Malumbano ya Spika Sitta na Mzee Mrema

[Luteni]

Nini tunakijadili hapa???????

Waliojitambulisha kama wapiganaji wako wapi, wamekufa vitani? au wamezidiwa nguvu na kukimbia kuokoa uhai wao (posho mbilimbili) wakati wafuasi wao wanauwawa.

NAWASHANGA WANA JF KULUMBANA KWA SABABU YA SITTA, i dont see the reason, Sita alituaminisha Watanzania wote kuwa wapiganaji watapigana mpaka mwisho na mungu atawasaidia wapiganaji watashinda, Je ushindi ndio huu?

SITTA KUWAAMBIA WATANZANIA KUWA ALIPONEA CHUPU CHUPU KUFUKUZWA CCM HAIMFANYI KUWA SHUJAA sana sana inathibitisha kuwa yeye ni mbwa koko (corward). Wangapi wamefia maslahi ya taifa? wangapi wanataabika kwa sababu walisimama imara kutetea maslahi ya taifa. ambalo Sitta leo ajipitishia posho kbao?

Tukiwa na viongozi waoga kama Sitta, Wanaoogopa kufukuzwa kwenye chama nchi itaenda wapi.

Mh Zitto alipofukuzwa bungeni kwa sababu ya Buzwagi na baadae ikathibitika kuwa alichokuwa anasema ni kweli ndiyo siku alipotuonyesha UZALENDO WA KWELI NA NDIYO HESHIMA ALIYONAYO MPAKA LEO KENYE JAMII YETU.

Kama Sitta ameogopa kufukuzwa basi na sisi tunaogopa kumpa heshima kama shujaa wetu.

Ama tuache kujadili au tukubali ukweli kuwa hatujui walipo wapambanaji wa ufisadi. Na Sitta si shujaa kwa sababu hakuna ushindi.

MUNGU IBARIKI TANZANIA.

Eti Mungu ibariki Tanzania ipi unayowatetea mafisadi na kuwapinga waliojitolea kupinga ufisadi ambao wewe unawaita mbwa koko shame on you

 

[Luteni]

Tatizo letu ni moja Tunaona sana madhaifu ya SITTA, ambae japo kajitahidi kutuonyesha namna wezi wanavyoiba mali ya UMMA, hata kama ameshindwa kulimalizia, nguvu ya Wabunge waoga ilikua kubwa, wengi ni bendera fuata upepo, na bila shaka wangekuja kutoa hoja yakupiga kura ya kutokua na Imani nae.
vyovyote iwavyo huyu jamaa SITTA amejitahidi sana, ameokoa Pesa nyingi kama Richmond na Dowans wangekua kwenye mkataba hadi leo.
Tunamuona SITTA mbaya tukiwasahau kina Lowassa, Karamagi, na wezi wengine wa mali ya Umma waliotuingiza kwenye matatizo.

Exactly nguvumali kwa sasa tunamuona Sitta ana kosa tunasahau waliosababisha hilo kosa ni sawa na kumlaumu hakimu na kusahau anayekabiliwa na kesi

 

[Kiby]

mie naona Mrema ndie ambae uzee umeposha uwezo wake, juhudi zake za kuwakomboa WaTZ wenzake, huyu ndie yule aliyekua anaunguruma TZ yote inatetemeka.
Ila mimi nawazo moja, A.Mrema amekuwa sehemu ya Usalama wa Taifa ile iliyokuwa ikiwavuruga na kuwatia vizuizini Watanzania , huyu ni miongoni na wale waliomlazimisha yule mkurugenzi wa Usalama wa Taifa ajiuzuru, huyu huenda alishiriki kwenye kuwapoteza WaTz wenzetu wengi.......sasa damu yao inamlilia Mrema , anaona mawenge kila mahala, anaweweseka, analia, anajuta na anaomboleza sasa.
na katika majuto hayo ndio uwendawazimu wake unaongezeka, Nimekusamehe mzee wa KIRARACHA.

Ni kweli damu za wingi zinamlilia na hata sii ajabu na ya Kombe aliyakuwa mkuu wa usalama kipindi cha Mwinyi inamlilia. Maana ndie aliyempanza kumpa siri za nchi akifikiri ni mpinzani kweli kumbe anajikabidhisha mikononi mwa mamluki wa ccm. Nami pia nimimsamehe bure mzee wa kiraracha.

