Haaa aaaahhh...kelele tuu mbona,waambie walianzishe tuu,anyway acheni kujidanganya na story zenu za kishabiki,war btn TZ and Rwanda will never happen period! Vita sio lelemama mjomba
Despite all weaknesses that can be seen from outside, if Dar says today Kagame has to go he will go, not even Museveni will be in a position to save him. The trouble is, people are equating PK to watutsi, or PK to banywarwanda, the three are not same. If Tanzania says banyrwanda have to go, that will have to wait till God dies.
Unajua PK amelianzisha mwenyewe, wacha liendelee, inawezekana bado hajui Tanzania ni nini.
.........Kagame ameleta udikteka kwa kisingizio cha mauaji ya kimbari wakati yeye na genge lake ndio chanzo cha uhasama ulioleta mauaji ya kimbari. .........
Kwataarifa yako kachaguliwa mara ya pili na wanyarwanda,nafikiri watanzania mkubali kwamba hapa mmekosea,mnayo yafanya siyo,rwanda ni najirani wenu,kusaidia wauaji nikujiharibia sifa yenu,kingine naona mnahamu ya vita,ni waulize kifua mnacho? au ni uswahili tu vitisho vya mdomo?
Kuna kitu gani cha ajabu hapa?.
Kwa mtu anayeifahamu historia ya Tanganyika/Tanzania katika kupigania haki za wanyonge wa kisiasa siyo barani Africa peke yake, bali duniani kote hawezi kupatwa na mshangao kusikia kuna kundi la watu au wakimbizi nchini wanaoishi au kupanga mikakati ya namna ya kuondokana na unyanyaswaji katika nchi yao.
Rais Paul Kagame akiwa ni mmoja wa wanufaika wa hisani ya Tanzania kabla ya kwenda Uganda na Rwanda na kuanza kubadili sura yake kiutawala na kuwa oppressor lazima atakuwa anafahamu vizuri mtazamo wa Tanzania katika kupigania haki za msingi za wanyanyaswaji na hasa cadres of the liberation movement.
Marehemu Mandela zaidi ya kumpa a warm welcome, ilibidi pia tumsindikize kwa kumpatia pasi ya kusafiria while also availing places to live and train Umkhonto we Sizwe. Hatukuwajibika kujibu kwa yoyote yule.
Rais Kagame na Mseveni wakati wanapata mafunzo ya kivita nchini, hatukuwajibika kujibu kwa yoyote yule.
Tanzania hatujawahi kuchaguliwa rafiki au adui na ndiyo maana hata tuliamua mwaka 1964 kuwa kwenye Non-Aligned countries. Hatuawajibiki kuiambia nchi nyingine nini tunakifanya na hasa kama kile tunachokifanya kitakuwa kwanza kwa maslahi yetu kama nchi na kikubwa kabisa, hakuna international or East African member countries arrest warrant kwa hawa candres wa mapambano nchini Rwanda.
Wataathirika vipi?Sasa punguzeni maneno,waungwana huomba msamaha,mlifikiri mmejificha ahahah wenzenu wameivuta hiyo,mngekua wawazi basi kwani jk na hao materahamwe wafanye mkutano kwa kujificha,jk akubali kwa pk si maji yake!,na kwa taarifa yako jk anamfahamu fika pk kua ni smart kumzidi,hayayote anayofanya ni uoga tu,kinacho nisikitisha ni kwamba watakao athirika ni watanzani wasio na hatia,just kwa sababu ya interest aijuae yeye mwenyewe jk.
Tanzania iliwahi ku-host Kagame. List ni ndefu sana. Kitu kimoja ambacho Kigali must understand ni kuwa Tanzania haichaguliwi nani wa kuongea naye nani hapana.Pres Kagame ni mtu makini sana. Hawezi kutaka vita na Tanzania kwani anajua wazi ndio mpango wa kumuondoa utakamilika. My heart bleeds to see my country Tanzania having a track record of backing Hutu extremist murderers. Kama kweli FDLR wamekuwa hosted na Tanzania basi nchi hii imepoteza mwelekeo. Naanza kuamini madai ya muda mrefu kuwa hata silaha wanazotumia waasi wa FDLR zinapitia bandari za Tanzania. Hii ni aibu. Kwa maoni yangu, Rais Kagame ana kila haki ya kushtushwa na hili la Tanzania allegedly hosting FDLR and those selfish, ungrateful RNC traitors. Huwezi kuwakarimu wauaji wa ndugu zangu halafu uje kunishauri eti nizungumze nao, it's simply preposterous.
