Prince Abubakari II (The Marine) of Mali

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Traveled and trade in America 1311 - 181 years before Columbus. He never claim to discover America. [Because] OVERTAKING & COLONIES IS NOT AFRICAN BUSINESS.
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potwemakunge said:
It might be a very interesting account if supported by source. Any?
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Black history is hidden, Please read the book "When We Ruled" is by far the best general work on the ancient and medieval history of Black people there has ever been. It written by Robin Walker
 
souljah meditater said:
Black history is hidden, Please read the book "When We Ruled" is by far the best general work on the ancient and medieval history of Black people there has ever been. It written by Robin Walker
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And where do I get the book from? Just got interested.
 
potwemakunge said:
It might be a very interesting account if supported by source. Any?
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This is a story commonly relayed by Arab historians and Mande griots about how a medieval ruler from Mali by the name of Abubakari II set fourth on a trans-Atlantic journey sometime in the early 14th century. This was first documented in 1325 by the Arab writer/historian Al-Umari via Mansa Musa's (emperor who succeeded Abubakari II) testimony. Evidence, as described by Africanist researchers like Ivan Van Sertima and Gaoussou Diawara, point out numerous clues suggesting that Abubakari actually made it. Claims that west African metals were found to even a personal account from Columbus himself claiming to have seen Black traders. I was interested in what people thought about this intriguing case.

Here's some more information:

BBC News | AFRICA | Africa's 'greatest explorer'
 
souljah meditater said:
This is a story commonly relayed by Arab historians and Mande griots about how a medieval ruler from Mali by the name of Abubakari II set fourth on a trans-Atlantic journey sometime in the early 14th century. This was first documented in 1325 by the Arab writer/historian Al-Umari via Mansa Musa's (emperor who succeeded Abubakari II) testimony. Evidence, as described by Africanist researchers like Ivan Van Sertima and Gaoussou Diawara, point out numerous clues suggesting that Abubakari actually made it. Claims that west African metals were found to even a personal account from Columbus himself claiming to have seen Black traders. I was interested in what people thought about this intriguing case.

Here's some more information:

BBC News | AFRICA | Africa's 'greatest explorer'
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Grateful for your reaction over my concern mkuu. These are some of the information most of us, specifically me, are not aware of. That is Africa mkuu!! most scholars are indifferent to bring it to the public. Why?
Big up mkuu, I will spare my time to go through the information and come back to you.
 
potwemakunge said:
Grateful for your reaction over my concern mkuu. These are some of the information most of us, specifically me, are not aware of. That is Africa mkuu!! most scholars are indifferent to bring it to the public. Why?
Big up mkuu, I will spare my time to go through the information and come back to you.
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Bravo kaka each one must teach one, blessed!
 
The Mali Empire[edit]

Mansa Musa depicted holding a gold nugget, from the 1375 Catalan Atlas
The name Mālī (مالي) was recorded as the name of the empire by Ibn Battuta (d. 1368/9). According to Battuta's contemporary Chihab al-Umari (d. 1384), the name of the empire was Nyeni (Niani), after its capital. Alternative variants of the name Mali included Mallel, Mel, and Melit.

The native name Manden for the territory was eponymous of the name of the ethnic group, the Manden’ka, with the ka suffix meaning "people of".[6] From the evidence of the Epic of Sundiata, a semi-historical account of the empire's foundation in the early 13th century,[7] the territory with this name comprised most of present-day northern Guinea and southern Mali. The empire originated as a federation of Bambara tribes called the Manden Kurufaba[1] (Manden being the country, kuru meaning "assembly" and faba meaning "great entirety"). The rulers of Mali came to be called mansa, meaning “emperor” or “master.” Mansa Musa was Mali’s most renowned king, ruling from 1312 to 1337 CE. He was the grandson of Sundiata’s half brother, and ruled Mali at a time of great prosperity, during which trade tripled. During his rule, he doubled the land area of Mali; it became a larger kingdom than any in Europe at the time. The cities of Mali became important trading centers for all of West Africa as well as famous centers of wealth, culture, and learning. Timbuktu, an important city in Mali, became one of the major cultural centers not only of Africa but of the entire world. Vast libraries and Islamic universities were built. These became meeting places of the finest poets, scholars, and artists of Africa and the Middle East. Mansa Musa, who was Muslim, was perhaps best known outside of Mali for his pilgrimage to Mecca in 1324 C.E. According to some accounts, 60,000 people accompanied him, along with 200 camels laden with gold, silver, food, clothing, and other goods. This pilgrimage displayed Mansa Musa’s enormous wealth and generosity.[citation needed]
 
MIGUGO said:
Duh.Naskia hata Vikings walimtangulia Columbus.
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Sure huo ndio ukweli wenyewe historia inaonyesha nearly 500 years before the birth of Christopher Columbus, a band of European sailors left their homeland behind in search of a new world. Their high-prowed Viking ship sliced through the cobalt waters of the Atlantic Ocean as winds billowed the boat’s enormous single sail. After traversing unfamiliar waters, the Norsemen aboard the wooden ship spied a new land, dropped anchor and went ashore. Half a millennium before Columbus “discovered” America, those Viking feet may have been the first European ones to ever have touched North American soil.
 
