Atheists have no reason to fear death or punishment

[Ishmael]

Why cann't you answer my question.
I said as far as you ask for my prove its already a prove of my existence.

Do I know that you do exist? No I don't. I need a proof that is verifiable, testable, repeatable and scientifically provable.

 

[descarte]

Do I know that you do exist? No I don't. I need a proof that is verifiable, testable, repeatable and scientifically provable.

Non sense,
Can you answer my qns why are you dodging

 

[Ishmael]

Non sense,
Can you answer my qns why are you dodging

You have failed once again to prove to me that you do exist. I need a proof that is verifiable, testable, repeatable and scientifically provable that you do exist.

 

[descarte]

You have failed once again to prove to me that you do exist. I need a proof that is verifiable, testable, repeatable and scientifically provable that you do exist.

It seems You do not understand.
Tell me the evidences of hell and heaven

 

[Ishmael]

It seems You do not understand.
Tell me the evidences of hell and heaven

I understand your frustration. It would suck to be non theist, foolish and defenseless...being castrated by those you despise.

Paul who wrote to the Corinthian Church

2 Cor 10:5
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ

 

[Kwedu Kwazu]

Nipo Mkuu. Kuhofia kifo sio kuhofia hukumu au moto. Kifo ni jambo ambalo halipokelewi kirahisi na mtu yeyote, awe muumini wa Mungu au lah.

Sawa kiongozi, nashukuru kwa maoni yako murua kabisa.

 

[schizoid-man]

Ukipokea zawadi nzuri kwa vyovyote vile ni lazima ufurahi, Ndugu yako/mkeo/ mzazi wako akipanda cheo kazini unafurahi na unaandaa hata sherehe kwa kuwa unawapenda na unafurahia wao kupata kitu chema. Sasa ni kwanini uhuzunike wakifa wakati unajua kabisa wanaenda mahala pazuri?

I repeat, death is not good news, even to God Himself, we feel sorry for our beloved ones because THEY ARE NO LONGER WITH US, do you really expect me laugh or smile when my friend dies in accident or due to sickness just because they're going somewhere more peaceful?
huzuni itanijia kwa kuwa sipo naye tena, lakini nitafarijika kwa kuwa amekwenda kupumzika mahala pasipo na majanga wala machungu yoyote, usiniambie nifurahie kifo cha mtu maana hata Mungu hafurahii lakini kitatupata kwa kuwa tulikitaka wenyewe.
anyway, what does your question has to do with our topic? because I do not see the relation of me being sorry for someones death AND me being scared of death.

 

[Nonda]

Sasa hii nayo tuite Sahih hadeth ya al Nonda or is a new version of Sahih al Bukhari? Nilikwambia kitaambo, wewe kutunga hadith ndio fani yako.

Weye Ishamel.

Unaandika vitabu kama Vya Paulo vyenye haya mamboz:

Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
Ezekiel 23:21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.

Lini unatoa tena , huku mtaani wanavisubiri kwa hamu.

Ishmael bana!

 

[Ishmael]

Weye Ishamel.

Unaandika vitabu kama Vya Paulo vyenye haya mamboz:

Ezekiel 23:20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
Ezekiel 23:21 So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.

Lini unatoa tena , huku mtaani wanavisubiri kwa hamu.

Ishmael bana!

Inaonekana hata haujui wapi alikuwa Ezekiel Mtoto wa Buzi. Kwakukusaidia tu, Ezekiel alitokea kwenye Cohen lineage na aliandika hiyo mambo wakati wa Mfalme wa Juda alifanyiwa kitu mbaya na jeshi la Babylon miaka 622 BC.

Unamfahamu Nebuchadnezzar? Unawakumbuka Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? Kamuulize hata Bob Marley anawafahamu, BASI Ezekiel ndie alikuwa Nabii wao huku Daniel alikuwa katika Nyumba ya Mfalme kule Babylon.

Kumbuka unazungumza na Bible Scjolar na sio Ustaadh Othman Habib Mazinge aliye nikimbia Mombasa mwaka Jana.

 

[descarte]

I understand your frustration. It would suck to be non theist, foolish and defenseless...being castrated by those you despise.

Paul who wrote to the Corinthian Church

2 Cor 10:5
We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ

The evidences of hell and heaven

 

[Nonda]

Ishmael

Hapo kale alikuwepo mfalme aliyempenda mtoto wake kwa upendo na mapenzi yote. Na mfalme hakuacha kutangaza mapenzi yake juu ya mwanae huyu kwa watu . Lakini walitokea vibaka wakatenda kosa, walimkosea mfalme.

