Need to launch complaint against GSM GROUP

[RISHBAH RAJ]

You might do not know i have worked for brands which you mentioned, and came here to set up business, open Pugu mall, Danube etc.
So you do not need to tell what is my title as it legal across. understand business than only you could able to write. Well wisher. Also don't write about community as you don't know how many Tanzanian are getting medical, education and other work in India. Be realistic before write.

There was another employee IT MANAGER TAURAI, from Zimbabwe, same unlawful they remove him from JOB, case in CMA.

 

[Roman Israel Esq]

Really? Why would anyone want to hire an expat for $4000 a month if the problem is "poor rules and regulations on our labor industry"? So poor labor rules and regulations only apply to expats?

That's not what's implied in your posting though.

$4,000 might sound too much for you. But do you know what his job entailed? You did not understand my point.

This is because of your question "why would anyone want to hire an expert for $4,000 a month if the problem is poor rules..."

Where is the connection, if any, btn someone getting 4,000 a month and poor rules and regulations in our labor department?.

If you didn't understand my point, i will rephrase...

First of, paying them $4,000, does not mean that it is too much of a pmt. Like if they hired a local, the payment or the overall employment package, will be of a lesser quality. They might be paying that amount, but still avoiding more cost(if it were a local).

And you can not just fire and deport a local employee! They might also demand more benefits.

 

[RISHBAH RAJ]

Wafanyi kazi wetuwa serekali ni watu ovyo sana, kazi yao ni kula hongo tuu.

Mr. British, i am not writing punctuation, writing case do you understand. Hope you must understand in such forum, we just pass messages. clear. Yes i am not English professor like you.

 

[Roman Israel Esq]

Tell us One Tanzania who is employeed by an Indian Company in India?

I know India inside out, probably i have travelled across India more than you. Looking at your name you must be be from Gujarat or Rajesthan states.

GSM is a useless company if it had employee a person withthis caliber of English. How were you writting your reports, i am sure a tanzanian clerk used to write reports for you.

A General Manager who doesnt know how to report his case in the right places, who needs JF forum to help him, who has unbinding international employment contract, who doesnt know how to lodge his complain in his own country???

Wana JF tuache kila jambo kulirukia bila kutafakari, hebu wenye uwezo wakaulize wafanyi kazi wa pahali alipikuwa bosi huyu mhindi, utasikia alivyokuwa akiwatesa, na kufanya upendeleo qa kuwasaidia wenzake. GSM wanamabovu yao mengi, lakini huyi mhindi ni mlaghai.

Sawa, lakini hapa kuna issue ya "mkataba", pamoja na sheria mbovu za kuhusiana na wizara ya kazi.

Inaonekana hawa GSM wana wanasiasa walioko mifukoni mwao, na wanapedelea hao wageni kwasababu wanaweza kuwatimua kutoka nchini muda wowote ule.

Ni kazi ambazo kama ingekuwa ni mtanzania mzawa, wangepata shida zaidi kumfukuza.Na pengine maslahi ama package ya kazi, ingeweza kuwa kubwa zaidi.

Two wrongs don't make one right!

GSM wamevunja mkataba wa kazi, na pia wanatumia sheria zetu vibaya na taifa linapata hasara. Hata kama "hakuwa mfanyakazi mzuri" kwa maoni yako, hilo haliwezi ku justify uvunjifu wa sheria. Haya ni mambo ya mikataba, na mikataba hulindwa na sheria na siyo mihemko wala hisia binafsi.

 

[Zygot]

Sir i will write you seperatly in mail box.

Rishbah. I will wait for the details of what is happening inside GSM but take my advice.
At JF we discuss a lot of issues and I have seen the government takes serious discussion into actions. However, for the benefits of the government actors, you need to give out details of what you are presenting. In fact don't hide whatever you know about GSM unless you need to come back to the same GSM.

