Islam and politics in Tanzania

[mzanganyika]

Good job October,

No wonder wanakimbilia kuuwa wenzao kule Iraq kila siku. What a corrupt religion.

Iraq waliuliwa wangapi na Rwanda walichinjwa wangapi?

Tena wakati wakichinjana Rwanda, Bill Clinton alikuwa bize na Monica badala ya kwenda kuokoa 'ndugu zake in faith'!!!

 

[mzanganyika]

Hakuna justification yoyote kisayansi ya mzee mzima kufanya tendo la ndoa na mtoto wa miaka 9. Kama jamii za kiislam zinakubaliana na hili basi no wonder hii dini imejaa maruhani na laana kibao toka kwa muumba.

Huko ni kuishiwa hoja na kujenga your own conclusion. Kutozingatia facts ni dalili ya udhaifu.

You have to know that mke wake alifikia age of 'biological maturity' kaam kweli unataka 'sayansi' kabla ya hicho ambacho wewe unaita rape. Hilo huzingatii na badala yake unataka kuamini unavyotaka wewe. Kwa nini unajidanganya mwenyewe.

Wahoji waumini kwa yale wanayoyaamini kwa mijibu wa mafundisho yao , ukiwahoji kwa unayoamini wewe amabayo yana contradict unaowahoji they will not take you seriously.

katika niliyosema mimi, kuna hata moja amabalo unaweza kusema si kweli?

 

[mzanganyika]

Bwana 'Solomon david', je unatambua kwamba ndani ya Biblia mtume David 'anasimuliwa' kama ni mtume aliyekuwa 'anatafuna wake za watu'- unaweza kunisaidia kufahamu ni kipi kilichokuvutia kutumia jina hilo la mtafuna wake za watu?

 

[Chimunguru]

Ah jamani UDINI HUU utawafikisha wapi ndugu zanguni, kwenye vita vya namna hii huwa hakuna mshindi shauri yenu, ila sitaki mnigombanishe na rafiki zangu wa kweli wa KIISLAM ambao tumekua tukicheza wote tumesoma shule wote na tunafanya kazi wote hakuna hata siku moja DINI ZETU zilitugombanisha wala kuleta tofauti baina yetu. katika maisha yangu sijawahi mtenga mtu eti sababu yeye ni dini tofauti na mimi JAMANI WA TANZANIA MNAKUMBUKA KULE SERBIA mambo yalivyokuwa? tafadhali MSITULETEE UDINI

 

[mzanganyika]

Yes, it true that most of the buildings at Kariakoo are owned by Muslims and that is why most of them are built below standard. .

Can you substantiate that 'most' are built below standard? Did you know that most of those buildings were built on the watch of Ministers responsible for buildings who were not Muslims?

Do some analysis ili mchawi ajulikane.

 

[October]

Bwana 'Solomon david', je unatambua kwamba ndani ya Biblia mtume David 'anasimuliwa' kama ni mtume aliyekuwa 'anatafuna wake za watu'- unaweza kunisaidia kufahamu ni kipi kilichokuvutia kutumia jina hilo la mtafuna wake za watu?

Hakuna anaebisha, Kweli Daudi alifanya kosa akatafuna mke wa Uria na kumuua mume wake na hili kosa alilofanya Mungu alikasirika na akamwadhibu kwa kuua mtoto aliezaliwa kutokana na ule ufuka na adhabu nyingine pia. Je Unakubali luwa Mheshimiwa wenu alifanya kosa kwa kutafuna Kinda? au Unamtetea tu na wakati iko dhahiri kabisa kwamba kutafuna kinda sio sahihi?????

 

[mzanganyika]

Ah jamani UDINI HUU utawafikisha wapi ndugu zanguni, kwenye vita vya namna hii huwa hakuna mshindi shauri yenu, ila sitaki mnigombanishe na rafiki zangu wa kweli wa KIISLAM ambao tumekua tukicheza wote tumesoma shule wote na tunafanya kazi wote hakuna hata siku moja DINI ZETU zilitugombanisha wala kuleta tofauti baina yetu. katika maisha yangu sijawahi mtenga mtu eti sababu yeye ni dini tofauti na mimi JAMANI WA TANZANIA MNAKUMBUKA KULE SERBIA mambo yalivyokuwa? tafadhali MSITULETEE UDINI

hakuna vita, wenye facts wanaleta facts zao na wenye uzishi wanaleta uzushi wao then tunakwenda kujenga nchi kwa pamoja.

Ukweli lazima usemwe, asiyeweza ukweli hapaswi kujadili lolote.

 

[mzanganyika]

Hakuna anaebisha, Kweli Daudi alifanya kosa akatafuna mke wa Uria na kumuua mume wake na hili kosa alilofanya Mungu alikasirika na akamwadhibu kwa kuua mtoto aliezaliwa kutokana na ule ufuka na adhabu nyingine pia. Je Unakubali luwa Mheshimiwa wenu alifanya kosa kwa kutafuna Kinda? au Unamtetea tu na wakati iko dhahiri kabisa kwamba kutafuna kinda sio sahihi?????

