Malaysia Airlines passenger jet reportedly shot down in Ukraine

[THE BIG SHOW]

The good thing that I like to Muslim is that, their brain can not differentiate between religion and politics issues, as you can see above, all mentioned things are just politics matters but the writer relates incidences with Muslim. Like the fighting that is on going between Israel and Palestine, Muslim are shouting all over the world as if it is religious war

Sasa kama sio religius war.

Kwanini nyinyi makafiri mnaishabikia israel kwa mauaji wanayofanya kwa kigezo kwamba eti ni taifa la mungu??

Hamjaingiza dini hapo??

Wagalatia siku zote hamna akili.

Taifa gani la mungu limwage damu??

Then israel hata mungu wenu yesu haimtambui

Sasa sijui mnajipendekeza kwann kwao.

 

[Bravo Mike]

Unaakili sana wewe..huu ni mpango wa marekani kuingia rasmi kijeshi hili eneo.

Marekani hawezi kuingia kijeshi hapo, huyo ni lame duck saivi, bado analamba majeraha , laiti tungelijua hilo...maafa na hasara aliopata Afghanistan na Iraq sio wa kunyanyuka leo huyo..!

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Exactly mkuu, this plane was downed by mistake!! These guys guys wameangusha ndege kama mbili last from Ukraine so I think they though that was a cargo plane wakaipiga kombola only later to realize it was a commercial plane. Hata ukiwaskiliza kwenye maongezi yao after the plane went down!

Nakubaliana na wewe kabisa mkuu kwa hili,very true.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Hivi Putin alipue ndege ya.abiria ili iweje???!! Yaani watu wazima mnasoma ----- wa magazeti ya.Ulaya.na.US mnakimbia kutoa povu eti Putin ameua RAIA KWENYE NDEGE!!! WHY SHOULD.RUSSIA DO THIS WHYY??? WHAT IS THE MOTIVE.BEHIND THIS!!!!

Well said Mkuu, mtu yeyote mwenye akili timamu anaona article hiyo imeandikwa ki-propaganda mno - Putin ni kiongozi aliye na akili zilizo tulia, hawezi hata siku moja akatoa directives za kijinga kama Wamerika wanavyo taka Dunia ikubaliane na propaganda zao. Matatizo ya wenzetu Wamerikani wamezoea kuandika stori za tamthilia za Hollywood, mahigizo hayo wakati mwingine utumika kuandika stori za kubuni kwenye magazeti. Mwandisi huyu wa New York Times anafuata katika nyayo hizo za kupewa handout za script za Hollywood.

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Hata kama ni ndege zote zilidharau ushauri muhimu kama huu inabaki pale pale waliweka pesa mbele kuliko maisha ya abiria...sasa Malaysia amekuwa mfano ndio wanaelewa huo ushauri ulikuwa na maana gani...

Kwa maneno mengine mtunguaji alikuwa kazini...wao wameingia kwenye anga zake za kazi...wana share blames na hao money mongers

mambo ya market economy hayo....kwani huyo anaye wa regulate (mamlaka husika) ni nani?...si wenyewe kwa wenyewe mabepari (industry self regulation) na wala si serikali zao...(state regulation)

Umeisoma lakini kaka? ule ulikua ni ushauri tu au angalizo, kama mamlaka husika hawakuzuia ulitegemea nini? na hata kwa mujibu wa habari hiyo ndege zote hazikuchange route ziliendelea kupitia route hihiyo sa kusema hao pekee eti wanatamaa sio sawa, ndege zote zilikua zikifata hiyo route.

 

[Kimweri]

Jamani msitoane macho bure, hilo anga la UKRAINE kwa sasa ni risk zone, hata ukimuuliza kuku kwenye banda atakujibu hivyo.,
Malaysian Airline and so are many airlines are in tight financial situation now, and cutting down 100 miles or so, is a feasible thing to do.Air controller wa Ukraine pia wako responsible, kwani wameruhusu ndege ipite kwenye anga ambayo hawana control nayo,hili ni kosa. MAREKANI na ndugu zake wanajaribu kwa nguvu zote kulificha hili lakini liko wazi.

