Kwanini Wakristo wanadai Israel ni taifa teule?

[BALOTEL]

Mzungu alilomweza Muafrika ni kumpa dini hapa ndio uchawi wote wa kumwangamiza mwafrika ulipotokea

Sio kumpa dini tu Bali na kumbadili majina ili asiweze kuwasiliana na miungu wake.

Mfano Kama miungu yako ilikutambua kwa jina la ngengemkeni Leo unaitwa John si rahisi kukusaidia pale mnapokua kwenye maombi au tambiko.

Jina lako la asili Lina nguvu kuliko jina la ubatizo .

Nikipata wasaa nitakupeni hii elimu niliyoipata kwa babu wa babu yangu aliyekua chifu wa huko kaskazini mwa Tanzania

 

[guzman_]

Sio kumpa dini tu Bali na kumbadili majina ili asiweze kuwasiliana na miungu wake.

Mfano Kama miungu yako ilikutambua kwa jina la ngengemkeni Leo unaitwa John si rahisi kukusaidia pale mnapokua kwenye maombi au tambiko.

Jina lako la asili Lina nguvu kuliko jina la ubatizo .

Nikipata wasaa nitakupeni hii elimu niliyoipata kwa babu wa babu yangu aliyekua chifu wa huko kaskazini mwa Tanzania

Ndo hivo mkuu.. yaani walijaribu watafsiri biblia mpaka kwenye lugha za makabila na sio vitabu vya kufanya kilimo bora. Mimi ni mmoja ya watu wanaochukia dini 100%. Matatizo yetu 30% yanachangia na hizi brainwashing tumeletewa. Tumebaki kukesha makanisani wakati wenzetu wanafanya kazi usiku na mchana

 

[TheChoji]

Messiah ni "Mwokozi au Mkombozi" ambaye ndiye walimuuwa wao. Wayahudi husali kwa misingi ya yesu yoote kwa sababu Yesu alikuwa muyahudi ila kuna propaganda chafu huenezwa japo ni kweli wanasali kitofauti

Mkuu hoja zako zinaibua maswali makubwa sana. Wewe unasema kwamba Waisraeli (Wayahudi) wanamuamini Yesu na kwamba wao ndio taifa teule. Kwa maana nyingine unatuambia kwamba kama Wayahudi ni taifa teule la Mungu, basi ilibidi sisi wengine wote (Wakristu) tufuate kile wanachofanya wao kwasababu after all wao ndio waanzilishi na wao ndio wanauelewa hasa ukristo kuliko sisi watu baki! Sasa maswali yanakuja:
1. Kwanini Wakristo wengine wanasali tofauti na Wayahudi wakati Ukristo umeanzia kwao?
2. Nani yupo sahihi kati ya Wayahudi na Wakristo wengine?
3. Upi ushahidi (nje ya Biblia) unaoonyesha hawa watu ni taifa teule la Mungu?
4. Je, Waisraeli wa kweli ni wepi? Je watu wanaojiita Waisraeli leo ndio wale kizazi cha Yakobo?

 

[mwanza]

Nakubariana na hili sasa kwanini hatuungani kuabudu kama linavyoabudu taifa teule na kutumia kitabu chao?

Mzee chimbuko la ukristu ni Jesus Christ na ndio msingi wa uskristu na ndio wanafuata Imani yake licha ya kwamba na yeye ni muyahudi lakini wayahudi wenzake hawamtambui Kwa Imani Yao, hii ndio inafanya wakristu waamini katika kristu lakini sio katika Imani ya kiyahudi

 

[chabuso]

Kuna kitu kinaitwa Imani, Imani ni mambo yatarajiwayo wakristo tunaamini Biblia huwezi kuwa mkristo kama hujafanya au huamini yafuatayo👇

(1) haujabatizwa kwa maana wewe sio mkristo aliyezaliwa upya (born again Christian).
(2)Hauamini kama Yesu alikufa na akafufuka siku ya tatu na akapaa mbinguni.
(3) Hauamini utatu wa Mungu baba mwenye enzi yani Baba mwana na roho mtakatifu.
(4) Huamini kama Israel ni nchi iliyobarikiwa Biblia inaitaja sana israel na sifa zake.
N.k

Wayahudi hawafuati Torati za Mussa tafuta Biblia yao inaeleza, kinachowatofautisha wayahudi na wakristo si Mafundisho bali Itikadi wayahudi wana namna yao ya kuabudu n.k ila wanafuata mafundisho ya Yesu.

