Loliondo cup: Fellow Tanzanians lets grow up

Loliondo cup: Fellow Tanzanians lets grow up

Angekuwa mzungu ndio kagundua kikombe bac ingekuwa mwa! babu bado tuko bush ook!
 
It really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (AIDS, diabetes, Pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow Tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
Please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
This also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.

Tatizo langu kubwa ni "matumizi mabaya ya Lugha"!

Kama ulienda Loliondo ama la, hilo ni suala binafsi - Sasa unapoandikia hivi: "No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have".. inanipa shida kukufautisha na walionda Loliondo
 
Tatizo langu kubwa ni "matumizi mabaya ya Lugha"!

Kama ulienda Loliondo ama la, hilo ni suala binafsi - Sasa unapoandikia hivi: "No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have".. inanipa shida kukufautisha na walionda Loliondo

hapo kwenye red na mimi napata shida kidogo kama ulikua makini
 
Tatizo langu kubwa ni "matumizi mabaya ya Lugha"!

Kama ulienda Loliondo ama la, hilo ni suala binafsi - Sasa unapoandikia hivi: "No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have".. inanipa shida kukufautisha na walionda Loliondo

Makosa ya spelling ni common kwangu, hivyo naomba tu ujadili ujumbe, siyo spelling.
 
It really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (AIDS, diabetes, Pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow Tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
Please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
This also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.

Mimi niko upande wako lakini amini tuu kuwa watu wanapona. Namfahamu dada mmoja mguu ulikuwa umevimba hakuweza kutembea kwa zaidi ya miaka minne leo hii anatembea bila hata kuchechemea, uvimbe umeisha kabisa. Kuna mama mmoja presha + sukari vilikuwa juu; Jumapili tulikuwa naye kwenye kikao amekula chapati bila wasiwasi. Kama una ndugu yako hata mwenye "STROKE" mpeleke na matokeo utayaona.
 
I miss home for sure man! One cup of soup and you are cured!
 
It really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (AIDS, diabetes, Pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow Tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
Please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
This also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.

Watanzania huwa hawapendi kwenda nje ya miji mikubwa.Kwanza ni dar ikibounce wanataka pangiwa arusha mjini."remember kantalamba High school..wangai walifika".Wachungaji nao hawakupapenda sana babu kachagua...kajichimbia huko ktk kuchunga kondoo....Kichekesho babu kapiga golden goal...ktk 200 yake kati 500X(vichwa 1,000,000/= ambavyo vitafika soon)=200,000,000/= Nani atapata NSSF+PPF+LAPF +++ ...Sio miracle hiyo..?:tongue: Now Hata JK kapiga foleni sijui hata km ktk kampeni aliwahi fika kijijini..?Nawe pia rudi kabla hujafuata kikombe..haha. wapo wanonea donge 200/= wakati makanisani kwao kila siku wanapokea zaidi.Na makanisa yao ni taasisi binafsi. Mr. God naye anamatia Pension.
 
Kwa hii thread you are the most fulishman i ever heard under the sun! Wanakunywa wao uwashwe wewe?? Wewe umewahi kuleta kipi cha ajabu ndani ya jamii yako...! Wenye kwenda waacheni wakanywe...kama wewe hutaki funga domo lako, and let baba with his people be!
it really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (aids, diabetes, pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
this also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.
 
Ebu wakubwa nifahamisheni kuhusu dawa hii. Yaani baada ya watu kujitokeza kqamba hawajapona ndio dawa hii imekuwa ya kiimani? Hivi kweli kuna mgpnjwa alokwenda Loliondo hakuamini kwamba atapona, au imani hii ya kiroho lazima uwe Mkristu?..
Na kama ndivyo mbona wapo Waislaam na wasioabudu kabisaa pia wanadai pia kupona?

Ni vizuri sana tuwe na subira kujibu hoja zinazojitokeza na nadhani ipo haja kubwa ya dawa hii kufanyiwa uchunguzi wakati wananchi wakiendelea kunywa kwani inahitajika sana kujenga imani za watu.. Kufuru zimezidi.
serikali ikizuia zoezi hili nadhani watakuwa na mtihani mgumu Sana kisiasa.
Watu wamepoteza kabisa tumaini na sasa kazi hii wamemwachia Mungu,
Yawezekana kabisa Mwenyezi Mungu kakiosikia kilio chao ka,ma sii changa la Macho kutokana na udhaifu wetu kifikra..
Nafikiri hata wazungu wamekosea sana kuiita Africa ni dunia ya tatu - third world ilipasa kuitwa - Third thinking, kwani ni watu wake ndio maajabu ya kifira sio ardhi yao...

