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Judging Gaddafi with open mind!!!

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    By Jean- Paul Pougala.

    Africans should think about the real reasons why western countries are waging war on Libya, writes Jean-Paul Pougala, in an analysis that traces the country’s role in shaping the African Union and the development of the continent.

    It was Gaddafi’s Libya that offered all of Africa its first revolution in modern times – connecting the entire continent by telephone, television, radio broadcasting and several other technological applications such as telemedicine and distance teaching. And thanks to the WMAX radio bridge, a low cost connection was made available across the continent, including in rural areas.
    It began in 1992, when 45 African nations established RASCOM (Regional African Satellite Communication Organization) so that Africa would have its own satellite and slash communication costs in the continent. This was a time when phone calls to and from Africa were the most expensive in the world because of the annual US$500 million fee pocketed by Europe for the use of its satellites like Intelsat for phone conversations, including those within the same country.
    An African satellite only cost a onetime payment of US$400 million and the continent no longer had to pay a US$500 million annual lease. Which banker wouldn’t finance such a project? But the problem remained – how can slaves, seeking to free themselves from their master’s exploitation ask the master’s help to achieve that freedom? Not surprisingly, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the USA, Europe only made vague promises for 14 years. Gaddafi put an end to these futile pleas to the western ‘benefactors’ with their exorbitant interest rates. The Libyan guide put US$300 million on the table; the African Development Bank added US$50 million more and the West African Development Bank a further US$27 million – and that’s how Africa got its first communications satellite on 26 December 2007.

    China and Russia followed suit and shared their technology and helped launch satellites for South Africa, Nigeria, Angola, Algeria and a second African satellite was launched in July 2010. The first totally indigenously built satellite and manufactured on African soil, in Algeria, is set for 2020. This satellite is aimed at competing with the best in the world, but at ten times less the cost, a real challenge.
    This is how a symbolic gesture of a mere US$300 million changed the life of an entire continent. Gaddafi’s Libya cost the West, not just depriving it of US$500 million per year but the billions of dollars in debt and interest that the initial loan would generate for years to come and in an exponential manner, thereby helping maintain an occult system in order to plunder the continent.

