Sayansi yafanya mambo yake tena!!! Mungu yuko wapi?

[MaxShimba]

Kuondoa confusion, unaweza kuleta direct quotes hapa? JF ina records zote, quote tu, sema uliandiuka hivi, umeulizwa hivi, hujajibu.

Mimi nikiamua kurudia posts zangu kuorodhesha maswali ambayo umeyakimbia bila kuyajibu utapata aibu hapa.

Astakafulah, kumbe weye una short memory! Yaani unadai kuwa hukusema hayo, pinga kwanza halafu nikutoe nishai mbele ya kadamnasi hapa JF.

 

[MaxShimba]

Yeyote anayeumba system na ku lay out all the configurations for that system yuko responsible kwa hiyo system.

Unakubali au unakataa?

God did not create evil. Ndio maana nikakwambia lete ushaidi wa mambo ya Somalia kama ulivyo dai kuwa ni Mungu amefanya. UMESHINDWA KULETA USHAIDI.

Halafu unakuja na kugeneralize kuwa eti, Mungu yupo responsible, hivi huwa unakumbuka unayo sema weye?

 

[Kiranga]

Kwanini unachanganya na kuunganisha evil na uumbaji wa dunia? Evil kama ulivyo sema wewe hapa, nani aliumba au alianzisha au ana-asili ya evil?

Mungu.

Kwa mujibu wa waumini, mungu aliumba ulimwengu na vyote vilivyomo. Hakuna kinachotokea duniani leo ambacho hakijaumbwa na mungu.

Hata ukisema evil ni zao la shetani, nitakuuliza shetani kaumbwa na nani? N a hiyo potentiality ya kufikiria evil shetani angeipata wapi kama kweli mungu ni muumba wa vyote?

Kama mungu angetaka, uwezo wa evil kufikirika usingekuwepo, kwa mwanadamu au kiumbe kingine chochote.

Swali.

Kwa nini mungu aliruhusu evil iwe conceivable kama aliweza kuumba ulimwengu bila evil?

Ukisema aliweza kuumba ulimwengu usio evil, lakini akaumba huu nitasema hatupendi.

Ukisema anatupenda, nitasema hakuwa na uwezo wa kuumba ulimwengu usio evil basi.

Yote mawili hayaruhusu an all knowledgeable, all powerful, all/ max loving god.

 

[Darwin]

Ha ha ha ha

Kwanza ulikuja na mambo ya center, nikakuuliza wapi ni center, ukakimbia.

Pili ukaja na mambo ya magonjwa na tabu et al, nikakuuliza na kukuomba ulete ushaidi kuwa hayo ni matakwa ya Mungu, UKAKIMBIA.

Tatu ukadai kuwa hakuna Mungu, Nikakwambia saidia MADAI YAKO, UKAKIMBIA,

Nne, ukarudia maswali yako kwa kuchomekea Somalia na tuvipicha, nikakwambia lete ushaidi KUWA MUNGU KAFANYA HAYO, UKAKIMBIA,

Zaidi ya hapo nikasema, najuwa utakimbia na kuleta maswali mengi, jinsi ulivyo pngwn, ukafanya hivyo hivyo nilivyo sema.

Sasa, weye kweli zipo kamili kichwani mwako?

Doedoe hebu toa ufafanunuzi wa hii kabla hujajibu maswali unayokwepa kila ukiulizwa

(Rom. 5:12) Watu walipatwa na maafa Haiti na kwingineko walikua watu wazima na watoto.

Watoto walimkosea nini Mungu?

 

[MaxShimba]

Doedoe hebu toa ufafanunuzi wa hii kabla hujajibu maswali unayokwepa kila ukiulizwa

(Rom. 5:12) Watu walipatwa na maafa Haiti na kwingineko walikua watu wazima na watoto.

Watoto walimkosea nini Mungu?

Nenda Sunday school. Sipo hapa kufundisha religion 101.

