JF being used by Jews to condemn Iran?

[The Khoisan]

JF BEING USED BY JEWS TO CONDEMN IRAN!!!

• Tanzania has nothing to do with Iran’s internal affairs
• Our cooperation is based on mutual respect
• Let’s not interfere in Iran’s internal affairs if we cannot interfere in ZNZ’s

Some well-intentioned Premium members of this Forum seated leisurely in their Vijijis in Butiama are unknowingly and unwittingly being used by the western and Jewish propaganda machines to confuse the ordinary members of this Forum.
These Premium members amid our midst are trying to sway the opinion of Tanzanians to be in favour of the Jewish and US against our recent stand to join hands with our brothers and sisters in Iran who are struggling to extricate themselves from the quagmire of western and Jewish influence.
We, Tanzanians as a country cannot and should not interfere in the internal affairs of
another brotherly country for the benefit of the Americans and for the
benefit of the Jewish people who have for more than 50 years now subjected the Palestinian people into a sanguinary suppression, slavery and misery – unseen in any past colonial rule in this planet.

The current standoff between Iran and the Western powers has nothing to do with Tanzanians and should be seen as an attempt by big powers and the Jewish State
to coerce a small country into their sphere of influence. Thus, Tanzanians instead of condemning Iran as proposed by some Premium members of our Forum, we should standby the side of the Iranian people who are striving to free themselves from the shackles of Jewish and American domination and subjugation.


Strange enough, all previous elections in ZNZ were marred by accusations of vote rigging and other irregularities and the SMZ government resorted to more ruthless methods to contain the opposition than presently used by the Iranian authorities.
As a result, more than 70 people were killed in ZNZ in 2001 and we as a country
never condemned these killings which were perpetrated by our own police force.
To say something now against the Iranian people as proposed by these Jewish agents in our Forum amounts to double standard.
How dare today we Tanzanians want to make such big noise because of 5 people killed in Iran while in our own courtyard in 2001 more than 70 people were killed and we remained silent and never uttered a single word????? Is this not self-defeating or is it because there was no JF in 2001?????
Let the situation in Iran escalates, but our government should not interfere. We already have a lot of problems of our own in ZNZ and on Mainland! Let’s concentrate all of our efforts into our war against MAFISADIS and not against Iran!!!!
If we cannot interfere in ZNZ why should we interfere in Iran? We as Tanzanians should not be at the service of Americans and Israel. You don’t need to be a political pundit from Harvard to understand that the skirmishes that are taking place from time to time in the streets of Iran today are being orchestrated, spearheaded and masterminded by the Jewish State in collaboration with the Americans. Therefore, how can we as Tanzanians side ourselves with the Jews and the Americans?
Our silence as in 2001 over ZNZ should be construed as an endorsement of what a legitimate government in Iran is doing and they should have our fullest support. To send any strong and unambiguous message to the Iranian leaders that the Tanzanian people strongly oppose the tactics of fear targeted against civilians who are demonstrating in a political setting will only serve to show how stupid we Tanzanians are. If we did not send a similar message to ZNZ in 2001 how can we have the morale to do so now to the Iranian people?
We know quite well that some of us Tanzanians are worried of our country’s affiliation with Iran – an Islamic country. But, let’s re-read our History. We have always since time immemorial and since the time of Mwalimu stood up with those being oppressed and therefore to stand up now with the people of Iran should be our natural reaction, because the Iranian people with all the riches that they possess are being economically subdued by the West and are not allowed to build their country as they see it fit.

Lampart,

Please talk for yourself.

JF is not one person, it is a group of people including yourself. There is no way someone can use all of these people located in different countries to run a Jewish propaganda. What is the benefit?

If you expect JF to think in the same level and same direction then it won't be the home of great thinkers. Great thinkers think independently and contribute freely!!

 

[Mdau]

Mjj alikuwepo hata kwenye Entebbe Raid,nilimuona....teh teh..

 

[Zawadi Ngoda]

JF BEING USED BY JEWS TO CONDEMN IRAN!!!

• Tanzania has nothing to do with Iran’s internal affairs
• Our cooperation is based on mutual respect
• Let’s not interfere in Iran’s internal affairs if we cannot interfere in ZNZ’s

Some well-intentioned Premium members of this Forum seated leisurely in their Vijijis in Butiama are unknowingly and unwittingly being used by the western and Jewish propaganda machines to confuse the ordinary members of this Forum.
These Premium members amid our midst are trying to sway the opinion of Tanzanians to be in favour of the Jewish and US against our recent stand to join hands with our brothers and sisters in Iran who are struggling to extricate themselves from the quagmire of western and Jewish influence.
We, Tanzanians as a country cannot and should not interfere in the internal affairs of
another brotherly country for the benefit of the Americans and for the
benefit of the Jewish people who have for more than 50 years now subjected the Palestinian people into a sanguinary suppression, slavery and misery – unseen in any past colonial rule in this planet.

The current standoff between Iran and the Western powers has nothing to do with Tanzanians and should be seen as an attempt by big powers and the Jewish State
to coerce a small country into their sphere of influence. Thus, Tanzanians instead of condemning Iran as proposed by some Premium members of our Forum, we should standby the side of the Iranian people who are striving to free themselves from the shackles of Jewish and American domination and subjugation.


