Why Magufuli administration misses the point on government splurge

Rutashubanyuma

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So far our president has set a tone of how his government should work.

For instance you will wonder the former applauded ministers failed to see foul play at TRA and Port. ...With JPM we are starting a new are but to set the government machinery is not an easy task.

Let's join hands with our president towards this noble cause
Is there any nobility in rigging an election and thereafter climbing a higher moral ground via finger pointing and persecuting the sardines hoping that we shall forget and forgive how you looted your way to public office?
 

Rutashubanyuma

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What is parochial in advocating for effective supervision or management of government institutions , resources and service delivery ? You should remember that behind strong and efficient institutions there are equally efficient and committed individuals-institutions are not made of stones !

It is unfortunate you seem not to recognize the wind of change that is blowing across the country for reasons best known to yourself. Does it mean every leader at any level now in the country , or anywhere else , who comes up to do his work is building a personality cult ? That diversionary talk will not distract us and our brave leaders from fulfilling the hopes and expectations of the Tanzanian masses.

Of course there are ‘losers' in this new political dispensation who do not wish Tanzania well. They include those who have been thriving on systemic graft and corruption that almost brought the country to its knees, and of course other actors who are not in favour of the country's stand on regional issues. Your bitter stance on President Magufuli and the new political dispensation may be understood in that context
The problem of this kind of views is dearth of historical facts. Every president lucky enough to ascend to power was vigorous and full of gusto but time has always proved beyond reasonable doubt we are in for a joyrider
 

Rutashubanyuma

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You seem to be trying to jump the gun; you must appreciate the fact that this country needed a "Shock therapy" to stop a failing heart from total collapse while bidding time to initiate lasting clinical management. JPM needed to start somewhere; mind you even the cabinet and the new government structures are not in place yet, the parliament is in reccess; how the heck do you expect the president to start with reforms without the structures in place?!

Academic theories are non starters here; the situation on the theatre table determines the surgeons approach to the operation. Give JPM time to work out strategy and approach as he deems fit; afterall the buck stops with him not "Rutashubanyuma or Rutaililamumaisho" or any one of us lesser mortals for that matter!

Jipe muda wa kutosha; nchi haiwaki moto! Ili upate vigezo muhimu vya kufanyia uchambuzi sahihi zaidi.
Shock therapy by an electoral thief? Over my left shoe!
 

Rutashubanyuma

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You seem to be trying to jump the gun; you must appreciate the fact that this country needed a "Shock therapy" to stop a failing heart from total collapse while bidding time to initiate lasting clinical management. JPM needed to start somewhere; mind you even the cabinet and the new government structures are not in place yet, the parliament is in reccess; how the heck do you expect the president to start with reforms without the structures in place?!

Academic theories are non starters here; the situation on the theatre table determines the surgeons approach to the operation. Give JPM time to work out strategy and approach as he deems fit; afterall the buck stops with him not "Rutashubanyuma or Rutaililamumaisho" or any one of us lesser mortals for that matter!

Jipe muda wa kutosha; nchi haiwaki moto! Ili upate vigezo muhimu vya kufanyia uchambuzi sahihi zaidi.
Five years is not a long period you gonna eat your vain hopes
 

Hoshea

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Not mastering the language confirms the limitations of your academic background and cast serious doubts over whether you have understood what I wrote.

Can an individual be Our Redeemer. How risible to contemplate this let alone inking it for the general public to see what is in your upstairs!
Maan! An individual can be a role model
 

Rutashubanyuma

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So far our president has set a tone of how his government should work.

For instance you will wonder the former applauded ministers failed to see foul play at TRA and Port. ...With JPM we are starting a new are but to set the government machinery is not an easy task.

Let's join hands with our president towards this noble cause
What happening is not permanent prevention but temporary curative measures
 

Hoshea

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I concur with most of your aguement and with to salute you for your strong language command,You must have acquired and utilised white man wisdom.I wish Magufuli had given a time flame on new constitution it will be defining solution to our ineffective policies especially if all wananchi opinion polls will be taken on board.
Maguful personally has admitted that we have bad law which need to be changed immediately like public procurement so when some layman make conclusion that we only lack supervision it is absurd.
most of our laws were enacted to contain opposition and create a one-man show in government business.
Patriots, look at this guy orgasming at a white man's wisdom, brainwashed guys affected by elites.
FYI all the white men wisdom came from black men, read your history and know thyself
 

Hoshea

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There is no commitment in stealing an election. There is no bitterness in asking for justice. We owe it to millions who voted.

Even Satan after murdering the truth he transforms himself into an angel of light no wonder that his messengers of unrighteousness transforms themselves into angels of "commitment" after a daylight robbery of this historical election.

Unless we address what went wrong into this election the same electoral theft will be repeated again and again until we see bloodshed on our streets then we shall ask ourselves what went wrong like Kenya after 2007 election bungle.

There is no commitment in sweeping under the carpet allegations of electoral improprieties.
Maan! There's no Satan, Satan is in you if you wish to emit him, so is God
 

BOB LUSE

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Patriots, look at this guy orgasming at a white man's wisdom, brainwashed guys affected by elites.
FYI all the white men wisdom came from black men, read your history and know thyself
you could be hero if you had chosen to use your mother tang if you dont value white man wisdom you imbecile.
 

Hoshea

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Tatizo ni kuwa bila haki hakuna maendeleo. Huwezi ukawa unalalamikiwa umeiba kura ukatia pamba masikioni na kukazana kuwala anga dagaa ukitarajia dhambi yako kusafishika.

