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[JokaKuu]

Rwanda: The Hard Truths We Must Swallow - Rwanda Is Wreaking Havoc in Congo


BY ALICE GATEBUKE


OPINION

The government of Paul Kagame continues to relentlessly support, arm and command rebel groups such as the M23, which commit war crimes and human rights violations in Congo
The Rwandan Genocide was 19 years ago. Though the genocide ended in 1994, its consequences are still deeply felt today. For myself and other survivors, those memories are ever present.

We have never forgotten the horrors we lived through as unimaginable violence overtook our country. We grapple with mixed emotions, trying to process and come to terms with today's reality. Our struggle has evolved from physical survival to that of the emotional turmoil caused by our trauma.

Some days, we are grateful to be alive, to breathe, and to feel. Other days are fraught with anger, guilt, and sadness. We wrestle with endless, unanswerable questions. Many days we feel unworthy to be alive. We cannot comprehend why we are still alive and why many others perished. Why me, we wonder? Why not my family or friends?

We wonder why we had to witness their demise and are angry because we felt so helpless. Try as we might, we can never reverse the darkest moments of our lives. We cannot undo the damage, no matter how hard we wish we could. The genocide was real, it happened, and we live with its consequences to this very day. I was a powerless child, but still, what if there was something I could have done? And what if it happened again?

It is precisely this fear of another genocide carried out by the perpetrators of the genocide of 1994 that motivated the current Rwandan government's first invasion of Congo in 1996. It is this fear that has sustained the Rwandan government's justification for repeated intervention in the Congo over the last 16 years. And it is precisely why the world continues to live with the consequences of the Rwandan Genocide.

Even though as survivors of the Rwandan Genocide we understood the security the Rwandan government sought when they first invaded Congo, we did not sanction the human catastrophe they triggered. We did not sanction the torture, rape, and possible genocide of women, children, and the elderly that were targeted in Congo when the Rwandan Government sent troops inside of Congo for 'our protection'.

And we certainly did not sanction the government of Rwanda's 'Six-Day War' against Uganda over a diamond mine inside Congo, leaving significant numbers of Congolese people dead, injured, and displaced.

And even now, we do not sanction the violation of the United Nations arms embargo, undermining of peace deals and processes, and commanding proxy rebel groups who kill, torture, rape, and displace people, while illegally capturing cities in Congo. And most of all, we do not sanction any attempt to annex any part of Congo in our name.

Since the first invasion, more than five million people have died in Congo, making it the deadliest conflict since the Second World War. And many of those deaths lie at the hands of the Rwandan government. These are hard truths we must swallow. Not only must we come to terms with crimes that were committed against us, we must now deal with crimes committed in our names.

These crimes are not simply committed in our names, the survivors of the Rwandan Genocide, but in the name of the entire global community that stands still, providing tacit approval.

They are also committed for the same international community that justifies, excuses, and protects the Rwandan government, as it continues to wreak havoc in the Congo. Though we could not stop or stand up against the violent acts that were committed against us during the Rwandan genocide, we can and we must stop and stand up against crimes committed against others, crimes committed in our name in Congo.

After sixteen years of invasion and intervention through proxy groups, it is still difficult for people in the international community to accept that the Rwandan government is guilty of anything but justified intervention in Congo.But members of the international community must look past the glowing economic reviews, look past the constant denials and well-oiled public relations machine, and deal with the hard truths.

The Rwandan government is committing unspeakable crimes against humanity in the Congo under false pretenses, and we must stop it. U.S. President Barack Obama understood this when as senator, he authored and passed into law the Democratic Republic of Congo Relief, Security and Democracy Promotion Act, PL 109-456 in 2006 that called for accountability for those of Congo's neighbors that destabilize the country. And he understood it last summer when he cut $200,000 in military aid to Rwanda. And he understood it last December when he personally made a call to Rwandan President Paul Kagame and asked him to cease support of the M23 rebel group, currently wreaking havoc in Congo.

Despite all these steps from the Obama administration to address the conflict, the Rwandan government continues to relentlessly support, arm, and command rebel groups such as the M23, while these groups continue to commit war crimes and human rights violations in Congo.

It is precisely because we refuse to swallow these hard truths that the Rwandan government continues to commit such atrocities unchallenged and with impunity. If we can muster the courage to face these truths, we can impose accountability measures consistent with the degree of suffering and instability wrought by the Rwandan government against the Congolese people.

We can and we should sanction and impose travel bans on and freeze the assets of identified Rwandan military personnel responsible for committing atrocities in Congo. And we should cut or withhold military aid to a dangerous regime that wages and sponsors war and conflict in the territory of another nation.

Survivors of the Rwandan Genocide mourned and commemorate the 19th anniversary of the genocide this past spring. As we commemorate our loved .ones, we continue to grapple with traumas of our past, and issues of our present. Our responsibility lies in what we do with our future, and how we stand up to evil perpetrated against our neighbors. We, along with the rest of the world, must no longer refuse to swallow difficult and painful truths, and dedicate consistent focus and action towards resolving the deadliest conflict since the Second World War in Congo.