Nimeshasema alifikisha 'age of maturity' sasa sielewi kwa nini unadai 'kinda'.

Kwa hiyo unaamini Mungu anaweza kuteua 'fisadi wa ngono' kuwa nabii wake? Huyo Mungu hana kiwango cha mteule?

 

[mzanganyika]

Hakuna anaebisha, Kweli Daudi alifanya kosa akatafuna mke wa Uria na kumuua mume wake na hili kosa alilofanya Mungu alikasirika na akamwadhibu kwa kuua mtoto aliezaliwa kutokana na ule ufuka na adhabu nyingine pia. Je Unakubali luwa Mheshimiwa wenu alifanya kosa kwa kutafuna Kinda? au Unamtetea tu na wakati iko dhahiri kabisa kwamba kutafuna kinda sio sahihi?????

Kiongozi akiteua mtu anayejulikana kuwa ni corrupt na yeye anahesabika ni corrupt, je Mungu akiteua mtu 'mla wake za watu' na yeye Mwenyewe tumuelewe vipi?

 

[Ngalikihinja]

Na bado hujaongelea rape iliyoanzishwa na muhamad kwa kuoa kibinti cha miaka 9

Alianza nacho kikiwa na miaka 6......... si mchezo

 

[Kabonde]

Huko ni kuishiwa hoja na kujenga your own conclusion. Kutozingatia facts ni dalili ya udhaifu.

You have to know that mke wake alifikia age of 'biological maturity' kaam kweli unataka 'sayansi' kabla ya hicho ambacho wewe unaita rape. Hilo huzingatii na badala yake unataka kuamini unavyotaka wewe. Kwa nini unajidanganya mwenyewe.

Mzanganyika taratibu miaka 9 unathubutu kusema alifikia age ya biological maturity tafadhali ebu tafuta utetezi mwingine waombe kina xpaster wakusaidie kukujibia hoja.muhamad alifanya fauli mbaya sana tena alianza kumtamani kitoto kikiwana na umri wa miaka 6 tu.

Niko maeneo ya shule ya msingi sanawari natazama vitoto vya darasa la kwanza vina umri kati ya miaka 6 na 7 yaani nakosa maneno ya kuandika jinsi nilivyochukia.Nashangaa sana waumini wa hii dini ya waarabu hawataki kujifunza kwamba muhamed hakuwa mtu wa mwenyezi wala mwenyezi mungu hawezi kukubali kumtuma mtu anayedaka watoto wadogo wa miaka 9.

 

[Kabonde]

Alianza nacho kikiwa na miaka 6......... si mchezo

Tujaribu kufanya tafakari kidogo.Muhamed alianza kukitongoza kikinda cha watu.

Muhamed. Baba yuko nitakununulia pipi.
Kinda.ninunulie sasa hivi.
Muhamed. Njoo huku (anamvutia kinda kichocho.....)
Kinda.Nashindwa kuandika jinsi kinda alivyolalamika.

 

[Ngalikihinja]

Kila jamii ina umri wake wa age of maturity.

Hivi we mzanganyika unataka kuniambia kuwa maturity age ya jamii ya aliyokuwa akiishi mtume Muhamad S.W.A ni miaka 9..???? Hivi wakati huo mtume Muhamad S.W.A alikuwa na miaka mingapi.........????

 

[mzanganyika]

Huko ni kuishiwa hoja na kujenga your own conclusion. Kutozingatia facts ni dalili ya udhaifu.

You have to know that mke wake alifikia age of 'biological maturity' kaam kweli unataka 'sayansi' kabla ya hicho ambacho wewe unaita rape. Hilo huzingatii na badala yake unataka kuamini unavyotaka wewe. Kwa nini unajidanganya mwenyewe.

Mzanganyika taratibu miaka 9 unathubutu kusema alifikia age ya biological maturity tafadhali ebu tafuta utetezi mwingine waombe kina xpaster wakusaidie kukujibia hoja.muhamad alifanya fauli mbaya sana tena alianza kumtamani kitoto kikiwana na umri wa miaka 6 tu.

Niko maeneo ya shule ya msingi sanawari natazama vitoto vya darasa la kwanza vina umri kati ya miaka 6 na 7 yaani nakosa maneno ya kuandika jinsi nilivyochukia.Nashangaa sana waumini wa hii dini ya waarabu hawataki kujifunza kwamba muhamed hakuwa mtu wa mwenyezi wala mwenyezi mungu hawezi kukubali kumtuma mtu anayedaka watoto wadogo wa miaka 9.

Uhusiano wa 'ndani' haukuanza mpaka alipofikia umri wa biological maturity. hayo ndio mafundisho rasmi, wahoji waumini kwa mafundisho yao rasmi sio kulazimisha kudai kwamba watu wanaamini yale ambayo hawayaamini na hayapo katika mafundisho yao kama madai ya miaka 6 nk.