Hivi ile energy and spirit btn Rwanda and TZ waliyoshirikiana kwenye multi billion projects like Rusumo Hydro power imeenda wapi?najua kulikuwa kuna mradi mkubwa wa reli pia Dar Isaka Kigali (what happened?),nafikiri its time kuangalia positives ambazo zinaweza kusaidia hizi nchi kuendelea mbele kuliko negativity zinazoendelea sasa,its not too late na ukiangalia vizuri sioni any serious conflict/problems btn these 2 countries
Sasa punguzeni maneno,waungwana huomba msamaha,mlifikiri mmejificha ahahah wenzenu wameivuta hiyo,mngekua wawazi basi kwani jk na hao materahamwe wafanye mkutano kwa kujificha,jk akubali kwa pk si maji yake!,na kwa taarifa yako jk anamfahamu fika pk kua ni smart kumzidi,hayayote anayofanya ni uoga tu,kinacho nisikitisha ni kwamba watakao athirika ni watanzani wasio na hatia,just kwa sababu ya interest aijuae yeye mwenyewe jk.
Kuna interest gani hapa for JK to host FDLR (number one enemy of Kigali), hii haitafikia kwenye army conflicts bts these two states(they know better) ila ninachoona uhusiano baina ya TZ na Rwanda umefikia mwisho na hakutakuwa na ushirikiano kwa chochote for the long time to come na sitashangaa kuona borders btn them zikifungwa,watakao umia ni wafanyabiashara kama Azam mwenye billions of businesses in Kigali,trucking business,Rwanda will stop using Dar port for good etc,na kwa hili naona sasa COW is the new EA...tofauti za kipuuzi za wanasiasa ambazo hazina maslahi ya nchi zinaishia kuharibu kazi na biashara za wananchi
LAST WEEK President Jakaya Kikwete of Tanzania rolled out the red carpet for Faustin Twagiramungu, once Rwanda's Prime Minister. It is unusual for a head of state to give VIP treatment to an ordinary individual with no known achievements, or political status in his country.
Twagiramungu's only claim to distinction is his dismal failure as prime minister, perennial grumbling, plotting against his country and a high level of ingratitude to people who saved his life.
In normal circumstances this would be considered a diplomatic faux pas considering that Tanzania and Rwanda are neighbours and partner states in the East African Community.
Obviously this fact is not strong enough to dissuade some people against abandoning customary civilised conduct. In that sense Twagiramungu's high level reception was not unexpected. In fact, it fits into a pattern that became public early in 2013.
The visit comes after Twagiramungu announced an alliance of his little known party (to do with dreams or something) with the genocidal Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR).
His announcement followed another one by the Bernard Ntaganda faction of PS-Imberakuri that they were also forming an alliance with FDLR.
The Rwanda National Congress of another Faustin – Kayumba Nyamwasa – has been desperately trying to get hitched to the genocidal bandwagon. If they have not gone the whole distance, it is because of mutual mistrust, not for lack of effort.
So immediately the announcements are made, Twagiramungu and co. hops off to Dar es Salaam to meet President Kikwete. Was it on their initiative? No. They were invited. Was this a friendly visit to an old buddy? Yes and no.
Some of you will remember that a year ago, President Kikwete proposed that the Government of Rwanda should negotiate with the FDLR for them to return home and for peace in the Great Lakes Region.
To Rwandans busy rebuilding their country and their Rwandanness, Kikwete's proposal was either the result of great disrespect and insensitivity or part of a wider plan against Rwanda.
As it now turns out, that outrageous suggestion was not the random muttering of someone with nothing useful to say, but part of a well-thought out strategy.
The answer to his preposterous proposal was unequivocal. No – there can never be any negotiations with genocidaires.
President Kikwete and his new-found foreign allies – the same that are responsible for all the mayhem in this region – must have realised that the proposal for talks could not fly. In the eyes of Rwandans and other right-thinking people, FDLR was a criminal, terrorist and genocidal organisation and not a legitimate political party.
And so they had to move to the next stage of the plan – to legitimise it. Hence the rush for a PS Imberakuri faction and Twagiramungu to announce their alliance with the FDLR.