    The US$30 billion frozen by Mr Obama belong to the Libyan Central Bank and had been earmarked as the Libyan contribution to three key projects which would add the finishing touches to the African federation – the African Investment Bank in Syrte, Libya, the establishment in 2011 of the African Monetary Fund to be based in Yaounde with a US$42 billion capital fund and the Abuja-based African Central Bank in Nigeria which when it starts printing African money will ring the death knell for the CFA franc through which Paris has been able to maintain its hold on some African countries for the last fifty years. It is easy to understand the French wrath against Gaddafi.
    The African Monetary Fund is expected to totally supplant the African activities of the International Monetary Fund which, with only US$25 billion, was able to bring an entire continent to its knees and make it swallow questionable privatisation like forcing African countries to move from public to private monopolies. No surprise then that on 16-17December 2010, the Africans unanimously rejected attempts by Western countries to join the African Monetary Fund, saying it was open only to African nations.
    It is increasingly obvious that after Libya, the western coalition will go after Algeria, because apart from its huge energy resources, the country has cash reserves of around €150 billion. This is what lures the countries that are bombing Libya and they all have one thing in common – they are practically bankrupt. The USA alone, has a staggering debt of $US14,000 billion, France, Great Britain and Italy each have a US$2,000 billion public deficit compared to less than US$400 billion in public debt for 46 African countries combined.
    Inciting spurious wars in Africa in the hope that this will revitalise their economies which are sinking ever more into the doldrums will ultimately hasten the western decline which actually began in 1884 during the notorious Berlin Conference. As the American economist Adam Smith predicted in 1865 when he publicly backed Abraham Lincoln for the abolition of slavery, ‘the economy of any country which relies on the slavery of blacks is destined to descend into hell the day those countries awaken’.
    To destabilise and destroy the African union which was veering dangerously (for the West) towards a United States of Africa under the guiding hand of Gaddafi, the European Union first tried, unsuccessfully, to create the Union for the Mediterranean (UPM). North Africa somehow had to be cut off from the rest of Africa, using the old tired racist clichés of the 18th and 19th centuries ,which claimed that Africans of Arab origin were more evolved and civilised than the rest of the continent. This failed because Gaddafi refused to buy into it. He soon understood what game was being played when only a handful of African countries were invited to join the Mediterranean grouping without informing the African Union but inviting all 27 members of the European Union.
    Without the driving force behind the African Federation, the UPM failed even before it began, still-born with Sarkozy as president and Mubarak as vice president. The French foreign minister, Alain Juppe is now attempting to re-launch the idea, banking no doubt on the fall of Gaddafi. What African leaders fail to understand is that as long as the European Union continues to finance the African Union, the status quo will remain, because no real independence. This is why the European Union has encouraged and financed regional groupings in Africa.
    It is obvious that the West African Economic Community (ECOWAS), which has an embassy in Brussels and depends for the bulk of its funding on the European Union, is a vociferous opponent to the African federation. That’s why Lincoln fought in the US war of secession because the moment a group of countries come together in a regional political organisation, it weakens the main group. That is what Europe wanted and the Africans have never understood the game plan, creating a plethora of regional groupings, COMESA, UDEAC, SADC, and the Great Maghreb which never saw the light of day thanks to Gaddafi who understood what was happening.
    For most Africans, Gaddafi is a generous man, a humanist, known for his unselfish support for the struggle against the racist regime in South Africa. If he had been an egotist, he wouldn’t have risked the wrath of the West to help the ANC both militarily and financially in the fight against apartheid. This was why Mandela, soon after his release from 27 years in jail, decided to break the UN embargo and travel to Libya on 23 October 1997. For five long years, no plane could touch down in Libya because of the embargo. One needed to take a plane to the Tunisian city of Jerba and continue by road for five hours to reach Ben Gardane, cross the border and continue on a desert road for three hours before reaching Tripoli. The other solution was to go through Malta, and take a night ferry on ill-maintained boats to the Libyan coast. A hellish journey for a whole people, simply to punish one man.
    Mandela didn’t mince his words when the former US president Bill Clinton said the visit was an ‘unwelcome’ one – ‘No country can claim to be the policeman of the world and no state can dictate to another what it should do’. He added – ‘Those that yesterday were friends of our enemies have the gall today to tell me not to visit my brother Gaddafi, they are advising us to be ungrateful and forget our friends of the past.’
    Indeed, the West still considered the South African racists to be their brothers who needed to be protected. That’s why the members of the ANC, including Nelson Mandela, were considered to be dangerous terrorists. It was only on 2 July 2008, that the US Congress finally voted a law to remove the name of Nelson Mandela and his ANC comrades from their black list, not because they realised how stupid that list was but because they wanted to mark Mandela’s 90th birthday. If the West was truly sorry for its past support for Mandela’s enemies and really sincere when they name streets and places after him, how can they continue to wage war against someone who helped Mandela and his people to be victorious, Gaddafi?
    And what if Gaddafi’s Libya were more democratic than the USA, France, Britain and other countries waging war to export democracy to Libya? On 19 March 2003, President George Bush began bombing Iraq under the pretext of bringing democracy. On 19 March 2011, exactly eight years later to the day, it was the French president’s turn to rain down bombs over Libya, once again claiming it was to bring democracy. Nobel peace prize-winner and US President Obama says unleashing cruise missiles from submarines is to oust the dictator and introduce democracy.
