Iran shoots down US drone

Sasa hii footage imetengenezwa na wamagharibi wewe unategemea nini halafu mipango mikakati (strategy) ya Urusi na Marekani ni tofauti kabisa. Wamarekani wao ni offensive na wapo kibiashara (sio kama nchi bali watu binasi wanao tengeneza silaha) wakati warusi wao ni defensive. kwahiyo utakuta kwenye jeshi lao (warusi) hawana madege mengi kama wamarekani lakini wana ma-islander ya aina nyingi na wameendela sana katika tesla technology ambapo wanaweza kuharibu mawasiliano ya ndege, guided missiles na hata military satellites kwakutumia elecromagnetic waves.
hiyo source sio biased,angalia episode zote,hakuna upendeleo wowote hapo,labda uamue kukataa tu
generaly warusi wapo nyuma kiteknolojia ukilinganisha na usa,
hivyo vyote ulivotaja hapo walianza kufanya usa,then wakaiga hao warusi ,so warusi bado wapo nyuma ya usa,



kiteknologia warusi wapo nyuma ya
 
Hakuna siku marekani walishawahi kuwa hawana vita,hata hizo siku ambazo uchumi ulikuwa mzuri, bado walikuwa vitani.

Na ndiyo maana unaona kuna wanaosema kuwa kinacho wacost ni matumizi ya serikali tofauti kabisa na defense, muwe mnajuwa jinsi ya kufuatilia haya mambo, analyzing without bias, you need to stand on the "free ground point of view", and then analyse.
 
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's military has shot down a U.S. reconnaissance drone aircraft in eastern Iran and has threatened to respond to the violation of Iranian airspace, a military source told state television Sunday.
"Iran's military has downed an intruding RQ-170 American drone in eastern Iran," Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam state television network quoted the unnamed source as saying.
"The spy drone, which has been downed with little damage, was seized by the Iranian armed forces."
Iran shot down the drone at a time when it is trying to contain foreign reaction to the storming of the British embassy in Tehran Tuesday, shortly after London announced that it would impose sanctions on Iran's central bank in connection with Iran's controversial nuclear enrichment program.
Britain evacuated its diplomatic staff from Iran and expelled Iranian diplomats in London in retaliation, and several other EU members recalled their ambassadors from Tehran.
The attack dragged Iran's relations with Europe to a long-time low.

"The Iranian military's response to the American spy drone's violation of our airspace will not be limited to Iran's borders," the military source said, without elaborating.
The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action against Iran's nuclear facilities if diplomacy fails to resolve the nuclear dispute.

Iran has dismissed reports of possible U.S. or Israeli plans to strike Iran, warning that it would respond to any such assault by attacking U.S. interests in the Gulf and Israel.
Analysts say Tehran could retaliate by launching hit-and-run strikes in the Gulf and by closing the Strait of Hormuz. About 40 percent of all traded oil leaves the Gulf region through the strategic waterway.
Iran said in July it had shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane over the holy city of Qom, near its Fordu nuclear site.

(Additional reporting by Ramin Mostafavi, Writing by Parisa Hafezi; Editing by Tim Pearce)


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Did or did not American's spy drone violated Iran airspace?
 
Did or did not American's spy drone violated Iran airspace?

Ofcourse, tunasubiri kinachofuatia maana wamesema watafanya kitu...Tunasubiri hiyo response...

Iran's military has shot down a U.S. reconnaissance drone aircraft in eastern Iran and has threatened to respond to the violation of Iranian airspace, a military source told state television Sunday.
 