Allying with parties perceived to be free of genocide connections was obviously meant to erase the genocide label from FDLR and turn it into an acceptable and credible political organisation.
Whitewashing FDLR is the first phase in a two-pronged strategy by Kikwete, Rwandan fugitives and foreign powers to pressure the Government of Rwanda into negotiating with it.
Their thinking seems to be that if the genocide label is hidden from view and the base of the organisation broadened, the FDLR would gain credibility and there would be no more reason for Rwanda not to negotiate with it.
If this is not enough to push Rwanda into talks, there is a back-up position – use of force. This second phase of the strategy is already under way.
It is well-known that the FDLR has been an integral part of the forces that fought M23 rebels in the eastern D R Congo. This alliance of forces included MONUSCO, DRC army and special UN Intervention Brigade whose bulk of troops was provided by Tanzania.
It is also common knowledge that in the joint operations against M23 some of the UN arms were given to FDLR. The same weapons are expected to be used by the FDLR and its allies to fight their way into Rwanda.
This part of the strategy explains why the Intervention Brigade whose mandate was to fight all negative forces in DRC has made no move against FDLR. You simply cannot fight an ally, especially if that ally also happens to be a vital element of your strategy.
This is not the first attempt to legitimise FDLR. Its apologists led by Human Rights Watch, MONUSCO and some of the many special envoys to the DRC have argued that it is no longer made up of genocidaires but children born after the genocide.
And these should not be condemned because of the sins of their parents, that there is no issue of original sin here.
The trouble is that FDLR remains a genocidal organisation despite all the attempts to wash it clean. It has not renounced the ideology of genocide. The children born in FDLR territory in DRC in the last twenty years have been brought up on that ideology and know no other.
In that sense they are worse than their parents. But in any case they have always been invited to return home, and thousands have done so.
The political parties now allied to FDLR to give it a cleaner face and broader base have no national character and represent only a few people – mainly their founders.
Their leaders, such as Twagiramungu have lost touch with reality and live in a permanent state of reverie. President Kikwete is gambling on the wrong people.
The option of fighting the Rwanda Defence Force – well, that is a different proposition that only the foolhardy, the utterly stupid or suicidal can contemplate. I would strongly advise against it.
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Mbaya zaidi ni kwamba anatafuta pa kushikia wakati amefumba macho...kinachofuata hapo ni kugusa nyaya za umeme ambazo hazipo insulated huku zikiwa ni high voltage...
Kuna kitu usichojua mipaka ikifungwa Rwanda ndio itakayoumia sana tena sana.Hao wafanyabiashara si tu ni wafanyabiashara wakubwa kuna kitu umesahau hapo ni kuwani walipa kodi wakubwa kwa serikali ya Rwanda na pia ni watoa ajira nyingi kwa wafanyakazi na wafanyabiashara wenye maduka wa kinyarwanda ambao ni wasambazaji wa hizo bidhaa zao.Ukiwagusa unagusa chanzo cha kodi,ajira na unafunga maduka ya wasambazaji!Mapato ya kodi yakiyumba Jeshi linaenda bila mishahara ukiwaambia wapige adui wanageuza bunduki wanakutandika uliyetoa amri kwa kuwa wanakuwa wamechoka maisha magumu.
Pia ufahamu biashara zinasimamiwa na sheria sio na siasa.Huwezi amka asubuhi ukasema toka leo mfanyabiashara wa Tanzania funga duka.Utaburuzwa mahakama za biashara za kimataifa ulipe hadi ufilisike.
I would have loved to see that Rwanda Become one of Tanzania Region,Hope that it is about three days we will reach capital city Kigali,if not with in few hours Kigali will turn into ashes,there is no need to go there,but to attack them from capital city Dsm.Tensions flared up again over the weekend between Rwanda and Tanzania after it emerged that President Jakaya Kikwete was hosting at his private residence Rwandan dissidents in Diaspora including rebel FDLR commanders.
By Chimp Investigations Team 5 hours 54 minutes ago
Kagame and Kikwete at a meeting in Kampala in 2013 The alleged political and ideological ties between Kikwete and President Paul Kagames enemies are emerging as the latest flash point between the two countries, whose relations have deteriorated sharply in recent months.