 

[Edson]

we unafikiri siku zinaganda?!!

mamabo yanabadilika na yaya anabadilika
taratibu anarud nyumbani amekuzwa na kulelewa hapo
nyumban ni nyumba hata kama mnalala juu ya mwembe!
vinginevyo atasahaulika lazima awe ananyoosha kidole mara moja moja

 

[Future-Tanzania]

He is the overall overseer of whatever is happening in the country he has been entrusted to lead. Of course, akiona Bunge halikufanya kazi yake ipasavyo yeye anapaswa kuingilia kati na kurekebisha mambo. Your civics seems to be outdated!

Yes Boramaisha, my civics is outdated thus why i asked!!! could you then please outline spika duties? thanks

 

[Ben Saanane]

Mrema sasa anacheza siasa za kizamani.He's so desparate now.

Si mrema huyu huyu alikua anachekelea Nyerere kuzomewa pale uwanja wa mashujaa wakati mwl.akimpigia kampeni mkapa?

Si ni Mrema huyu huyu aliyeongoza maandamano watu wakapigwa tear gas kwa ajili yake?

His comment are bare insults kwa wale waliomuunga mkono muda wote.
Politicians wa Tanzania mbona wanakua hivi?

 

[Future-Tanzania]

Ina maana wewe tatizo lako kubwa ni la Sitta kusoma lile azimio la bunge na si wale wezi wa Richmond!

Luten the answer is BOTH... wizi umetendeka na its not the first time and its not the last.. But why? kwasababu people know they can get away with it very very easy... just like having a glass of wine with nyama choma...

Do you really think kama SITTA angekuwa mzalendo kama NYERERE angesoma au ata kukubali kuisoma kwenye baraza la wabunge CCM? DO you really think NYERERE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT?

TO me if Sitta was mpiganaji angesema clear and Loud to baraza la CCM.. I AM NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO LET IT BE... but he didnt, did he? why?

 

[Future-Tanzania]

Mrema sasa anacheza siasa za kizamani.He's so desparate now.

Si mrema huyu huyu alikua anachekelea Nyerere kuzomewa pale uwanja wa mashujaa wakati mwl.akimpigia kampeni mkapa?

Si ni Mrema huyu huyu aliyeongoza maandamano watu wakapigwa tear gas kwa ajili yake?

His comment are bare insults kwa wale waliomuunga mkono muda wote.
Politicians wa Tanzania mbona wanakua hivi?

so what is relevant of this in red? Kwamba Mrema hakutakiwa kumcheka mwl kumpigia kampeni Mkapa? what is so wrong about that...

 

[nguvumali]

Luten the answer is BOTH... wizi umetendeka na its not the first time and its not the last.. But why? kwasababu people know they can get away with it very very easy... just like having a glass of wine with nyama choma...

Do you really think kama SITTA angekuwa mzalendo kama NYERERE angesoma au ata kukubali kuisoma kwenye baraza la wabunge CCM? DO you really think NYERERE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT?

TO me if Sitta was mpiganaji angesema clear and Loud to baraza la CCM.. I AM NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO LET IT BE... but he didnt, did he? why?

anaweza kuwa na kasoro za hapa na pale, nyepesi ama nzito.
Ila Vita ya rushwa hajaiasisi yeye, alitimiza wajibu wake, alisimamia kuvunja mkataba ambao Serikali ilikua inapoteza TSH 152,000,000/= kwa siku, na hii ilikua inapaswa kuendelea hadi leo kwenye mgongo wa Dowans, hayo ndio mafanikio makubwa kwake kama SITTA , ameweza kuokoa pesa ambazo zinaweza kujenga maabara kwenye shule zetu kadhaa hapa TZ.
Bado hata kama kuna madhaifu ila kwa hayo mema aliyoyafanya ni heri kuliko mamia ya Wabunge walioshindwa kumtia moyo yeye binafsi na kamati nzima.