Binafsi naamini kabisa wagonjwa wengi sana kama sii wote ni watu wasiofuata dini yaani sii watu tunaowaita walokole wenya imani ya kiroho, na hakuna sharti la dawa hii kumrudia Yesu kristu...
 
Unaonekana ni mtu ambaye kwanza huna ufahamu wa kutosha ktk kutofautisha kati ya mambo ya imani na huu ulimwengu wa kawaida.pia ukae ukijua kwamba idadi kubwa ya madawa ambayo wewe unaamini ni ya kisasa na ya kisayansi,yote yametokana na mimea kama dawa ambayo mchungaji yule anaitumia kuponya magonjwa mbali mbali sugu.
Na pia nina mashaka juu uelewa wako wa katiba ambayo imetoa uhuru wa kuamini imani mtu aipendaye ambayo ni sanjari na kupata huduma za kiroho kama afanyavyo mchungaji kuokoa maisha ya watu.pia unaonekana hujali maisha ya watu wengine kwa sababu hufurahishwi kuona watu wakipona kutokana na magonjwa sugu na kushiri ktk ujenzi wa taifa.
Wasiwasi wangu ni kwamba,huenda wewe ni mmoja ya watu walioshindwa kupona baada ya kunywa dawa ya babu kutokana imani na uhaba wa imani.na hatimaye umeamua kutumia ile falsafa ya sungura tuliyopata kusoma shule ya msingi,pale alipodiriki kusema 'sizitaki mbichi hizi baada ya kuzikosa'.
Kama umetumwa waambie HATUDANGANYIKI.
Kwanza napoteza muda,ngoja niwahi kwa babu kupata kikombe.
 
Its name was derived from a monks dream in which St. Michael the Archangel appeared telling the monk what herb to use to help victims of the bubonic plague that was decimating Europe in 1665. (Grieve 36) When it was discovered that this herb was helpful in protecting and healing those that had the plague the country side was very nearly stripped of the plant by peasants and nobility alike. Old chronicles report that anyone who kept a piece of angelica root in their mouth all through the day would be preserved from the plague.

Thanks for your briliant contributions that show how herbal cured people long time ago. It relates significantly with the ways herbal teratment- a cup- in lolindo emanted. It is good to be proud of it rather than having western idealistic views; that a good thing is always come from white guys!! No one has questioned chinese herb medicine, but when it comes to loliondo case (a cup of herb medicine) brainwashed guys are narrowly questioning about it!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for your contribution of the past realites which related significantly with the current herb treatment-a cup- in loliondo!!! we have to be pTththharoud of ourselves; rather than thinking every good things emanates from white guys!!
 
It really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (AIDS, diabetes, Pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow Tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
Please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
This also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.

I see you are the one fooled by this 'wonder medicine', how can you disprove something without evidence, what about people who were known to be sick by other fellows and have witnessed to be cured by this medicine? Do you think they are liars? and if so, for whose benefit?
It looks strange to you that such stubborn diseases can be cured by just drinking a single cup of the medicine, i say yes it's strange but it seems you would believe if it can cure by bathing with it! or by drinking a tank full of the medicine!!
some diseases tha can be cured today were known to be stubborn time a go but nowadays can be cured by swallowing just a small pill!! and yet it's not strange to you!
When you say he should publish it so as to get Nobel Prize, what kind of publishing do you want? the issue is already in the media everywhere and thousands of people go there to get treatment, and if he deserves a Nobel Prize he will get it according to the rules and procedures and not just like that as you wish!!
You know Mzee Kipara people with such minds like yours I usually term them as 'Raped Minds' and i'm sorry for that.
The main issue which we should argue about is whether the medicine cures or not,period.
Don't judge about the way the medicine looks like, how it is administered, it's preparation and the conditions given provided that are not associated with witchcraft which i believe nobody has proved so.
 
It's a brilliant piece of advice.