- Alice Gatebuke is a Rwandan genocide and war survivor, Cornell University graduate, and a human rights activist. She is a co-founder of African Great Lakes Action Network (AGLAN)

source: allAfrica.com: Rwanda: The Hard Truths We Must Swallow - Rwanda Is Wreaking Havoc in Congo

cc Jasusi, boss, EMT, Bukyanagandi, Koborer, Ruzibiza, Ab-Titchaz,

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Rwanda: The Hard Truths We Must Swallow - Rwanda Is Wreaking Havoc in CongoBY ALICE GATEBUKEOPINIONThe government of Paul Kagame continues to relentlessly support, arm and command rebel groups such as the M23, which commit war crimes and human rights violations in CongoThe Rwandan Genocide was 19 years ago. Though the genocide ended in 1994, its consequences are still deeply felt today. For myself and other survivors, those memories are ever present.We have never forgotten the horrors we lived through as unimaginable violence overtook our country. We grapple with mixed emotions, trying to process and come to terms with today's reality. Our struggle has evolved from physical survival to that of the emotional turmoil caused by our trauma.We cannot comprehend why we are still alive and why many others perished. Why me, we wonder? Why not my family or friends? Try as we might, we can never reverse the darkest moments of our lives. We cannot undo the damage, no matter how hard we wish we could. The genocide was real, it happened, and we live with its consequences to this very day. I was a powerless child, but still, what if there was something I could have done? And what if it happened again?It is this fear that has sustained the Rwandan government's justification for repeate intervention in the Congo over the last 16 years. And it is precisely why the world continues to live with the consequences of the Rwandan Genocide.We did not sanction the torture, rape, and possible genocide of women, children, and the elderly that were targeted in Congo when the Rwandan Government sent troops inside of Congo for 'our protection'. And we certainly did not sanction the government of Rwanda's 'Six-Day War' against Uganda over a diamond mine inside Congo, leaving significant numbers of Congolese people dead, injured, and displaced.And even now, we do not sanction the violation of the United Nations arms embargo, undermining of peace deals and processes, and commanding proxy rebel groups who kill, torture, rape, and displace people, while illegally capturing cities in Congo. And most of all, we do not sanction any attempt to annex any part of Congo in our name.Since the first invasion, more than five million people have died in Congo, making it the deadliest conflict since the Second World War. And many of those deaths lie at the hands of the Rwandan government. These are hard truths we must swallow. Not only must we come to terms with crimes that were committed against us, we must now deal with crimes committed in our names.These crimes are not simply committed in our names, the survivors of the Rwandan Genocide, but in the name of the entire global community that stands still, providing tacit approval.They are also committed for the same international community that justifies, excuses, and protects the Rwandan government, as it continues to wreak havoc in the Congo. Though we could not stop or stand up against the violent acts that were committed against us during the Rwandan genocide, we can and we must stop and stand up against crimes committed against others, crimes committed in our name in Congo.After sixteen years of invasion and intervention through proxy groups, it is still difficult for people in the international community to accept that the Rwandan government is guilty of anything but justified intervention in Congo.But members of the international community must look past the glowing economic reviews, look past the constant denials and well-oiled public relations machine, and deal with the hard truths.The Rwandan government is committing unspeakable crimes against humanity in the Congo under false pretenses, and we must stop it. U.S. President Barack Obama understood this when as senator, he authored and passed into law the Democratic Republic of Congo Relief, Security and Democracy Promotion Act, PL 109-456 in 2006 that called for accountability for those of Congo's neighbors that destabilize the country. And he understood it last summer when he cut $200,000 in military aid to Rwanda. And he understood it last December when he personally made a call to Rwandan President Paul Kagame and asked him to cease support of the M23 rebel group, currently wreaking havoc in Congo.Despite all these steps from the Obama administration to address the conflict, the Rwandan government continues to relentlessly support, arm, and command rebel groups such as the M23, while these groups continue to commit war crimes and human rights violations in Congo.It is precisely because we refuse to swallow these hard truths that the Rwandan government continues to commit such atrocities unchallenged and with impunity. If we can muster the courage to face these truths, we can impose accountability measures consistent with the degree of suffering and instability wrought by the Rwandan government against the Congolese people.We can and we should sanction and impose travel bans on and freeze the assets of identified Rwandan military personnel responsible for committing atrocities in Congo. And we should cut or withhold military aid to a dangerous regime that wages and sponsors war and conflict in the territory of another nation.Survivors of the Rwandan Genocide mourned and commemorate the 19th anniversary of the genocide this past spring. As we commemorate our loved .ones, we continue to grapple with traumas of our past, and issues of our present. Our responsibility lies in what we do with our future, and how we stand up to evil perpetrated against our neighbors. We, along with the rest of the world, must no longer refuse to swallow difficult and painful truths, and dedicate consistent focus and action towards resolving the deadliest conflict since the Second World War in Congo. - Alice Gatebuke is a Rwandan genocide and war survivor, Cornell University graduate, and a human rights activist. She is a co-founder of African Great Lakes Action Network (AGLAN)source: allAfrica.com: Rwanda: The Hard Truths We Must Swallow - Rwanda Is Wreaking Havoc in Congocc Jasusi, boss, EMT, Bukyanagandi, Koborer, Ruzibiza, Ab-Titchaz,

Tell U what Mkuu JokaKuu, that's what I call a true daughter of Rwandan Soil one ALICE GATEBUKE - I salute her from bottom of my heart, being brave enough to speak her mind is no simple feat - see, she didn't give a hoot of her ethenic background; once again Bravo Alice Gatebuke: THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD no matter WHAT.

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

Koba,

I seek thy guidance on this one my brother.

Respectfully,

Ab-Titchaz.

