Kipengele cha 'DINI' ktk vitambulisho vya taifa

[OLESAIDIMU]

Listen you pussy cat doll....... if it doesnt matter, why bother

Bastard wewe, babako, mamako, bibiyako, babu zako, mmeo, vizazi vyako, mali zako, mimea yako, choo chako, na kama una madeni nayo bastard, kama una ndoto nazo bastard na hata kama una mawazo yoyote yale yooote ni bastard

walaanatuk

وأنا لا اللعنة مثليون جنسيا، وسبق أن والدك

Congratulations dear MODS........as kwenu tusi ni motherfunter tu.............

 

[SIM]

Baada ya sheikh Ponda kuwashawishi wajinga wachache kugomea sensa kwa kigezo cha kutokuwapo kipengele cha dini katika madodoso ya sensa, sasa macho na masikio yanaelekezwa katika zoezi la vitambulisho vya taifa.

Swali la kujiuliza; je, Ponda (kama kweli ni raia wa Tz na anastahili kupewa ID) na wengine wenye msimamo mkali wa dini ya kiisilamu, watagomea kupokea vitambulisho vya taifa hadi kipepengele cha dini kijumuishwe?

Wewe utakua m.j.i.n.g.a +

 

[Ngongoseke]

Hapana mkuu usipite, wana jf tutafuteni solution ya udini, kama hakuna viongozi shupavu wa kupambana na udini ila tunao waku promote we cant just seat down and watch our country deteriorate kwa faida ya vizazi vyetu vijavyo we have to do something.

Mkuu kwanza tungeanza kuheshimiana sisi na dini zetu halafu ndio tungefikiria vizazi vyetu'lakini jaribu kupitia comment uone watu wameishiwa hoja wanaanza kutukana dini za wenzao tena kwa kejeli'hili jukwaa kweli limekosa maana hakuna tunachojifunza JF zaidi ya kuongeza chuki kati yetu'ukweli kuwa nchi za middle east zilitumia social network kama chachu ya mabadiliko ya maendeleo nchini mwao'ajabu sisi social tunatumia kukashifiana na kudharauliana tu'hapa watawala wetu wanaotafuna nchi kama mchwa wanafurahi sana wakiona hivi

 

[ITEGAMATWI]

umesema mwenyewe fungua ubongo kuruhusu idea nyingine. Kama sio udini uliowajaa, kwani mtu akipotosha juu ya jambo fulani ndo unaanza kuilazimisha serikali kufanya kitu ambacho haijawahi kufikiri kukifanya? Kwa nini usiwafuate hao waliotoa takwimu na kuwauliza, wamezitoa wapi? Kwani lazima kukubaliana nao? Ukiwapotezea utapungukiwa nini?

Kama kweli mlidhamiria, mgomee hata vitambulisho, mdai huo uislam wenu

Mkuu siyo mimi,nimejaribu tu kuelezea hoja za Sheikh Ponda kupinga ushiriki wa Sensa,sasa kama wewe unaona hazina mashiko that has nothing to do with me! Kama unaweza kujenga hoja yenye mashiko kwenye hili la vitambulisho kuhusu kuweka kipengere cha dini basi bila shaka utapata wafuasi pia.

 

[Janjaweed]

Yeh aim bothered because i feel sorry for you Why did God create fools like you??? If I'm not mistaken you are in your early 30s frustrated hujapata mume wa kukustiri ? So you're going to be in your late 30s by the time your menopause come ...At that time no one will come for you so this is what you do find all posts about islam and muslims and release your all tensions ...

news flash tough guy ponda inawezekana hana haja ya kuongeza mke wa tatu try to diss mtu mwengine maybe utapata bahati and yeah, good luck with all that... idiot

P.S - The last sentence of your post sure screams deep desperation on your part...

shoddy mentality and shallow personality......... you started kusema mawazo sio significant, then spending time buzzing around with misguided guesswork mpaka kwenye umri, as i said before, stay off my dikc!!