Nimebahatika kuhudhulia semina zao Dodoma walikuwa wametoka ufaransa wanasali kama walokole na imani zao haziyumbishwi na jambo la kushangaza wanasali kupitia YESU.

Mkuu uliyoandika nu uongo na upotoshaji usiokuwa na miaka..

Ukweli Wayahudi hawajamkubali hapo mwanzoni katika Maisha yake, na hawamkubali sasa katika haya maisha ya sasa..

Mayahudi wanafuata kitabu cha Taurat/Tora(sheria) kitabu cha Musa aka Moses ambacho Wakristo wanakiita Agano la Kale..

Katika Agano la kale hamjaandikwa chochote kuhusu Yesu aka Isa aka YOSHUA aka Christo..

Wakristo mnafuata Biblia,aka Agano jipya, Biblia ni neno la Kigiriki lenye maana mkusanyiko wa Vitabu...

Kwa wake wanafuata imani ya Roman Catholic biblia yao ina vitabu 77, Kwa Protestant na wengine Wanaomfata Biblia ya King James ambayo ndio maarufu Biblia yao ina vitabu 66..

Wayahudi na Wakristo ni imani mbili tafauti,unatakiwa ujue kuwa kuna Waisrael wanafuata imani ya Kikiristo, labda hao ndio uliokutana nao wewe

 

[chabuso]

Mkuu hoja zako zinaibua maswali makubwa sana. Wewe unasema kwamba Waisraeli (Wayahudi) wanamuamini Yesu na kwamba wao ndio taifa teule. Kwa maana nyingine unatuambia kwamba kama Wayahudi ni taifa teule la Mungu, basi ilibidi sisi wengine wote (Wakristu) tufuate kile wanachofanya wao kwasababu after all wao ndio waanzilishi na wao ndio wanauelewa hasa ukristo kuliko sisi watu baki! Sasa maswali yanakuja:
1. Kwanini Wakristo wengine wanasali tofauti na Wayahudi wakati Ukristo umeanzia kwao?
2. Nani yupo sahihi kati ya Wayahudi na Wakristo wengine?
3. Upi ushahidi (nje ya Biblia) unaoonyesha hawa watu ni taifa teule la Mungu?
4. Je, Waisraeli wa kweli ni wepi? Je watu wanaojiita Waisraeli leo ndio wale kizazi cha Yakobo?

Mkuu kutokana na Mafunzo ya kiislamu katika kitabu kitukufu cha Kuran, kinaeleza vile vile kuwa Wayahudi ni watu walioteuliwa na Mungu, walikuwa ni kipenzi cha Mungu..

Suala la kujiuliza Je wameteuliwa kwa lipi? na kwanini wakawa kipenzi cha Mungu?..

Jibu ni kuwa Mungu aliwateua Wayahudi kukitanga kile anachokitaka Mungu, kutangaza yale aliyoamrisha kwa Mtume yake ambao wengi walikuwa Mayahudi..

Kilichotokea ni kuwa walioteuliwa na Mungu wayatangaze yale anayotaka ndio walikuwa wa mwanzo kupinga kila Mtume wa Mungu, Wamempinga Musa, Noah (Nuhu), Isa(Yesu) na wengineo..

Kutoka na kupinga na kukufuru kwao kila cha Mungu, Mayahudi walilaaniwa na wataendelea kulaaniwa mpaka mwisho wa Dunia..

 

[Dripboy]

Mkuu hoja zako zinaibua maswali makubwa sana. Wewe unasema kwamba Waisraeli (Wayahudi) wanamuamini Yesu na kwamba wao ndio taifa teule. Kwa maana nyingine unatuambia kwamba kama Wayahudi ni taifa teule la Mungu, basi ilibidi sisi wengine wote (Wakristu) tufuate kile wanachofanya wao kwasababu after all wao ndio waanzilishi na wao ndio wanauelewa hasa ukristo kuliko sisi watu baki! Sasa maswali yanakuja:
1. Kwanini Wakristo wengine wanasali tofauti na Wayahudi wakati Ukristo umeanzia kwao?
2. Nani yupo sahihi kati ya Wayahudi na Wakristo wengine?
3. Upi ushahidi (nje ya Biblia) unaoonyesha hawa watu ni taifa teule la Mungu?
4. Je, Waisraeli wa kweli ni wepi? Je watu wanaojiita Waisraeli leo ndio wale kizazi cha Yakobo?