Strange enough, all previous elections in ZNZ were marred by accusations of vote rigging and other irregularities and the SMZ government resorted to more ruthless methods to contain the opposition than presently used by the Iranian authorities.
As a result, more than 70 people were killed in ZNZ in 2001 and we as a country
never condemned these killings which were perpetrated by our own police force.
To say something now against the Iranian people as proposed by these Jewish agents in our Forum amounts to double standard.
How dare today we Tanzanians want to make such big noise because of 5 people killed in Iran while in our own courtyard in 2001 more than 70 people were killed and we remained silent and never uttered a single word????? Is this not self-defeating or is it because there was no JF in 2001?????
Let the situation in Iran escalates, but our government should not interfere. We already have a lot of problems of our own in ZNZ and on Mainland! Let’s concentrate all of our efforts into our war against MAFISADIS and not against Iran!!!!
If we cannot interfere in ZNZ why should we interfere in Iran? We as Tanzanians should not be at the service of Americans and Israel. You don’t need to be a political pundit from Harvard to understand that the skirmishes that are taking place from time to time in the streets of Iran today are being orchestrated, spearheaded and masterminded by the Jewish State in collaboration with the Americans. Therefore, how can we as Tanzanians side ourselves with the Jews and the Americans?
Our silence as in 2001 over ZNZ should be construed as an endorsement of what a legitimate government in Iran is doing and they should have our fullest support. To send any strong and unambiguous message to the Iranian leaders that the Tanzanian people strongly oppose the tactics of fear targeted against civilians who are demonstrating in a political setting will only serve to show how stupid we Tanzanians are. If we did not send a similar message to ZNZ in 2001 how can we have the morale to do so now to the Iranian people?
We know quite well that some of us Tanzanians are worried of our country’s affiliation with Iran – an Islamic country. But, let’s re-read our History. We have always since time immemorial and since the time of Mwalimu stood up with those being oppressed and therefore to stand up now with the people of Iran should be our natural reaction, because the Iranian people with all the riches that they possess are being economically subdued by the West and are not allowed to build their country as they see it fit.

Jamani hatari hii, hatari hii. Hao ni mazimwi wawili ni vyema sisi tukae kama hatuwaoni. Kuwa upande wa yeyote kumpinga mwingine ni kuhatarisha usalama wetu.

Hii ni hataRI KWELI KWELI SI MCHEZO. Ninalaani kitendo hicho.

 

[Ngida1]

Jamani hatari hii, hatari hii. Hao ni mazimwi wawili ni vyema sisi tukae kama hatuwaoni. Kuwa upande wa yeyote kumpinga mwingine ni kuhatarisha usalama wetu.

Hii ni hataRI KWELI KWELI SI MCHEZO. Ninalaani kitendo hicho.

Dear Nd. Zawadi Ngoda,
Hii ni hatari kweli na sote tumeiona na ndio maana Wagagagigikoko wamelaani sana kitendo hicho kwa nguvu zao zote!

 

[Ibrah]

Nikikuuliza mchango wa Iran ni upi ktk nchi yetu ?

Kusupport Islam fanatics in Tanzania ili kuifanya Tanzania iwe nchi ya Ki-Islamu.

 

[Lole Gwakisa]

JF BEING USED BY JEWS TO CONDEMN IRAN!!!

• Tanzania has nothing to do with Iran’s internal affairs
• Our cooperation is based on mutual respect
• Let’s not interfere in Iran’s internal affairs if we cannot interfere in ZNZ’s

I am at loss to understand your analogy of comparing Iran to Zanzibar.
You make a wrong hypothesis, a wrong analysis and hence a complitely uncalled for conclusion!!!!

 

[Dingswayo]

I have always been saying here that some people are using the pretext of religion in this forum to advance Israeli's interests.

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

Wakati tukiilaumu serikali kwa kuua watu 70 (?) Zanzibar tusiache kuwalaumu wale waliomchinja askari Pemba wakati huo huo! Au kwa vile alikuwa ni askari basi maisha yake hayana thamani?

Ni wajibu wetu kukemea mauaji yeyote yanayofanywa dhidi ya raia mahali popote duniani, iwe Iran, Israel, Zimbabwe n.k. Na kama serikali yetu inafanya vitendo kama hivyo ( sio lazima iwe Zanzibar peke yake) ni wajibu wetu kuikemea vile vile.

Amandla........

 

[Lampart]

............Na kama serikali yetu inafanya vitendo kama hivyo ( sio lazima iwe Zanzibar peke yake) ni wajibu wetu kuikemea vile vile.
Amandla........

Dear Nd. Amandla,
There is no question of.....NA kama..... hapo juu. Kutumia maneno hayo (Na kama) inaonesha kuwa you are not sure and this sends a cold shivering down our spines. Serikali yetu tayari inafanya vitendo kama hivyo and therefore we should condemn it right away!
Kuieleza serikali yetu ilaani mauaji ya Iran kama walivyoandika wengine (sio wewe) wakati serikali yenyewe inafanya hivyo hivyo hapa nyumbani ni kufumbia macho na kusahau mauaji ya hapa kwetu nchini. In fact, tutakuwa tunaiambia serikali yetu kuwa: We can tolerate the killings of own brethren, but, we cannot tolerate the killings of some foreign nationals by their own despotic governments!