Brilliant as your advice is, however, I think a much bigger piece of advice should be directed at the 18+ olds in this country (you and I included) who have played a significant role in plunging our blessed nation into the deep woes it is going thru now.

Yes....it's you & I (thru the ballot box) who have caused all this Loliondo desperation.

You & I need to grow up.....and fast!!
 
It really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (AIDS, diabetes, Pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow Tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
Please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
This also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.

It's a brilliant piece of advice.

Brilliant as your advice is, however, I think a much bigger piece of advice should be directed at the 18+ olds in this country (you and I included) who have played a significant role in plunging our blessed nation into the deep woes it is going thru now.

Yes....it's you & I (thru the ballot box) who have caused all this Loliondo desperation.

You & I need to grow up.....and fast!!
 
GOOD WORK MA GUY! waondoe viini macho hao walioleweshwa na UMAGHARIBI na UCHINA! angekuwa ni white person UNGEONA wanavyoshadidia! very GOODEST INDEED!

ANGELICA ARCHANGELICA
by Maxine MaederThis site brought to you by The School of Natural Healing & Christopher Publications

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MIMI NAAMINI KWA KUJITIA MSOMI SANA UTAKUWA UNAWAAMINI SANA WAZUNGU, BASI MTI HUO NDIO ULIWAOKOA WAZUNGU KATIKA JANAG LA TAUNI KATIKA KARNE YA 16 ENDELEA KUSOMA.
Angelica archangelica (Linn.) (Apiaceae/Umbelliferae) is also known as Angelica officinalis and is differentiated from other popular species in use as the European Angelica. The other two most commonly used species are called Angelica atropurpurea (American) and Angelica sinensis (Chinese), known as dong quai. In English it is simply called Angelica. In China and Asia use of angelica species are second only to ginseng.


Its name was derived from a monks dream in which St. Michael the Archangel appeared telling the monk what herb to use to help victims of the bubonic plague that was decimating Europe in 1665. (Grieve 36) When it was discovered that this herb was helpful in protecting and healing those that had the plague the country side was very nearly stripped of the plant by peasants and nobility alike. Old chronicles report that anyone who kept a piece of angelica root in their mouth all through the day would be preserved from the plague. This herb blooms about May 8th, (old calender) St. Michael's feast day and is so named in his honor. Even though this herb is named in honor of a Christian angel many angelica festivals are held in Livonia, East Prussia and Pomerania and celebrated in the pagan manner with dance and chanting of ancient ditties in languages no longer understood. European angelica has been viewed as a magical herb for more than 1000 years. Peasants made angelica leaf necklaces to protect their children from illness and witchcraft. Witches were reported never to use angelica and if it was in woman's garden or home it was her defense against witchcraft charges.

There are more than 60 species of medicinal plants belonging to the genus Angelica world-wide and thirty some species in the British Isles. Many have long been used in ancient traditional medicine systems, especially in the far east. Chinese Angelica (Dong quai) has a history of more than 4000 years of use and is referred to as the 'female ginseng' even though it is used for both genders and for all sorts of body ailments. Many herbal preparations are sold over-the-counter in far eastern countries, but also in countries like the United States, the United Kingdom and France.

"When European colonists arrived in North America, they found many Indian tribes using American angelica in the same way as their own healers used the European species; to treat respiratory ailments, in particular tuberculosis." (Castleman 46) Eventually the colonists realized that using larger doses would induce abortion.

The German Government's Commission E which approves of herbs and drugs for human use includes Anglica archangelica on its list. The root is the only part in the official Austrian, German and Swiss Pharmacopceias.

Angelica Archangelica is a biennial or perennial herb. "It is biennial only in the botanical sense of that term, that is to say, it is neither annual, nor naturally perennial; the seedlings make little advance towards maturity within twelve months, while old plants die off after seeding once [...] (Grieve 36). Angelica seems to not have much problems with attracting insect pests with the exception of the small two-winged fly whose eggs are leaf miners.