Sky Eclat said:
The Mali Empire[edit]

Mansa Musa depicted holding a gold nugget, from the 1375 Catalan Atlas
The name Mālī (مالي) was recorded as the name of the empire by Ibn Battuta (d. 1368/9). According to Battuta's contemporary Chihab al-Umari (d. 1384), the name of the empire was Nyeni (Niani), after its capital. Alternative variants of the name Mali included Mallel, Mel, and Melit.

The native name Manden for the territory was eponymous of the name of the ethnic group, the Manden’ka, with the ka suffix meaning "people of".[6] From the evidence of the Epic of Sundiata, a semi-historical account of the empire's foundation in the early 13th century,[7] the territory with this name comprised most of present-day northern Guinea and southern Mali. The empire originated as a federation of Bambara tribes called the Manden Kurufaba[1] (Manden being the country, kuru meaning "assembly" and faba meaning "great entirety"). The rulers of Mali came to be called mansa, meaning “emperor” or “master.” Mansa Musa was Mali’s most renowned king, ruling from 1312 to 1337 CE. He was the grandson of Sundiata’s half brother, and ruled Mali at a time of great prosperity, during which trade tripled. During his rule, he doubled the land area of Mali; it became a larger kingdom than any in Europe at the time. The cities of Mali became important trading centers for all of West Africa as well as famous centers of wealth, culture, and learning. Timbuktu, an important city in Mali, became one of the major cultural centers not only of Africa but of the entire world. Vast libraries and Islamic universities were built. These became meeting places of the finest poets, scholars, and artists of Africa and the Middle East. Mansa Musa, who was Muslim, was perhaps best known outside of Mali for his pilgrimage to Mecca in 1324 C.E. According to some accounts, 60,000 people accompanied him, along with 200 camels laden with gold, silver, food, clothing, and other goods. This pilgrimage displayed Mansa Musa’s enormous wealth and generosity.[citation needed]
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africa got great historical roots tatizo wengi wetu ni wavivu kusoma, much respect Sky Eclat for sharing it
 
Tafuta kitabu kinaitwa "They Came Before Columbus".

Mfalme Abubakar alikaa na kuangalia mto Niger. Akasema, kama vile huu mto ulivyo na ng'ambo ya pili, yumkini, bahari hii kubwa nayo (Atlantic) ni lazima ina ng'ambo ya pili.

Akapakia dhahabu chakula na watumishi wake kwenye mamia ya majahazi. Akaenda kufanya safari kuvuka bahari. Mashua ya mwisho kwenye safari ikarudi kurudisha habari kwamba Mfalme amefika katikati ya bahari ambako kuna mawimbi makubwa sana (ilikuwa ni utamaduni watu kurudi kutoa habari).

Kwa sababu kiutamaduni Aboubakar aliacha utawala wake, vitabu vya watawala wa nchi yake vilimtoa katika hesabu ya wafalme. Kwao walitafsiri kama amedharau kazi yake ya ufalme na ku "abdicate".

Aliyemfuatia alikuwa Mansa Mussa Keita The First. Mtu anayesadikiwa kwamba ndiye alikuwa tajiri kuliko wote walioishi duniani. Mansa Mussa alivyokwenda kuhiji Maka alipitia Cairo (1324-1325) alimwaga dhahabu kama zawadi Cairo mpaka bei ya dhahabu ikashuka.

Mansa Mussa aliulizwa, tuambie habari ya jinsi ulivyokuja kupata ufalme. Ilikuwaje? Mansa Mussa ndiye aliyeelezea habari ya Mansa Aboubakar The Second kusafiri kwenda America.

Hivyo ndivyo habari hiyo ilivyojulikana nje ya kwao.
 
Kiranga said:
Tafuta kitabu kinaitwa "They Came Before Columbus".

Mfalme Abubakar alikaa na kuangalia mto Niger. Akasema, kama vile huu mto ulivyo na ng'ambo ya pili, yumkini, bahari hii kubwa nayo (Atlantic) ni lazima ina ng'ambo ya pili.

Akapakia dhahabu chakula na watumishi wake kwenye mamia ya majahazi. Akaenda kufanya safari kuvuka bahari. Mashua ya mwisho kwenye safari ikarudi kurudisha habari kwamba Mfalme amefika katikati ya bahari ambako kuna mawimbi makubwa sana (ilikuwa ni utamaduni watu kurudi kutoa habari).

Kwa sababu kiutamaduni Aboubakar aliacha utawala wake, vitabu vya watawala wa nchi yake vilimtoa katika hesabu ya wafalme. Kwao walitafsiri kama amedharau kazi yake ya ufalme na ku "abdicate".

Aliyemfuatia alikuwa Mansa Mussa Keita The First. Mtu anayesadikiwa kwamba ndiye alikuwa tajiri kuliko wote walioishi duniani. Mansa Mussa alivyokwenda kuhiji Maka alipitia Cairo (1324-1325) alimwaga dhahabu kama zawadi Cairo mpaka bei ya dhahabu ikashuka.

Mansa Mussa aliulizwa, tuambie habari ya jinsi ulivyokuja kupata ufalme. Ilikuwaje? Mansa Mussa ndiye aliyeelezea habari ya Mansa Aboubakar The Second kusafiri kwenda America.

Hivyo ndivyo habari hiyo ilivyojulikana nje ya kwao.
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asante sana mkuu hizi ni fact adimu hazipatikani darasani
 
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