Haiendi hivyo. Baada ya miaka Mitano tegemea uchumi kudorora na huku ugumu wa maisha kuongezeka bila ya mabadiliko kwenye sera, sheria na katiba.

Mifumo ya uendeshaji kuendelea kuwa hii hii huku matarajio yetu kuwa kwa mtu mmoja aitwaye Pombe.

Nchi haiwezi kufanikiwa kimaendeleo kwa upeo finyu kiasi hicho.
Now this is emission of the devil, toka multiparty inaanza umewahi sikia upinzani imekubaliana na matokeo. Now why engage with guys that never agree to loose.
Maan! You sound bitter ma niga. Chill and be positive and live life, au jipu limetumbuliwa mzee hehee
 

Hoshea

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you could be hero if you had chosen to use your mother tang if you dont value white man wisdom you imbecile.
Niga chill don't get hot, am not trying be a hero here, we just debating, inhale exhale, and look above some post, the OP wants this discussion done in english. Isn't it rutashubuluywa
 

Andrew Nyerere

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Umesema Magufuli government lacks ideas of how to reform government. You will say'Najua nilivyosema. I want to know what is your opinion? " Kwanza there is no government. This man is Stalin.Maoni yangu, he is doing a good job.But,you complain,what methoddoes he use? Because without method surely the reforms will collapse. WHO is advising him?
 

KVM

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Yes we need concrete policies, in fact wouldn't be surprised to find them stacked in various Government Ministries and Departments. According to my perception having pieces of paper well articulated doesn't bring change by itself. Human capital still plays the best vital role of translating words into actions.

Go Double M Team
We have some of the best policies and plans which can be implemented. Some countries have copied our policies,have implemented them, and have worked. Some countries have gone to the extent of even borrowing some of our citizens to go and implement and supervise the policies they borrowed from us.

What we need is not more policies but effective implementation and follow-up. Heavy handedness is needed to stop the impunity in our country. I am still wondering why all those who are accused of stealing public funds are taken to court with their hands in their pockets as if we don't have funds to buy handcuffs.
 

KVM

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We have always been long on applauding both the effort and intent but short in appraising the effectiveness of drastic measures declared and vigorously pursued by our post colonial administrations.

Nyerere was lauded for Azimio la Arusha but he later admitted the policy tools and directions were faulty, and economic decimation was all too much of an eyesore to all of us. The legacy of Nyerere administration will always be soiled by sheer levels of economic mismanagements despite genuine efforts to address causes and effects of our underdevelopment.

Mwinyi administration was accorded a red carpet reverence for the frantic effort to undo "Nyerereism" via the antithesis of the Zanzibar declaration but we all know better the indigenization of our economy took a back seat as the economy was placed in grubby hands of aliens.

Mkapa administration cemented official graft while its successive administration of Jakaya Kikwete approved it in all its pernicious forms.

Then comes Magufuli administration while a couple of weeks in office seems lacking ideas of how to reform the government, and has so far been generating plenty of heat but very little substance.

Sweeteners may taste good on mouth but in the stomach are likely to foment gastric juice notorious for corroding the intestines. What this nation needs is reforms on good governance where accountability has been sacrificed at the altar of nepotism and sycophancy.

We need to restore pre-independence accountability if we are to reach where a president has no business to snatch duties and responsibilities of his juniors but to oversee them.

For start, he needs to acknowledge NEC ought to be fully investigated by an impartial commission how it conducted this election despite its numerous vain claims that the election was free, fair and transparent. We need a legislation to empower that commission but we also need the same commission to investigate thoroughly how this very partisan police interfered with the electoral process. We cannot face another election where UKAWA are adamant they were shortchanged and we have a president who may or may not be a squatter at our IKULU pretending to bribe us with "peremende" and expect for a different result.

On government splurge, we need concrete policies and pieces of legislation like capping staff emoluments based on a ratio of recurrent expenditure. What I have seen; so far, is a battle of nomenclatures which past administrations fought with equal zeal but lost because they never identified policy tools to do it.
You have started a good debate but you have somehow diluted it and confused some of us after you mixed it with politics. I know that the two are difficulty to disentangle but it would have been better to do so in this case.
 

KVM

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Umesema Magufuli government lacks ideas of how to reform government. You will say'Najua nilivyosema. I want to know what is your opinion? " Kwanza there is no government. This man is Stalin.Maoni yangu, he is doing a good job.But,you complain,what methoddoes he use? Because without method surely the reforms will collapse. WHO is advising him?
Somehow difficult to understand what you want to put across. Possibly you are too philosophical.
 

KIBONGOMKUTI

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We have some of the best policies and plans which can be implemented. Some countries have copied our policies,have implemented them, and have worked. Some countries have gone to the extent of even borrowing some of our citizens to go and implement and supervise the policies they borrowed from us.

What we need is not more policies but effective implementation and follow-up. Heavy handedness is needed to stop the impunity in our country. I am still wondering why all those who are accused of stealing public funds are taken to court with their hands in their pockets as if we don't have funds to buy handcuffs.
You have nailed it correctly no more words to spice it up, however with regards to Criminal Suspects walking hands in Pocket is simply meant " Innocent until proved Guilty" No matter how badly we hate their illegal acts shouldn't comprise with right to be heard.
 

KIBONGOMKUTI

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How will you rate him five years from now? Having a new constitution that will strengthen accountability or indulging himself in punishing "prawns" in our morally decadent public institutions?

Will presidential amnesties be done with in that "strong policies" of yours? We all know better!
I buy the idea of doing a critical evaluation for his 100 days in office, honestly am not fond of single man show rather would like to see well organized systems/structures functioning for the best interests of all Tanzanians.
 
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