/11 attacks... If it did not concern us but the Millitary intelligence then why announce about the attacks and with triumph at that... Why not show his pictures, what is so speacial about the pictures ... Why not persecute Bin Laden for he world to see that finally the culprit has been caught... You are talking of Saddam, YES there was no need of showing him live while being killed but the world saw, the world witnessed that he was caught which left no doubt that he will be killed for that was what US wanted.. You say its not political??? Are you serious?? Kambota please you have to do better than that..

    The Red bolded.. If you honestly think or believe just because Bin Laden is dead US has lowered terrorism.... Think again...

    And that Kambota is my critical thinking...
  6. myao wa tunduru

    myao wa tunduru JF-Expert Member

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    watu hawadoubt kifo cha osama bali ya aina ya kifo chake....!alifariki,aliuawa au alijiua?ni sawa na kusema marehemu amefariki!
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    data JF-Expert Member

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    nipatie miwani waiiffff... nisomme kizangeliiii
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    crome20 JF-Expert Member

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    Yes but full of credible massage
  9. AshaDii

    AshaDii Platinum Member

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    Justify.... although i do agree with your signature...
  10. i411

    i411 JF-Expert Member

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    I doubts for few reasons
    i)hakuna mwili wake tuliouona
    ii)No forensic analysis done by third parties and witness
    iii)DNA testing ya haraka haraka atlist take 18hrs matokeo tuliopewa yalipatikana mda mdogo zaidi kwahiyo walitudanganya
    Watu wengi wanaamini Osama ndiye gaidi wa 9/11 serikali yeyote ingekuwa na huo mwiliwake logicaly wangewaakikishia dunia kwamaba huyu gaidi kufuru amekufa kabisa bila doubt. Obama gave us many doubts in the story of Osamas death and the story events keep changing from the officials, logical this means the story it's not true.
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    Tata JF-Expert Member

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    Whether or not the dude is dead is irrelevant for us. We have so many problems confronting us from all angles that it is a wastage of time to think of the death of someone in Pakistan.
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    i411 JF-Expert Member

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    Its lie that's what we are refusing to accept he died last month without documentation. Everyone knows now Osama is dead, probably for many years, but why announcing he was killed last month and no third parties like journalist witnessing even a single proof of his death.
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    Sharo hiphop JF-Expert Member

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    thanx bro! Da issue is just nt the death of kaka osama but the problem is why did they fail to reveal the reallity, we want 2 prove it.
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    Sambwisi Senior Member

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    Yes, independent proof is required, otherwise it is merely a propaganda for Obama's re-election campain.
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    Sijali JF-Expert Member

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    Simplistic, good for feeble minded people!
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    Obama ni wa chama cha Democrats, kama ingekua ni mbinu za kampeni angepingwa vibaya na kuumbuliwa dakika moja tu na Republicans wasingemwacha hata sekunde moja na vile m-black asingefikisha hata saa moja baada ya kutangaza habari za kuuwawa kwa Osama, nimeona kwenye news ex Vice President Dick Chiney akimpomgeza Obama, pia Congressmen wameoneshwa ushahidi wa picha tayari.
    Inasemekana watoto wake walikua wakilalamika kutopewa maiti ya baba yao, kama ni vinginevyo wange dai hivyo?
    Pointi ingine, jee hao walioanza kulipiza kisasi huko Pakistan nao wangefanya hivyo ? Hayo ni maswali ya kujiuliza! Zaidi ni hili la Republicans wamwache Obama hivi hivi na "UJIKO" huu wakati kipindi cha kampeni za Urais zinakaribia, inaingia akilini hapo wakuu kweli?
    Waangalieni CCM na CDM wanatafuta kosa hata tone la mchanga waumbuane... Jee Republicans watamwacha M-democrat Obama apande chat hivi hivi kweli ?
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    yuxygaxy Member

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    Jaman I have a question,KWA MFANO UKIONYESHWA PICHA YA OSAMA AKIWA AMEKUFA,UTAPROVE VIPI KWAMBA NDIO YEYE? 4me,nikiulizwa kama Osama amekufa au yuko hai ntajibu hivi,SIJUI. coz there z only comfusion,no fact! anayesema amekufa atoe pruv isiyokuwa na doubt,na anayesema yuko hai atoe pruv isiyokuwa na doubt,na si mawazo binafsi.
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    Ami JF-Expert Member

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    Mod naomba futa hii au changanya na ile Osama bin Laden killed !.Tusitumie muda wetu vibaya bure.
    Haina jipya lolote na inajadili upuuzi wa kifo cha Osama kuliko kuhoji ukweli wa tukio.
    Iwapo itapigwa kura kote duniani ya iwapo Osama kauliwa na Obama?.Basi nina hakika zaidi ya 80% watasema NO.Kwa hivyo mjadala ungekwenda zaidi kujadili kwa nini US imeamua kuongopa kuhusu kifo cha Osama na si vyenginevyo.

    De Jav hapo juu Amerika kuhusu maslahi ya kitaifa ni kama nchi ya chama kimoja.Ukiangalia mipango ya maraisi wa vyama vyote na tabia zao mbaya kwa binadamu wengine utajua wanafuata maelekezo mamoja.Anavyofanya Obama ndivyo alivyofanya Bush na ndivyo alivyofanya Clinton.

    WISDOM SEEDS JF-Expert Member

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    Kwani hapa issue ni alikufaje au? Mbona sielewi!
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    FaizaFoxy JF-Expert Member

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    Osama kafa miaka mingi kabla ya Obama kujidai kaamuwa auliwe. Fumbo mfumbie mjinga babu wee.