Whataboutism

[Nyani Ngabu]

Whataboutism, or if you like, whataboutery.

What is it? It’s a rhetorical device. It’s a form of ‘tu quoque’. ‘You too’.

When someone employs it as a tactic, it’s proof positive that they’re on the back foot.

Look here, there’s no perfect society anywhere in the world. I have never ever seen one. If anyone of you has, show me where it’s at.

Now, if a country like the United States of America says that it’s concerned about the deterioration of civil liberties in your country and all you have is ‘well, you got issues too’, that my friends is what is called whataboutism.

Charging your accuser with what you have been charged with. You don’t really address your accusations. You don’t refute their veracity.

All you do is just point the finger right back.

That’s what Albert Msando has done.

 

[Allen Kilewella]

Naona ni mada nzuri sana, lakini hebu iwekee tafsiri rahisi sana ili na sisi wa "madongo kuinama" tuweze kuelewa hatimae kuchangia!

Au na mimi nimekushutumu?

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Naona ni mada nzuri sana, lakini hebu iwekee tafsiri rahisi sana ili na sisi wa "madongo kuinama" tuweze kuelewa hatimae kuchangia!

Au na mimi nimekushutumu?

Hahahaaa. Ugumu wake nini bana?

But seriously, hicho si ndicho alichokifanya Msando? Au nimepotoka?

 

[Paul Alex]

Sasa hivi kila mmoja anaongelea USA kama kijiji flani hivi huko Sumbawanga ndanindani!
Tamko linapaswa kutolewa kwa watu wote kukaa kimya na viongozi wenye dhamana kideal na hizi shutuma kwa weledi!
USA sio Burundi!!!

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[Nyani Ngabu]

Sasa hivi kila mmoja anaongelea USA kama kijiji flani hivi huko Sumbawanga ndanindani!
Tamko linapaswa kutolewa kwa watu wote kukaa kimya na viongozi wenye dhamana kideal na hizi shutuma kwa weledi!
USA sio Burundi!!!

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USA 🇺🇸 baby

 

[MKWEPA KODI]

Hapa bashite na baba yake hawawezi kuelewa kabisa

 

[Interest]

I have learned a new word today. Whataboutism/whataboutery.

Msando did the right thing. Comparative argumentation.

Thank you amigo!

 

[Allen Kilewella]

Hahahaaa. Ugumu wake nini bana?

Lugha!! Sie wa kutumia kamusi angalau kidogo tunaokota okota!!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Hapa bashite na baba yake hawawezi kuelewa kabisa

Inachekesha, lakini ni kweli pia!

 

[Masanja]

Msando mzee wa fursa. He simply wants to attract attention especially from JPM and his circle. But as a matter of fact, tunaomjua AM is a professional crook. Serikali ingekuwa inatoa vyeo kwa kufanya vetting kama zamani, sidhani kama iko siku huyu bwana angepata hata ujumbe wa nyumba kumi. Again we live in changed times! Good riddance!

Show me his friends.......

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

I have learned a new word today. Whataboutism/whataboutery.

Msando did the right thing. Comparative argumentation.

Thank you amigo!

He is just engaging in whataboutery.

A sidetracking tactic.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

 

[Allen Kilewella]

He is just engaging in whataboutery.

A sidetracking tactic.

Interest naye naona kama hajajibu hoja. Anaposema kwamba Msando amefanya kitu kizuri anamaanisha kitu kizuri kivipi? Maana USA hawajatoa andiko bali wametoa taarifa kwa tendo walilofanya. Msando ameandika andiko, sasa kuna uhusiano gani hapo?

Yaani wanataka kusema kwamba Pompeo atamsikiliza Msando. Msando ni nani kwenye serikali ya Tanzania? Yaani serikali haijibu anatokea mtu anaandika maoni yake halafu wengine tunaona huyo alieandika kafanya kitu sahihi badala ya kujiuliza ni kwa nini serikali yetu haitoi maelezo kuhusu maamuzi ya kidplomasia yalilyofanywa na USA?

 

[matunduizi]

Vipi Kwa kesi ya kuhamisha reli kuwa sababu ya travel ban ni suala LA ushoga.

Hii scenario inaitwaje Kwa kimombo.

Mkuu unaandika umombo mtamu saana.

 

[Interest]

Allen Kilewella,

Wizara ya Mambo ya Ndani ilisema bado haijapokea taarifa rasmi kutoka USA.

Msando amefanya jambo sahihi kujibu tamko la mtandaoni kwa njia ile ile.

 

[Allen Kilewella]

Msando amefanya jambo sahihi kujibu tamko la mtandaoni kwa njia ile ile.

Kwa kuishutumu Marekani badala ya kuonesha kwamba Makonda hausiki kwa tuhuma alizotuhumiwa na Marekani? Ni sawa kwa mtu anayekwambia kwamba una tongotongo Usoni wewe kumjibu kwamba mbona na wewe shati lako hujalinyoosha kwa pasi!!

 

[Allen Kilewella]

Wewe ndio unawasiwasi,Msando kaichana Amerika iache unafiki,na uhuru huo anao kwa mujibu was katiba yetu

Hoja hapo ni kwamba Makonda kafanya ama hajafanya hayo anayotuhumiwa nayo?

 

[Interest]

Kwa kuishutumu Marekani badala ya kuonesha kwamba Makonda hausiki kwa tuhuma alizotuhumiwa na Marekani? Ni sawa kwa mtu anayekwambia kwamba una tongotongo Usoni wewe kumjibu kwamba mbona na wewe shati lako hujalinyoosha kwa pasi?

Sasa watu wenyewe wametoa tuhuma bila kuanika ushahidi waliodai wanao unategemea watajibiwaje mitandaoni?

 

[Allen Kilewella]

Sasa watu wenyewe wametoa tuhuma bila kuanika ushahidi waliodai wanao unategemea watajibiwaje mitandaoni?

Umesema kwamba serikali imesema hajijapewa taarifa rasmi. Lakini ile ni taarifa kwa umma ila anayetuhumiwa ni kiongozi wa serikali. Msando angesaidia zaidi kusema kwamba Makonda hahusiki na siyo kusema Marekani na wenyewe siyo wasafi.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Americans can accuse whoever they wish to accuse, but one thing they always leave behind is the evidence. Even in the American justice system, no prosecutor or defence team will take a case without enough evidence. Human rights issues are everywhere, no one is perfect, from Guantanamo to Vatican. All human rights issues in Tanzania are supposed to be addressed by Tanzanians themselves, if we were to let everyone bring their idea of how we should live our lives, will end with Tanzania of them rather than Tanzania for us. I'm sure even they they won't listen to anyone telling them how to live