Charlie Sheen reveals he is HIV Positive

[Iconoclastes]

This is a public forum I can't come here and push information down peoples throats that is why I use 'think' and 'believe' quite often when I post.

No probs, I can handle any medical argument so please be my guest, I am deeply knowledgable in medicine and human body autonomy.

By the way, when did you inject yourself HIV infected blood, where is your negative result certificate.. I want to make famous! haha

As I see it, the best way to settle this argument is to get you to visit my lab. Maybe be that will be quicker than wasting time on long posts.

So, tell me where are you?

It's good to have the real proffessionals here, not some masquaraders like Deception. Look at the nonsense I dont know from where he has regurgitated above as ''proofs'' for hiv's non-existence.
I hope u will have to inject him with the blood certified to contain the virus to drive the facts into his head, that is if he will be brave enuff to take your offer to play the lab-rat.

 

[Elungata]

Ukimwi haupo ni uzushi tu

 

[Camp Gilgal]

Deception

Aisee!!! Kwa hiyo yale niliyofundishwa Medical school na kupractice hayana ukweli!?

 

[Mr Q]

Usiku mwema na 'disepsheni' zenu

Angalieni mtu asiwadanganye....

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Si what?

We have much more HIV positives than anywhere else in the world.

Name One.

 

[Deception]

.. they do not seem to be making any profits out of the ''ploy''.

I get you now!!
You prove the saying, that "the less people know about something,the more they admire it".What is the function of your brain then?

Do you really think people get ARVs for free?

 

[Deception]

This is a public forum I can't come here and push information down peoples throats that is why I use 'think' and 'believe' quite often when I post.

No probs, I can handle any medical argument so please be my guest, I am deeply knowledgable in medicine and human body autonomy.

By the way, when did you inject yourself HIV infected blood, where is your negative result certificate.. I want to make famous! haha

As I see it, the best way to settle this argument is to get you to visit my lab. Maybe be that will be quicker than wasting time on long posts.

So, tell me where are you?

Lets start here first in order to let others know who presents logical arguments;

By the way,to start with,HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIV IN YOUR LAB LIFE?IF YES,THEN DO US A FAVOUR TO UPLOAD HERE ITS PHOTOGRAPH.I MEAN WE NEED ITS PHOTOGRAPH.

 

[Deception]

Deception

Aisee!!! Kwa hiyo yale niliyofundishwa Medical school na kupractice hayana ukweli!?

Si yote uliyofundishwa shule ni ya kweli,pia si yote uliyosikia kwenye vyombo vya habari ni ya kweli.Baadhi ya mifano itakayokushangaza ni hii hapa chini.

1.Osama bin Laden kulipua WTC kwa kutumia ndege si kweli.Hakuna ndege iliyogonga WTC.Zile video ulizoziona CNN,BBC nk si za kweli.Tumia muda wako kufuatilia utalijua hilo.

2.Kama uliwahi kusikia Swine Flu,Bird Flu na Ebola,basi ujue hakuna magonjwa kama hayo yanayohatarisha maisha ya binadamu.Fuatilia mwenyewe suala la juzijuzi tu kule afrika magharibi na ujue kwa nini sasa hivi Ebola sio habari ya msingi.

3.Uliwahi kusikia kwamba Wamarekani waliwahi kufika mwezini miaka ya 1969.Hakuna proof yoyote kuonesha kwamba walifika mwezini.Fuatilia mwenyewe utajua tu.

Kuna mambo mengi sana watu hawajui kwa jinsi inavyotakiwa wajue,kuna sababu maalum za wale waliotudanganya kuamua kutudanganya.Watu wengi wanaishi hapa duniani kama mifugo,akili zao ni ngumu kuelewa mambo mapya tofauti na yale waliyoyasikia mashuleni au kwenye vyombo vya habari,wanaamini kila kitu wasikiacho,hii ni hatari na utumwa mkubwa sana.

Jambo usilolijua linaweza kukuua hata kama ni dogo sana.Labda nikupe mfano mmoja tu kwa njia ya swali;

Hebu chukulia uko porini mbali na hospitali(kilometa 80 hivi) na hakuna usafiri wa haraka,halafu akatokea nyoka mwenye sumu kali kakugonga/kakung'ata kichwani(sio mguuni/mkononi),Je,utafanya nini kuokoa maisha yako?