Impeccable sources said two high ranking members of Rwanda National Congress (RNC) - Theogene Rudasingwa (Coordinator) and Condo Gervais were joined by FDLR Executive Secretary Lt Col Wilson Irategeka and the operations commander, Col Hamadi, in Tanzania last week for talks.
It remains unclear why the group decided to convene in the East African country but a long-lingering argument that Kikwete is a sympathiser of the Rwandan opposition forces has since flared up with new intensity since the Tanzanian leader told a meeting on the sideline of the African Union Summit in Ethiopia last year that Kigali should hold talks with the terrorist FDLR.
ADF is attacking Uganda and FDRL is doing the same to Rwanda so efforts should be made to end such attacks. Talks should be held between governments and rebels hiding in the DRC where they launch attacks against their countries of origin. Military operations against the rebels will not yield fruit, said Kikwete.
Rwandas Foreign Affairs Minister swiftly made a counterattack, describing Kikwetes statements as aberrant and shocking.
Those who think that Rwanda today should sit down at the negotiating table with FDLR simply dont know what they are talking about, charged Mushikiwabo in an interview with Radio France Internationale (RFI).
Sources who preferred anonymity so as to speak freely further told this website that the two delegations of FDLR and RNC were received in Dar es Salaam on Thursday evening.
This was just a few days after former Rwanda Premier, Faustin Twagiramungu, was hosted in Tanzania. Twagiramungu recently said his party, RDI Rwanda Rwiza, would remove Kagame from office by force of arms.
However, in a statement seen by Chimpreports, Irategeka said FDLR leadership is saddened by the use of the president of Republic of Tanzanias name HE. Jakaya Kikwete, by certain entities, or individuals for their unknown agendas. FDLR entire leadership is based in Eastern DRC, and has no representation in Tanzania nor holds any foreign passport.
The developments come hardly a month after RNC founder Patrick Karegeya was found dead at hotel in Johannesburg.
It is widely thought that RNC has been struggling with internal squabbles emanating from mistrust and divergent views on what method should be used to remove President Paul Kagame from power.
Theogene Rudasingwa
While moderates believe in an uprising from within Rwanda, some on the extreme end are advocating for war.
Sources said FDLR supply lines have been reopened, with the militia, whose ideology and leadership led to the 1994 genocide, receiving plenty of military logistics at its bases in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Towards the end of 2013, the government of Rwanda alerted the United States, United Nations, UK and countries in the Great Lakes region of an impending invasion of Rwanda by militants in DRC, a military plan that reportedly has the blessing of individuals in France and hostile countries.
Rwanda officials further said that some members in the UN Force Intervention Brigade were in bed with FDLR instead of fighting the negative force as required by the UN mandate.
The UN brigade that fought and defeated the M23 comprised soldiers from Malawi, South Africa and Tanzania.
Matter of priority
The FDLR is considered a national security threat to Rwanda.
At a recent meeting, President Kagame told Russell Feingold, the US Special Envoy for the Great Lakes Region of Africa and DRC that the genocidal militia must be firmly dealt with as a matter of priority.
Earlier, without mentioning Kikwete, the Rwandan leader accused his Tanzanian counterpart of making reckless remarks about FDLR.
When people continue to uphold the genocide ideology, it is a reminder that the path ahead is still long, Kagame told the Rwanda Patriotic Front (RPF) National Executive Committee meeting in Kigali in 2013.
We cannot take anything for granted. For Rwanda, this is not just about a discussion. The consequences are a death or life issue for Rwanda, he added.
He further noted that talk of negotiations with FDLR was evidence of those who have the luxury of speaking but suffer no consequences.
Kagame said then that speaking casually and calling on us to negotiate with the killers of our people is utter nonsense.
Speaking at the graduation ceremony of 45 army officers at the Rwanda Defence Forces Staff and Command College last year, Kagame described Kikwetes idea as dancing on the mass graves of our people.
Though he did not mention Kikwete, Kagame maintained proposals that Rwanda should hold talks with FDLR were premised on ignorance and ideological problems.
I kept quiet for the contempt I have for it (FDLR talks) because I thought it was utter nonsense spoken out of ignorance. We must be left to live our lives the way Rwandans want to live them, charged Kagame. He further said RPF did not seek revenge when it had every reason to be tempted...I don't think anybody should be having issues with us.
- See more at: Chimpreports.com-Uganda News - Rwanda -Tanzania Tensions Flare Again