Maswali yako matamu sana kiongozi pili nakupongeza kwa kutokuwa na mihemko👏👏

Swali la kwanza Kwanini wakristo wanasali tofauti na wayahudi wakati ukristo umeanzia kwao?

Ukristo Kiongozi umeanzia Mjini Roma na waanzilishi wake ni kanisa katoliki.

Swali la pili Nani yupo sahihi kati ya Wayahudi na wakristo wengine?

Wayahudi wana namna yao ya kuabudu nasi wakristo tuna namna zetu za kuabudu ila tunaabudu kitu kimoja nacho ni mungu, Katika uyahudi kubatizwa ni lazima, nasi wakristo ni lazima.
Katika uyahudi wana adhana nasi wakristo tuna kengele (si madhehebu yote), Majibu ya hapa kidogo yanaweza kuwa na ukakasi ama magumu kwa kuzingatia Imani huwezi kuwa mkristo kama huamini Yesu alikufa na kufufuka na akapaa mbinguni n.k na huwezi kuwa muyahudi halisi kama unasali kwa kuacha kichwa wazi na humtumikii "Yahweh" ambaye ndio huyo waliemuuwa (YESU).

Swali la tatu upi ushahidi (nje ya Biblia) unaonyesha hawa watu ni taifa teule la Mungu?

Hapa ndipo unapokuja kupata maana ya neno Imani majibu ya hapa yanategemea imani yani mambo yasiyo bayana na yatarajiwayo.

Nakupa mfano Qur'an tunaambiwa ilishuka kutoka mbinguni je tukiomba ushahidi wa nje ya Qur'an tutaupata? Jibu ni HAPANA hivyo ni imani ya maandiko matakatifu ambayo yanatueleza sehemu nyingi sana kuwa israel na wana wake ni taifa teule na wamebarikiwa.

Swali la nne Je waisrael wakweli ni wapi? Je watu wanaojiita waisrael waleo ndio kizazi cha yakobo?

Majibu ni rahisi Waisrael wakweli ni wazawa wa ardhi iliyobarikiwa Mungu aliibariki ardhi ya israel.

Hawa wanaoijiita waisrael waleo ndio ni kizazi cha Yakobo na Hapana sio kizazi cha Yakobo kwanini naandika hivi?

Katika kizazi cha Yakobo hakuna waislamu Israel kuna waislamu hivyo hawa si kizazi chake katika taifa hilohilo kuna wagalatia ambao ndio kizazi cha yakobo (Wayahudi) kwa hiyo kiongozi majibu ya Ndio na Hapana yote ni sawa Waislamu baba yao ni Ishmael

 

[Dripboy]

Wacha uongo.
Wayahudi hawamkubali kabisa Yesu na ndiyo maana "wakamsulubu".
Usizuwe.

Bibi faiza mimi ni chotara wa Kilutheri na Kianglikana misingi ya haya madhehebu si ubaguzi yanaruhusu mtu kujifunza kwa namna awezayo usiwe mpumbavu kama Biblia inenavyo ni Kheri kuwa Mjinga kuliko kuwa Mpumbavu.

Tafdhali sana kama utakuwa tayari bila kujali uajuza wako niruhusu tuje pamoja na wayahudi waliobakia hapa nchini ambao kiutaifa ni wafaransa waje wakutendee miujiza katika jina kuu la YAHWEH jina lipitalo majina yote likitajwa magonjwa hukimbia likitajwa pasipo na amani amani inatawala ayayayayaaa Wayahudi ni sawa na walokole WEWE BIBI Yahweh ni Yesu wameenda mbali zaidi wanamuita Mungu

 

[Dripboy]

[emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38] we jamaa mbona hautulii na point moja mkuu? Hebu naomba ubaki na point moja mara wanasali kama walokole mara wanasali kwa misingi ya yesu ila kiutofauti sasa tukuelewe vipi?

Tatizo lako ni dogo tu hautafakari mambo.

Yesu alikuwa mwalimu, mwanafunzi na mchungaji hakuwahi kujikweza.

Walokole wanasali kwa kupiga kelele na kila wakati yani mlokole ni sala 24 HRS.
Misingi ya Yesu ilikuwa ni hiyo kusali kusali kusali ndio maana nikasema wanafuata misingi ya Yesu yoote

 

[Dripboy]

Hiyo takwimu yako umeichukulia wapi? [emoji38][emoji38] au una guess?

