CHADEMA wazungumze na Zitto na ACT

[Kimweri]

Well, at leat show the weakness in the arguments raised. He said if CDM has creditable evidence that Zito is receiving money from CCM and TISS why dont they show the evidence and use it (in court or parliament) against him? Why dont they do the same thing for Zitto as it was done for those who received escrow money? Because all we hear are allegations which have no proof. May be Zitto is as bad as CDM is trying to portray; help the rest of us see that clearly.

I don't think there is anything to show really.

Bad Tanzanian politicians are used to making hyperbole accusations with nothing to back them up for. And that easily separates the bad politicians from the good ones.

My friend blindly swallowed made up information without fact checking, now he is caught up with an impossible task to prove existence of a non existent thing.

 

[Kimweri]

Court? Why didn't Zitto himself go to court because he was an alleged victim here?

WHUT?

Zitto goes to court because he is alleged to receive money?and even worse accusations come from anonymous internet posters hiding their real names?

CHADEMA just uses dirty tricks to spread negativity around ZITTO because they hate his guts.Plain and simple.

WOW.

 

[yero]

Of-course I never said anywhere Zitto Email was hacked. WOW, you really are technically incompetent to understand what i write.

For me, or anyone to pose as Zitto or JK, all i need to know is their email address, that's it. then i can use that email address to create a make believe email conversation that shows that an email exchange took place. It is too easy! ever wondered why those spoofs are always in printed A4?with ZERO headers?yeah, it's because, that's the fastest way to fool anyone, who prints email conversation in 2015?
What i just described is not hacking my tech-incompetent friend.

As for details of how SPOOFING is done, you are 4 pages late, i did post them before. you didn't understand what i posted that is why you keep on asking.




You conveniently skip the part where you are supposed to show the actual records.

You know why?you are dead scared that your lies will be exposed again.
I can absolutely assure you,In German, the maximum you can send or receive is 10,000 Euros before you are asked for heavy proof of where the money came from. And for the case of German, that might involve an active address tied to your Anmeldebestätigung. The paper trail left behind is impossible to eliminate. And with how much CDM hate ZITTO, i am absolutely sure, if such transaction happened every dick and harry in TZ would know about it with proof shown all over.



You have not brought anything new to the discussion really. I actually feel bad for you.

For me, or anyone to pose as Zitto or JK, all i need to know is their email address, that's it. then i can use that email address to create a make believe email conversation that shows that an email exchange took place. It is too easy! ever wondered why those spoofs are always in printed A4?with ZERO headers?yeah, it's because, that's the fastest way to fool anyone, who prints email conversation in 2015?
What i just described is not hacking my tech-incompetent friend.

Anybody can do that, everybody knows that. At least I expanded my thoughts to raise hacking. In this digital age you can only fool your supporters who know less about e-mail vulnerability and protection. If being a tech is being an expert in explaining e-mail spoofing, then I can’t be more pessimistic about Tanzanian social media’s tech experts.

As for details of how SPOOFING is done, you are 4 pages late, i did post them before. you didn't understand what i posted that is why you keep on asking.


I haven’t ask? You see how your understanding is questionable?

You conveniently skip the part where you are supposed to show the actual records.

You know why?you are dead scared that your lies will be exposed again.
I can absolutely assure you,In German, the maximum you can send or receive is 10,000 Euros before you are asked for heavy proof of where the money came from. And for the case of German, that might involve an active address tied to your Anmeldebestätigung. The paper trail left behind is impossible to eliminate. And with how much CDM hate ZITTO, i am absolutely sure, if such transaction happened every dick and harry in TZ would know about it with proof shown all over.

Read though the link you will find your answers.
https://halihalisi255.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/ripoti-ya-siri-juu-ya-zitto-kabwe/

You have not brought anything new to the discussion really. I actually feel bad for you.

That’s disappointing of you.

 

[yero]

WHUT?

Zitto goes to court because he is alleged to receive money?and even worse accusations come from anonymous internet posters hiding their real names?

CHADEMA just uses dirty tricks to spread negativity around ZITTO because they hate his guts.Plain and simple.

WOW.

haahahaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaa this is funny, you had to come to support him. If Mr. Y spread lies about Mr. X that threaten the reputation of Mr. X, Mr. X is likely to consider a legal sought.

 

[yero]

I don't think there is anything to show really.

Bad Tanzanian politicians are used to making hyperbole accusations with nothing to back them up for. And that easily separates the bad politicians from the good ones.

My friend blindly swallowed made up information without fact checking, now he is caught up with an impossible task to prove existence of a non existent thing.

What about someone who can't prove, that something didn't happen?

 

[Kimweri]

What about someone who can't prove, that something didn't happen?

Smart people keep quite,

Dumb people shout on top of the world about events they have no proof happened.