Kubalini tuu au fanyeni h/work kidogo tuu kuhusu American wars,nyingi ndio zinakuwa ni kusambaza capitalism kupanua markets zao lakini nyingi ni for profits,kumbuka hizo trillions za Iraq war zitalipwa na Iraqis bila kusahau windfall of oil contracts worth billions zilizokwenda wallstreets for the next 50 yrs,Iraqis Army litajenjwa na hao Americans na watauziwa kila kitu kuanzia boots mpaka jetfighters,Americans wana control Army na mafuta yote ya Iraq means wana control treasury & defence yote ya Iraq..kwa ufupi Iraq sasa iko owned na Americans na hakuna kitu watafanya atakayepiga kelele atakuwa hana future,hivyo viuchaguzi vya iraq au sijui mjaheedina ni kelele tuu na hawana nguvu yeyote,mbona hamshangai Richmond wamelipwa 100m$ na hakuna umeme na wameenda court na kushinda kesi,mbona hamshangai tuna export almost 3 billions of gold lakini hatupati hata 5% kwenda hazina?sembuse hawa ambao army na finances zao under Americans mnafikiri wanapata nini?...war is a good business for america na ina faida kubwa sana kwao na mnaosema war inaangusha America Economy hamuelewi mnachoongea
 
Tukubali tu hili Taifa la Marekani ni tatizo kuwepo Duniani hapa, ni genge kuu la kishetani ambalo wanadamu wanatakiwa kuliondoa ila sasa tutawaondoaje?!! ni shida sana kwa kweli,,,nadhani sasa Dunia ifanye mpango wa kulifuta hili Taifa la kishetani ili tuwe na amani..

...bora kutawaliwa na hawa shetani wa America,can you imagine taleban with president Osama ndio wangekuwa US,i didnt like Iraq invasion lakini at the end nafikiri Iraqis watakuwa better wthout Saddam,jamaa aliua millions of his own people kwa sababu tuu hawakukubaliana naye,wananchi wake walikuwa under terror kila siku, Iraqis waliingizwa vitani na yule dikteta for almost 20 yrs na utajiri wa nchi ulikuwa ni kwa ajiri ya fantasy zake tuu kuanzia iran war,Kuwait etc walikufa more than 2 million Iraqis na kuharibu trillions...hawa madkteta wa kiarabu au africans bora tuu wasambaratishwe na hawa wazungu na sina huruma yeyote wala uzalendo wa kifala
 
Kubalini tuu au fanyeni h/work kidogo tuu kuhusu American wars,nyingi ndio zinakuwa ni kusambaza capitalism kupanua markets zao lakini nyingi ni for profits,kumbuka hizo trillions za Iraq war zitalipwa na Iraqis bila kusahau windfall of oil contracts worth billions zilizokwenda wallstreets for the next 50 yrs,Iraqis Army litajenjwa na hao Americans na watauziwa kila kitu kuanzia boots mpaka jetfighters,Americans wana control Army na mafuta yote ya Iraq means wana control treasury & defence yote ya Iraq..kwa ufupi Iraq sasa iko owned na Americans na hakuna kitu watafanya atakayepiga kelele atakuwa hana future,hivyo viuchaguzi vya iraq au sijui mjaheedina ni kelele tuu na hawana nguvu yeyote,mbona hamshangai Richmond wamelipwa 100m$ na hakuna umeme na wameenda court na kushinda kesi,mbona hamshangai tuna export almost 3 billions of gold lakini hatupati hata 5% kwenda hazina?sembuse hawa ambao army na finances zao under Americans mnafikiri wanapata nini?...war is a good business for america na ina faida kubwa sana kwao na mnaosema war inaangusha America Economy hamuelewi mnachoongea

Oct 21, 2011
Obama announces full withdrawal from Iraq

By David Jackson, USA TODAY
Updated 2011-10-21 3:34 PM


President Obama, speaking today on Iraq


By Susan Walsh, AP

President Obama confirmed plans today to have all U.S. troops out of Iraq by Jan. 1, formally ending the war that began in the spring of 2003 and has taken more than 4,400 American lives."After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over," Obama said at the White House, adding that most U.S. troops will be "home for the holidays."

Obama noted that he pledged to end the Iraq War during his 2008 presidential campaign
"The coming months will be another season of homecomings," Obama said. "Across America, our servicemen and -women will be reunited with their families. ... This December will be a time to reflect on all that we've been through in this war."