Kwa kubahatika kufanya kazi na wayahudi

 

[Dripboy]

Ninetumia hii line kuku creticize!!
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"Nimebahatika kuhudhulia semina zao Dodoma walikuwa wametoka ufaransa wanasali kama walokole ".
Labda turudi kwenye maana ya walokole .
Walokoke au pentecoste ni akina nani?
Arccoding to Oxyford dictionary.
PENTECOSTAL .
"Relating to or denoting any of a number of Christian movements emphasizing baptism in the Holy Spirit, evidenced by ‘speaking in tongues’, prophecy, healing, and exorcism".
Kama ulivyoona pentecostal(ulokole ni ukristo) .
So sijakurupuka nime note ulichoandika.

Wow! " Wanasali kama walokole" Unajua namna za kusali za Walokole halisi?

Wayahudi wanasali kama walokole ndio muda mwingi wao ni prayers prayers prayers. Au ulitaka niseme wanasali kama waislami uridhike?

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Bibi faiza mimi ni chotara wa Kilutheri na Kianglikana misingi ya haya madhehebu si ubaguzi yanaruhusu mtu kujifunza kwa namna awezayo usiwe mpumbavu kama Biblia inenavyo ni Kheri kuwa Mjinga kuliko kuwa Mpumbavu.

Tafdhali sana kama utakuwa tayari bila kujali uajuza wako niruhusu tuje pamoja na wayahudi waliobakia hapa nchini ambao kiutaifa ni wafaransa waje wakutendee miujiza katika jina kuu la YAHWEH jina lipitalo majina yote likitajwa magonjwa hukimbia likitajwa pasipo na amani amani inatawala ayayayayaaa Wayahudi ni sawa na walokole WEWE BIBI Yahweh ni Yesu wameenda mbali zaidi wanamuita Mungu

Hata maana ya chotara huielewi.

Mungu anaetundikwa wanapotundikwa wenye laana nae ni Mungu huyo au kituko tu.

Wewe kasali na Tito ndiyo maongezi yenu yanafanana.

 

[smigo4u]

Wow! " Wanasali kama walokole" Unajua namna za kusali za Walokole halisi?

Wayahudi wanasali kama walokole ndio muda mwingi wao ni prayers prayers prayers. Au ulitaka niseme wanasali kama waislami uridhike?

Cool down ndugu !!!!

 

[Dripboy]

Hata maana ya chotara huielewi.
Mungu anaetundikwa wanapotundikwa wenye laana nae ni Mungu huyo au kituko tu.
Wewe kasali na Tito ndiyo maongezi yenu yanafanana.

Ni kaisali sio kasali.

Alafu Bibi nini maana ya chotara?
Kwa hiyo unataka kumfananisha Yesu na Muhammad ambaye alikuwa hajui kusoma wala kuandika? Na hamjawahi kujiuliza kama mlipigwa changa la macho na aliyeiandika?

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Ni kaisali sio kasali.

Alafu Bibi nini maana ya chotara?
Kwa hiyo unataka kumfananisha Yesu na Muhammad ambaye alikuwa hajui kusoma wala kuandika? Na hamjawahi kujiuliza kama mlipigwa changa la macho na aliyeiandika?

Kaisali hata usiisali inahusu nini na wewe unasali na Tito.

Wewe Yesu alayhi salaam anakuhusu nini mjaa lana wewe unaemshutumu mtume wa Mungu kuwa kalaaniwa?

Usijipendekeze. Yesu hakuja kwa ajili yako. Wewe kondoo aliyepotea wa nyumba ya Israel? Kwenye biblia nyie ndiye mlieitwa mbwa.

Soma hiyooo...

Mathayo 15:
24 Akajibu, akasema, Sikutumwa ila kwa kondoo waliopotea wa nyumba ya Israeli.
25 Naye akaja akamsujudia, akisema Bwana, unisaidie.
26 Akajibu, akasema, Si vema kukitwaa chakula cha watoto na kuwatupia mbwa.

 

[Uchira 1]

Hiyo ni dhahiri kabisa kuwa huna jibu.

Tatizo ni kuwa sijatoa jibu ulilotarajia

 

[mkada]

Tofauttisha TAIFA na SERIKALI....israel ndo taifa teule kwa mujibu wa imani ya kikiristo..serikali yake ni ya kidhalimu tu..ndo maana inabadilishwa, kuna uchaguzi na dini yake sio ukiristo.