It's your choice really which side to take.

 

[yero]

Smart people keep quite,

Dumb people shout on top of the world about events they have no proof happened.

It's your choice really which side to take.

Finally you agreed that you can't prove that the events didn't happen. This debate hasn't been about me, it has been about the truth. It is not about taking sides, it is about taking the right path. I am not being led by hate rather by reason. I am delighted to have had this debate with you, I am looking forward for more reasonable debates with you here in JF.

 

[Kimweri]

Anybody can do that, everybody knows that. At least I expanded my thoughts to raise hacking. In this digital age you can only fool your supporters who know less about e-mail vulnerability and protection. If being a tech is being an expert in explaining e-mail spoofing, then I can't be more pessimistic about Tanzanian social media's tech experts.

Sorry, you are just typing garbage.Everything you write comes out as someone who just had a concussion.

I haven't ask? You see how your understanding is questionable?

So much is wrong with this sentence that i refuse to reply to it, unless corrected. You really are loosing it.

Read though the link you will find your answers.
https://halihalisi255.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/ripoti-ya-siri-juu-ya-zitto-kabwe/

Wow Wow Wow!

I ask for proof you bring a "BLOG" effn post!!Seriously! a blog post form a free platform posted by an unknown individual of a report that has more gossip and lies in it than entire catalog of bongo movies?

Anyone with ample time click that so called evidence brought by mr yero and see for yourselves the pathetic-ness of the "PROOFS".

Yani wewe shukuru mungu Uko nyuma ya pazia ( ingawa haikulindi kivile), kwani uzushi unaojaza kwenye server za JF, cybercriiminal law ilitakiwa ihusike na wewe.

 

[Kimweri]

Finally you agreed that you can't prove that the events didn't happen. This debate hasn't been about me, it has been about the truth. It is not about taking sides, it is about taking the right path. I am not being led by hate rather by reason. I am delighted to have had this debate with you, I am looking forward for more reasonable debates with you here in JF.

You really do need help.

You bring accusations on the table with weak evidence. You are calmly reminded that the proof you just showed is useless as it can not stand any scrutiny and is not authentic. You panic and go on rumbling about incoherent matters.

Now that you have realized weak sauce is not going to fly, you are shying away from anything that relates to you producing proof of your accusations.

Its funny a debate about truth is full of assumptions and almost zero truth. That blog link you just sent is in-admissible anywhere as proof.any drunkard can type what i saw in that blog.

what i am glad about in this exchange is you now have full understanding of how difficult it is to prove rumors and next time you see some random gossip you wont jump on it like a schoolgirl/boy.

 

[yero]

You really do need help.

You bring accusations on the table with weak evidence. You are calmly reminded that the proof you just showed is useless as it can not stand any scrutiny and is not authentic. You panic and go on rumbling about incoherent matters.

Now that you have realized weak sauce is not going to fly, you are shying away from anything that relates to you producing proof of your accusations.

Its funny a debate about truth is full of assumptions and almost zero truth. That blog link you just sent is in-admissible anywhere as proof.any drunkard can type what i saw in that blog.

what i am glad about in this exchange is you now have full understanding of how difficult it is to prove rumors and next time you see some random gossip you wont jump on it like a schoolgirl/boy.

I see that now you want us to continue from where we left. You are attacking the site from where the information has been founded instead of attacking the content of the information. I reiterate that what you provided to counter my arguments is just too weak as opposed to the evidence I have provided. I bet you realize more than anyone else in JF today how tedious you can get trying to prove that something is not true when it is in fact true.

 

[Kimweri]

I see that now you want us to continue from where we left. You are attacking the site from where the information has been found instead of attacking the content of the information. I reiterate that what you provided to counter my arguments is just too weak as opposed to the evidence I have provided. I bet you realize more than anyone else in JF today how tedious you can get trying to prove that something is not true when it is in fact true.

Duh,

Authenticity of the source is the first thing any noble and learned person would do.It is this exact reason that Wikipedia is not used in academic references.Poor source.

if simple things like this still are alien to your, it comes as no surprise that you swallow whatever gibberish thrown your way.

proof of transaction from Berliner bank should come from Berliner Bank verified documentation.plain simple. You do not post some link of a dude telling some make believe stories and expect me to buy them.

Document forgery and authentication is a multi-billion dollar industry..., that is why fake money, or certificates are no accepted.

Producing proof does not stop it from being BULLSH*T!

 

[MALAMSSHA]

Kama alitaka kuiwa Chadema wakamwondoa sasa wamwite ili aue UKAWA.

 

[yero]

Duh,

Authenticity of the source is the first thing any noble and learned person would do.It is this exact reason that Wikipedia is not used in academic references.Poor source.

if simple things like this still are alien to your, it comes as no surprise that you swallow whatever gibberish thrown your way.

proof of transaction from Berliner bank should come from Berliner Bank verified documentation.plain simple. You do not post some link of a dude telling some make believe stories and expect me to buy them.