Makosa ya Mrusi ni implied, si kwa kuwa mie ni muuza silaha, basi makosa ya silaha hiyo yaletwe kwangu, Marekani kauza silaha ngapi duniani hapa?probably rocket launchers za Israel zinazoua watu gaza zimetoka lockerhead etc, hii haiwafanyi walaaniwe wamarekani, bali lawama wanapelekewa waizrael.

hawa waasi wa UKRAINE kosa lao ni kutokujua hii ni ndege ya abiria, inawezekana ni kutokana na ujuzi mdogo, au kukosekana kwa utii wa kivita,lakini inawezekana pia ni mtego ukraine wamewawekea kwa kuruhusu nege kwenye hot zone. Pata Picha mwanajeshi wa waasi kaambiwa anything that flies shoot down, unafikiri atakuwa na muda wa kujiuliza hii ni ndege ya abiria au ya kivita?hivi watu mnakuwa kama hamjui kinachoendelea kwenye vita?vita ni shoot first ask later.utakubali ufe ndio uverify ile ilikuwa sio ndege ya abiria?kwa mwanajeshi hii sio rahisi.especially mwanajeshi ambaye yuko disoriented na gun noises all day all year.

UKIANGALIA rhetoric ya kila kiongozi wa marekani ni RUSSIA,RUSSIA, RUSSIA, wakati russia hawako active vitani,hii support ya separatists imeanzan leo?wamarekani wanasahau kuwa separtists wao wa Libya na Syria wanachinjana an kuchinja raia wa kawaida pia?what do you expect from picking up criminals and handle them weapons?

it is really bad for Malaysian Airlines for being caught up in the shittiest corner of the world politics.They sure can't catch a break this year.

 

[Kimweri]

Hivi Putin alipue ndege ya.abiria ili iweje???!! Yaani watu wazima mnasoma ----- wa magazeti ya.Ulaya.na.US mnakimbia kutoa povu eti Putin ameua RAIA KWENYE NDEGE!!! WHY SHOULD.RUSSIA DO THIS WHYY??? WHAT IS THE MOTIVE.BEHIND THIS!!!!

Behind every crime there is a motive, good Crime investigator starts at the motive. It is pretty obvious that there is no such motive on Russian's side, but rather, the motive is in Ukraine and its supporters, they are the one benefiting from this downing of the airplane. Kama unabisha in a few weeks utaona Ukraine wanapewa mkopo wa silaha from the west, sanction za russia zinaongezwa etc etc.

hao rebels hawapati faida yoyote kwa hii shooting down, hence it creates a HUGE hole in the concept that they willingly downed the airplane.more likely they were tricked by Ukraine into downing it. How does a Ukrainian Air controller allows a civilian airline to fly in a war zone that just downed 2 military planes a few days ago?

 

[white wizard]

mkuu umeongea kweli kabisa hata mimi nashindwa kuamini,ila inawezekana waasi wa Ukraine wameidungua kimakosa,pengine walidhani ni ndege ya Ukraine.hata hivyo hii sssa imekua ni mtaji wa Marekani kibana Russia.Lakini namini Russia haitaingia mtegoni kitoto.

Unachotakiwa kuelewa hapa, sio kwamba majeshi ya urusi ndio yame itungua hiyo ndege, kinachozungumziwa hapa na nchi za magharibi ni kuwa hao waasi wa Ukraine ndio wameidungua hiyo ndege na Urusi ndiye anayewasaidia hao waasi kwa kuwapa mafunzo na vifaa.Na hata hilo kombora lililotumika waasi kama waasi hawana uwezo wa kuwa nalo.na kama ni mfuatiliaji mzuri wa mzozo huo tangu mwezi june wameshatungua ndege ngapi? tena nyingine ilikuwa ya kiraia kabisa!!! na watu wote walikufa.Na ndio maana hadi sasa bado wanawazuia wachunguzi wa kimataifa kufika eneo la tukio na hata black box za hiyo ndege wanavyo wenyewe!!!!!! hizi shutuma Putin hawezi akazikwepa kamwe.

 

[Mahmood]

Usituandikie utumbo wako hapa.
Nini ukijuacho wewe mshamba tu!

We unadhani mechi ya mpira wa soksi huu.

Mnfnssssss!
Nyambafff kabisa.

Hii ndege imelipuliwa na magaidi wa kikristo.

 

[Mahmood]

Ugaidi ni kuua watu kwa mgongo wa dini au kwa niaba ya dini/mungu unaemwabudu.

Mtu yoyote anaeua watu kwa mgongo wa dini,awe mkristo/muislam ni ugaidi.

Tofauti ya tukio la kuangushwa ndege ya malezia na ugaidi ni kwamba waasi hawakufanya vile kwa jina la mungu.

Acha uongo wee, hiyo definition umeitoa katika dictionary gani? muongo wee.