The president spoke in the White House briefing room after holding a secure video conference with Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. Obama said he and the Iraqi leader are in "full agreement about how to move forward."

The U.S. has had a long-standing agreement to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq by the end of this year, but officials from both countries had discussed maintaining a U.S. residual force to train Iraqi forces.

President Obama and Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in 2009.

By Jewel Samad, AFP/Getty Images

But the U.S. eventually balked at maintaining a residual force because Iraq has refused to grant American troops legal immunity in Iraqi courts.Obama praised the U.S. troops for their efforts in Iraq, saying they will leave "with their heads held high, proud of their success, and knowing that the American people stand united in our support for our troops."
He also pledged assistance and "a strong and enduring partnership" with the government in Iraq

"With our diplomats and civilian advisers in the lead, we will help Iraqis strengthen institutions that are just, representative and accountable," Obama said. "We'll build new ties of trade and of commerce, culture and education that unleash the potential of the Iraqi people."

The president also appeared to deliver a warning Iran, which he has accused of helping insurgents in Iraq. "We'll partner with an Iraq that contributes to regional security and peace, just as we insist that other nations respect Iraq's sovereignty," Obama said.
The announcement came a day after the death of former Libya dictator Moammar Gadhafi, bringing that conflict to an end.

The president also noted he is planning to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan, a process hoped to be completed by 2014.
Obama inherited the Iraq and Afghanistan wars from predecessor George W. Bush.
"I would note that the end of war in Iraq reflects a larger transition," Obama said. "The tide of war is receding."
 
Kubalini tuu au fanyeni h/work kidogo tuu kuhusu American wars,nyingi ndio zinakuwa ni kusambaza capitalism kupanua markets zao lakini nyingi ni for profits,kumbuka hizo trillions za Iraq war zitalipwa na Iraqis bila kusahau windfall of oil contracts worth billions zilizokwenda wallstreets for the next 50 yrs,Iraqis Army litajenjwa na hao Americans na watauziwa kila kitu kuanzia boots mpaka jetfighters,Americans wana control Army na mafuta yote ya Iraq means wana control treasury & defence yote ya Iraq..kwa ufupi Iraq sasa iko owned na Americans na hakuna kitu watafanya atakayepiga kelele atakuwa hana future,hivyo viuchaguzi vya iraq au sijui mjaheedina ni kelele tuu na hawana nguvu yeyote,mbona hamshangai Richmond wamelipwa 100m$ na hakuna umeme na wameenda court na kushinda kesi,mbona hamshangai tuna export almost 3 billions of gold lakini hatupati hata 5% kwenda hazina?sembuse hawa ambao army na finances zao under Americans mnafikiri wanapata nini?...war is a good business for america na ina faida kubwa sana kwao na mnaosema war inaangusha America Economy hamuelewi mnachoongea

Sasa mbona mafuta hayashuki bei kama MArekani inamiliki Iraq?
 
Kubalini tuu au fanyeni h/work kidogo tuu kuhusu American wars,nyingi ndio zinakuwa ni kusambaza capitalism kupanua markets zao lakini nyingi ni for profits,kumbuka hizo trillions za Iraq war zitalipwa na Iraqis bila kusahau windfall of oil contracts worth billions zilizokwenda wallstreets for the next 50 yrs,Iraqis Army litajenjwa na hao Americans na watauziwa kila kitu kuanzia boots mpaka jetfighters,Americans wana control Army na mafuta yote ya Iraq means wana control treasury & defence yote ya Iraq..kwa ufupi Iraq sasa iko owned na Americans na hakuna kitu watafanya atakayepiga kelele atakuwa hana future,hivyo viuchaguzi vya iraq au sijui mjaheedina ni kelele tuu na hawana nguvu yeyote,mbona hamshangai Richmond wamelipwa 100m$ na hakuna umeme na wameenda court na kushinda kesi,mbona hamshangai tuna export almost 3 billions of gold lakini hatupati hata 5% kwenda hazina?sembuse hawa ambao army na finances zao under Americans mnafikiri wanapata nini?...war is a good business for america na ina faida kubwa sana kwao na mnaosema war inaangusha America Economy hamuelewi mnachoongea


Utakuwa na ownership ya nchi kivipi huku wenye nchi wanakufukuza!? Au utakuwa na ownership kupitia remote control!?
 