Document forgery and authentication is a multi-billion dollar industry..., that is why fake money, or certificates are no accepted.

Producing proof does not stop it from being BULLSH*T!

You started running wild again, the content of the information counts. I see you want to base your counter arguments on the site, is the site real or not real social media tech expert? We agree to disagree, but you now think you have something to present. Have you ask for proof of transaction from Berliner Bank? If not, I encourage you to follow the processes and ask them whether the transactions took place or not, the same with NMB bank and Western Union.

 

[Kimweri]

You started running wild again, the content of the information counts. I see you want to base your counter arguments on the site, is the site real or not real social media tech expert? We agree to disagree, but you now think you have something to present. Have you ask for proof of transaction from Berliner Bank? If not, I encourage you to follow the processes and ask them whether the transactions took place or not, the same with NMB bank and Western Union.

Wow! you are something..,

You bring lies to the table and ask me to prove on your behalf?are you mentally alright? just because i can smell bullshit from a mile away, don't mean i have to waste my time asking for the obvious.

You really are naive cookie.

How about this...,

GOD has four legs..,and lives in Tucson, please show proof that am lying!

 

[yero]

Kama alitaka kuiwa Chadema wakamwondoa sasa wamwite ili aue UKAWA.

Nashangaa wanavyong'ang'ania mazungumzo ajiunge UKAWA kama vile ni lazima

 

[yero]

Wow! you are something..,

You bring lies to the table and ask me to prove on your behalf?are you mentally alright? just because i can smell bullshit from a mile away, don't mean i have to waste my time asking for the obvious.

You really are naive cookie.

How about this...,

GOD has four legs..,and lives in Tucson, please show proof that am lying!

Genesis 1;26 God said , "Let us make man in our image,after our likeness: That can answer the leg question.

God lives in Heaven and not in Tucson

In a prayer, King Solomon said: "May you yourself listen from the heavens, your established place of dwelling."-1 Kings 8:43.
Jesus Christ taught his disciples to address their prayers to their "Father in the heavens."-Matthew 6:9.
After Jesus was resurrected, he entered "into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God."-Hebrews 9:24.

Stick to the point and don't go wild, it doesn't add weight to your arguments. I continue to say that you can't prove that the events I mentioned didn't happen.

 

[Kimweri]

Genesis 1;26 God said , "Let us make man in our image,after our likeness: That can answer the leg question.

God lives in Heaven and not in Tucson

In a prayer, King Solomon said: "May you yourself listen from the heavens, your established place of dwelling."-1 Kings 8:43.
Jesus Christ taught his disciples to address their prayers to their "Father in the heavens."-Matthew 6:9.
After Jesus was resurrected, he entered "into heaven itself, now to appear before the person of God."-Hebrews 9:24.

Stick to the point and don't go wild, it doesn't add weight to your arguments. I continue to say that you can't prove that the events I mentioned didn't happen.

Good, now that you know absurd hallucination do not need proof, you do realise that when you post some crazy conspiracy theories with zero backing, and shaddy evidence you fall in line as a statement i just posted.

The absurdity of your demands that i prove the validity of your make-believe transactions is similar to making absurd claims about GOD then ask me to prove them.

You must be running low on coffee..,

 

[yero]

Good, now that you know absurd hallucination do not need proof, you do realise that when you post some crazy conspiracy theories with zero backing, and shaddy evidence you fall in line as a statement i just posted.

The absurdity of your demands that i prove the validity of your make-believe transactions is similar to making absurd claims about GOD then ask me to prove them.

You must be running low on coffee..,

How can you be so low, comparing Zitto with God.

 

[Kimweri]

How can you be so low, comparing Zitto with God.

aisee inabidi nianze kuandika kiswahili,inawezekana hunielewi wewe.Sijamlinganisha Mungu na mtu yoyote yule.Kasome vizuri, ukiwa na kamusi pembeni yako.

Ndugu, hoja zako dhaifu sana, uvumilivu wangu wa kuku-babyseat umeishia hapa.

Tschüss

 

[yero]

aisee inabidi nianze kuandika kiswahili,inawezekana hunielewi wewe.Sijamlinganisha Mungu na mtu yoyote yule.Kasome vizuri, ukiwa na kamusi pembeni yako.

Ndugu, hoja zako dhaifu sana, uvumilivu wangu wa kuku-babyseat umeishia hapa.

Tschüss

Ooooh sorry to see you go. It is not unusual for people like you to give up. I am looking foward for more discussions with you though. I must admit, you tried but your statements had a lot of loopholes, that kept me busy closing.