 

[JokaKuu]

Ab-Titchaz, Bukyanagandi, Kabaridi, Nairoberry, Koborer, Jasusi, Nguruvi3, EMT,

..Kagame and his proxies wanahusika na vurugu za DRC ambazo zimesababisha wananchi milioni 3 kupoteza maisha.

..Nimesoma kwamba Wakenya 1500 walipoteza maisha kutokana na vurugu za uchaguzi wa 2008.

..Kama Uhuru na Ruto wamefikishwa mahakamani, kwanini Kagame, Kabarebe, Nyamwasa, Nkunda wanaachiwa wauwe zaidi??

..Je, ni kwamba hawa wanaogopwa, au watu hawajali kuhusu maisha na usalama wa wananchi wa DRC??

cc Kichuguu, Geza Ulole

 

[Nguruvi3]

Ab-Titchaz, Bukyanagandi, Kabaridi, Nairoberry, Koborer, Jasusi, Nguruvi3, EMT,

..Kagame and his proxies wanahusika na vurugu za DRC ambazo zimesababisha wananchi milioni 3 kupoteza maisha.

..Nimesoma kwamba Wakenya 1500 walipoteza maisha kutokana na vurugu za uchaguzi wa 2008.

..Kama Uhuru na Ruto wamefikishwa mahakamani, kwanini Kagame, Kabarebe, Nyamwasa, Nkunda wanaachiwa wauwe zaidi??

..Je, ni kwamba hawa wanaogopwa, au watu hawajali kuhusu maisha na usalama wa wananchi wa DRC??

cc Kichuguu, Geza Ulole

Mkuu mambo mengi yalikuwa ''under the carpet'' Kwa bahati mbaya yanaanza kuwa wazi sasa hivi. Kwa mfano, Kagame waliposhawishi Kivu iwe nchi ndipo mataifa mengi yakajua kuna something. Hapo awali walijua ni wakongo wanavita tu lakini sasa wanajua nani yupo behind.

Kesi kama za kina Bosco zitaibua mambo zaidi. Ndiyo maana Kagame anataka mkataba wa Kampala ambao basically M7 atafukia fukia mambo. Kagame hataki majadiliano mengine kupitia taasisi au block kama SADC kwasababu anataka habari ziwe 'contained''

Hii diplomatic row na Tanzania ndio inazidi kufungua macho kabisa. Mtu anajiuliza nini hasa chanzo ndipo hadithi za M23 na ushiriki wa RPF na jeshi lake katika mauaji ya watu milioni 3 yanapojulikana.

Kagame anatumia genocide kutafuta sympathy, wakati huo huo ameshiriki kuua watu milioni 3.
Ipo siku ataelekea the Hague, matter of time. Ngoja kesi zianze utasikia ushahidi na mashihidi

 

[Kipokola]

Mkuu, hii serikali ya Congo yenyewe iko wapi??

sababu ipi inayofanya Congo ishindwe kujitawala mpaka kuvamiwa na nchi jirani?

Ninavyojua me Rwanda have justification for there present in Congo considering it has been used by FDLR and other armed group as hideout and recently UN reveal the report allegedly DRC of harboring FDLR.. So i dont see any reason to blame Rwanda.
DRC have to extend it authority over eastern side of it territory and she cant do that without negotiating with Rwanda and Uganda otherwise Congo will remain a bloodshed ground.

 

[JokaKuu]

Kipokola,

..mauaji ya wananchi milioni 3 wa Congo yaliyosababishwa na majeshi ya Rwanda na makundi ya waasi wanaofadhiliwa na Rwanda can not be justified.

 

[Kipokola]

Kipokola,

..mauaji ya wananchi milioni 3 wa Congo yaliyosababishwa na majeshi ya Rwanda na makundi ya waasi wanaofadhiliwa na Rwanda can not be justified.

Jokakuu, Congo imekuwa ikipewa msaada wa kijeshi toka Zimbabwe na Angola na ilikuwa ina matatizo siyo tu na Rwanda na Uganda ila ukumbuke na interahamwye kama sijakosea spelling ambao hawa ni wa Congo hasa.

Suala la Rwanda kuwepo Congo ni DRC yenyewe kutokuwa na uwezo wa kujitawala na wala haijaanza leo hii, kule Congo wanufaikaji ni wengi iliwemo mataifa makubwa kama Belgium, USA na mengine kutokana na yale madini..

Me naona tuendelee angalia hii sinema tuone mwisho wake, vita havitaisha kama Rwanda, Congo na DRC hazitakubaliana bado tu Congo na matatizo.

 

[Koborer]

Ab-Titchaz, Bukyanagandi, Kabaridi, Nairoberry, Koborer, Jasusi, Nguruvi3, EMT,

..Kagame and his proxies wanahusika na vurugu za DRC ambazo zimesababisha wananchi milioni 3 kupoteza maisha.

..Nimesoma kwamba Wakenya 1500 walipoteza maisha kutokana na vurugu za uchaguzi wa 2008.

..Kama Uhuru na Ruto wamefikishwa mahakamani, kwanini Kagame, Kabarebe, Nyamwasa, Nkunda wanaachiwa wauwe zaidi??

..Je, ni kwamba hawa wanaogopwa, au watu hawajali kuhusu maisha na usalama wa wananchi wa DRC??

cc Kichuguu, Geza Ulole

I believe there is much more than meets the eye in this DRC manenos. We haven't seen anything yet and so i urge that we sit back and watch the unfolding scenario before drawing all these conclusions. There is danger that the whole of East and Central Africa might be sucked in to this brawl.