    The question that anyone with even minimum intelligence cannot help asking is the following: Are countries like France, England, the USA, Italy, Norway, Denmark, Poland who defend their right to bomb Libya on the strength of their self proclaimed democratic status really democratic? If yes, are they more democratic than Gaddafi’s Libya? The answer in fact is a resounding NO, for the plain and simple reason that democracy doesn’t exist. This isn’t a personal opinion, but a quote from someone whose native town Geneva, hosts the bulk of UN institutions. The quote is from Jean Jacques Rousseau, born in Geneva in 1712 and who writes in chapter four of the third book of the famous ‘Social Contract’ that ‘there never was a true democracy and there never will be.’
    Rousseau sets out the following four conditions for a country to be labelled a democracy and according to these Gaddafi’s Libya is far more democratic than the USA, France and the others claiming to export democracy:
    1. The State: The bigger a country, the less democratic it can be. According to Rousseau, the state has to be extremely small so that people can come together and know each other. Before asking people to vote, one must ensure that everybody knows everyone else, otherwise voting will be an act without any democratic basis, a simulacrum of democracy to elect a dictator.
    The Libyan state is based on a system of tribal allegiances, which by definition group people together in small entities. The democratic spirit is much more present in a tribe, a village than in a big country, simply because people know each other, share a common life rhythm which involves a kind of self-regulation or even self-censorship in that the reactions and counter reactions of other members impacts on the group.
    From this perspective, it would appear that Libya fits Rousseau’s conditions better than the USA, France and Great Britain, all highly urbanised societies where most neighbours don’t even say hello to each other and therefore don’t know each other even if they have lived side by side for twenty years. These countries leapfrogged leaped into the next stage – ‘the vote’ – which has been cleverly sanctified to obfuscate the fact that voting on the future of the country is useless if the voter doesn’t know the other citizens. This has been pushed to ridiculous limits with voting rights being given to people living abroad. Communicating with and amongst each other is a precondition for any democratic debate before an election.
    2. Simplicity in customs and behavioural patterns are also essential if one is to avoid spending the bulk of the time debating legal and judicial procedures in order to deal with the multitude of conflicts of interest inevitable in a large and complex society. Western countries define themselves as civilised nations with a more complex social structure whereas Libya is described as a primitive country with a simple set of customs. This aspect too indicates that Libya responds better to Rousseau’s democratic criteria than all those trying to give lessons in democracy. Conflicts in complex societies are most often won by those with more power, which is why the rich manage to avoid prison because they can afford to hire top lawyers and instead arrange for state repression to be directed against someone one who stole a banana in a supermarket rather than a financial criminal who ruined a bank. In the city of New York for example where 75 per cent of the population is white, 80 per cent of management posts are occupied by whites who make up only 20 per cent of incarcerated people.
    3. Equality in status and wealth: A look at the Forbes 2010 list shows who the richest people in each of the countries currently bombing Libya are and the difference between them and those who earn the lowest salaries in those nations; a similar exercise on Libya will reveal that in terms of wealth distribution, Libya has much more to teach than those fighting it now, and not the contrary. So here too, using Rousseau’s criteria, Libya is more democratic than the nations pompously pretending to bring democracy. In the USA, 5 per cent of the population owns 60 per cent of the national wealth, making it the most unequal and unbalanced society in the world.
    4. No luxuries: according to Rousseau there can’t be any luxury if there is to be democracy. Luxury, he says, makes wealth a necessity which then becomes a virtue in itself, it, and not the welfare of the people becomes the goal to be reached at all cost, ‘Luxury corrupts both the rich and the poor, the one through possession and the other through envy; it makes the nation soft and prey to vanity; it distances people from the State and enslaves them, making them a slave to opinion.’
    Is there more luxury in France than in Libya? The reports on employees committing suicide because of stressful working conditions even in public or semi-public companies, all in the name of maximising profit for a minority and keeping them in luxury, happen in the West, not in Libya.
    The American sociologist C. Wright Mills wrote in 1956 that American democracy was a ‘dictatorship of the elite’. According to Mills, the USA is not a democracy because it is money that talks during elections and not the people. The results of each election are the expression of the voice of money and not the voice of the people. After Bush senior and Bush junior, they are already talking about a younger Bush for the 2012 Republican primaries. Moreover, as Max Weber pointed out, since political power is dependent on the bureaucracy, the US has 43 million bureaucrats and military personnel who effectively rule the country but without being elected and are not accountable to the people for their actions. One person (a rich one) is elected, but the real power lies with the caste of the wealthy who then get nominated to be ambassadors, generals, etc.
    How many people in these self-proclaimed democracies know that Peru’s constitution prohibits an outgoing president from seeking a second consecutive mandate? How many know that in Guatemala, not only can an outgoing president not seek re-election to the same post, no one from that person’s family can aspire to the top job either? Or that Rwanda is the only country in the world that has 56 per cent female parliamentarians? How many people know that in the 2007 CIA index, four of the world’s best-governed countries are African? That the top prize goes to Equatorial Guinea whose public debt represents only 1.14 per cent of GDP?