Kwa nini unadhani Kitabu kilichipotia kwa Muhammad (PBUH) hakibadilishwi lakini cha Paulo hubadilishwa na kitaendelea kubadilishwa? Nipe intelligent answer.

Katika kujua nani mkweli kati ya St. Paulo na Muhammad (PBUH), je unatambua kwamba waandishi wengi wa Biblia hawajulikani? Mfano mwandishi wa Hebrews hajulikani na hiyo ni rasmi kabisa, waandishi wa baadhi ya vitabu wanasema 'probably, 'maybe', 'possibly' fulani kaandika, sasa kama nabii aliyepokea hata hajulikani vipi ana qualify maandishi yake yaitwe maneno ya Mungu. Unatambua kwamba moja ya tofauti ni kitabu kimoja vs zaidi ya mia moja-Catholics wana 73, wengine 66, Jehovah wana cha kwao, mormoms wanasema vyote corrupt isipokuwa na cha kwao etc.
Kwa nini waislamu pekee hawabishani on kitabu kipi ndio sahihi na wana kimoja tu?

 

[mzanganyika]

Hivi we mzanganyika unataka kuniambia kuwa maturity age ya jamii ya aliyokuwa akiishi mtume Muhamad S.W.A ni miaka 9..???? Hivi wakati huo mtume Muhamad S.W.A alikuwa na miaka mingapi.........????

Kuna kijana wa miaka 15 aliwahi kuongoza jeshi la watu wazima, sio kila jamii unaweza kupata kijana makini wa umri huo.

hata sasa hivi kuna jamii ambazo wasichana hubalee katika mtu wa miaka 9. Usichanganye 'minimum age of consent' kwa mujibu wa man made laws na biological age of maturity.

Ililwtwa hoja ya kisayansi na sayansi ina prove kwamba msichana anaweza kubalee katika umri huo.

labda ulete hoja nyingine nijaribu kuleta majibu, kwa hili la umri wa miaka 6 ama 9 sidhani kama sayansi itaku support.

 

[Ngalikihinja]

Watanzania walivyoamrishwa na Nyerere kupigana na Waganda waliovamia nchi was it an order to have permanent wars with Ugandas just because they were Ugandas?

PLEASE MZANGANYIKA, HAKI, JUNIUS, KANDA, X-PASTER AND ANY OTHER MUSLIM, TELL ME, ARE THE BELOW STATEMENTS TRUE.........?????? Maana nimeuliza mara ya kwanza hakuna aliyesema YES or NO. Msikimbie hoja semeni kama HIZI STATEMENTS ni za kweli au mmesingiziwa........

Sura 9: Verse 29 Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued
Here they are ordered to fight, kill Christians and Jews. It is a command from their GOD, so those who pretend to condemn Osama bin Laden are just Liars, deep down in their hearts they say keep it up Osama. Jizyah in this scripture is a special Tax that is supposed to be leveied on Non Muslim, if they control Nation Quran tells them to tax non Muslim until they submit to Islam, Meaning you will be taxed to poverty. These are the teachings of ´Quran´

Sura 9: Verse 5 Then when the Sacred Months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2:105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Here is another command kill non Muslims wherever you find them, I think this is what inspires Osama and his supporters

Sura 9: Verse 38 O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that when you are asked to march forth in the Cause of Allah (i.e. Jihad) you cling heavily to the earth? Are you pleased with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But little is the enjoyment of the life of this world as compared with the Hereafter.
Here Mohammed or supposedly Allah is surprised to the people who do not want to blow up themselves.

 

[Mwafrika]

Na bado hujaongelea rape iliyoanzishwa na muhamad kwa kuoa kibinti cha miaka 9

Say what ....

Kibinti cha miaka 9? What a rapist

 

[mzanganyika]

Tujaribu kufanya tafakari kidogo.Muhamed alianza kukitongoza kikinda cha watu.

Muhamed. Baba yuko nitakununulia pipi.
Kinda.ninunulie sasa hivi.
Muhamed. Njoo huku (anamvutia kinda kichocho.....)
Kinda.Nashindwa kuandika jinsi kinda alivyolalamika.

Sielewi kwa nini huwezi kuhoji watu kwa yale wanayoamini na you have to resort to hadithi za alinacha!

 

[Mwafrika]

Uhusiano wa 'ndani' haukuanza mpaka alipofikia umri wa biological maturity. hayo ndio mafundisho rasmi, wahoji waumini kwa mafundisho yao rasmi sio kulazimisha kudai kwamba watu wanaamini yale ambayo hawayaamini na hayapo katika mafundisho yao kama madai ya miaka 6 nk.

Uhusiano wa ndani my foot...

Utadhani kama ulikuwepo wakati akirepu na kuharibu kibinti cha watu.
Dini zingine bwana

 

[Mwafrika]

Sielewi kwa nini huwezi kuhoji watu kwa yale wanayoamini na you have to resort to hadithi za alinacha!

Sio hadithi za Alinacha ... huyo Muhamad ni rapist na wewe unamtetea tu hapa kwa sababu zako zisizoeleweka.