On Ndulu: The "Guardian" must be kidding me!

[Utingo]

i am trying to think...........mhhh!

When was the last time i read "the guardian"?

I don't remember!

there is nothing to read in the guardian

 

[kisikichampingo]

Kwa kweli Guardian limechoka. Hadi leo nalilia The African la OLD Habari Corporation. Ndilo gazeti la kiingereza lililokuwa linasomeka.

 

[WildCard]

Mimi nawashukuru angalau wanasoma mawazo ya wengine pia. Najua lipo walilojifunza. Hivi viteke wanavyoturushia nadhani ni katika kujihami tu. Wanalinda soko na hadhi yao tu. Wajue tu kwamba Watanzania wa leo sio wale wa zamani tena.

 

[Nanu]

Nadhani kwenye story ya Ndulu walikula matapishi yao wenyewe. Ile waliboronga na siyo kwamba wanaboronga story zote, la hasha lakini pale wanapoboronga lazima tuwaambie ili wajirekebishe. I doubt about eligibility and deep understanding and analysis of issues by the editor. he should have taken criticism positively and make a u-turn from there but not coming with words of trying to console himself. There are facts commented on ndulu story, the editor if bright enough should have taken the criticism points and defend them or agree that he may didn't have the facts right. You cannot justify that b/se in 2005 they stole 133billion, we taken measures to increase salaries to internal BoT staff to 40 billion to ensure that they don't collaborate with outsiders to swindle the money... will that justify that spending?? the same as justifying the spent of 1.5billion by a rental of USD78000 per year...this doesn't add up... and especially when coming from a reputable newspaper where we believed that the editors are learned and good analysts.....

 

[Abunwasi]

..Hizi ni kelele za mfa maji...Magazeti ya Guardian Ltd hayako kwenye orodha yangu ya magazeti makini....Wahenga husema,"Debe tupu haliishi kuvuma"....Na hizi kelele za Guardian ni za debe tupu...

Ndiyo maana wanapunguzana. best judge ni reader bro.
The Guardian started well but over the last few year sisi baadhi ya wasomaji tumeona mabadiliko ambapo wengine tunaona hili gazeti ni mdomo wa mzee.
Tunafahamu kuwa wahariri siyo wenye magazeti na wao at the end of the inabidi watoto wacheke nyumbani.
Badala ya bla bla angalieni wapi mlianza kwenda kombo halafu mrudi kwenye track kama independent paper you will be surprised sisi ambao ndiyo wadau wakuu tutakavyo respond.

 

[akashube]

The Guardian wanaomba urafiki

Contrary to many excellent views above, I have had a different angle of the scenarios within the Guardian script. Hawa jamaa ni kama vile wanajaribu kutuomba urafiki bila kulazimika kujibu hoja za maadui zao kisheria.

Sentensi ya hapo juu kwa wana JF si ngumu hata kidogo, lakini kwa Guests nafafanua kidogo, Ni kwamba Mwandishi ameandika kwa makusudi kuonyesha jazba ili isomeke kama The Guardian ni wapiganaji kutoka moyoni, na sidhani kama hao Evil doers amelenga kwingine zaidi ya mafisadi na makundi mengine.

Naona kama anatoa ujumbe kuwa '' JAMANI JF EEEH!!!SISI TUKO PAMOJA!!!!!!

Hata hivyo bado narudia kitu kimoja kama mwana JF, kwamba ni UTUMBO mkubwa kujisifu kwa kupata tuzo kwa uandishi juu ya mauaji ya albino, hivi Mzungu anakupa tuzo kwa kuandika juu ya mnavyouana na unaona ni jambo la maana saaaana. HIYO NI AIBU KWETU...HIYO NI KWAMBA WAZUNGU WANASTAHILI TUZO KWA KUWA WAMETOA TUZO KWA WATANZANIA KWA KUANDIKA JINSI WALIVYO WANAHARAMU. Kwa Guests mnisamehe kidogo sina lugha rahisi zaidi......maana mkitaka ufafanuzi sijui mtaulizaje?

Pia Guardian Marketing Team wajue kuwa Matangazo ya Kazi ndiyo yanauza gazeti lao na siyo Story. Ninazo Data kamili za uhakika kabisa juu ya hilo, kwa hiyo ni rahisi sana kwa the Guardian kutoka Sokoni. Na ndiyo maana wakati mwingine mnakosa pesa za mishahara na inabidi msaidiwe na profit kutoka BONITE. Im sorry......naomba niishie hapo isipokuwa nikipata uhakika kuwa lengo lenu ni kushambulia JF...nitamwaga hapa data zenu zote.....Halafu niulize kale kamgomo kenu kameishia wapi? Mambo ya mgomo mtuachie sisi wakulima, waalimu, madaktari, wanavyuo na wanafunzi wa chekechea(Hata hawa wamewazidi?) msiige fani!!EB0!!!!