    Rousseau maintains that civil wars, revolts and rebellions are the ingredients of the beginning of democracy. Because democracy is not an end, but a permanent process of the reaffirmation of the natural rights of human beings which in countries all over the world (without exception) are trampled upon by a handful of men and women who have hijacked the power of the people to perpetuate their supremacy. There are here and there groups of people who have usurped the term ‘democracy’ – instead of it being an ideal towards which one strives it has become a label to be appropriated or a slogan which is used by people who can shout louder than others. If a country is calm, like France or the USA, that is to say without any rebellions, it only means, from Rousseau’s perspective, that the dictatorial system is sufficiently repressive to pre-empt any revolt.
    It wouldn’t be a bad thing if the Libyans revolted. What is bad is to affirm that people stoically accept a system that represses them all over the world without reacting. And Rousseau concludes: ‘Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium – translation – If gods were people, they would govern themselves democratically. Such a perfect government is not applicable to human beings.’ To claim that one is killing Libyans for their own good is a hoax.
    After 500 years of a profoundly unequal relationship with the West, it is clear that we don’t have the same criteria of what is good and bad. We have deeply divergent interests. How can one not deplore the ‘yes’ votes from three sub-Saharan countries (Nigeria, South Africa and Gabon) for resolution 1973 that inaugurated the latest form of colonisation baptised ‘the protection of peoples’, which legitimises the racist theories that have informed Europeans since the 18th century and according to which North Africa has nothing to do with sub-Saharan Africa, that North Africa is more evolved, cultivated and civilised than the rest of Africa?
    It is as if Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Algeria were not part of Africa, Even the United Nations seems to ignore the role of the African Union in the affairs of member states. The aim is to isolate sub Saharan African countries to better isolate and control them. Indeed, Algeria (US$16 billion) and Libya (US$10 billion ) together contribute 62 per cent of the US$42 billion which constitute the capital of the African Monetary Fund (AMF). The biggest and most populous country in sub Saharan Africa, Nigeria, followed by South Africa are far behind with only 3 billion dollars each.
    It is disconcerting to say the least that for the first time in the history of the United Nations, war has been declared against a people without having explored the slightest possibility of a peaceful solution to the crisis. Does Africa really belong anymore to this organisation? Nigeria and South Africa are prepared to vote ‘Yes’ to everything the West asks because they naively believe the vague promises of a permanent seat at the Security Council with similar veto rights. They both forget that France has no power to offer anything. If it did, Mitterand would have long done the needful for Helmut Kohl’s Germany.
    A reform of the United Nations is not on the agenda. The only way to make a point is to use the Chinese method – all 50 African nations should quit the United Nations and only return if their longstanding demand is finally met, a seat for the entire African federation or nothing. This non-violent method is the only weapon of justice available to the poor and weak that we are. We should simply quit the United Nations because this organisation, by its very structure and hierarchy, is at the service of the most powerful.
    We should leave the United Nations to register our rejection of a worldview based on the annihilation of those who are weaker. They are free to continue as before but at least we will not be party to it and say we agree when we were never asked for our opinion. And even when we expressed our point of view, like we did on Saturday 19 March in Nouakchott, when we opposed the military action, our opinion was simply ignored and the bombs started falling on the African people.
    Today’s events are reminiscent of what happened with China in the past. Today, one recognises the Ouattara government, the rebel government in Libya, like one did at the end of the Second World War with China. The so-called international community chose Taiwan to be the sole representative of the Chinese people instead of Mao’s China. It took 26 years when on 25 October 1971, for the UN to pass resolution 2758 which all Africans should read to put an end to human folly. China was admitted and on its terms – it refused to be a member if it didn’t have a veto right. When the demand was met and the resolution tabled, it still took a year for the Chinese foreign minister to respond in writing to the UN Secretary General on 29 September 1972, a letter which didn’t say yes or thank you but spelt out guarantees required for China’s dignity to be respected.
    What does Africa hope to achieve from the United Nations without playing hard ball? We saw how in Cote d’Ivoire a UN bureaucrat considers himself to be above the constitution of the country. We entered this organisation by agreeing to be slaves and to believe that we will be invited to dine at the same table and eat from plates we ourselves washed is not just credulous, it is stupid.
    When the African Union endorsed Ouattara’s victory and glossed over contrary reports from its own electoral observers simply to please our former masters, how can we expect to be respected? When South African president Zuma declares that Ouattara hasn’t won the elections and then says the exact opposite during a trip to Paris, one is entitled to question the credibility of these leaders who claim to represent and speak on behalf of a billion Africans.
    Africa’s strength and real freedom will only come if it can take properly thought out actions and assume the consequences. Dignity and respect come with a price tag. Are we prepared to pay it? Otherwise, our place is in the kitchen and in the toilets in order to make others comfortable.