 

[IGWE]

upungufu wa kinga mwilini ni hali sawa na unene au wembamba, sema kutokana na watu wengi kutofahma mambo ya afya ndio maana wanaingizwa kingi.

ukimwi hauwambikizwi, achilia mbali na zinaa bali hata kwa vitu vyenye ncha kali.

ahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...nimeipenda hiyo para ya mwisho mkuu

 

[Iconoclastes]

I get you now!!
You prove the saying, that ''the less people know about something,the more they admire it''.What is the function of your brain then?

Do you really think people get ARVs for free?

The ARVs sale profits isnt that big as u want us to believe. It's infact pretty modest, if any.
Much of it are the low cost varieties sold to the low-income countries, where the large bulk of the Aids victims reside. The patients living in those countries obtain the drugs for free cos they're subsidized by the state.

You are yet to convince us that Aids doesnt really exist.
Any evidence of profits accrued from the sale of the ARVs or the claimed nasty side-effects of drugs on some pipo or the few cases of Hiv testers malfunctioning as you'd described above do not help in anyway to solidify your argument that Hiv/Aids is in fact a myth!

 

[mkuyati og]

Deception is a joke. He is the true definition of pure and absolute stupidity superimposed on a meticulously high level of Insanity.
He is what he is, a die hard follower of conspiracy theories. Kila anachojua kinaegemea kwenye conspiracy, nothing more. Kwa hyo wandugu just let him be, nuts!! Discussion kama hizi it's a waste of his,, and what is infinitely worse.. a waste of your time.

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

It's good to have the real proffessionals here, not some masquaraders like Deception. Look at the nonsense I dont know from where he has regurgitated above as ''proofs'' for hiv's non-existence.
I hope u will have to inject him with the blood certified to contain the virus to drive the facts into his head, that is if he will be brave enuff to take your offer to play the lab-rat.

he will be my guinea pig.

these conspiracy theories about HIV non existence are actually driven by people who have irrational fear of getting infected by HIV. by now they have seen the full effects of HIV but they are in massive denial about it

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

Si yote uliyofundishwa shule ni ya kweli,pia si yote uliyosikia kwenye vyombo vya habari ni ya kweli.Baadhi ya mifano itakayokushangaza ni hii hapa chini.

1.Osama bin Laden kulipua WTC kwa kutumia ndege si kweli.Hakuna ndege iliyogonga WTC.Zile video ulizoziona CNN,BBC nk si za kweli.Tumia muda wako kufuatilia utalijua hilo.

2.Kama uliwahi kusikia Swine Flu,Bird Flu na Ebola,basi ujue hakuna magonjwa kama hayo yanayohatarisha maisha ya binadamu.Fuatilia mwenyewe suala la juzijuzi tu kule afrika magharibi na ujue kwa nini sasa hivi Ebola sio habari ya msingi.

3.Uliwahi kusikia kwamba Wamarekani waliwahi kufika mwezini miaka ya 1969.Hakuna proof yoyote kuonesha kwamba walifika mwezini.Fuatilia mwenyewe utajua tu.

Kuna mambo mengi sana watu hawajui kwa jinsi inavyotakiwa wajue,kuna sababu maalum za wale waliotudanganya kuamua kutudanganya.Watu wengi wanaishi hapa duniani kama mifugo,akili zao ni ngumu kuelewa mambo mapya tofauti na yale waliyoyasikia mashuleni au kwenye vyombo vya habari,wanaamini kila kitu wasikiacho,hii ni hatari na utumwa mkubwa sana.

Jambo usilolijua linaweza kukuua hata kama ni dogo sana.Labda nikupe mfano mmoja tu kwa njia ya swali;

Hebu chukulia uko porini mbali na hospitali(kilometa 80 hivi) na hakuna usafiri wa haraka,halafu akatokea nyoka mwenye sumu kali kakugonga/kakung'ata kichwani(sio mguuni/mkononi),Je,utafanya nini kuokoa maisha yako?

so should i conclude by believing you are a conspiracy theorist. i could respond to all of your conspiracies with a fact but most of your theories need an entire new topic.