 

[Wacha1]

Wanakula na mafisadi tu hao.

 

[bagamoyo]

QUOTE:'It should be noted that out of thousands stories received by the European Union panelists last year, The Guardian on Sunday's stories on the spate of albino killings were voted the best of Africa beating out more than 400 other entries from over 100 newspapers, radio and TV stations.'

The quote above is just a tip of iceberg. Instead of blaming our free forums through citizen journalism, you should have acknowledge our role in highlighting areas which the mainstream media organisations fear to address.

For your information nowadays our forum is a source for triggering 'a big conversation' among Tanzanian citizens.

Thanks for visiting our forum, hope you will continue to do so.

 

[Drifter]

Mbona jibu la ovyo sana hilo? What's wrong with the Guardian? Hata lugha yenyewe ya kubabaisha! Halafu mtu unawezaje kulinganisha JF na "cult" au "sect"! After all, this is far from being a monolith group! Hili ni jukwaa lililo wazi kwa watu wenye mawazo mbalimbali. Ndio maana kuna kupingana na kuelimishana kwingi humu zaidi ya kukubaliana. Nafikiri njia bora ya kujibu hoja za wana-JF ni kuingia mtandaoni na kuzichambua moja baada ya nyingine specifically kwa ushahidi kamili. Walichofanya kwa habari zao zote ni kama kuandika very poor PR pieces.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

I believe they just wanted to put us on notice; to declare that they are the superpower and we are but a miniature entity in this whole saga.

 

[Eliphaz the Temanite]

Ipp Media haina prospect! Yaani niliacha kusoma the Gurdian 2004 nilipokuwa natafuta kazi! and I dont even miss em' its just peace of gabbage! Hakuna ubunifu wowote waandika kwa mazoea! and now wameanza kudandia magari mabovu! Huwezi kumwita a distinguished leader Kiongozi mbinafsi kama huyo mchumi Beno! and now unajisifia eti umepewa tuzo na mzungu kwa kuandika mauaji ya albino! What is that! Wazungu si ndio wanapenda upuuzi kama huo about Africa! Hebu andika mauaji ya kila siku watu kuchomana visu London, au mmomonyoko wa maadili Ulaya watu wanafanya mapenzi na mbwa wao! au mapenzi ya jinsia moja yanavyoshamiri, uone kama watakupa tuzo!

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Hebu andika mauaji ya kila siku watu kuchomana visu London, au mmomonyoko wa maadili Ulaya watu wanafanya mapenzi na mbwa wao! au mapenzi ya jinsia moja yanavyoshamiri, uone kama watakupa tuzo!

uuuuwi!!! sijaona siku nyingi watu wakimkoma nyani gileni.. this is refreshing!

 

[Teamo]

''the guardian'' SUCKS!huh

 

[bagamoyo]

Mhariri mwingine Daily News alilia uhuru wa kufanya kazi kama Jamiiforums:

Columnist
Towards an independent editors forum

GABBY MGAYA, 24th January 2010 @ 15:01, Total Comments: 1, Hits: 391

EFFORTS at forming a truly independent editors' forum in the country are going on. One can see it coming. Saw some of the forum's organising committee members last week and in our conversation it was crystal clear that they are up to something good.

In sharp contrast with the past, the new editors' forum will be truly independent of influence from some powers that be in the media industry, topnotch politics and big business.

It used to happen in the past that some among the ‘powers-that-be' made sure that their voices and wishes were achieved by planting their own aides (wapambe) as the forum's top office bearers. This way the so-called big brothers could dictate their own terms to the forum.

That was the kind of forum that could influence a wider section of ladies and gentlemen of the profession of the fourth estate to gag their mouths with plaster and demonstrate in the streets of Dar es Salaam against the information minister's decision to suspend a tabloid that had clearly violated professional ethics – in the name of media freedom or independence.

Some of the senior and serious comrades in the profession took the sucker punch and took part in one of the media comedies of recent years. Didn't know until then how hilarious some of my professional colleagues could get.

It is a good thing that some of the colleagues who took part in that media comedy have realised that they did that against their best wisdom. It is always good to realise and appreciate one's mistakes and proceed to make amends.

Soon the forum will conduct elections, which I believe will be free and fair, to elect its new office bearers. It is everyone's hope that the powerful ladies and gentlemen who had dictated their own terms during the previous editors' forum will refrain from exerting undue influence in those elections.