La ajabu Mfalme akaamua kumwadhibu mwanae mpenzi ili awasamehe vibaka.

Hivi kama kweli mfalme alikuwa na mapenzi juu ya mwanae kwa nini hakujitolea yeye aadhibiwe? Hivi mfalme hakuweza kuwasamehe tu hizi mtu za escrow?

Ingekuwa wewe Ishmael, kama unaona gari inakujieni na unahisi gari lile litawagonga na una mtoto mmoja tu na mapenzi yako juu yake hayana kipimo. Je utamkinga mwanao asigongwe na gari lile kwa kujitanguliza wewe na kujitoa mhanga ili mwana apone au ndio utamsukuma mwana ili wewe upone?

Sasa hii nayo tuite Sahih hadeth ya al Nonda or is a new version of Sahih al Bukhari? Nilikwambia kitaambo, wewe kutunga hadith ndio fani yako.

Ishmael
Umenichekesha sana leo.

Sisi tunapomiambieni kuwa ninyi kazi zenu ni kutunga paukwa pakawa mnasema tunamchukia Paulo.
Sasa hiyo hadithi unaweza kuiita sahih Paulo.
Au unakana ile ngano yenu ya Mungu kumtoa mhanga mtoto wake wa pekee anayempenda ili ninyi wa-Paulo mpate kufutiwa dhambi ya asili?

Kumbe Paulo alijitungia hadithi ya Mungu kumtoa mhanga wanae?

Sasa ukweli umeuanika Ishmael. Haya koondoo za bwana msikilizeni mchungaji amekiri hapo kuwa story ya Mungu kumtoa mhanga Yesu ili mfutiwe dhambi ni hadithi tu ya Paulo aliyokusudia kutengeneza misukule.

Weye Ishmael ulikuwa unajua habari za hadithi hii kuwa ni utunzi wa Paulo tokea zamani?
Kwa nini unaitumia kukusanyia sadaka?

 

[Nonda]

Inaonekana hata haujui wapi alikuwa Ezekiel Mtoto wa Buzi. Kwakukusaidia tu, Ezekiel alitokea kwenye Cohen lineage na aliandika hiyo mambo wakati wa Mfalme wa Juda alifanyiwa kitu mbaya na jeshi la Babylon miaka 622 BC.

Unamfahamu Nebuchadnezzar? Unawakumbuka Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? Kamuulize hata Bob Marley anawafahamu, BASI Ezekiel ndie alikuwa Nabii wao huku Daniel alikuwa katika Nyumba ya Mfalme kule Babylon.

Kumbuka unazungumza na Bible Scjolar na sio Ustaadh Othman Habib Mazinge aliye nikimbia Mombasa mwaka Jana.

Juzi umesema Deedat alikukimbia na leo unasema mazinge, walikukimbia kwa sababu gani Ishmael?

Unajifanya kama Paulo kujikweza na kujiteua.!!

 

[Ishmael]

The evidences of hell and heaven

As I predicted, you offer simplistic nonsense that entirely eludes the question, inter-alia, you have no answer. Why are you scared of death piteous?

Your diabolical dogma is irrational nonsense that cannot be syncretized with intellect. You can't make sense of it. You can't begin to explain it rationally, yet you BELIEVE like a fundamentalist God Haters. You have failed big time to prove your existence. You have failed even to support your notion of no God.

Once again, you provide nothing. Where are your arguments and evidence?

 

[Ishmael]

Juzi umesema Deedat alikukimbia na leo unasema mazinge, walikukimbia kwa sababu gani Ishmael?

Unajifanya kama Paulo kujikweza na kujiteua.!!

Deedat yeye alikufa kifo kibaya sana baada ya kumtuka Yesu alie hai. Subiri na yule aliye nikimbia dawa yake ipo jikoni.

 

[Ishmael]

Ishmael
Umenichekesha sana leo.

Sisi tunapomiambieni kuwa ninyi kazi zenu ni kutunga paukwa pakawa mnasema tunamchukia Paulo.
Sasa hiyo hadithi unaweza kuiita sahih Paulo.
Au unakana ile ngano yenu ya Mungu kumtoa mhanga mtoto wake wa pekee anayempenda ili ninyi wa-Paulo mpate kufutiwa dhambi ya asili?

Kumbe Paulo alijitungia hadithi ya Mungu kumtoa mhanga wanae?

Sasa ukweli umeuanika Ishmael. Haya koondoo za bwana msikilizeni mchungaji amekiri hapo kuwa story ya Mungu kumtoa mhanga Yesu ili mfutiwe dhambi ni hadithi tu ya Paulo aliyokusudia kutengeneza misukule.