 

[MaxShimba]

Hata ukisema evil ni zao la shetani, nitakuuliza shetani kaumbwa na nani?

Mungu hakuumba Shetani.

 

[MaxShimba]

N a hiyo potentiality ya kufikiria evil shetani angeipata wapi kama kweli mungu ni muumba wa vyote?

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I am not here for the Shaytan. You may ask shaytan that. God did not create evil, inter-alia, evil does not exist in God, ingawa Mungu anakuwa kuhusu evil.

 

[Darwin]

Nenda Sunday school. Sipo hapa kufundisha religion 101.

????????? Naunachohutubia hapa ni sayansi? au ni miujiza na uongo wa Sheikh Yahya?

 

[MaxShimba]

Kama mungu angetaka, uwezo wa evil kufikirika usingekuwepo, kwa mwanadamu au kiumbe kingine chochote.

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God gave mankind freewill. Mungu halazimishi. You decide what you want, you get answers from your decisions.

 

[Kiranga]

Astakafulah, kumbe weye una short memory! Yaani unadai kuwa hukusema hayo, pinga kwanza halafu nikutoe nishai mbele ya kadamnasi hapa JF.

Wewe hata hiyo short memory huna. Huna memory at all. Kitu unakisoma sekunde moja, ya pili kishayeyuka.

Nimekwambia lete quotes, surely grabbing my post and quoting it back to me, preferrably with the post number, is not that hard.

But then again for impaired people with no memory like you, I wouldn't know how much of a challenge this is.

Unaweza kushindwa kunipa quote ya kuniumbua hata baada ya mimi kukupa nafasi hiyo.

Mimi sitaki kujibu maneno yangu kama yanavyotafsiriwa na wewe, kwa sababu sijui kama ubongo wako unazidi wa mjusi.

Nipe maneno yangu mwenyewe hapa.

 

[MaxShimba]

????????? Naunachohutubia hapa ni sayansi? au ni miujiza na uongo wa Sheikh Yahya?

Sipo hapa kutoa khutbha. Kuhusu Sheikh Yahaya Whosain, kawaulize muham-madans.

 

[Darwin]

I am not here for the Shaytan. You may ask shaytan that. God did not create evil, inter-alia, evil does not exist in God, ingawa Mungu anakuwa kuhusu evil.

Naona hapa unaanza kumkimbia shetani!!! Sayari zimeumbwa na Mungu, Doedoe ameumbwa na Mungu na Shetani pia ameumbwa na Mungu.
NOTE: Mnasema God is Love!!!

 

[MaxShimba]

Wewe hata hiyo short memory huna. Huna memory at all. Kitu unakisoma sekunde moja, ya pili kishayeyuka.

Nimekwambia lete quotes, surely grabbing my post and quoting it back to me, preferrably with the post number, is not that hard.

But then again for impaired people with no memory like you, I wouldn't know how much of a challenge this is.

Unaweza kushindwa kunipa quote ya kuniumbua hata baada ya mimi kukupa nafasi hiyo.

Mimi sitaki kujibu maneno yangu kama yanavyotafsiriwa na wewe, kwa sababu sijui kama ubongo wako unazidi wa mjusi.

Nipe maneno yangu mwenyewe hapa.

Yakwanza hii hapa, NIJIBU. UKISHA LETA JIBU, NITALETA YA PILI NA KUENDELEA.

What you are saying is the gist of my problem. Kwa nini mungu aruhusu maumivu na majaribu in the first place?

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This is my reply: Haya endelea kujiabisha.

Wapi panasema Mungu karuhusu? Stop talking junks. You need a shrink..

 

[MaxShimba]

Naona hapa unaanza kumkimbia shetani!!! Sayari zimeumbwa na Mungu, Doedoe ameumbwa na Mungu na Shetani pia ameumbwa na Mungu.
NOTE: Mnasema God is Love!!!

The devil is in you. He scared of me.