 

[Future-Tanzania]

Nyauba you are forgetting that this is assumed to be a free democratic country! Mrema anayo haki ya kubwabwaja utumbo wowote ule mradi havunji sheria na Sitta naye nje ya Bunge si Spika wa jukwaa la wananchi ni mwananchi huru mwenye haki hiyo hiyo ya kusema anachotaka popote pale mbele ya kadamnasi midhali havunji sheria. Hakuna mahali wanaposema viongozi wa CCM wanapaswa kufunga midomo yao mara wanapotoka kwenye vikao vya Chama na vya Bunge for that matter! Kama Mrema ametoa maneno ambayo kisheria anaweza kuchukuliwa hatua, so be it.

Wanaomsakama Sitta kwa kuendeleza mjadala wa Richmond baada ya mjadala kufungwa Bungeni wanasubiri nini kwenda kumshitaki maana 'kavunja sheria' ya Uspika wake? Kama inavyojidhihirisha humu bado watu hawajaridhishwa na mjadala huo wa Richmond kuvunjwa katika mazingira ya kutatanisha. Huenda Sitta 'alisalimu amri' kwa maslahi ya Taifa; who knows what conspired kwenye vikao nyeti vya CC, NEC na Wabunge CCM?

Ndugu hamna mtu aliyesema MREMA is right or wrong.. and so do MR SITTA...

Ila kama nikirecall vizuri, SITTA ni spika wa bunge na Spika ni mtu muhimu ndani ya kikao cha bunge na pia nje ya bunge.. na hii ata ikiwa out of office...

Question to you... mtu anawezaje kufungua kesi kwamba sitta amevunja mjadala wa Richmond na amekinuka sheria ya uspika wake while HIMSELF SAID THE MJADALA IS OVER!!! AND THE BUNGE HAS THE LAST SAY!!! TO MAKE AND BREAK THE LAW????

 

[nguvumali]

Ndugu hamna mtu aliyesema MREMA is right or wrong.. and so do MR SITTA...

Ila kama nikirecall vizuri, SITTA ni spika wa bunge na Spika ni mtu muhimu ndani ya kikao cha bunge na pia nje ya bunge.. na hii ata ikiwa out of office...

Question to you... mtu anawezaje kufungua kesi kwamba sitta amevunja mjadala wa Richmond na amekinuka sheria ya uspika wake while HIMSELF SAID THE MJADALA IS OVER!!! AND THE BUNGE HAS THE LAST SAY!!! TO MAKE AND BREAK THE LAW????

Thibitisha ni wapi SITTA amezungumzia mjadala wa Richmond nnje ya Bunge.
Sitta aliulizwa juu ya mkasa wa kunyang'anywa kadi ya chama, na mkasa huo ulisababishwa na mtifuano wa wahanga wa Richmond na wapiganaji.
sasa ulitaka adanganye ?
kutaja Richmond sikosa

 

[Audax]

Mambo ya siasa yana cri nyiiingi ndani yake. Kinachotolewa nje kinakuwa kimeshafanyiwa utafiti wa kutosha na kujadiliwa kuona kama kina manufaa kwa taifa.

 

[Future-Tanzania]

anaweza kuwa na kasoro za hapa na pale, nyepesi ama nzito.
Ila Vita ya rushwa hajaiasisi yeye, alitimiza wajibu wake, alisimamia kuvunja mkataba ambao Serikali ilikua inapoteza TSH 152,000,000/= kwa siku, na hii ilikua inapaswa kuendelea hadi leo kwenye mgongo wa Dowans, hayo ndio mafanikio makubwa kwake kama SITTA , ameweza kuokoa pesa ambazo zinaweza kujenga maabara kwenye shule zetu kadhaa hapa TZ.
Bado hata kama kuna madhaifu ila kwa hayo mema aliyoyafanya ni heri kuliko mamia ya Wabunge walioshindwa kumtia moyo yeye binafsi na kamati nzima.

Nguvumali, naungana na wee mkono.

Mimi sisemi kwamba sitta hajafanya kitu chochote kizuri kwa miaka aliyokuwa spika. naomba wanaJF wote alielewe hilo.. at the same time i can not give him 100% credit eti alisimamia kuvunja mkataba ambao Serikali ilikua inapoteza TSH 152,000,000/= kwa siku.. ile kazi was done by dr slaa... ( correct me kama im wrong).. Dr slaa ndie aliileta ile oja bungeni...