 

[Jasusi]

Mkuu, hii serikali ya Congo yenyewe iko wapi??

sababu ipi inayofanya Congo ishindwe kujitawala mpaka kuvamiwa na nchi jirani?

Ninavyojua me Rwanda have justification for there present in Congo considering it has been used by FDLR and other armed group as hideout and recently UN reveal the report allegedly DRC of harboring FDLR.. So i dont see any reason to blame Rwanda.
DRC have to extend it authority over eastern side of it territory and she cant do that without negotiating with Rwanda and Uganda otherwise Congo will remain a bloodshed ground.

Hapo sasa. Nasikia Kabila analipwa mshahara wa dola milioni 75 kwa mwaka. Ameshindwa kuimarisha jeshi lake miaka yote hii. Ameshindwa ku extend mamlaka ya Kinshasa nchi nzima. Congo inahitaji mwanamapinduzi mithili ya Fidel Castro. Siyo huyu jamaa kazi yake kuvaa suti tu na kunywa champagne wakati nchi inakwenda to the dogs. Naona hata Waangola wamechoka kumsaidia. Ni rahisi kumlaumu Kagame lakini lawama kubwa zaidi zielekezwe kwa Kabila.

 

[kmbwembwe]

Rwanda: The Hard Truths We Must Swallow - Rwanda Is Wreaking Havoc in Congo


BY ALICE GATEBUKE


OPINION

The government of Paul Kagame continues to relentlessly support, arm and command rebel groups such as the M23, which commit war crimes and human rights violations in Congo
The Rwandan Genocide was 19 years ago. Though the genocide ended in 1994, its consequences are still deeply felt today. For myself and other survivors, those memories are ever present.

We have never forgotten the horrors we lived through as unimaginable violence overtook our country. We grapple with mixed emotions, trying to process and come to terms with today's reality. Our struggle has evolved from physical survival to that of the emotional turmoil caused by our trauma.

Some days, we are grateful to be alive, to breathe, and to feel. Other days are fraught with anger, guilt, and sadness. We wrestle with endless, unanswerable questions. Many days we feel unworthy to be alive. We cannot comprehend why we are still alive and why many others perished. Why me, we wonder? Why not my family or friends?

We wonder why we had to witness their demise and are angry because we felt so helpless. Try as we might, we can never reverse the darkest moments of our lives. We cannot undo the damage, no matter how hard we wish we could. The genocide was real, it happened, and we live with its consequences to this very day. I was a powerless child, but still, what if there was something I could have done? And what if it happened again?

It is precisely this fear of another genocide carried out by the perpetrators of the genocide of 1994 that motivated the current Rwandan government's first invasion of Congo in 1996. It is this fear that has sustained the Rwandan government's justification for repeated intervention in the Congo over the last 16 years. And it is precisely why the world continues to live with the consequences of the Rwandan Genocide.

Even though as survivors of the Rwandan Genocide we understood the security the Rwandan government sought when they first invaded Congo, we did not sanction the human catastrophe they triggered. We did not sanction the torture, rape, and possible genocide of women, children, and the elderly that were targeted in Congo when the Rwandan Government sent troops inside of Congo for 'our protection'.

And we certainly did not sanction the government of Rwanda's 'Six-Day War' against Uganda over a diamond mine inside Congo, leaving significant numbers of Congolese people dead, injured, and displaced.

And even now, we do not sanction the violation of the United Nations arms embargo, undermining of peace deals and processes, and commanding proxy rebel groups who kill, torture, rape, and displace people, while illegally capturing cities in Congo. And most of all, we do not sanction any attempt to annex any part of Congo in our name.

Since the first invasion, more than five million people have died in Congo, making it the deadliest conflict since the Second World War. And many of those deaths lie at the hands of the Rwandan government. These are hard truths we must swallow. Not only must we come to terms with crimes that were committed against us, we must now deal with crimes committed in our names.

These crimes are not simply committed in our names, the survivors of the Rwandan Genocide, but in the name of the entire global community that stands still, providing tacit approval.

They are also committed for the same international community that justifies, excuses, and protects the Rwandan government, as it continues to wreak havoc in the Congo. Though we could not stop or stand up against the violent acts that were committed against us during the Rwandan genocide, we can and we must stop and stand up against crimes committed against others, crimes committed in our name in Congo.

After sixteen years of invasion and intervention through proxy groups, it is still difficult for people in the international community to accept that the Rwandan government is guilty of anything but justified intervention in Congo.But members of the international community must look past the glowing economic reviews, look past the constant denials and well-oiled public relations machine, and deal with the hard truths.

The Rwandan government is committing unspeakable crimes against humanity in the Congo under false pretenses, and we must stop it. U.S. President Barack Obama understood this when as senator, he authored and passed into law the Democratic Republic of Congo Relief, Security and Democracy Promotion Act, PL 109-456 in 2006 that called for accountability for those of Congo's neighbors that destabilize the country. And he understood it last summer when he cut $200,000 in military aid to Rwanda. And he understood it last December when he personally made a call to Rwandan President Paul Kagame and asked him to cease support of the M23 rebel group, currently wreaking havoc in Congo.