 

[Deception]

The ARVs sale profits isnt that big as u want us to believe. It's infact pretty modest, if any.
Much of it are the low cost varieties sold to the low-income countries, where the large bulk of the Aids victims reside. The patients living in those countries obtain the drugs for free cos they're subsidized by the state.

You are yet to convince us that Aids doesnt really exist.
Any evidence of profits accrued from the sale of the ARVs or the claimed nasty side-effects of drugs on some pipo or the few cases of Hiv testers malfunctioning as you'd described above do not help in anyway to solidify your argument that Hiv/Aids is in fact a myth!

1."The ARVs sale profits isnt that big as u want us to believe...."

Ndio maana nilishasema kwamba wewe na baadhi ya wengine humu huwa mnaandika vitu msivyovijua,mnatumia hisia na imani tu,mnaongozwa zaidi na kasumba na ushabiki.Wakati mwingine nalazimika kukupa homework badala ya kukuelezea moja kwa moja ukweli.Sasa nakupa homework,fuatilia kwenye wizara ya afya serikali yetu(Tanzania) inatumia kiasi gani cha pesa kwa mwaka kununua madawa ya ARVs peke yake,achilia mbali nchi nyingine duniani,ukishapata jibu ndio utafanya hesabu za kujumlisha ili ujue viwanda vya madawa vinatengeza kiasi gani cha pesa kwa mwaka kwa kuuza ARVs peke yake.Acha ushabiki,jifunze kuelewa mambo tofauti.

2."You are yet to convince us that Aids doesnt really exist...."

Hili nalo ni tatizo lako lingine.Unaji misdirect kwenye hoja za msingi.Hebu ni quote ni wapi nimesema AIDS does not really exist?Tuache ushabiki,ndio maana nilisema toka mwanzo kwamba wenye uwezo wa kuelewa mada kama hizi ni wachache sana.Nikasema pia kwamba kuna baadhi ya elimu huwa zinaeleweka kwa watu fulani tu,si wote wanaweza kuzielewa.Jitahidi ku stretch ubongo kidogo ili uwe miongoni mwetu.Kama unashindwa kuwa na kumbukumbu ya kile nilichoongea muda mfupi tu uliopita,Je,unaweza kweli kuelewa ujazo wa mada hii nzima?


Nakuuliza swali hili moja jepesi ili ku test IQ yako;

Je,unajua vipimo ambavyo wewe umeambiwa ni vya HIV vinapima nini kwenye damu?

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

Lets start here first in order to let others know who presents logical arguments;

By the way,to start with,HAVE YOU EVER SEEN HIV IN YOUR LAB LIFE?IF YES,THEN DO US A FAVOUR TO UPLOAD HERE ITS PHOTOGRAPH.I MEAN WE NEED ITS PHOTOGRAPH.

how will you know if the picture i will upload here is HI virus picture? you need to see it's full effect on your body to truly appreciate that there is HI virus in this world. OR get blood transfusion from HIV+ person.

and the fact your are commenting on the topic in which someone has gone public and announced that they are HIV positive and still denies sets you apart from the majority of people.

Hey, CHARLIES SHEEN had confirmed he is HIV positive.

 

[kupe]

May the guy deception hez desperate HIV positive just b here to get a relief neither to increase the number of young guys wapige kavu wafe. Pure Shetani.

 

[Deception]

how will you know if the picture i will upload here is HI virus picture? you need to see it's full effect on your body to truly appreciate that there is HI virus in this world. OR get blood transfusion from HIV+ person.

and the fact your are commenting on the topic in which someone has gone public and announced that they are HIV positive and still denies sets you apart from the majority of people.

Hey, CHARLIES SHEEN had confirmed he is HIV positive.

Kama nahitaji kufanyiwa blood transfusion yenye huyo HIV ili ndio niathirike,basi hakuna haja ya dunia kuwa na hofu ya ujinga huu,hakuna tena haja ya kupoteza mabilioni ya dola kila mwaka kufanya kampeni za ujinga huu.