Maana ya ugaidi ni terrorism.


terrorism (ugaidi) ni;

1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.

3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

 

[kahtaan]

Ugaidi ni kuua watu kwa mgongo wa dini au kwa niaba ya dini/mungu unaemwabudu.

Mtu yoyote anaeua watu kwa mgongo wa dini,awe mkristo/muislam ni ugaidi.

Tofauti ya tukio la kuangushwa ndege ya malezia na ugaidi ni kwamba waasi hawakufanya vile kwa jina la mungu.

Acha uongo wee, hiyo definition umeitoa katika dictionary gani? muongo wee.

Mkuu Mahmood hizo ndio zile dictionary za kutoka Vatican ambazo uongo na ubakaji wa watoto wadogo MAANA yake ni IBADA!

Hawa makafiri ni viumbe wa ajabu kuliko majinni.

 

[Synthesizer]

Secretary wa State wa Marekani (kama Waziri wa Mambo ya Nje) ametoa kile kinachoonwa ushahidi wa jinsi Uruss inavyohusika na utinguaji wa ndege ya Urusi.

Kerry amesema siku zote hizi Marekani imekuwa ikitumia satelite zake kuangalia matukio yanavyoendelea katika eneo la Ukraine. Kerry amesema hivi karibuni waliona silaha za kutungulia ndege pamoja na vifari vikipelekwa kwa Waasi wa Ukraine kutoka Urusi, pamoja na Kombora lililotumika kuangusha ndege ya Malaysia.

Kerry ameendelea kusema kwa kutumia satelite waliona eneo kombora lililotungua ndege lilipokuwa, na kwamba siku ndege ilipotunguliwa waliona kombora likitoka kwenye silaha hiyo, na baadaye kidogo mlipuko katika anga ilipopita ndege hiyo ya Malaysia.

Kerry aliendelea kusema baada ya kugundua kwamba wametungua ndege ya abiria, kombora lililotumika liliondolewa na kukimbizwa kwenda kufichwa tena Urusi, pamoja na makombora mengine ya aina yake.

Kerry amemalizia kusema kwamba haina shaka kuhusu kuhusika kwa Urusi, na kwamba ulimwengu uanze kufikiria jinsi ya kuiwekea Urusi vikwazo zaidi.

Katika kile kinachoonekana kuwa ni umbea wa Urusi, ilikuwa ni Raisi wa Urusi Putin aliyempigia simu Obama muda mfupi baada ya kuangushwa kwa ndege akamueleza juu ya tukio hilo.

Source: Reuters

 

[Ruge Opinion]

There is no doubt that the pro Russia separatists in Ukraine downed the aircraft. The issue is whether it was done with the approval of Putin & Co. or not. But quite astonishingly, these separatists hurriedly spotted the aircraft's black box and sent it to Moscow!!! Is this not a plan to decode and manipulate it? It is high time Russia is separated from the rest of the civilized world.

What is your evidence that the black box was sent to Moscow, if at all it has been recovered by the rebels? And what is the 'civilized world' you are referring to? How many acts like those have been committed by your so-called civilized world? To remind you sometime back the American navy downed an Iranian civilian passenger plane in the Gulf. They simply said it was a mistake and no big deal was made about the incident by the Western press. Just because most of the passengers were Iranians. Lesser human beings. I don't understand why the Ukrainian military is completely excluded from the possibility of having downed the plane. They have the same military equipment from Russia. At least they should investigate before making definite conclusions.

 

[Babylon]

[h=1]The last selfie: Dutch boy, 15, posted picture with mother on board doomed Flight MH17 moments before take-off[/h]

• Gary Slok, 15, and mother Petra Langeveld were going on holiday
• 'Took selfie and posted it to Facebook moments before take-off'
• Both were killed three hours later when missile hit Flight MH17
• Gary was one of 80 youngsters killed in crash over Ukraine on Thursday
  

This carefree selfie of a mother and son smiling into the camera was taken aboard the doomed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, it is claimed.
Gary Slok, 15, and his mother Petra Langeveld both lost their lives when a missile shot down the Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur plane as it flew over eastern Ukraine.
The pair were heading to a holiday designed for single parents and their children.
But just three hours after apparently posing for this picture, they were killed alongside 296 other passengers and crew members.
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Tragic: Dutch teenager Gary Slok, 15, poses with his mother Petra Langeveld in a selfie apparently taken aboard doomed flight MH17 moments before they took off from Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport


Gary, a goalkeeper for his local football club in Maassluis, western Holland, was one of 80 youngsters who lost their lives in the horror crash on Thursday.
He was described by teammates as 'wonderful'.