Despite all these steps from the Obama administration to address the conflict, the Rwandan government continues to relentlessly support, arm, and command rebel groups such as the M23, while these groups continue to commit war crimes and human rights violations in Congo.

It is precisely because we refuse to swallow these hard truths that the Rwandan government continues to commit such atrocities unchallenged and with impunity. If we can muster the courage to face these truths, we can impose accountability measures consistent with the degree of suffering and instability wrought by the Rwandan government against the Congolese people.

We can and we should sanction and impose travel bans on and freeze the assets of identified Rwandan military personnel responsible for committing atrocities in Congo. And we should cut or withhold military aid to a dangerous regime that wages and sponsors war and conflict in the territory of another nation.

Survivors of the Rwandan Genocide mourned and commemorate the 19th anniversary of the genocide this past spring. As we commemorate our loved .ones, we continue to grapple with traumas of our past, and issues of our present. Our responsibility lies in what we do with our future, and how we stand up to evil perpetrated against our neighbors. We, along with the rest of the world, must no longer refuse to swallow difficult and painful truths, and dedicate consistent focus and action towards resolving the deadliest conflict since the Second World War in Congo.

- Alice Gatebuke is a Rwandan genocide and war survivor, Cornell University graduate, and a human rights activist. She is a co-founder of African Great Lakes Action Network (AGLAN)

source: allAfrica.com: Rwanda: The Hard Truths We Must Swallow - Rwanda Is Wreaking Havoc in Congo

cc Jasusi, boss, EMT, Bukyanagandi, Koborer, Ruzibiza, Ab-Titchaz,

Bravo Alice Butebuke kisses to you for calling a spade a spade. We must together confront kagame and his henchmen to stop his madness. Two wrongs do not make right but just increase animocity. Ethnic tension which never existed before between tutsis and bantu people is arising all over east africa because of atrocity which is being commited to congolese people who are of bantu origin by a proxy rwandan army coprising of tutsis.

 

[JokaKuu]

Jokakuu, Congo imekuwa ikipewa msaada wa kijeshi toka Zimbabwe na Angola na ilikuwa ina matatizo siyo tu na Rwanda na Uganda ila ukumbuke na interahamwye kama sijakosea spelling ambao hawa ni wa Congo hasa.

Suala la Rwanda kuwepo Congo ni DRC yenyewe kutokuwa na uwezo wa kujitawala na wala haijaanza leo hii, kule Congo wanufaikaji ni wengi iliwemo mataifa makubwa kama Belgium, USA na mengine kutokana na yale madini..

Me naona tuendelee angalia hii sinema tuone mwisho wake, vita havitaisha kama Rwanda, Congo na DRC hazitakubaliana bado tu Congo na matatizo.

..Congo walipewa msaada na Zimbabwe,Angola,na Namibia, baada ya kuvamiwa na Rwanda.

..Rwanda waliingia Congo kwa mara ya kwanza wakiwa na kundi la Laurent Kabila.

..wakati huo waliwashughulikia Interahamwe waliokimbilia Congo/Zaire wakati wa utawala wa Mobutu.

..baada ya kumsimika madarakani Laurent Kabila, majeshi ya Rwanda yaliendelea kuwepo ndani ya Congo. Kwa maana nyingine Congo walikuwa hawana jeshi, bali walikuwa wanaitegemea Rwanda kwa masuala ya ulinzi.

..Mkuu wa vikosi vya Rwanda vilivyokuwa Congo wakati wa utawala wa Laurent Kabila alikuwa ni James Kabarebe, ambaye baadaye alikuja kuwa mkuu wa majeshi ya Rwanda na sasa hivi ni waziri wa ulinzi ktk serikali ya Kagame.

..sasa ilifika wakati uwepo wa wanajeshi wa Rwanda nchini Congo ukawa kero kwa wananchi. kwanza, wanajeshi wa Rwanda walikuwa wanatuhumiwa kuwanyanyasa wananchi wa Congo. Pili, Raisi Kabila alianza ku-loose support na heshima miongoni mwa wananchi kwa kuonekana kama ni kibaraka wa Rwanda.

..Kutokana na hali hiyo Lauerent Kabila akaamua kwamba wanajeshi wa Rwanda waliokuwa Congo warudi nyumbani kwao. Kitendo hicho kiliwakasirisha watawala wa Rwanda ambao waliamua kumvamia kumpindua Laurent Kabila.

..Rwanda walirusha askari kwa ndenge na kutua kwenye air base ipo Kitona close to Kinshasa. Baada ya hapo wakaanza Kinshasa huko wakizima umeme kwa wakazi wa mji huo, na kikosi kingine kiliekekea kuteka bandari[siikumbuki jina] inayo-supply Kinshasa.

..Madai ya Rwanda yalikuwa ni kwamba Laurent Kabila ameshindwa kuwadhibiti Interahamwe waliokuwa Congo. Swali hilo lilipingwa na watu wengi kwasababu majeshi ya Rwanda chini ya James Kabarebe ndiyo yaliyokuwa yakihusika na ulinzi wa Congo.

..Hoja nyingine ilikuwa ni kwamba, Interahamwe walikuwa wako mpakani eastern Congo, sasa kwanini Rwanda iliamua kuacha kushughulika nao huko mpakani, na badala yake wakarusha madege na askari hadi Kitona na Kinshasa[angalia ramani]kwenda kumpindua Laurent Kabila??