Really?Ni kweli nahitaji blood transfusion ili niathirike?Are you serious?Basi ni suala la mantiki zaidi kupoteza fedha kufanya kampeni kuelimisha watu jinsi ya kuvuka barabara ili kuokoa maisha yao kwa kugonjwa na gari kuliko kufanya ujinga huu,kwa maana ni rahisi kupoteza maisha kwa kugongwa na gari kuliko kwa HIV.

Kuendelea na majadiliano na mtu kama wewe ni upotezaji wa muda,kwa maana hujui unachokiongea,yaani kabla hatujaanza kujadili sayansi ya kweli kuhusu suala hili tayari ubongo wako umeshachakaa.

Pamoja na yote,tayari nimeshajadili sana suala hili kwenye nyuzi zilizopita,wapo wengi walioelewa kwa kujua ukweli,hawa wanatosha sana kuwa wajumbe kwa wengine.Si kila elimu inaweza kueleweka kwa kila mtu.Unaweza kubaki na uelewa wako kuliko kuporomosha vichekesho hapa.

Nilichokiona kwako na kwa baadhi humu ni kwamba,hamna basics za kujua kwa nini mimi napinga mambo kama haya.Mnachukulia mambo rahisi tu.

I am sorry for that.

 

[Deception]

Deception is a joke. He is the true definition of pure and absolute stupidity superimposed on a meticulously high level of Insanity.
He is what he is, a die hard follower of conspiracy theories. Kila anachojua kinaegemea kwenye conspiracy, nothing more. Kwa hyo wandugu just let him be, nuts!! Discussion kama hizi it's a waste of his,, and what is infinitely worse.. a waste of your time.

Maneno makali na matusi hayatakusaidia kitu,pia hutakuwa umewasaidia wengine kujua ukweli,punguza chuki binafsi na uoneshe ukomavu wa kifikra kwa kupinga kwa hoja(kama unazo) kile nikisemacho.Vinginevyo unaendelea kuthibitisha jinsi uwezo wenu ulivyo mdogo kwenye suala hili.

Onesha utu uzima na ukomavu wa kifikra.Wewe niliwahi kukupa nafasi ya kukutana na mimi ili nijidunge huyo HIV,Je,uliitumia vipi nafasi hiyo kunithibitishia kwamba kile ninachokisema mimi ni uongo?

Kama wewe hutaki kuelewa ukweli,usiwazuie wengine kuelwa,wewe ni nani hata uwashauri wengine na kuwashikia akili zao wasisikilize hoja ninazozitoa?Kwanini na wewe usitoe hoja zako halafu tukalinganisha na kile kinachotokea mtaani ili tuone ni hoja zipi zina mashiko?Unaogopa nini kufanya hivyo?

Ukiona unapoteza muda humu kwanini usiutupilie mbali mjadala huu na kuwaachia wengine waendelee?Kwanini unashindwa kuzuia kuonesha hasira zako kwangu hadi kuamua kutoa lugha chafu?

 

[iArmaniAdamson]

I am sorry for that.

I didnt understand most of your words in Swahili but I am glad you apologised at the end of your letter.

and i need to make emphasis, that YOU REALLY need to be sorry, I have asked you direct questions, you failed to answer them, we cant continue with this discussion if you cant answer basic question about your one and only experiment.

You claimed to have been injected with HIV+ blood, i have asked you, WHERE, WHEN and WHo was in charge of that experiment, where there certified medical doctors who can be asked about the legitimacy of that test etc etc. You failed to answer those questions.

Moreover, I gave the benefit of the doubt and volunteered for you to come into my lab so that we can do a full medical test and become the first people to prove that HIV does not exist. As i said earlier, I will make you famous if your body fails to get HI virus.

I am not here to make jokes or funny of HIV problem, there are numerous conspiracies but as CHARLIE SHEEN came out and confirmed he is HIV+, I wonder whether you protest about the existence of these infection disease or you are the sort of person who just disagree with everything happening in this world. Ok, you might say some of the things happening in the world arent REAL but HIV/AIDS is as real as water, and YES it does exist!

if you want further proof, I will always be here to help you on your journey of discovery.

 

[Patience123]

Its very hard for people to believe that Charlie Sheen is one of the HIV/AIDS propaganda missile used by big pharmaceutical industries.

Its very annoying when people come to realize that, the so called HIV does not even exist.Very annoying indeed.

At your best.