The stem is round, grooved, hollow, branched near the top, tinged with blue. The plant grows 3 to 8 feet tall. The leaves grow from dilated sheaths that surround the stem on long, stout, hollow footstalks that are as much as three feet in length. They are reddish purple at the much dilated, clasping bases. The blades are bright green in color, deeply cut into and composed of numerous small leaflets that are divided into three principal groups which are subdivided into three lesser groups. The edges of the leaflets are finely serrated. The yellow to greenish to white flowers appear from May to August in large, globular umbels. The blossom is followed by pale yellow elliptic-oblong fruit that it composed of two yellow winged seeds being 1/6 to 1/4 inch in length when ripe. The seed will have membraneous edges, be flattened on one side, convex on the other side and have three prominent ribs. If angelica is going to be propagated from the seed it should be done as soon as the seed is ripe in August or early September. The seeds tend to lose their vitality for germination rapidly. The root is long and spindle-like, thick and fleshy.

Some specimen can weight as much as three pounds and may have many long descending rootlets. Propagation can sometimes be done from the division of old roots and from the off-shoots of two-year old plants that have been harvested for the use of the stems.

Young seedlings are amenable to transplanting but not older mature plants. They should be planted about 18 inches apart for the first years growth then moved to about three feet apart in the autumn for the permanent site. In some areas of India and China the plants are raised in large pots and considered decorative as well as healthy to have in and around the home. The odor and taste are pleasantly aromatic. Angelica is a unique member of Umbelliferae as it has a pervading aromatic odor entirely different from the other members such as Fennel, Parsley, Anise, Caraway or Chervil. Various old herbalists compare the odor to the Musk or Juniper. The root is the most aromatic with the other parts containing the same flavor but the active ingredients being more perishable. A wild variety called Wild Angelica (Angelica sylvestris, Linn) will yield a yellow dye from the stalk and roots.

Angelica archangelica is edible when the root is peeled and boiled but most other species are strongly medicinal. The tender leaflets of the blades of the leaves can be used in place of spinach if the bitter taste does not offend you. The lightly steamed and blanched mid-ribs of the leaf can be used as celery and is quite delicious. Icelanders are said to eat both the stem and roots raw, with butter. In Lapland the stalks are regarded as a great delicacy when the leaves are stripped off before flowering and the peel is removed. The Finlanders eat the young stems baked in hot ashes. They also have a hot or cold infusion of the dried herb that is drank. The flavor is rather bitter and is the color of pale to greenish-grey. It resembles Green Tea. It has also been a practice in the past in the British Isles to place some fresh angelica in a pot of boiling fish. Norwegians make a bread out of the roots. The roots, leaves and seeds are for medicinal purposes. Dried leaves because of their aroma are used in the preparation of hops bitters. The roots should be harvested in the autumn of the first year and thinly sliced longitudinally to hasten the drying process. The dried root should then be placed in air-tight containers.

When preserved in this manner they will retain the medicinal quality for many years.

A fresh root has a yellowish to grey epidermis and when bruised yields a honey colored juice that has all the aromatic properties of the plant. If incised in the bark of the stem and upper root in the beginning of spring the same resinous sap/gum will exude. It has a flavor of musk benzoin, which both the sap/gum and the juice can be substituted. A dried root, as it appears commercially, is greyish brown and very wrinkled externally, whitish and spongy internally. It will break with a starchy fracture, exhibiting shiney resinous spots. The odor will be strong and fragrant with the taste at first being sweetish, then turning warm, aromatic, bitter and musky. These properties are best extracted with alcohol but can to a lesser degree be extracted by water. Usually the plant develops a tall flowering stem after the third or fourth year; this is used for culinary or confectionery use and actually prolongs the life of the plant for many seasons. The stem should then be cut at the base thus practically insuring that the plants become perennial.

Unless seeds are desired, the tops should be cut at or before flowering time. This prolongs the life of the plant for several years because of the side shoots around the root head.

If the whole plant is to be used for medicinal use it should be collected in June and cut just above the root. The roots, young stems, leaf petioles and mid-ribs are steeped in syrups of increasing strength to produce candied angelica. Seeds are used for flavoring in beverages, cakes and candies. Oil steam distilled from the seeds and roots is used in flavorings and alcoholic liquors such as benedictine and chartreuse. It is also combined with Juniper berries for the flavoring of gin and vermouth. The fruits of angelica contain a higher percentage of oil than the rest of the plant althought the root oil is considered superior to the oils obtained from the other parts of the plant. The root of the American angelica is quite acrid and considered poisonous in the fresh state. When the root is thoroughly dried it loses its acridity and is safe to use. Home gardeners should be very careful that the root is thoroughly dried before using them as herbs. In the wild it is very easy to confuse angelica with water hemlock (Cicuta maculata) which is an extremely poisonous plant. If wildcrafting would be best to do it with an experienced botanist.
http://http://www.herballegacy.com/Maeder_History.html
 
Nasubiri Tangazo la Biashara la Loliondo liishe tuendelee na movie yetu ya Dowans.
 