So long as GSM decided to humiliate you and you feel that it's time now to have them pay the price of their stupidity, expose all misdeeds as much as you can. Don't limit yourself to the deportation incidence, say even their tax paying behaviour. what are they illegally doing, how are they disfavouring government functioning, etc. you don't have to be friendly to them anymore! We need such infos for us to squeeze their balls.

Then, don't be demoralized by attacks you are receiving around here. Some of GSM members will be attacking you in order to silence you. Don't be silent, disregard the attacks, continue exposing them even if you had illegal stay, it was their fault!

 

[Roman Israel Esq]

Rishbah. I will wait for the details of what is happening inside GSM but I need to advise you.
In JF we discuss a lot of issues and I have seen that the government takes serious discussion into actions. However, for the benefits of the government actors, you need to give out details of what you are presenting. In fact don't hide whatever you know about GSM unless you need to come back to same GSM.

So long as GSM decided to humiliate you and you feel that it's time now to have them pay the price of their stupidity, expose all misdeeds as much as you can. Don't limit yourself to the deportation incidence, say even their tax paying behaviour. what are they illegally doing, how are they disfavouring government functioning, etc. you don't have to be friendly to them anymore! We need such infos for us to squeeze their balls.

Then, don't be demoralized by attacks you are receiving here. Some of GSM members will be attacking you in order to silence you. Don't be silent, disregard the attacks, continue exposing them even if you had illegal stay, it was their fault!

Very well said!

Note: As per documents he provided, he was not staying illegally in the country.

He did attach his "contract of employment" on his first post.

His "employment contract", is valid through November 2019(a two year contract began on 2017)

 

[RISHBAH RAJ]

Tell us One Tanzania who is employeed by an Indian Company in India?

I know India inside out, probably i have travelled across India more than you. Looking at your name you must be be from Gujarat or Rajesthan states.

GSM is a useless company if it had employee a person withthis caliber of English. How were you writting your reports, i am sure a tanzanian clerk used to write reports for you.

A General Manager who doesnt know how to report his case in the right places, who needs JF forum to help him, who has unbinding international employment contract, who doesnt know how to lodge his complain in his own country???

Wana JF tuache kila jambo kulirukia bila kutafakari, hebu wenye uwezo wakaulize wafanyi kazi wa pahali alipikuwa bosi huyu mhindi, utasikia alivyokuwa akiwatesa, na kufanya upendeleo qa kuwasaidia wenzake. GSM wanamabovu yao mengi, lakini huyi mhindi ni mlaghai.

Let me answer you in detail.

I am delighted that you have been to India several times & we welcome you again.

By name if i said, i am Peter, so i would be Tanzanian, please grow up.
Regarding my calibre, you do not need to take tension because with such low calibre, i am doing tremendously fine in my profession.

I would happy to hire you as clerk, as you might correct the punctuation & grammar.
Case has been filed in multiple departments, but good part i get good lead and connection for right.

Hope you are clear so far. If not your luck.

 

[Mkirindi]

Sawa, lakini hapa kuna issue ya "mkataba", pamoja na sheria mbovu za kuhusiana na wizara ya kazi.

Inaonekana hawa GSM wana wanasiasa walioko mifukoni mwao, na wanapedelea hao wageni kwasababu wanaweza kuwatimua kutoka nchini muda wowote ule.

Ni kazi ambazo kama ingekuwa ni mtanzania mzawa, wangepata shida zaidi kumfukuza.Na pengine maslahi ama package ya kazi, ingeweza kuwa kubwa zaidi.

Two wrongs don't make one right!

GSM wamevunja mkataba wa kazi, na pia wanatumia sheria zetu vibaya na taifa linapata hasara. Hata kama "hakuwa mfanyakazi mzuri" kwa maoni yako, hilo haliwezi ku justify uvunjifu wa sheria. Haya ni mambo ya mikataba, na mikataba hulindwa na sheria na siyo mihemko wala hisia binafsi.

Ndugu, ukweli ni kwamba GSM na makampuni yote ya wahindi wakikosa wahindi wenzao wakitanzania, wanatulea hawa wa India.