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    Lunyungu JF-Expert Member

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    Maongezi ya huyu marehemu mkiyataka nendeni Libya .Wenye Nchi wao wanasonga mbele nyie mnahangaika na posts zake hapa kila kukicha kwa faida gani ?
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    Nawashangaa hata mimi watanzania badala ya kuzungumzia kwa nini maendeleo yao yako jinsi yalivyo, jinsi waishivyo bila umeme, jinsi dola ilivyofikia sh 1800 wao wanasumbuka na ghadafi ambaye kauwawa na wananchi wake ambao wamekuwa wakishangilia wazi wazi.
    Mtakuwa lini mawazo yenu enyi wadanganyika wangu?
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    utantambua JF-Expert Member

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    Same old story.
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    Musharaf Senior Member

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    hapana, ni sawa tu na TZ watu wanachongaaa sana ooh huyu vile huyu kile, lakini hao hao wanaendelea kula bata ninyi mnalala na jando, Mtaongea tu hapa jf usiku mtalala
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    Sawa na kikwete tukimuua leo, mataifa ya nje yataona tumeua malaika!
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    godaja New Member

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    mimi nashindwa kuwaelewa watanzania ambao wamekua wakipiga fujo juu ya kifo cha Gadaffi.Swali langu ni moja tu kwa watanzania wenzangu,hivi leo hii JK akitangaza kumuachia madaraka mtoto wake Ridhiwani, mtajisikiaje?
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    Kowero Fredy Member

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    Kama swal lenyewe ndo ilo tu ndugu halitosh kunifanya mim nisisikitike juu ya kifo cha Gadaf mana mazur aliyofanya yanafunika ilo mara kumi.hakuna kiongoz mwenye mazur tu mjomba.wake up!
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    Joseph JF-Expert Member

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    Kwani uliona amemuachia mwanae madaraka kama unavyotaka tuamini?Wewe unapata nini toka katika utawala wa JK ukilinganisha na ilivyokuwa kwa Gaddafi?
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    Marytina JF-Expert Member

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    ina maana wale maelfu kwa maelfu waliokuwa wakiandamana ni wajinga
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    Mada hii ni kama zile za "Mimi ningekuwa baba wewe ungekuwa nani"? Pitia na chambua vizuri historia ya Ghadafi na Libya, utaona kabisa kuwa hawezi kulinganishawa na JK hata kama Gadhafi angetawala miaka 50! Jk Mlinganishe na Iddi Amin aou basi Mobutu
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    Hawakuwa wajinga na walikuwa wana hoja zao,ila kuandamana wakati umeshika silaha na unajifanya kudai haki si kweli,tukubaliane tu kuwa hali ya Libya na hapa kwetu ni tofauti sana,ungenijibu maswali yangu ya msingi kwanza then tuendelee kujenga hoja hapa.
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    Uko dunia ipi kaka? Hujui hata shetani ana wafuasi? Soma alama za nyakati, Yesu alikuwa mwema lakini aliuawa kinyama, hitler alikuwa kama mnyama lakini alikuwa na wafuasi wanaompenda, JF Kennedy alikuwa Rais wa kipekee Marekani lakini aliuawa kwa risasi,......so...Every cloud has asilver lining. Usituaminishe unachokiamini.
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    Atakuwa anataka viboko!
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    Napita tuu nitarudi baadaeeeeee..!!
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    Inaonekana Marytina hufungui kurasa za mitandao mbalimbali na TV stations.
    Hujasikia huduma walizokuwa wakipewa raia wa Libya? Hujasikia watawala wapya wamesema nchi itatawaliwa kwa Sharia? unajua maana yake.
    Kwa kukunong'oneza kidogo tu Saudi Arabia mwanamke haruhusiwi kuendesha gari, haruhusiwi kupiga kura - just few examples.
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    pamoja na Bernard kudai watanzania haturidhishwi na jinsi wanalibya walivyoshughulikia ufisadi wa kadaffi kwa kumtia hatiani bila ya mashitaka yake kueleweka.......................au hata kupewa nafasi ya kujitetea........................nifahamuvyo......................baraza la mawaziri lilikuwa halijakutana na hayo ni maoni yake binafsi.......................na hivyo hayawezi kukuzwa kumtetea muuaji kadaffi.........