 

[Kiranga]

God gave mankind freewill. Mungu halazimishi. You decide what you want, you get answers from your decisions.

If god gave mankind freewill, he wouldn't be able to figure out if I was going to take the righ or left turn on a road fork.

The assertion that "god knows my life even before I am born" removes my freewill.

If god has perfect knowledge of my future actions, by virtue of him being god and therefore infallible, I have no freewill.

If I have free will, this means god does not know what I will do, and therefore means god does not have perfect knowledge.

God cannot have perfect knowledge and at the same time, have humans maintaining freewill.

It is either one or the other.

If god has perfect knowledge, then humans do not have freewill.

If humans do have freewill, then god does not have perfect knowledge.

You cannot eat your cake, and still have it.

 

[MaxShimba]

Shetani pia ameumbwa na Mungu.
NOTE: Mnasema God is Love!!!

Lete USHAIDI kuwa Mungu ameumba Shaiytan. Nataka ushaidi wa Biblia kama unavyo dai kwenye quote yako.

 

[MaxShimba]

If god gave mankind freewill, he wouldn't be able to figure out if I was going to take the righ or left turn on a road fork.

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Sasa hiyo ina uhusiano gani na freewill? If God knows your end, what has that to do with your choices?

 

[MaxShimba]

If god gave mankind freewill, he wouldn't be able to figure out if I was going to take the righ or left turn on a road fork.

The assertion that "god knows my life even before I am born" removes my freewill.

If god has perfect knowledge of my future actions, by virtue of him being god and therefore infallible, I have no freewill.

If I have free will, this means god does not know what I will do, and therefore means god does not have perfect knowledge.

God cannot have perfect knowledge and at the same time, have humans maintaining freewill.

It is either one or the other.

If god has perfect knowledge, then humans do not have freewill.

If humans do have freewill, then god does not have perfect knowledge.

You cannot eat your cake, and still have it.

Jibu post yangu number 173.

 

[Kiranga]

Yakwanza hii hapa, NIJIBU. UKISHA LETA JIBU, NITALETA YA PILI NA KUENDELEA.


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This is my reply: Haya endelea kujiabisha.

Mungu kama grand architect wa dunia hii (kwa mujibu wenu) tena architect mwenye knowledge yote na uwezo wote na upendo wote, ultimately yuko responsible kwa kila kitu. Hata ukisema evil (mabaya) ni zao la shetani, nitakuuliza huyo shetani kaumbwa na nani? na wazo la ubaya liliruhusiwa na nani kuwapo kabla hata ya shetani kuliwaza?

Either mungu alirliruhusu (wazo la ubaya), au kama mungu hakuliruhusu lakini lipo basi mungu si muumba vyote.

Kazini kwangu, kama wewe ni software engineer, una design software, halafu hiyo software ikaja kuwa na matatizo, wewe uliye design unakuwa na responsibility ya kujibu kwa nini hii system yako ina bugs.

Vivyo hivyo, mungu, si tu kama grand architect wa ulimwengu, bali pia architect mwenye uwezo na ujuzi na upendo wote, ningemtegemea a design ulimwengu ambao watoto hawawezi kufa kama nzi kama wanavyokufa Somalia au walivyokufa Haiti.

Swali langu ambalo halijajibiwa.

Kwa nini mungu ambaye aliweza kutengeneza ulimwengu ambao hauna evil, katengeneza ulimwengu ambao una evil?

Sijajibiwa hili swali bado.

 

[MaxShimba]

Mungu kama grand architect wa dunia hii (kwa mujibu wenu) tena architect mwenye knowledge yote na uwezo wote na upendo wote, ultimately yuko responsible kwa kila kitu..

I have already told you that He did not create shaytan.

Kama unabisha lete ushaidi hapa nione. Wapi nimesema Mungu kaumba Shaytan. Wapi Biblia inasema Mungu kaumba shaytan? Mbona unaropoka weye.

Jibu post yangu number 173.