..Zimbabwe, Angola, na Namibia, ndiyo waliokwenda kumuokoa Laurent Kabila. Majeshi hayo yalitoa kipigo kwa majeshi ya Rwanda ambayo yalilazimika kurudi nyuma na kukimbia kuelekea Eastern Congo.

..Kutokana na kipigo walichopata, Rwanda wakaamua kuanzisha kundi la waasi dhidi ya serikali ya Laurent Kabila. Kundi hilo la waasi ndiyo ancestor wa hili kundi la M23. Uganda nao walichangamka na kuanzisha kundi lingine la waasi dhidi ya Kabila. Kundi hilo liliongozwa na Pro.Wamba Dia Wamba aliyekuwa mhadhiri mwandamizi hapa UDSM.


NB:

..Zimbabwe, Angola, na Namibia, walikwenda kumsaidia Laurent Kabila kwa kuzingatia makubaliano ya ulinzi ya nchi wanachama wa SADC. Mkataba wa amani wa uliosainiwa baina ya Wacongo wenyewe ulielekeza kwamba majeshi yote ya kigeni yataondoka ktk ardhi ya Congo.

..majeshi ya Rwanda na Uganda yaliwahi kupigana vita ndani ya Congo. Sasa hilo nalo ni uthibitisho kwamba hawakuwa huko kufuatilia makundi ya waasi kama Interahamwe au LRA.

cc Koborer, Jasusi, Bukyanagandi, Nguruvi3

 

[JokaKuu]

I believe there is much more than meets the eye in this DRC manenos. We haven't seen anything yet and so i urge that we sit back and watch the unfolding scenario before drawing all these conclusions. There is danger that the whole of East and Central Africa might be sucked in to this brawl.

Koborer, Jasusi,

..naona kama Tanzania, South Africa, na SADC ,sasa tunakula matapishi yetu.

..Tanzania walikuwepo Kitona Airbase, lakini waka-vacate hiyo airbase, kabla majeshi ya Kagame hayajatua hapo kwenda kumpindua Laurent Kabila.

..Kwa msingi huo, it seems to me that Tanzania knew about and tacitly supported Rwanda invasion into Congo, and their attempts to overthrow Laurent Kabila[joseph kabilas father].

..South Africa, under President Mandela, claimed that as SADC chairman, they were not consulted before Zimbabwe, Angola, and Namibia, sent their troops to support to Laurent Kabila citing SADC defence and security clause.

..Now, fast forward 15+ yrs later, wa-Congo milioni 3 wamekufa, Tanzania imebeba mzigo wa wakimbizi, ujangili na uharibifu wa mazingira umeongezeka maeneo ya Kagera na Kigoma. Zaidi, Tanzania na South Africa, kulazimika kupeleka wanajeshi Congo.

..But what saddens me is this SILENCE, while millions have been massacred, women are being raped, and children are being recruited fight in an armed conflict.

 

[Jasusi]

..Congo walipewa msaada na Zimbabwe,Angola,na Namibia, baada ya kuvamiwa na Rwanda.

..Rwanda waliingia Congo kwa mara ya kwanza wakiwa na kundi la Laurent Kabila.

..wakati huo waliwashughulikia Interahamwe waliokimbilia Congo/Zaire wakati wa utawala wa Mobutu.

..baada ya kumsimika madarakani Laurent Kabila, majeshi ya Rwanda yaliendelea kuwepo ndani ya Congo. Kwa maana nyingine Congo walikuwa hawana jeshi, bali walikuwa wanaitegemea Rwanda kwa masuala ya ulinzi.

..Mkuu wa vikosi vya Rwanda vilivyokuwa Congo wakati wa utawala wa Laurent Kabila alikuwa ni James Kabarebe, ambaye baadaye alikuja kuwa mkuu wa majeshi ya Rwanda na sasa hivi ni waziri wa ulinzi ktk serikali ya Kagame.

..sasa ilifika wakati uwepo wa wanajeshi wa Rwanda nchini Congo ukawa kero kwa wananchi. kwanza, wanajeshi wa Rwanda walikuwa wanatuhumiwa kuwanyanyasa wananchi wa Congo. Pili, Raisi Kabila alianza ku-loose support na heshima miongoni mwa wananchi kwa kuonekana kama ni kibaraka wa Rwanda.

..Kutokana na hali hiyo Lauerent Kabila akaamua kwamba wanajeshi wa Rwanda waliokuwa Congo warudi nyumbani kwao. Kitendo hicho kiliwakasirisha watawala wa Rwanda ambao waliamua kumvamia kumpindua Laurent Kabila.

..Rwanda walirusha askari kwa ndenge na kutua kwenye air base ipo Kitona close to Kinshasa. Baada ya hapo wakaanza Kinshasa huko wakizima umeme kwa wakazi wa mji huo, na kikosi kingine kiliekekea kuteka bandari[siikumbuki jina] inayo-supply Kinshasa.

..Madai ya Rwanda yalikuwa ni kwamba Laurent Kabila ameshindwa kuwadhibiti Interahamwe waliokuwa Congo. Swali hilo lilipingwa na watu wengi kwasababu majeshi ya Rwanda chini ya James Kabarebe ndiyo yaliyokuwa yakihusika na ulinzi wa Congo.

..Hoja nyingine ilikuwa ni kwamba, Interahamwe walikuwa wako mpakani eastern Congo, sasa kwanini Rwanda iliamua kuacha kushughulika nao huko mpakani, na badala yake wakarusha madege na askari hadi Kitona na Kinshasa[angalia ramani]kwenda kumpindua Laurent Kabila??