God needed to create fools for the wise to coy with, and his blessing are clear as one fool "njiwa" struggles to guess umri wa mtu na life yake ... a good proof for the course!!! we had that story ya mhangaikaji aliyekua bize kuongeza zigo kichwani, akitoka jasho na kushindwa hata kuamka, lakini bize kuongeza mzigo.... alipoulizwa alijibu nini??? ule ndio upumbavu wako... umesema hiki lakini unahangaika na kile, una mzigo mkubwa sana kwa uislam, dini ya kiislamu si divisive, ni dini ya brotherhood, na haibagui.... ila wewe na laana yako ya ubaguzi na kuwashwawashwa huko nyuma basi unahangaika sana..... Jah bless

I have issues with Ponda and his divisive tactics towards the nation, Maalim Ahmed in 1982 when i was in standard five at "tarbiya til Islamiya" Mwenge once told me.... you are blessed with one thing, fighting divisive people, and i keep it to my chest forever

Ukija kingese ntakupokea kingese, ukija Kiislamu ntakupokea kiislamu........ Laanakum wahed

BTW, your attack and belittling female gender to this post tells a lot about your relationship with your mother, sister, wife and daughter... what a heist

 

[Janjaweed]

Congratulations dear MODS........as kwenu tusi ni motherfunter tu.............

soma na yeye huyo njiwa wa kike anaandika nini.......... sio unaangalia upande mmoja

kama ban tupigwe wote

aliyesema bastard ni nani?? siyo huyo bastard senior??

sikiliza mkuu........... ukitaka kuwa fair, approach kitu in two pronges la sivyo kaa kimya!!!

 

[Barubaru]

Mimi nakubaliana kabisa na kusema siku zote waTz ni wavivu sana wa kufikiri na ndio maana inakuwa rahisi sana kuweza kuiga mambo pasi na kujua chanzo chake. Ingawa kimantiki unaweza kuna wasomi lakin ilmu waliybaadgi ya dini hazikutajes hspo ksms nduguopata inakuwa bure kwa jamii yao zaidi ya kupenda kudhulumiana wenyewe kwa wenyewe.

Nafikiri Kwa wanaompinga Ponda. Tembeleeni tovuti ya bodi ya utalii tanzania (TTB) hapo utaona imeainishwa wazi kuna kipengele cha DINI na wametoa taarifa kwa ku estimate na kuna ndugu zangu RASTAS ambao hawajatajwa humo na dini nyingine nyingi tu. Je mnatenda haki kwa hilo.

Nawashauri ni bora mngeondoa kipengele cha DODOSO lenu kinachomuuliza mtu kama anajua kiingereza na kiswahili na kuweka hicho cha DINi ambacho kina maana sana. Kujua lugha hakuwezi kusaidia lolote katika kupanga maendeleo ua uchumi wa nchi yenu. Wakti kujua idadi ya Dini zilizopo na kujua idadi ya waumini wa dini inasadia katika kuandika profile ya nchi yenu katika kuvutia watalii na wawekezaji.

Fungukeni

 

[Janjaweed]

Mimi nakubaliana kabisa na kusema siku zote waTz ni wavivu sana wa kufikiri na ndio maana inakuwa rahisi sana kuweza kuiga mambo pasi na kujua chanzo chake. Ingawa kimantiki unaweza kuna wasomi lakin ilmu waliybaadgi ya dini hazikutajes hspo ksms nduguopata inakuwa bure kwa jamii yao zaidi ya kupenda kudhulumiana wenyewe kwa wenyewe.

Nafikiri Kwa wanaompinga Ponda. Tembeleeni tovuti ya bodi ya utalii tanzania (TTB) hapo utaona imeainishwa wazi kuna kipengele cha DINI na wametoa taarifa kwa ku estimate na kuna ndugu zangu RASTAS ambao hawajatajwa humo na dini nyingine nyingi tu. Je mnatenda haki kwa hilo.