The new forum will no doubt have the gargantuan task of ensuring professional quality that has been on a sharp decline in recent years. There is need to restore the profession's lost old glory and raise it to acceptable standards.
Let it be so.

 

[Kiranga]

Mhariri mwingine Daily News alilia uhuru wa kufanya kazi kama Jamiiforums:

Columnist
Towards an independent editors forum

GABBY MGAYA, 24th January 2010 @ 15:01, Total Comments: 1, Hits: 391

EFFORTS at forming a truly independent editors’ forum in the country are going on. One can see it coming. Saw some of the forum’s organising committee members last week and in our conversation it was crystal clear that they are up to something good.

In sharp contrast with the past, the new editors’ forum will be truly independent of influence from some powers that be in the media industry, topnotch politics and big business.

It used to happen in the past that some among the ‘powers-that-be’ made sure that their voices and wishes were achieved by planting their own aides (wapambe) as the forum’s top office bearers. This way the so-called big brothers could dictate their own terms to the forum.

That was the kind of forum that could influence a wider section of ladies and gentlemen of the profession of the fourth estate to gag their mouths with plaster and demonstrate in the streets of Dar es Salaam against the information minister’s decision to suspend a tabloid that had clearly violated professional ethics – in the name of media freedom or independence.

Some of the senior and serious comrades in the profession took the sucker punch and took part in one of the media comedies of recent years. Didn’t know until then how hilarious some of my professional colleagues could get.

It is a good thing that some of the colleagues who took part in that media comedy have realised that they did that against their best wisdom. It is always good to realise and appreciate one’s mistakes and proceed to make amends.

Soon the forum will conduct elections, which I believe will be free and fair, to elect its new office bearers. It is everyone’s hope that the powerful ladies and gentlemen who had dictated their own terms during the previous editors’ forum will refrain from exerting undue influence in those elections.

The new forum will no doubt have the gargantuan task of ensuring professional quality that has been on a sharp decline in recent years. There is need to restore the profession’s lost old glory and raise it to acceptable standards.
Let it be so.

Waandishi wetu bwana, kuwaelewa kaaazi mpaka utumie msuli, hata wale ambao wanaonekana lugha wanaiweza wanaandika kama vile mko kijiweni mnatia story.

Hii story kuielewa katika first read ni vigumu sana, na wengine hatuna muda wa kurudia rudia kusoma. Hakuna engaging delivery, hakuna unequivocal and unambiguous lines, ilimradi uvuguvugu usiojidistinguish mtindo mmoja.

Labda wengine "tunalemazwa" na NYT na The Economist kiasi cha kutegemea standards hizo kwenye magazeti yetu.

 

[Ulusungu]

Tuwaombee wapone ugonjwa unaowakabili wasomi wengi wa kiafrika,Wanajua kukopi sawa inapofika kupaste madudu,Ndullu ni prof.mtanzania Mwafrika,hata kama amezaliwa kwenye fanilia tajira kiasi gani hawezi kukwepa ukweli wa wale waliokuwa wanamzunguka wakati anakuwa kwenye utajiri wa familia yake,Msomi mzuri wa kitanzania ni yule mwenye uwezo wa kutunia elimu na exposure yake kwa manufaa ya ukombozi wa waafrika kiuchumi na kijamii.
Haingii akilini kwamba Nyumba aliyojengewa gavana BOT ndiyo stahili ya hadhi yake,Gavana wa benki ambayo iko kwenye nchi ambayo umasikini wake hauhitaji gharama za utafiti,waweza kuamua kwenda kilomita tano uelekeo wowote toka katikati ya jiji ukaeulewa.
TATIZO KUBWA LA WAAFRIKA HATA WAKISOMA NAMNA GANI WENGI WAO NI MALIMBUKENI na hao ndio wanosingizia hadhi ya...hadhi ya...hadhi ya..kutetea upumbavu.

 

[Domisianus]

Real by the first time I read the guardian about the shameful game of the BOT boss, I was astounded; I couldn't believe whether I was reading guardian or 'gazeti la udaku' anyway I decide to read the whole story to know exactly its context but what was written in that news paper was a appalling, worse enough the next day, the guardian repeat the same thing went far by stipulating that the money was spent prudently.Lazima wote tuwe na uchungu na nchi yetu, mtu akiharibu aambiwe na si vinginevyo.

 

[Ludovick Mwijage]

Ninaamini baadhi yetu bado tunaikumbuka riwaya ya 'Shamba la Wanyama' (Animal Farm'-George Orwell).