..Zimbabwe, Angola, na Namibia, ndiyo waliokwenda kumuokoa Laurent Kabila. Majeshi hayo yalitoa kipigo kwa majeshi ya Rwanda ambayo yalilazimika kurudi nyuma na kukimbia kuelekea Eastern Congo.

..Kutokana na kipigo walichopata, Rwanda wakaamua kuanzisha kundi la waasi dhidi ya serikali ya Laurent Kabila. Kundi hilo la waasi ndiyo ancestor wa hili kundi la M23. Uganda nao walichangamka na kuanzisha kundi lingine la waasi dhidi ya Kabila. Kundi hilo liliongozwa na Pro.Wamba Dia Wamba aliyekuwa mhadhiri mwandamizi hapa UDSM.


NB:

..Zimbabwe, Angola, na Namibia, walikwenda kumsaidia Laurent Kabila kwa kuzingatia makubaliano ya ulinzi ya nchi wanachama wa SADC. Mkataba wa amani wa uliosainiwa baina ya Wacongo wenyewe ulielekeza kwamba majeshi yote ya kigeni yataondoka ktk ardhi ya Congo.

..majeshi ya Rwanda na Uganda yaliwahi kupigana vita ndani ya Congo. Sasa hilo nalo ni uthibitisho kwamba hawakuwa huko kufuatilia makundi ya waasi kama Interahamwe au LRA.

cc Koborer, Jasusi, Bukyanagandi, Nguruvi3

Profesa Dia Wamba mpaka leo yuko Dar-es-Salaam. Mbona hujataja kuwa Zimbabwe ilianza nayo kupora dhahabu ya Congo?

 

[Jasusi]

Koborer, Jasusi,

..naona kama Tanzania, South Africa, na SADC ,sasa tunakula matapishi yetu.

..Tanzania walikuwepo Kitona Airbase, lakini waka-vacate hiyo airbase, kabla majeshi ya Kagame hayajatua hapo kwenda kumpindua Laurent Kabila.

..Kwa msingi huo, it seems to me that Tanzania knew about and tacitly supported Rwanda invasion into Congo, and their attempts to overthrow Laurent Kabila[joseph kabilas father].

..South Africa, under President Mandela, claimed that as SADC chairman, they were not consulted before Zimbabwe, Angola, and Namibia, sent their troops to support to Laurent Kabila citing SADC defence and security clause.

..Now, fast forward 15+ yrs later, wa-Congo milioni 3 wamekufa, Tanzania imebeba mzigo wa wakimbizi, ujangili na uharibifu wa mazingira umeongezeka maeneo ya Kagera na Kigoma. Zaidi, Tanzania na South Africa, kulazimika kupeleka wanajeshi Congo.

..But what saddens me is this SILENCE, while millions have been massacred, women are being raped, and children are being recruited fight in an armed conflict.

jokaKuu,'
Tanzania iliondoa majeshi yake Congo baada ya Angola, Zimbabwe kupeleka majeshi yake kumnusuru Kabila. Tanzania haikutaka kujikuta katikati ya mapigano hayo--uamuzi wa busara.

 

[Nguruvi3]

JokaKuu #13 , propaganda zilizokuwepo ni kuwa kuna vita na wanawake kunajisiwa na waasi wa Kongo.
Hakuna aliyeweza kufahamu nini hasa kinaendelea isipokuwa kwa nchi chache sana.
Propaganda ya pili ni kuwafuatilia waasi wa Intarahamwe, lakini kama ulivyosema haieleweki ilikuwaje Uganda na Rwanda zikapigana ndani ya Kongo.

Hata leo ni watu wachache wanaoelewa kuwa M23 si Wakongo ni Wanyarwanda na hapa niseme ni Watutsi wanaoungwa mkono na Kagame kuleta vurugu. Ilikuja bainika kwa wengi baada ya kuonekana kila muasi wa M23 ana uhisiano na Rwanda, in fact wanapata misaada ya silaha mavazi n.k. kutoka Kigali.

Kuhusu Tanzania, nakumbuka nilikuwa airport nakuona dege la kijeshi la South Africa likipakia askari wetu kwenda Kongo. Nakumbuka moja kati ya viongozi wa jeshi alikuwa Brig Gen Ambrose Bayeke.

Baada ya muda BMW akarudisha askari haraka tena akisema '' .....mnataka nianze kupokea majeneza hapa''.
BWM alikasirishwa na kitendo cha askari kwenda kulifunza jeshi la Kabila ulinzi na usalama, behind the scene kulikuwa na mazungumzo yanayomhusu Kabila na Kagame. Kilichomuudhi BWM ilikuwa ni kutambua kuwa ana expose askari wetu katika situation hatari kwa vile mwenyeji alikuwa na mazungumzo na waasi tena mkuu wa jeshi akiwa sehemu ya waasi. Akamtosa Laurent Kabila na ndipo anguko lake likaanza.

Huu ulikuwa ni kama mfano ule ule wa Jenerali mmoja maarufu sana aliyekuwa anasimamia majeshi yetu dhidi ya RENAMO. Jenerali alirudi na kuiambia serikali kuwa hakukuwa na sababu za vijana wetu kupoteza maisha kwa ugomvi wa mtu na binadamu yake, askari wakarudishwa.