 

[Elungata]

sio wakristo wote,mfano RC hawako brainwashed to tthat extent,ndo maana pope huwa anawapa ukweli israel bila kupepesa,makanisa ya born again hiyo ndo iman yao kuu,wanaamini ili yesu arudi sharti unabii utimie,na ili utimie sharti lijengwe sinagogi ya solomon pale jerusalem ili yesu aje kuhudumu pale,ili hayo yatokee,sharti itokee vita kuu,harmegedon,google Evangelical will bring third world war

 

[Elungata]

Some evangelical Christians believe that
recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel
will bring on the end of the world.
On Wednesday President Donald Trump
announced that the US will recognise
Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and the US
embassy - which is currently based in Tel
Aviv - will move there.
When the UN partitioned Palestine in
1947 the city of Jerusalem was given a
special status, distinct from either a state of
Palestine or a state of Israel, to be
administered by an international council of
the UN.
The US and many other nations currently
have their embassies in the Israeli city of Tel
Aviv.
Jerusalem came under the control of Israel
in 1967, yet Israeli sovereignty has never
been truly recognised internationally.
In April 2017 Russia's Foreign Ministry
released a statement saying it
considered western Jerusalem to be the
capital of Israel - and eastern Jerusalem the
capital of a ('future') Palestine, yet Russia's
embassy to Israel is also located in Tel Aviv.
Donald Trump and
evangelical Christians
In 2016, during the race for the Republican
nomination, it was thought Donald Trump
could not win over the religious right, who
seemed to have been locked up by his rival
Senator Ted Cruz .
His eventual win of that group, and later the
country, was in part made possible due to
Trump's pledge to move the US embassy to
Jerusalem.
According to the Pew Research Centre;
during the general election 80 per cent of
self-identified white, born-again and
evangelical Christians claimed they had
voted for Trump, while just 16 per cent
voted for Hillary Clinton.
Evangelicals and Jerusalem
In response to President Trump's
announcement theological scholar Dr Diana
Butler Bass tweeted her explanation of the
link between the recognition of Jerusalem,
evangelical Christians, and the apocalypse.
For anyone sceptical that evangelicals would
really believe this, or welcome the
apocalypse, Bass added:
Bass was joined in her analysis by Professor
Matthew Gabriele, an expert in religious
violence at Virginia Tech, who tweeted in
support of a comment made by Anna
Merlan, a reporter with Gizmodo.
The significance of Jerusalem and Israel to
evangelicals concerns the 'Third Temple'
prophecy.
Since 70 AD when the Romans tore down
the 'Second Temple', there has been no
Jewish Temple on the site of the Temple
Mount.
Prophecies of a Third Temple are made in
the books of Daniel, Matthew,
and Revelation, and in the Second epistle to
the Thessalonians.
These have been interpreted by some to
suggest that the building of a Third Temple,
known as the 'Tribulation Temple', will occur
during the period of the Antichrist and
bring on the apocalypse.
This is said to be followed by 1000 years of
rule on earth by Christ himself, which some
evangelical Christians are in favour of seeing
happen.
Of course, not all evangelicals welcomed Mr
Trump's decision, including New Testament
scholar Gary M. Burge who wrote in The
Atlantic:
Moreover, an open letter, signed by 13
patriarchs from the Christian community in
Jerusalem, and sent to the President on
Wednesday, argued;
More: Which countries recognise Palestine?
Thursday 7 December 2017 12:45
Numerous evangelicals like me
are less enamoured of the recent
romance between the church
and Republican politics, and
worry about moving the U.S.
embassy. For us, peacemaking
and the pursuit of justice are very
high virtues.
“
„
We are certain that such steps
will yield increased hatred,
conflict, violence and suffering in
Jerusalem and the Holy Land,
moving us farther from the goal
of unity and deeper toward
destructive division.

 

[Elungata]

so there you have it,suala la israel na walokole ni sawa na suala la wahabia na story za Dajjall,kiufupi ni extremism,vilevile sio habari nzuri maana mwishowe inapelekea vita vya maangamizi katika kutimiza unabii wa kuwa yesu atarudi na kuhudumu pale jerusalem kwa miaka elfu moja,ili hili litokee lazima vita kuu itapiganwa,taifa la israel litashambuliwa vikali kabla yesu hajashuka akiwa juu ya farasi na upanga kuja kupelekea ushindi wa taifa teule na mji mtakatifu wa jerusalem kusimama,A LOT OF NOSENSE OFCOURSE