It really amazes me how the whole nation can be fooled to believe that there is a cup that can cure several stubborn diseases (AIDS, diabetes, Pressure, etc) just by drinking it. Fellow Tanzanians believing in something like that is living in the past centuries. I mean if somebody has that cure why not publish it a get a nobel prise which is accompanied by lots of cash?
Please lets try to behave like we are a part of global community that is living in the 21st century and striving to bring about development through science and technology. We are heading to be a laughing stoke if we keep it like this. We are the only country where the whole nation can be fooled like that.
This also puts into question the level of our intellect. If the people we trust to be intellectuals (government ministers and officials, professors, successful businessmen etc) are the ones leading a way in beliving such crap, then what kind of a country do we have? No wander we remain to be very poor despite all the resorces we have.

Yesu alitibu magonjwa mengi ukiwemo ukoma lakini hakuhitaji hiyo nobel prise. Kwa taarifa yako kwa MUNGU hakuna hiyo nobel prise kama unataka kuponywa nenda kama hutaki ipotezee!!! Unafikiri hiyo dawa imegunduliwa maabara na ina formular? by then you are the one to grow up others have already grown
 
Hivi kabla Wadhungu hawajaja tulikuwa tunaenda hospitali gani? Dawa zetu hazikutokana na miti??? Wadhungu walipokuja wakatwambia dawa dhetu ni ushamba na ushenzi, tukaziacha hatukurithisha tena wana wetu na wajukuu zetu. Zikabaki kwa Sangomas na Wachawi na hadi leo wanazitumia hao.....

Sasa mie mmoja wapo wa watu waliotibiwa na dawa za Kichina ktk hospitali zao na nimepona kabisaaa. Na hospitali niliyotibiwa ni ya dawa za Kichina - za mitishamba tofauti ni kwamba zimefanyiwa utafiti na zinatolewa kama dawa za Kizungu, mashine ni za kisasa na vipimo vya magonjwa vinafanyika kitaalamu ila kwenye dawa, ni za mitishamba. Sasa endeleeni kupinga dawa walizotumia babu zenu kwa kujidai ati vidonge vya mdhungu ndio bora, badala ya kufanyia utafiti urithi mlioachiwa na vizazi vyenu vya nyuma. Mimi naamini mitishamba ni dawa, acheni longolongo nyingiii, wakati kuanzia baba mwenye nyumba, mama hadi wafagizi wameshaenda. Ukiamini amini usipoamini subiri matokeo.
 
I see you are the one fooled by this 'wonder medicine', how can you disprove something without evidence, what about people who were known to be sick by other fellows and have witnessed to be cured by this medicine? Do you think they are liars? and if so, for whose benefit?
It looks strange to you that such stubborn diseases can be cured by just drinking a single cup of the medicine, i say yes it's strange but it seems you would believe if it can cure by bathing with it! or by drinking a tank full of the medicine!!
some diseases tha can be cured today were known to be stubborn time a go but nowadays can be cured by swallowing just a small pill!! and yet it's not strange to you!
When you say he should publish it so as to get Nobel Prize, what kind of publishing do you want? the issue is already in the media everywhere and thousands of people go there to get treatment, and if he deserves a Nobel Prize he will get it according to the rules and procedures and not just like that as you wish!!
You know Mzee Kipara people with such minds like yours I usually term them as 'Raped Minds' and i'm sorry for that.
The main issue which we should argue about is whether the medicine cures or not,period.
Don't judge about the way the medicine looks like, how it is administered, it's preparation and the conditions given provided that are not associated with witchcraft which i believe nobody has proved so
.

I salute you, brother!
That Babu should publish with a hope of Nobel prize?! Some crazy thinking!
Why raise these questions only to Babu?
We all know that in every other street in DSM and other major cities/towns, there is a banner of a herbalist claiming to treat all kinds of diseases. So why don't they also publish and get Nobel prizes?
 
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