Nawashauri ni bora mngeondoa kipengele cha DODOSO lenu kinachomuuliza mtu kama anajua kiingereza na kiswahili na kuweka hicho cha DINi ambacho kina maana sana. Kujua lugha hakuwezi kusaidia lolote katika kupanga maendeleo ua uchumi wa nchi yenu. Wakti kujua idadi ya Dini zilizopo na kujua idadi ya waumini wa dini inasadia katika kuandika profile ya nchi yenu katika kuvutia watalii na wawekezaji.

Fungukeni

respect prof...

umeweka hoja vizuri na kwa heshima kubwa nakubaliana na wewe... Nadhani kipengele cha dini hakina tatizo kama ilivyotarajiwa, tatizo ni ile dhana ya kwanini sasa, na sio zamani au kesho.... pia tuna tatizo la ujumla la takwimu, hatuhitaji ku-dwell kwenye assumptions if we could do sensa na kumaliza ubishi.

tatizo langu ni moja tu... approach ya ndugu yangu Ponda; ni radical, violent, offensive nk. juzi alikua analaani vyama fulani, kesho anafanya yaleyale nk

labda pia tujiulize, kwenye nchi ya kuchakachua kama yetu, wakiamua kupika data hawawezi?

 

[OLESAIDIMU]

soma na yeye huyo njiwa wa kike anaandika nini.......... sio unaangalia upande mmoja

kama ban tupigwe wote

aliyesema bastard ni nani?? siyo huyo bastard senior??

sikiliza mkuu........... ukitaka kuwa fair, approach kitu in two pronges la sivyo kaa kimya!!!

Mkuu hii mada haikuwa yako its between me and the MODS please.........I was dealing with a stimulus not mere responses

 

[Janjaweed]

Mkuu hii mada haikuwa yako its between me and the MODS please.........I was dealing with a stimulus not mere responses

utasemaje haikua yangu wakati ume-quote my post??? you could have just reported abuse then, no need to quote me if it was at all a stimulus

 

[Lawrence Luanda]

Ponda na wengine walikuwa na hoja ya msingi, ifike maali tuache serikali ifanye kazi za kiserikali na dini zifanye zao....sioni mantiki ya kanisa kutoa takwimu za kidini wakati wanajua data hizo zinatakiwa kutolewa serikalini na kimsingi hazipo. mm mtazamo wangu ni kanisa ndio lililotufikisha hapa na wajifunze sasa kuheshimu mamlaka rasmi kwa vitu mahususi.
Kama watataka ili la vitambulisho nalo liwe na kipengere cha dini then ntafikiri kuwa kuna agenda iliyonyuma ya pazia.

 

[OLESAIDIMU]

utasemaje haikua yangu wakati ume-quote my post???

Fuatilia thread yote utaona nini I was adressing.......hata shule tuna quote scholars kwa matumizi yetu binafsi au pale huwa tunamuandikia nani????

 

[Janjaweed]

Fuatilia thread yote utaona nini I was adressing.......hata shule tuna quote scholars kwa matumizi yetu binafsi au pale huwa tunamuandikia nani????

thanks mkuu... ila quoting someone and saying its not about him is not fair,,, i coudnt cquote Newton, kaizen, porter, ford, belbin or any of them and niseme its not about them and their "mere theories"... unless sijasoma!!! when we quote, to some extent, it is about the source/origin of our quote

You were right the language was not fair but two wrongs wont make anything right!! its not about antidoting the dote

anyway my signature may help you

 

[OLESAIDIMU]

utasemaje haikua yangu wakati ume-quote my post??? you could have just reported abuse then, no need to quote me if it was at all a stimulus

No hard feelings, grudges no beef son

Respect Janjaweed@

 

[Janjaweed]

No hard feelings, grudges no beef son

Respect Janjaweed@

sorry kama nimekuudhi........ sometimes maishani kero huzaa improvement

 

[Lawrence Luanda]

shoddy mentality and shallow personality......... You started kusema mawazo sio significant, then spending time buzzing around with misguided guesswork mpaka kwenye umri, as i said before, stay off my dikc!!