Iapart from that... my argumen na uchungu nilionao kuhusu Sitta na kwanini yeye si mpiganaji wa kweli ni yeye kukubali kufunga mjadala wa Richmond kwa matakwa ya baraza la wabunge CCM, and he did it for himself and CCM rather than us normal tanzanias.

 

[nguvumali]

Nguvumali, naungana na wee mkono.

Mimi sisemi kwamba sitta hajafanya kitu chochote kizuri kwa miaka aliyokuwa spika. naomba wanaJF wote alielewe hilo.. at the same time i can not give him 100% credit eti alisimamia kuvunja mkataba ambao Serikali ilikua inapoteza TSH 152,000,000/= kwa siku.. ile kazi was done by dr slaa... ( correct me kama im wrong).. Dr slaa ndie aliileta ile oja bungeni...

Iapart from that... my argumen na uchungu nilionao kuhusu Sitta na kwanini yeye si mpiganaji wa kweli ni yeye kukubali kufunga mjadala wa Richmond kwa matakwa ya baraza la wabunge CCM, and he did it for himself and CCM rather than us normal tanzanias.

yeye hiyo ndo weakness yake.
lakini kinachokera ni kufanya hilo ni kosa Ziito kuliko la wale wahuni walioliingiza taifa kwenye hasara kubwa na ya aina yake.

 

[Future-Tanzania]

Thibitisha ni wapi SITTA amezungumzia mjadala wa Richmond nnje ya Bunge.
Sitta aliulizwa juu ya mkasa wa kunyang'anywa kadi ya chama, na mkasa huo ulisababishwa na mtifuano wa wahanga wa Richmond na wapiganaji.
sasa ulitaka adanganye ?
kutaja Richmond sikosa

Nguvumali, unaweza kuonyesha sehemu yoyote kwenye comments zangu nilipo sema sitta amezungumzia mjadala wa Richmond nje ya Bunge please?

 

[nguvumali]

Nguvumali, unaweza kuonyesha sehemu yoyote kwenye comments zangu nilipo sema sitta amezungumzia mjadala wa Richmond nje ya Bunge please?

nafuta Hoja yangu, nimerejelea upya , kwenye ile quotes yangu, nikagundua ni wapi sikukusoma Vyema.

 

[nguvumali]

kweli nikimuangalia Mrema kwa makini, nakumbuka mwaka 1995 , naumia kuona kua alikua anatudanganya, huyu ni mtu hatari.
hivi hakuna namna ambayo unaweza kumshitaki mwanasiasa ambaye kwa kumuunga kwako mkono ulijikuta unapoteza hata mke ama mume, kisha anakuja kukugeuka na kuungana na wale aliokwambia ni wahovyo ?
hakuna namna yakudai fidia kwa ushenzi huo ?

 

[Future-Tanzania]

yeye hiyo ndo weakness yake.
lakini kinachokera ni kufanya hilo ni kosa Ziito kuliko la wale wahuni walioliingiza taifa kwenye hasara kubwa na ya aina yake.

No Nguvumali, you havent got my point right... Weakness ya SITTA ni kwamba yupo mguu mmoja nje mwingine ndani.. na hapa ndipo naungana na mrema.. anatry kuchenza mpira at the same time kuwa refa.. iko kitu akiwezekani..

mimi na wewe hatukuwa kwenye kikao cha ccm wakati anataka kunyanganywa hiyo kadi ya CCM so i cant comment on that... BUT what i can comment is what i know and heard... which is mjadala wa Richmond kufungwa... and that was only based on matakwa ya CCM.. what a shame..

swali la kujiuliza kama Sitta angekuwa kweli mpiganaji wa hii nchi against mafisadi.. kama vile Nyerere au Mandela kwanini hakustand by his morals not by matakwa ya mafisadi na what CCM wants...

 

[nguvumali]

Ndio hivyo tena wahenga wanasema kila lililo na mwanzo halikosi mwisho na huo ndio mwisho wa mzee wetu wa kiraracha,inasikitisha sana but no way out.

si kila ling'aaro ni dhahabu

 

[Future-Tanzania]

nafuta Hoja yangu, nimerejelea upya , kwenye ile quotes yangu, nikagundua ni wapi sikukusoma Vyema.

kwi kwi.. u made me laugh.. apology accepted.. mwambie Sitta aje JF kutuomba msamaha basi.. mwambie asione aibu tutamsameheee lol