    lakini bernard ana sababu nyingine za kujikomba kwa kadaffi na kuhatarisha mahusiano na wababe wapya wa libya kwa maana ya kujipendekeza ili sisi kupata makombo yao..............................kupitia ombaomba..................saidia sisi masikini wa kujitakia...........................

    sababu za ngebe za bernard kumlilia jambazi Kadaffi ni pamoja na:-

    1) 15% ya michango ya AU kadaffi alikuwa anawahonga wanachama ili kumpigia debe awe Raisi wa AU na hivyo kuwarubuni walibya wenzie wamgwaye kuwa kumbe...Kadaffi is an international statesman........................like mzee kifimbo..................................ni dhahiri membe alikuwa analilia hiyo michango akijua wababe wapya tajwa hawana huo unafiki na uendekezaji wa ufisadi.................bunge la libya kamwe halijawahi kupitisha hizo rushwa...........................

    2) Kadaffi alikwisha anza tabia ya kuwapa viongozi wa afrika kama zimbabwe dhahabu wamtunzie.........................Mugabe amepewa shehena ya tani 200......pamoja na vikomberezo kebekebe.....kenya wamepewa miradi mingi ya mafuta na gesi ukiachilia mbali ununuzi wa hoteli ya kifahari ya five star yenye mgogoro wa kashfa ya Goldenberg..............................................ya wanamagamba waliopewa au kuahidiwa na kadaffi ningewaomba wajieleze wenyewe.............wajipimie................................maana nikiwapima wataanza kukanusha......................

    3) NTC tayari wamesema wao kushikamana na NATO...............hii kwa wale waliotegemea waarabu kuunganisha nguvu dhidi ya taifa la Muumba.......................taifa la wana-Israel.......hili ni pigo kubwa...............................na ccm tangia wakati wa mchonga....................haikulitafakari Neno la Mungu...................ambalo lipo wazi...................Israel ni taifa lake na hakuna wa kuwabughudhi tena hadi mwisho wa dunia...............................sasa kwa nini tupigane na neno la Muumba...................kama siyo uendawazimu...................na upumbavu usio na kifani....................................Ni dhahiri Membe hoja zake zililenga kutetea dini na masilahi yao watajwa......wakereketwa ambao hawana mwelekeo wowote zaidi ya kulalama....lakini siyo masilahi ya wengi ambao hatushabikii kupambana na Mola kwenye utukufu wake....................Hili halinishangazi ukizingatia hata bunge letu lisilo na kichwa wala miguu wanaolitafuna wanaliita tukufu....................swali langu huwa kama Bunge ni tukufu sasa mwenyezi Mungu ni kitu gani?..wapagani bungeni hawaoni haya kulitukuza Bunge saawia na Muumba................

    4) Katika mahojiano na TBC1, Membe alikiri ya kuwa hakulala siku wababe wapya wa libya walipomharakisha kadaffi kwenda Qibla......................hivi kwa nini akose usingizi kama siyo kuhisi yaliyomkuta kadaffi yapo njiani kuwakuta walafi wa wanamagamba???????????????? hapa namwona Membe akijililia nafsi yake akijua siku ya siku.......itakapowadia..........tutawaburuza hadharani hata wakijaribu kututamanisha na ahadi za hongo...................kama kadaffi alivyofanya...............kuwa ana midola na midhahabu kamwe hatutazisikiliza.........ngonjera tajwa........ila kuwatia kabali wajanja wa sisiemu hawa bila ya kuwaonea huruma...............................