Pili ni kazi rahisi sana kunfukuza kazi mtanzania kuliko mtu wa njee na wenye ubalozi nchini, kama anajua kuitumia sheria.

Kila leo ndugu zetu wanafukuzwa kazi kama mbwa na makampuni ya kizawa na yasiyo ya kizawa. Wachina hata wanawapiga watoto wetu, na kututukana, uozo ni sisi wenyewe.

Huyu angekua msambaa, mgoni au mgogo wengi wetu tusingejishughulisha na kesi yake.

Nimefanya biashara na wahindi wengi, hadi sasa nafanya nao biashara, wana usemi IN TANZANIA MAKE SURE YOU INSULT IR SLAP A TANZANIAN INFRONT OF HIS PEOPLE , AND THEY WILL FIGHT HIM TO DEFEND YOU AND YOUR MONEY.

 

[RISHBAH RAJ]

Rishbah. I will wait for the details of what is happening inside GSM but I need to advise you.
In JF we discuss a lot of issues and I have seen that the government takes serious discussion into actions. However, for the benefits of the government actors, you need to give out details of what you are presenting. In fact don't hide whatever you know about GSM unless you need to come back to same GSM.

So long as GSM decided to humiliate you and you feel that it's time now to have them pay the price of their stupidity, expose all misdeeds as much as you can. Don't limit yourself to the deportation incidence, say even their tax paying behaviour. what are they illegally doing, how are they disfavouring government functioning, etc. you don't have to be friendly to them anymore! We need such infos for us to squeeze their balls.

Then, don't be demoralized by attacks you are receiving here. Some of GSM members will be attacking you in order to silence you. Don't be silent, disregard the attacks, continue exposing them even if you had illegal stay, it was their fault!

Thanks, yes i shall be providing facts with proof and people involved with name and mobile... I am sure being CIO first need to trace him as he would like to place all data in clouds. or out of approach. He has been doing since last two months.

 

[Prof Griff]

$4,000 might sound too much for you. But do you know what his job entailed? You did not understand my point.

This is because of your question "why would anyone want to hire an expert for $4,000 a month if the problem is poor rules..."

Where is the connection, if any, btn someone getting 4,000 a month and poor rules and regulations in our labor department?.

If you didn't understand my point, i will rephrase...

First of, paying them $4,000, does not mean that it is too much of a pmt. Like if they hired a local, the payment or the overall employment package, will be of a lesser quality. They might be paying that amount, but still avoiding more cost(if it were a local).

And you can not just fire and deport a local employee! They might also demand more benefits.

Well and fair enough. But I still have problems with your earlier statement which I reproduce below. Mind providing clarification?

Even if there was some immigration officers to conduct the arrest, still this is a "lawful" procedure, and because of GSM's influence(politically), this was done without proper procedures.

 

[Mkirindi]

Rishbah. I will wait for the details of what is happening inside GSM but I need to advise you.
In JF we discuss a lot of issues and I have seen that the government takes serious discussion into actions. However, for the benefits of the government actors, you need to give out details of what you are presenting. In fact don't hide whatever you know about GSM unless you need to come back to same GSM.

So long as GSM decided to humiliate you and you feel that it's time now to have them pay the price of their stupidity, expose all misdeeds as much as you can. Don't limit yourself to the deportation incidence, say even their tax paying behaviour. what are they illegally doing, how are they disfavouring government functioning, etc. you don't have to be friendly to them anymore! We need such infos for us to squeeze their balls.

Then, don't be demoralized by attacks you are receiving here. Some of GSM members will be attacking you in order to silence you. Don't be silent, disregard the attacks, continue exposing them even if you had illegal stay, it was their fault!

Ndugu Zygot, if GSM wants to silence him they will not do it here, they know were he cones from, his village n house. If will just cost them 200 $ only to get the Indian police or goons to do the job.

 

[Roman Israel Esq]

Ndugu, ukweli ni kwamba GSM na makampuni yote ya wahindi wakikosa wahindi wenzao wakitanzania, wanatulea hawa wa India.