Utakuwa na ownership ya nchi kivipi huku wenye nchi wanakufukuza!? Au utakuwa na ownership kupitia remote control!?

.....America wana ubalozi Iraq mkubwa kuliko Vatican,why? America hawahitaji physical presence to own u,kuna kitu kinaitwa contracts & influence,na ujue zile billions of oil barrel sasa zinamilikiwa na corporate America,iraq army is all America kila kitu kuanzia training...huna idea unafikiri wale mjahidina wa fallujah kumbe ni kelele tuu.
 
Utakuwa na ownership ya nchi kivipi huku wenye nchi wanakufukuza!? Au utakuwa na ownership kupitia remote control!?

"Give me control of a Nations money and i care not who makes its laws"-Rothschild
 
"Give me control of a Nations money and i care not who makes its laws"-Rothschild

Yeah! The control of a nation by remote control!!!!!...unafikiri wanapenda kuondoka!?
 
Yeah! The control of a nation by remote control!!!!!...unafikiri wanapenda kuondoka!?

Unakumbuka kitu cha kwanza baada ya kuanguka Saddam?....."OIL LAW" na technology sasa inaruhusu kutoweka big military ndani ya Iraq,unajua kitu kinaitwa Aircraft carrier?

...The Iraqi government faces a December deadline, imposed by the world's wealthiest countries, to complete its final oil law. Industry analysts expect that the result will be a radical departure from the laws governing the country's oil-rich neighbors, giving foreign multinationals a much higher rate of return than with other major oil producers and locking in their control over what George Bush called Iraq's "patrimony" for decades, regardless of what kind of policies future elected governments might want to pursue.


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Unakumbuka kitu cha kwanza baada ya kuanguka Saddam?....."OIL LAW" na technology sasa inaruhusu kutoweka big military ndani ya Iraq,unajua kitu kinaitwa Aircraft carrier?

...The Iraqi government faces a December deadline, imposed by the world's wealthiest countries, to complete its final oil law. Industry analysts expect that the result will be a radical departure from the laws governing the country's oil-rich neighbors, giving foreign multinationals a much higher rate of return than with other major oil producers and locking in their control over what George Bush called Iraq's "patrimony" for decades, regardless of what kind of policies future elected governments might want to pursue.


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....Wenye nchi yao machale yamewacheza ndio maana watu wakatolewa mkuku bila kupenda. Kulikuwa na muda chungu nzima wa kupitisha hiyo OIL LAW unadhani kwa nini hawajaipitisha muda wote huo hadi deadline inapiga hodi? Unadhani wataipitisha kabla ya December kuisha!? Akili mukichwa Mkuu...Ngoja tusubiri kuona kama itapitishwa.
 



....Wenye nchi yao machale yamewacheza ndio maana watu wakatolewa mkuku bila kupenda. Kulikuwa na muda chungu nzima wa kupitisha hiyo OIL LAW unadhani kwa nini hawajaipitisha muda wote huo hadi deadline inapiga hodi? Unadhani wataipitisha kabla ya December kuisha!? Akili mukichwa Mkuu...Ngoja tusubiri kuona kama itapitishwa.

...unaongea nini wewe? hiyo sasa ni LAW OF THE LAND na ilipitishwa 2006,hiyo quote niliyokupa ni ya 2006:biggrin::biggrin:!!!!
 