God needed to create fools for the wise to coy with, and his blessing are clear as one fool "njiwa" struggles to guess umri wa mtu na life yake ... A good proof for the course!!! We had that story ya mhangaikaji aliyekua bize kuongeza zigo kichwani, akitoka jasho na kushindwa hata kuamka, lakini bize kuongeza mzigo.... Alipoulizwa alijibu nini??? Ule ndio upumbavu wako... Umesema hiki lakini unahangaika na kile, una mzigo mkubwa sana kwa uislam, dini ya kiislamu si divisive, ni dini ya brotherhood, na haibagui.... Ila wewe na laana yako ya ubaguzi na kuwashwawashwa huko nyuma basi unahangaika sana..... Jah bless

i have issues with ponda and his divisive tactics towards the nation, maalim ahmed in 1982 when i was in standard five at "tarbiya til islamiya" mwenge once told me.... You are blessed with one thing, fighting divisive people, and i keep it to my chest forever

ukija kingese ntakupokea kingese, ukija kiislamu ntakupokea kiislamu........ Laanakum wahed

btw, your attack and belittling female gender to this post tells a lot about your relationship with your mother, sister, wife and daughter... What a heist

hoja za dini ni ngumu wadau tunahitaji ku control hasira zetu na ikibidi kukubali kutokukubaliana kwenye hoja.

 

[Janjaweed]

hoja za dini ni ngumu wadau tunahitaji ku control hasira zetu na ikibidi kukubali kutokukubaliana kwenye hoja.

naelewa mkuu... ila huyo jamaa niachieni mimi!!! alidandia treni kwa mbele, basi wacha niendelee nae tu

 

[OLESAIDIMU]

sorry kama nimekuudhi........ sometimes maishani kero huzaa improvement

M ok kaka......kisu hunolewa kwa kukichubua juu ya kinoleo

 

[danizzo]

Ufuatao ni ujinga wa wakristo japo kwa ufupi; wanasema kila mtu atabeba dhambi zake lakin wao za kwao wamebebewa na yesu! Tehe! Mpaka leo wanabishana je yesu ni mungu au mtoto wa mungu hawanajibu mpaka leo. Tehe! Wanajiita wakristo ila kila kanisa lina jinsi yake ya kuabudu. Tehe! Wanao amini yesu ni mungu mwana amini pia mungu ali uliwa na viumbe alio waumba! Tehe wanao amini yesu ni mwana wa mungu pia wana amini mungu alizaa na kiumbe wake mariam yani ni mkewe tehe! Wakati wao wana mshutumu ponda kwa ujinga bado wao wana watukuza viongozi wao wanao kwa kuwapa sheria kua chochote waweza kula ila watakacho kunya ndo aramu. Je wewe kama mkristo una jiamini nini mpaka uka waita waislam wajinga ikiwa wewe waambiwa utoe boriti katika jicho lako kwanza! Nyinyi ni kondoo! Tena wa bwana pengo

 

[Janjaweed]

Ufuatao ni ujinga wa wakristo japo kwa ufupi; wanasema kila mtu atabeba dhambi zake lakin wao za kwao wamebebewa na yesu! Tehe! Mpaka leo wanabishana je yesu ni mungu au mtoto wa mungu hawanajibu mpaka leo. Tehe! Wanajiita wakristo ila kila kanisa lina jinsi yake ya kuabudu. Tehe! Wanao amini yesu ni mungu mwana amini pia mungu ali uliwa na viumbe alio waumba! Tehe wanao amini yesu ni mwana wa mungu pia wana amini mungu alizaa na kiumbe wake mariam yani ni mkewe tehe! Wakati wao wana mshutumu ponda kwa ujinga bado wao wana watukuza viongozi wao wanao kwa kuwapa sheria kua chochote waweza kula ila watakacho kunya ndo aramu. Je wewe kama mkristo una jiamini nini mpaka uka waita waislam wajinga ikiwa wewe waambiwa utoe boriti katika jicho lako kwanza! Nyinyi ni kondoo! Tena wa bwana pengo

hiyo nayo inaingia kwenye dodoso za sensa na vitambulisho vya utaifa?? au ndio ile ya kukurupuka sababu ya mneli?