Pili ni kazi rahisi sana kunfukuza kazi mtanzania kuliko mtu wa njee na wenye ubalozi nchini, kama anajua kuitumia sheria.

Kila leo ndugu zetu wanafukuzwa kazi kama mbwa na makampuni ya kizawa na yasiyo ya kizawa. Wachina hata wanawapiga watoto wetu, na kututukana, uozo ni sisi wenyewe.

Huyu angekua msambaa, mgoni au mgogo wengi wetu tusingejishughulisha na kesi yake.

Nimefanya biashara na wahindi wengi, hadi sasa nafanya nao biashara, wana usemi IN TANZANIA MAKE SURE YOU INSULT IR SLAP A TANZANIAN INFRONT OF HIS PEOPLE , AND THEY WILL FIGHT HIM TO DEFEND YOU AND YOUR MONEY.

mkuu nakupata sana na tuko pamoja, ila nadhani hao wanaofukuzwa kama mbwa ni wale "labors", ambapo ni wachache sana watawatoa India ama hata waindi wa hapa.

Kwenye hizo positions za juu, watu mna negotiate salaries na siyo rahisi kuyumbishwa hovyo, labda uwe foreigner ambapo huwa kampuni zina mamlaka ya kuwafukuza na inaonekana kuhakikisha wanakuwa deported.

Kama nilivyosema hapo awali, ni hseria zetu mbovumbovu ndiyo maana hata hao ndugu zetu wanafukuzwa kazi kama mbwa.

Serikali ni lazima ilitupie macho hili suala badala ya kubakia kwenye siasa za kishenzi za kuzima upinzani nk.

 

[RISHBAH RAJ]

Thanks, yes i shall be providing facts with proof and people involved with name and mobile... I am sure being CIO first need to trace him as he would like to place all data in clouds. or out of approach. He has been doing since last two months.

Moahmmed Saleh 0787772012

 

[RISHBAH RAJ]

Ndugu Zygot, if GSM wants to silence him they will not do it here, they know were he cones from, his village n house. If will just cost them 200 $ only to get the Indian police or goons to do the job.

It is not Tanzania my friend, and good part i have al what you mentioned.

 

[Mr. MTUI]

Swali langu ni moja tu kwa GSM.Hivi hapa Tanzania hamkuweza kupata Mtanzania wa kumwajiri mpaka mlete muhindi mwenye kingereza kibovu kushinda hata cha kwangu.

Kaka tukiachana na lugha wahindi wapo vizuri sana kwenye management na kubana matumizi.. Thats why hakuna kampuni kubwa ya bongo isokuwa na muhindi.

 

[Mkirindi]

It is not Tanzania my friend, and good part i have al what you mentioned.

India is more corrupt than Tanzanian, you fool

 

[Roman Israel Esq]

Well and fair enough. But I still have problems with your earlier statement which I reproduce below. Mind providing clarification?

I did not see the firing letter, or any reason for his firing(at least he says he was not provided with).

He was taken(kidnapped in my opinion), denied any right, and straight to the airport. These are things only government will do. I have seen such actions, but not from the company.

I have seen the government doing such things(immediate deportation), without any notification. His properties ie phone was also confiscated(unlawfully)

 

[Volatility]

India is more corrupt than Tanzanian, you fool

Hello Mr. GSM stop insults.

 

[MTAZAMO]

Moahmmed Saleh 0787772012

Bro Salah hebu tafuta hii jamaa myamalize ...

 

[Roman Israel Esq]

India is more corrupt than Tanzanian, you fool

Nadhani tusigeuze hapa kuwa ni pahala pa ukabila nk. Rather, tutumie nafasi hii kujifunza mengi. Inawezekan una ndugu ambaowameathirika na watu hao, lakini tusikubali mihemko ikabadili mwelekeo na tukashindwa kujifunza. Hata viongozi wa serikali wanatakiwa kujifunza.

Things will be better only if you listen to other opinions.