Public Debate on Land Grabbing in Tanzania

[TzPride]

That is what I was talking about. So, to you it is okay to lease land to Bangladeshis who have messed up their own environment, and instead of going into agreement with them to buy food from us, we'd rather give them free land so they can feed themselves, am I right? And meanwhile we will continue to be beggars. TzPride indeed!

Yes, TzPride! Why are you lamenting about TZ leasing land to Bangladeshans? You don't see any problem for the case of Uganda and Gambia! Jasusi, that overwhelming desires of you Kenyans to acquire land in Tz is what worries us. For God's sake, give us a break.....get the land somewhere else i.e South Sudan at least they can cope with your usual clashes over the land.

 

[Augustine Moshi]

Katiba mpya lazima iwe na kipengele rasmi kuhusu umiliki wa ardhi. Haiwezekani serikali igawe ardhi yetu (urithi wetu) left and right bila kibali cha Bunge.

Sasa tukiwaacha hawa CCM wakae mpaka 2015 watamaliza kuuza kila kitu kwa kupewa rushwa. Huenda ikabidi kuwatoa mkuku hapo Magogoni.

 

[The Finest]

Yes, TzPride! Why are you lamenting about TZ leasing land to Bangladeshans? You don't see any problem for the case of Uganda and Gambia! Jasusi, that overwhelming desires of you Kenyans to acquire land in Tz is what worries us. For God's sake, give us a break.....get the land somewhere else i.e South Sudan at least they can cope with your usual clashes over the land.

Since acquiring land in Kenya involves tribalism and now that most of the land has been occupied in Kenya and thinking of the E.A Federation, they think they have right to everything they complain and nag a lot.

 

[Chamoto]

Even though I don't like nyang'au sniffing on our land but I would rather have them in my country any time of the day than these Bengalis. Who the hell came up with that idea? Come on people! Have you lost some gray matters upstairs or something? This is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard. Bangladesh? Really? What do they have? Taking into account the lack of seriousness we have in following up on important issues, they'll pollute our environment and by the time they're done with it, nobody will be accountable.

 

[kanyagio]

tujiandae kwa vita ya ardhi

 

[TIMING]

Mimi nadhani wakenya wangeaza kuchukua ardhi ya akina raila, kibaki, moi nk kwanza wagawane ikiisha ndio wahangaike na sisi.... noisy neighbours

 

[TIMING]

Since acquiring land in Kenya involves tribalism and now that most of the land has been occupied in Kenya and thinking of the E.A Federation, they think they have right to everything they complain and nag a lot.

cousin...... fook hao wakenya, wako obssessed na tanzania badala ya kuhangaikia kuondoa udini na ukabaila walio nao

mimi kwangu mkenya aliyekua obssessed na tanzania namwita mpumb@vu

 

[Smatta]

Kenyans are not obsessed with Tanzania, not the Tanzanian people at least, we have interest with the land maybe but nothing more than that. what my friend mkenya mzalendo is trying to say is that Tanzania would rather dish out land to Asians (who will only employ Tanzanians as manual laborers, and use bad farming practices to maximize on the profits) than lease the same to fellow east Africans, he is not complaining but just airing an observation. Kenya's arable land is quite small, all those that have visited Kenya can attest to this fact, land grabbing since the Kenyatta, Moi and now Kibaki ''error'' has made matters worse. our ''good neighbors'' on the other hand have large tracts of idle arable land, that due to their inherent laziness they cant utilize fully but wont allow an east African to squatter on that land for an agreed amount of money and period of time.

i have come to a conclusion that the EAC will not work if Tanzania keep holding grudges against Kenya and intentionally blocking businessmen and investors from doing their trade in Tanzania. It wont take long before Tanzania realizes that it has goofed in many of its policies against East African countries, coz you are definitely being raped by the Arab, West and Asian world, watch this space people.

 

[The Quonquerer]

Even though I don't like nyang'au sniffing on our land but I would rather have them in my country any time of the day than these Bengalis. Who the hell came up with that idea? Come on people! Have you lost some gray matters upstairs or something? This is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard. Bangladesh? Really? What do they have? Taking into account the lack of seriousness we have in following up on important issues, they'll pollute our environment and by the time they're done with it, nobody will be accountable.

Neither Nyang'au nor Bengals are needed in Tanzania. Whoever comes dubiously will ultimately pay the price. Mugabe siyo mjinga, lazima watalipa akiwemo na huyo anayewaleta! Hawajaletwa na watanzania, it's only these mafisi!

 

[The Quonquerer]

Kenyans are not obsessed with Tanzania, not the Tanzanian people at least, we have interest with the land maybe but nothing more than that. what my friend mkenya mzalendo is trying to say is that Tanzania would rather dish out land to Asians (who will only employ Tanzanians as manual laborers, and use bad farming practices to maximize on the profits) than lease the same to fellow east Africans, he is not complaining but just airing an observation. Kenya's arable land is quite small, all those that have visited Kenya can attest to this fact, land grabbing since the Kenyatta, Moi and now Kibaki ''error'' has made matters worse. our ''good neighbors'' on the other hand have large tracts of idle arable land, that due to their inherent laziness they cant utilize fully but wont allow an east African to squatter on that land for an agreed amount of money and period of time.

i have come to a conclusion that the EAC will not work if Tanzania keep holding grudges against Kenya and intentionally blocking businessmen and investors from doing their trade in Tanzania. It wont take long before Tanzania realizes that it has goofed in many of its policies against East African countries, coz you are definitely being raped by the Arab, West and Asian world, watch this space people.