    5) Historia hujirudia yenyewe...................pengine hili ndilo ambalo lilimfanya Membe akose usingizi na kutia chumvi kuwa nasi tunachukizwa na kadaffi kuwajibishwa kikamilifu..............na raia zake kwa kuwadhulkumu haki zao za kimsingi ikiwemo ya kujichagulia viongozi wawapendao.............miaka ya 60.............." a wind of change swept across Africa to decolonolize the continent.............."...................................................are we not on the verge of something similar?.......... the only difference here the hunters now have been reduced into the hunted????????????????????????????????????????????

    Membe acha kutuingiza kwenye kasheshe zenye masilahi binafsi kwako na jamaa zako wachache....................................la muhimu la kuangalia viongozi wote wa nchi za kiarabu ambao wanapambana na taifa la mwenyezi Mungu...........................mwisho wao ni mauti asema Bwana.....................

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    HISIA KALI JF-Expert Member

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    Kwa wale wasiokuwa na uvivu wa kusoma lugha ya kiengereza nadhani mkisoma mtapata kitu zaida cha kuongeza au kuboresha ufahamu wenu juu ya mambo fulani.

    ''People Power''

    The first part of the "Green Book" is "Solving the problem of democracy: The Authority of the People". This political aspect of the Third International Theory, published in January 1976, rejects traditional forms of democracy such as parliament, political parties, referendums, and outlines the basic principles of direct popular democracy based on the people's congresses and people's committees. The book argues that democracy and other freedoms are in fact nothing but a kind of dictatorship.

    According to the "Green Book", the winner in the struggle for power is always an instrument of government - an individual, party, class; and the loser is always the people, and thus, true democracy. The political struggle often leads to the rise to power of an instrument of government which represents a minority and that through legal democratic means. Thus, all existing political regimes falsify genuine democracy and are dictatorships.

    Parliamentarism, according to Gaddafi, is a perverse solution to the problem of democracy. A Parliament can not speak on behalf of the people, because democracy means the rule of the people, not of those who act on its behalf. Methods of electing the parliament can not be considered democratic, because the masses become completely disconnected from the Members of Parliament. The MPs monopolize the power of the masses and the right to decide their business for them. Parliament, in fact, represents not the people, but the party that won the elections. In fact, the people is used by the political forces in the struggle for power. The system of elected parliaments is a demagogic system because votes can be bought and manipulated, that is, parliamentary representation is a fraud. In general, the theory of representative government is, Gaddafi argues, an outdated practice that was invented by philosophers and thinkers at the time when the common folk were ordered about like livestock by their rulers.

    The party, according to the "Green Book", is a modern tool of dictatorial rule - it is the power of a part over the whole. Parties are established by groups of people to act in their interests, or to impose their views on the public and to establish their ideology on it. The number of parties in a system does not alter the substance of the matter. Moreover, the more numerous the parties are, the more intensive is the power struggle between them, which in turn undermines the programmes geared to benefit the entire society. The interests of society and of its development are sacrificed for the sake of the partisan struggle for power.

    In addition, parties may be corrupt and can be bribed from the outside and inside. The 'opposition' is not an organ of control over the activities of the people of the ruling party, it only waits for the right moment to take the place of the ruling party at the trough of power. Control is in the hands of the party in power (through Parliament), and power in the hands of the party in control.

    Gaddafi compares party and clan. In his view, in the struggle for power, the party is no different from a power struggle between tribes and clans. Both types of struggle are portrayed as having a negative and disintegrating effect on society.

    Referendum is also described as a falsification of democracy. Voters can say only "yes" or "no." The theory states that everyone should be able to justify their desire and the cause of their approval or disapproval. Therefore, to be completely democratic, it is necessary to create such an instrument of government, which would be identical to the entire nation as a whole, rather than to a representative body acting on its behalf.
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    Lu-ma-ga JF-Expert Member

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    for presidency 2015
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    kopuko Senior Member

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    on top of that,ten days kabla ya uchaguzi mkuu wa mwaka huu,ccm walimtuma membe personal kufata ten billion kwa gadaff ili kuja kusaidia uchaguzi,ana kila sababu ya kuguswa na kifo hiki,membe kaisemea sisiem na si Tanzania