Swali ambalo ni la kujiuliza ni kuwa kama Kagame anaunga mkono M23 ili kuwamaliza Intarahamwe, iweje Kagame huyo huyo aunge mkono M23 kwa madai ya kuigawa Kongo? Kuna connections gani kati ya M23, Intarahamwe na kuitenga Kivu kama si kujificha nyuma ya uhalifu.

In the end duniaimeanza kubaini kuwa mgogoro wa Kongo si wa wananchi wa Kongo, ni vita ya Rwanda kutaka kumega sehemu ya Kongo kwa msaada wa Kagame. Na Kagame anatumia genocide kama kinga kwa hili ingawa dunia imeshaanza kumbaini kuwa licha ya ushiriki wake katika mauaji ya kimbari sasa ana damu za watu milioni 3

 

[Koba]

No Rwanda military or Rwandese in Congolese land,wanaouana na kuleteana shida zote hizi ni Congolese wenyewe,so stop blaming Kagame or Rwanda,hao M23 ni legit Congolese na ni one out of many groups zinazo fight ndani ya Congo,kumlaumu Kagame kwa hii issue is just a waste of time.

 

[JokaKuu]

Jasusi, Nguruvi3,

..kwa uelewa wangu JWTZ walikuwa wanafundisha wanajeshi wa DRC na kambi lao lilikuwa ni Kitona Airbase.

..sasa hapo Kitona Airbase ndipo ambapo James Kabarebe na askari wake walitua na kuanza kusambaa ktk harakati zao za kumpindua Laurent Kabila.

..binafsi nakubaliana na uamuzi wa Tanzania kuondoa majeshi yetu. lakini napinga uamuzi wa Tanzania kukaa kimya wakati nchi moja ya SADC imevamiwa na majeshi ya kigeni. napinga ukimya wa Tanzania kutolaani mauaji ya wa-Congo milioni 3, ubakaji, pamoja na wizi wa rasilimali za Congo.

..kuhusu Zimbabwe, hawa have suffered a lot kwa ajili ya wananchi wa Congo. Kabla ya kuwalaumu Zimbabwe kwa lolote lile, have u thought of a scenarion ambapo na wao wangebwaga manyanga na Kagame na waasi wanatamba Congo nzima?

..Zimbabwe wanalaumiwa kwa "kuiba" dhahabu na almasi za Congo, lakini tukumbuke kwamba wakati wanapigana vita nchi za magharibi pamoja na taasisi za fedha za kimataifa waliiwekea Zimbabwe vikwazo vya uchumi, biashara, na kijeshi. Pia ktk maeneo yote ambayo majeshi ya Zimbabwe yalikuwepo, hakukuwa na ukiukwaji wa haki za binadamu.

..Rwanda na Uganda walikuwa wanamiminiwa misaada na nchi za magharibi, pamoja na IMF na WB. Sasa kulikuwa na ulazima gani wa kushiriki ktk kupora rasilimali za Congo mpaka kufikia kuuana wakati wakipigania migodi ya madini??

NB:

..Kabila alilazimishwa kuzungumza na waasi.

..Upande wa SADC uliohusisha South Africa, Botswana,Tanzania, na Zambia, ndiyo uliowapa waasi hadhi sawa na serikali ya Kabila Snr na kulazimisha mazungumzo ya amani.

..Kilichopaswa kufanyika ni kutamka kwamba DRC wamevamiwa na Rwanda. Hakukuwa na waasi pale.

..Prof.Wamba Dia Wamba aliona kwamba anatumika kwa hiyo akajitoa ktk kundi la waasi. Sasa hivi nadhani ni senator ktk bunge la Congo.

..muasi mwingine, akiitwa Bizima Karaha, hata hajulikani alipo sasa hivi.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Hapo sasa. Nasikia Kabila analipwa mshahara wa dola milioni 75 kwa mwaka. Ameshindwa kuimarisha jeshi lake miaka yote hii. Ameshindwa ku extend mamlaka ya Kinshasa nchi nzima. Congo inahitaji mwanamapinduzi mithili ya Fidel Castro. Siyo huyu jamaa kazi yake kuvaa suti tu na kunywa champagne wakati nchi inakwenda to the dogs. Naona hata Waangola wamechoka kumsaidia. Ni rahisi kumlaumu Kagame lakini lawama kubwa zaidi zielekezwe kwa Kabila.

Mkuu tutasema mengi, lakini bila ya Dunia kujua asili ya Kabila Jr ni wapi tutaendelea kutwanga maji kwenye kinu!! Niwaeleze kitu - jamaa hawa wanafanya usanii tu i.e wanachezea Dunia akili hakuna cha M7, PK wala Kabila wote hao lao moja.

 

[Bukyanagandi]

No Rwanda military or Rwandese in Congolese land,wanaouana na kuleteana shida zote hizi ni Congolese wenyewe,so stop blaming Kagame or Rwanda,hao M23 ni legit Congolese na ni one out of many groups zinazo fight ndani ya Congo,kumlaumu Kagame kwa hii issue is just a waste of time.

Mkuu KOBA, je una maoni gani kuhusu ufafanuzi wa kina wa dada "ALICE GATEBUKE" uliyo letwa hapa jamvini na mkuu JokaKuu. Kumbuka maoni ya Alice Gatebuke yanonekana wazi wazi haya pendelei upande wowote na kizuri zaidi ni MTUTSI.