A statement released by the club said: 'Gary and his mum Petra were on their way to Malaysia to have the dream holiday of their life.

'Sadly they never got the chance to fulfil that dream.

'But his story and his last picture tell you how dreams of many people with wonderful lives ahead of them have been wrecked.'


Images of 22 other children killed in the crash - just a quarter of the total dead - have emerged today.
Australian mother Rin Norris lost her father Nick and her three children Mo, 12, Evie, ten and eight-year-old Otis.

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Tributes: Gary is one of the 173 Dutch fatalities, for whom there are tributes laid out at Schiphol Airport
Flower tributes to victims of MH17 at Schiphol airport

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Candlelit tributes: Mourners have held vigils across the world from Holland to Malaysia (pictured) for the 298 dead


The children were flying home with their grandfather after a family holiday in Europe, while Miss Norris and partner Anthony Maslin stayed in Amsterdam for a few extra days.

Three babies were among the dead, including 21-month-old Kaela Goes, killed with her parents as they flew home to Malaysia after visiting relatives in Holland.

Two families from the same street in the Netherlands were also killed.

Tess and Liv Trugg, aged ten and eight, and their neighbour Sem Wels, ten, died with their parents en route to a holiday in Bali.

Five-year-old Martin Paulissen and his sister Sri, three, died with their parents as they travelled to visit their grandmother’s grave in Indonesia.


A Malaysian family of six – including four children aged 13 to 19 – were killed as they journeyed home together.

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Heartfelt: Today, Holland's King Willem Alexander signed a condolence book paying tribute to the Dutch fatalities

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People have been lining up for the past three days to sign the register at Schiphol airport in Amsterdam


And among the dead were the sons of British banker Andrew Hoare and his Dutch wife Estella.



The 59-year-old from Frome, Somerset, was taking his sons Friso, 12, and Jasper, 15, trekking in the rainforest of Borneo.

Another British father John Allen, 44, died with his Dutch wife Sandra and their three sons Ian, Julian and Christopher, aged eight to 16, as they travelled to Indonesia.

Today, the bodies of the 298 passengers and crew members were finally retrieved from the crash site in eastern Ukraine and loaded into a refrigerated train.

Three days after the disaster, negotiations are still ongoing to repatriate the bodies amid claims they are being held by pro-Russian separatists as a bargaining tool.

Vladimir Putin was facing mounting pressure as details emerged of a phone call between senior Russian fighters allegedly planning to hide the black boxes.

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[Maria Roza]

RIP inasikitisha sn

 

[Aza]

Maria Roza upo????

 

[Maria Roza]

Maria Roza upo????

Nipooooo :second:

 

[Aza]

nimekumiss vibaya mno

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Kuna mmoja ame analyse vizuri...kosa la Russia ni silaha yake kutumika na rabels...hao US silaha zao zimeua wangapi ? (refer Israel na wapalestina)...

Labda ndio sababu Netherlands mpaka sasa iko kimya ingawa ndiyo imepoteza raia wengi zaidi...wana tread carefully...

Wakiambiwa waache michezo ya kutengeneza silaha siyo ma-toy hayo... hawasikii...

 

[nyumba kubwa]

Hao wachunguzi wa 'kimataifa' wanatokea UN au nchi gani?...hivi wewe unadhani kwenye situation kama hiyo kuna cha kumuamini 'mchunguzi wa kimataifa'?...hiyo ni vita kaka...hakuna masharti wala vigezo wala kuchagua silaha wala kuaminiana' mchunguzi aweza kuwa spy...

Unachotakiwa kuelewa hapa, sio kwamba majeshi ya urusi ndio yame itungua hiyo ndege, kinachozungumziwa hapa na nchi za magharibi ni kuwa hao waasi wa Ukraine ndio wameidungua hiyo ndege na Urusi ndiye anayewasaidia hao waasi kwa kuwapa mafunzo na vifaa.Na hata hilo kombora lililotumika waasi kama waasi hawana uwezo wa kuwa nalo.na kama ni mfuatiliaji mzuri wa mzozo huo tangu mwezi june wameshatungua ndege ngapi? tena nyingine ilikuwa ya kiraia kabisa!!! na watu wote walikufa.Na ndio maana hadi sasa bado wanawazuia wachunguzi wa kimataifa kufika eneo la tukio na hata black box za hiyo ndege wanavyo wenyewe!!!!!! hizi shutuma Putin hawezi akazikwepa kamwe.