...unaongea nini wewe? hiyo sasa ni LAW OF THE LAND na ilipitishwa 2006,hiyo quote niliyokupa ni ya 2006:biggrin::biggrin:!!!!

Marekani wamejenga kituo kikubwa sana cha jeshi Iraq kwa kudhani wangekuwepo pale milele, lakini jamaa machale yamewacheza na kuwatoa mkuku. Usidhani kuitia nchi mfukoni ni rahisi kihivyo!!!! Ujue wamejitahidi sana kubadilisha msimamo wa nchi ili waendelee kuwepo kwa miaka chungu nzima ijayo lakini jamaa wakaweka ngumu sasa wanafungasha ikifika January 1, 2012 wote wanatakiwa wameshaondoka kule....labda watatumia remote control kuweza kufanya yale wayatakayo.
 
U.S. Pullout May Leave Iraq Struggling as Iran Benefits

October 23, 2011, 11:20 AM EDT

By Nicole Gaouette
(Updates with Clinton, McCain comment from 15th paragraph.)
Oct. 23 (Bloomberg) -- The end of the long American war in Iraq will begin the test of what that effort has produced.
After almost nine years, $800 billion and almost 5,000 U.S. dead, President Barack Obama announced last week that the 39,000 remaining troops will be home for the holidays, "heads held high, proud of their success."

They will leave behind a U.S. presence in the form of the world's largest embassy, without a large military force's protection, intelligence, supply chain and transportation. Diplomats will encourage peace and development in a largely Shiite Muslim Iraq that is divided by ethnic and religious tensions and sits on the fault line between Persian Shiite Iran and the Sunni Arab world.

"This has profound implications," said Mohsen Milani, chairman of the government and international relations department at the University of South Florida in Tampa, in a telephone interview. "It will intensify the competition for power inside Iraq, leave the Iraqi Shiites more dependent on Iran and the Sunnis on Saudi Arabia and leave the Kurds as orphans who probably will continue to align themselves with the Shiites."

Gift to Iran
The U.S. pullout is "an unprecedented strategic gift to the Islamic Republic of Iran," said Milani.
Anthony Cordesman, an analyst at Washington's Center for Strategic and International Studies, said Iraqi forces may not be ready to provide security and violence will likely rise. U.S. diplomats in Iraq face unprecedented demands. Iran, as a result, stands to gain.
"The reality is that this is not success," Cordesman said in a telephone interview. "It certainly isn't a drastic failure, but we are now facing a major power vacuum in Iraq and dealing with a power vacuum of this magnitude is a very serious matter."

Republican critics such as California Representative Buck McKeon said that leaving now will make it harder for the Iraqis to stabilize their country.

U.S. troop levels in Iraq hit 90,000 in March 2003 with the invasion and increased to 148,000 that year, according to U.S. Central Command figures. The U.S. deployment peaked at 166,300 in October 2007, during the troop surge to curb the outbreak of violence in largely Sunni Muslim Anbar Province. The level is currently about 39,000, according to the Pentagon.

Iraq War Ended
"In Iraq, we've succeeded in our strategy to end the war," President Barack Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address.

The U.S. has "invested too little in the greatest source of our national strength -- our own people," Obama said. There must be renewed focus on the economy, he said, urging Congress to pass his $447 billion jobs proposal.

The administration proposed leaving a residual force of 3,000 troops in Iraq, if the Iraqi government were willing to extend them immunity from prosecution.
Kenneth Pollack, a director of the Brookings Institution's Saban Center for Middle East Policy, said that number would have been too small to accomplish anything.

‘Ferocious' Opposition
Iraqi hostility to the U.S. presence and "ferocious Iranian opposition" to it were all factors in the decision to pull all troops out, Pollack wrote in an analysis of the president's announcement.

Obama said that talks on training and equipping Iraqi forces will continue, and his announcement doesn't preclude the possibility that some American troops in Iraq might still be kept or return, especially if ethnic violence increases or Iran makes aggressive moves.
"No one should miscalculate our commitment to Iraq, most particularly Iran," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said today on ABC's "This Week" program. "We're not going to have bases in Iraq, but we have bases elsewhere."