Acha ujinga, even those arabs aren't welcome, not Kenyans either. we don't need you all! they only bribe govt officials, kiwete inclusive!

 

[Smatta]

Acha ujinga, even those arabs aren't welcome, not Kenyans either. we don't need you all! they only bribe govt officials, kiwete inclusive!

Tell all your Tanzanian brothers that their cheap, bigoted ethnocentric ways belong to the time long gone by. Wake up guys and have a life. Who doesnt know Tanzania is a playing field of white gold diggers eager to exploit your nonrenewable resources without investing in the real productive sectors of the economy. The recent boast in your economy is from foreign investment in natural resource exploitation. Anyway i dont expect Tanzanians to have a clue on the issues global political economy that require higher level reasoning. You can continue with their emotional appealing rhetoric which has no real substance.

 

[Mdondoaji]

What is with you Kenyans our land is our land take your EAC crap and go with it we do not want you guys in our country.

 

[MkamaP]

Bangladeshi companies say they have leased thousands of hectares of farmland in Africa as part of their efforts to avoid future food shortages.

Two Bangladeshi companies have already signed deals to lease unused cultivable land in Uganda, Tanzania and Gambia.

Another agreement to lease around 30,000 hectares for 99 years will be signed with the Tanzanian government later this week.

Officials say African countries have huge amounts of unused cultivable land.

At the same time they say that Bangladesh has the manpower and expertise to produce staple crops all year round.

'Food security'
Under the plans, the Contract Farming System will enable Bangladeshi companies to get at least 60% of the produce.

In return Bangladesh will train African farmers in rain-fed rice cultivation, seed conservation and irrigation.

It is hoped that the new arrangement will increase food productivity and enable the country's expanding workforce to be deployed in Africa's farming sector.

"Basically this idea is mainly for proper management of our food security," said Wahidur Rahman, a senior Bangladeshi foreign ministry official.

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S Korea 'in Tanzania land deal'
"We are thinking of expanding our agriculture, but we do not have enough land to cultivate. Because of this we are thinking Africa may be the destination for our agriculture production."

Bangladesh is the world's fourth largest producer of rice and it harvested around 34 million tonnes last year.

Although the country produces enough to feed its population of 160 million people, it faces shortages at times because of natural disasters.

Officials say apart from rice there is also scope to cultivate other crops such as wheat and cotton in Africa.

 

[njiro]

Kuna watanzania kibao hawana ardhi, na kama wanayo haina rutuba ya kutosha. Hii ya kuwapa hao jamaa ardhi ni upuuzi, wawapeleke wakulima wetu( namaaanisha mkulima toka kule Mwendakulima Kahama na si wasomi wale wa SUA kozi hawa jamaa wakirudi watakaa ofisini kuandika papers ambazo hazitafanyiwa kazi) huko kwao wajifunze jinsi hawa jamaa wameweza kuzalisha mchele kwa wingi kuliko kuwapa ardhi. Ni mawazo yangu Nawakilisha

 

[Sinkala]

Kuna kipindi nilikutana na m-Bangladeshi mmoja nilipokuwa huko Asia, aliniambia kwao kuna watu wengi sana na hawana kazi wala ardhi. Nadhani hii ya food security ni janja tu, wanataka wajinufaishe kwa kupitia ardhi yetu kwa bei rahisi. Wa-bangladeshi wengi wanafanya kazi za ndani (house girl/boy) katika nchi za Asia zenye unafuu wa maisha kiasi.

 

[MkamaP]

Serikali yetu bwana inachekesha kweli, ama nijitihada za kutafuta fedha za mishahara?

 

[KVM]

Kweli Bongo ni kichwa cha mwendawazimu!

 

[Sijali]

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[Kalunguine]

hili ndilo shamaba la bibi, nyie nunueni tu, ila mjukuu nikikua nitazidai mali za bibi hata kwa panga. janja yenu ina mwisho wake, mbona mugabe alichoka na akawatimua. mtaondoka tu. ipo siku!

 

[The Quonquerer]

Tell all your Tanzanian brothers that their cheap, bigoted ethnocentric ways belong to the time long gone by. Wake up guys and have a life. Who doesnt know Tanzania is a playing field of white gold diggers eager to exploit your nonrenewable resources without investing in the real productive sectors of the economy. The recent boast in your economy is from foreign investment in natural resource exploitation. Anyway i dont expect Tanzanians to have a clue on the issues global political economy that require higher level reasoning. You can continue with their emotional appealing rhetoric which has no real substance.

So if someone denies his property is an ethnocentric? What about Kenyattas and the like who screwed you up? The fact that i don't use all my land, it doesn't mean i don't need it. Wapumbavu tu nyie, TZ won't be the solution of your problems. You said you know business, go ahead and do it! And Do it good! Don't poke you noses in things you have nothing to do with. Even those intruders will face justice! Observe the word justice! You thought EAC will work for you, no it won't. No land, go back to your 3/4 desert country!