 

[Fundi Mchundo]

Dear Nd. Amandla,
There is no question of.....NA kama..... hapo juu. Kutumia maneno hayo (Na kama) inaonesha kuwa you are not sure and this sends a cold shivering down our spines. Serikali yetu tayari inafanya vitendo kama hivyo and therefore we should condemn it right away!
Kuieleza serikali yetu ilaani mauaji ya Iran kama walivyoandika wengine (sio wewe) wakati serikali yenyewe inafanya hivyo hivyo hapa nyumbani ni kufumbia macho na kusahau mauaji ya hapa kwetu nchini. In fact, tutakuwa tunaiambia serikali yetu kuwa: We can tolerate the killings of own brethren, but, we cannot tolerate the killings of some foreign nationals by their own despotic governments!

Mimi nadhani hapa tunachanganya mambo. Ni kweli kuwa kuna mauaji yamefanyika na watendaji wa serikali ya Tanzania lakini hii haimaanishi kuwa kila wakati haya yanafanyika kwa maagizo yake. Nchi yetu ina mapungufu yake lakini si oppressive kama hizo nchi ambazo mnataka kufananisha nazo. Kuna mahali wame/overreact? Bila shaka. Kama vile Marekani na nchi za magharibi zinavyo-over react wanapopambana na maandamano wanayohofia yanaweza kuleta maafa. Seattle, Rome, Ohio University kote ni sites ambamo wananchi wamepoteza maisha yao wakitaka kuonyesha tofauti zao na serikali zilizo madarakana. Nchi kama Iran, Israel ( Gaza na West Bank), Zimbabwe, Guinea, Central Africa Republic (wakati wa Bokassa), Equatorial Guinea n.k. ziko kwenye ligi ya pekee yao. Hizi ni tawala ambazo systematically hazisiti kutumia nguvu ya ziada dhidi ya wale wanaowapinga. Tanzania haimo katika ligi hiyo. Kuna wakati tumekaribia mno kuingia lakini bado hatujaingia. Ili kuhakikisha kuwa hatuingii basi ni wajibu wetu kukemea maovu yote yanayofanywa na watendaji wake(bila kujali kama walipata za serikali kufanya hivyo) mahali popote na katika mazingira yeyote ( kisiasa, kuhamisha wanachi wake, kupambana na wafugaji n.k.). Lakini wakati tunaikemea serikali ni lazima tukemee vitendo vya vyombo vingine (vyama vya siasa, viongozi wa dini,viongozi wa makabila n.k) ambao wanafanya matendo ambayo yanaweza kuleta mtafaruku na umwagaji wa damu. Wakati sehemu za kuabudu zinageuzwa viwanja vya vita na waumini kuhifadhi na kutumia silaha katika mapambano yao; vyama vya siasa vikitishia kuingia mwituni na kumwaga damu; viongozi wetu wakitumia lugha za kichochezi dhidi ya sehemu ya jamii n.k. ni wajibu wetu kukemea. Ndio maana nasema tunapokemea mauaji yaliyotokea Pemba, tusiishie tu kuilaumu serikali bali wale ambao walihamasisha wananchi wao wabebe silaha na hatimaye kumchinja mtendaji wa serikali. Tunapokemea mauaji ya Mwembechai ni lazima tukemee wale viongozi waliochochea waumini wao wabebe silaha (bakora ni silaha) dhidi ya wenzao. Na wakati tukifanya hivi ni lazima tudai serikali yetu ionyeshe kuchukizwa kwake na vitendo vya uonevu duniani kwa kukemea serikali yeyote ambayo inafanya vitendo hivyo. Ni rahisi sana kulaani Israel na Iran lakini kupata kigugumizi pale ambapo jirani zetu wanafanya maovu yanayofanana. Tumeshuhudia Zimbabwe, Kenya, Afrika ya Kusini n.k. Kukaa kimya kwa sababu sisi wenyewe hatuko perfect hakusaidii kitu. Uovu ni uovu ni uovu. Damu ya m-iran, m-palestina ina thamani sawa na damu ya m-jaluo,m-ndebele, m-kurya na m-pemba!

Amandla.......

 

[Sideeq]

Jews state sio hatari but Iran state ni hatari, ndomaana wanakatalia kuwa na nyuklia sababu wanaweza kutumia kinyume na taratibu.

Ni nani anayehukumu kuwa Jews si hatari?
Dr.Barubaru ni mtaalamu aliyebobea katika fani ya Siasa na Historia.
Dr,Barubaru wape historia ya Abdullah Bin Saba (Myahudi) aliyedai kusilimu ili awafitinishe waislamu ndani yao (huyo ndiye mwanzilishi wa Shia).
Dr.Barubaru analijuwa hili zaidi, ngoja nimuachie aanze kutoa dozi zake hapa.