The U.S. withdrawal offers Iran an opportunity to form "a link to Iraq, Syria and Lebanon," Cordesman said, increasing the possibility of a regional clash "at a time when we lack the budget to deal with a serious regional crisis."

Ahmadinejad Offers Training
In an interview on CNN, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was asked if his government will help train the Iraqi army.
"I think we should -- we should have done it sooner, maybe seven or eight years ago, and they would avoid killing so many Iraqi people or Americans, as well," Ahmadinejad told CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" program. He said Iran would wait for the decision of the Iraqi government about training military personnel.

Ahmadinejad also said on CNN that "we have these ties in faith and many of our religious clerics are from Iraq and many Iraqis are Iranian. And we have people in seminary schools from both sides."
"This is a special relationship and I think it is very unique in the world," the Iranian leader said on CNN.
The U.S. blames Iran's elite Quds Force for training and equipping Shiite militia groups in Iraq, said David Newton, a former U.S. ambassador to Iraq from 1984 to 1988. It also has introduced anti-tank weapons into the country, Newton said in a telephone interview.
Iranian Victory

The U.S. withdrawal "is viewed in the region as a victory for the Iranians," Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican and ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, said today on ABC's "This Week" program. "I'm very, very concerned about increased Iranian influence in Iraq."

Administration officials said that reviews over the last seven to eight months have found that Iraqi security forces are ready to take on that challenge.
"One assessment after another about the Iraqi security forces came back saying these guys are ready, these guys are capable, these guys are proven," Deputy National Security Adviser Denis McDonough said Oct. 21.
Newton said that, when the U.S. troops leave, they will take with them tools and resources that had been helpful to the Iraqi forces, including intelligence collection capabilities and equipment such as helicopter gunships.

"The Iraqis do have some special forces, but they've got a way to go," Newton said, "Without the U.S. backup, in terms of intel collection, coordination, I think this will be pretty challenging for them."
Those special forces will be overseen by a divided government without a functioning legislature or officials manning high-level posts, including that of defense minister.
 
Downed drone may belong to US: NATO

WASHINGTON / TEHRAN
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An unmanned US drone flies over Kandahar Air Field in this file photo. Iran’s military says it shot down the US drone as NATO stated it may belong to the US. AP photo


A drone reportedly shot down Dec. 4 by Iran may belong to the United States, NATO has said even as a U.S. official said Washington had no indication a drone had crashed in the Islamic republic.

The NATO-led military force in Afghanistan said the drone “may” belong to the U.S. “The UAV [unmanned aerial vehicle] to which the Iranians are referring may be a U.S. unarmed reconnaissance aircraft that had been flying a mission over western Afghanistan late last week,” the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said, Reuters reported. “The operators of the UAV lost control of the aircraft and have been working to determine its status,” it added.

Washington, however, discounted the possibility. “There is absolutely no indication, up to this point, that Iranians shot down this drone,” the U.S. official said on condition of anonymity.

In Tehran, state television quoted a military source as saying Iran’s military had shot down the U.S. reconnaissance drone aircraft in eastern Iran.

Iran’s military said it shot down the U.S. army drone inside its territory near the Afghan and Pakistani borders Dec. 4, and threatened to retaliate for the violation of its airspace. Quoting a military source from within Iran’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, Iran’s Al-Alam Arabic language satellite channel said late Dec. 4 that a RQ-170 unmanned aerial vehicle was shot down “a few hours ago,” Agence France-Presse reported.

The Fars news agency, which has close ties to the Revolutionary Guards responsible for Iran’s air defense and ballistic missile systems, said the drone had made an incursion into Iran’s eastern airspace.December/05/2011

EUROPE - Downed drone may belong to US: NATO
 
This will be an intelligence boon to China, Iran and Russia.
 
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