Weye Ishmael ulikuwa unajua habari za hadithi hii kuwa ni utunzi wa Paulo tokea zamani?
Kwa nini unaitumia kukusanyia sadaka?

Teyari umesha kiri kuwa Hadith za Muhammad ni paukwa pakawa. Weye nimesha kuandilai mtutano ili uanze kutuhathia Sahih al Nonda kama zama zile za Mama na Mwana na ile hadithi ya Uwa Jekundu.

Hivyo, Ibn Nonda, jipange, maana sasa utasikia RTD kama bado ipo.

 

[Nonda]

Inaonekana hata haujui wapi alikuwa Ezekiel Mtoto wa Buzi. Kwakukusaidia tu, Ezekiel alitokea kwenye Cohen lineage na aliandika hiyo mambo wakati wa Mfalme wa Juda alifanyiwa kitu mbaya na jeshi la Babylon miaka 622 BC.

Unamfahamu Nebuchadnezzar? Unawakumbuka Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? Kamuulize hata Bob Marley anawafahamu, BASI Ezekiel ndie alikuwa Nabii wao huku Daniel alikuwa katika Nyumba ya Mfalme kule Babylon.

Kumbuka unazungumza na Bible Scjolar na sio Ustaadh Othman Habib Mazinge aliye nikimbia Mombasa mwaka Jana.

Kwa hiyo Mchungaji unasema nini hapo?

Wakati huo Mungu wako mkuu alikuwa hajazaliwa?

Na Mungu yako ilipozaliwa kunyonya ziwa la Bikira Maria, kukua na kubaleghe baadae ilifanyiwa kitu mbaya na nani?
Nani alimfanyia kitu mbaya mungu yenu ninyi wa-Paulo?

 

[Ishmael]

Kwa hiyo Mchungaji unasema nini hapo?

Wakati huo Mungu wako mkuu alikuwa hajazaliwa?

Na Mungu yako ilipozaliwa kunyonya ziwa la Bikira Maria, kukua na kubaleghe baadae ilifanyiwa kitu mbaya na nani?
Nani alimfanyia kitu mbaya mungu yenu ninyi wa-Paulo?

Unaanza kuelewa maana ya Before Christ, KK au BC.

Huwezi sikia before Muhammad au BM. Msiba huu

 

[Nonda]

Teyari umesha kiri kuwa Hadith za Muhammad ni paukwa pakawa. Weye nimesha kuandilai mtutano ili uanze kutuhathia Sahih al Nonda kama zama zile za Mama na Mwana na ile hadithi ya Uwa Jekundu.

Hivyo, Ibn Nonda, jipange, maana sasa utasikia RTD kama bado ipo.

Ishmael
Umeanza kuweweseka dugu!
Leo umekiri kuwa uzushi wenu kuwa Mungu ametoa mhanga mwanae ni zinguo la Paulo tu. Umeiua imani yako kabisa leo. Mtaani huku wanasema Ishmael ameiua imani ya ki-Paulo kifo cha mende!!

 

[Nonda]

Unaanza kuelewa maana ya Before Christ, KK au BC.

Huwezi sikia before Muhammad au BM. Msiba huu

Link Gregorian calendar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Link Islamic calendar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kwa hili huna hoja ya maana Ishmael..unaweza danganya kondoo za bwana lakini sio mtu anayejisomea vijarida na kujua mambo ya tarehe.
Hii kitu BC na AD ni ubunifu wa mtu tu. Kama Paulo alivyobuni ngano zake.

Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

I repeat, death is not good news, even to God Himself, we feel sorry for our beloved ones because THEY ARE NO LONGER WITH US, do you really expect me laugh or smile when my friend dies in accident or due to sickness just because they're going somewhere more peaceful?
huzuni itanijia kwa kuwa sipo naye tena, lakini nitafarijika kwa kuwa amekwenda kupumzika mahala pasipo na majanga wala machungu yoyote, usiniambie nifurahie kifo cha mtu maana hata Mungu hafurahii lakini kitatupata kwa kuwa tulikitaka wenyewe.
anyway, what does your question has to do with our topic? because I do not see the relation of me being sorry for someones death AND me being scared of death.

Being sorry comes for many reasons one of which is fear for what we know is bad that we know is about to happen to someone or that has already happened to those we wish would never face it , which is what we are discussing here, remember we are discussing if really atheists should fear death and punishment. I said everybody does fear death, which brought us into arguing if theists do not fear death too etc etc! Are we on the same page now?