Hawana hoja ni watu mufilisi upstairs...kwa kufikiria watz na wale wa 40s you divert their attention by telling them any nonsense stuff and they will take.
Nyerere hakuwa malaika ni wazi kuna sehemu fulani huenda alikosea (tena mind you kama ni hivyo haikuwa kwa makusudi kama leo hii kwenye issue ya umeme) so kwanini hao wanaodai mapungufu ya Nyerere wasiboreshe na kusonga mbele hapo wanapo m-criticise kama hao watu ni objective kweli?
I hope Mzee Mwanakijiji will read this thread and come up with his reaction to this claim of critisizing JKN. I've always had so much respect for Mwanakijiji and his political views and analysis regardless whether I do agree with him or not. Mzee Mwanakijiji, I need to hear from you on this
jamani hakuna jipya hapa; madai yote mawili yanayotolewa dhidi ya Nyerere hana ya ukweli:
a. Upande wa Pili wa Nyerere (mapungufu) yameandikwa kwa kirefu kuanzia miaka ya sitini. Hakuna kiongozi wa Tanzania aliyekosolewa na kubainishwa mapungufu yake ya kisera na kiuongozi kama Nyerere. None.
b. Nyerere hakufanya makosa; hakuna mtetezi yeyote wa Nyerere mwenye akili timamu ambaye amewahi kudai kuwa Nyerere hakufanya makosa. Hata yeye mwenyewe hakuwahi kudai kuwa hajakosea (ushahidi umewekwa hapa wa kutosha) na siyo leo tu, ndiye kiongozi pekee wa TAnzania aliyeandika kitu kinachoitwa "Tujisahihishe" wakati mwingine natamani niiweke hapa ili watu wajue kuwa Nyerere hakuwa na mashaka na kukosolewa wala kujikosoa as a leader!
So.. hizi myths za kuwa Nyerere hakupenda kukosolewa au Nyerere alitukuzwa sana hazina msingi katika historia.
Naomba kutofautiana nawe kuhusu hicho kipengele A.Hizo criticism za Nyerere zilifanywa zaidi nje ya Tanzania ilhali ikibinywa Watanzania wasizisikie.Na waliodiriki kumkosoa bayana,they lived to regret.Hadi Nyerere anaondoka madarakani,sio tu ilitafsiriwa matusi makubwa kumkosoa bali pia hakukuwa na jukwaa la kufanya hivyo.Kwa bahati mbaya au makusudi,hadi leo "imani" hiyo bado ni hai miongoni mwa wengi-kama anavyotuthibitishia Bwana Kambota- kuwa kumkosoa Nyerere ni kama kumkosoa Mungu au Mitume wake.
Labda pengine katika kuthibitisha hoja yako kuwa "hizo myths kuwa Nyerere hakupenda kukosolewa au Nyerere alitukuzwa sana hazina msingi katika historia" ungeweza kutusaidia kwa kutupa mifano hai (na ya msingi) ya internal criticisms kwa Nyerere wakati wa utawala wake.
Na japo myths (ambazo kwa mtizamo wetu wengine ni facts) zinaweza kuwa HAZINA MSINGI haimaanishi kuwa HAZINA MAANA (ie kisicho na msingi kwa fulani sio lazima kisiwe na maana kwa mwengine)
Halfu hoja ya uchokozi tu: binafsi naamini tatizo la maendeleo ya Afrika halijawahi kuwa katika MANENO MATAMU (ikiwa ni pamoja na KUKIRI MAPUNGUFU japo kwa nadra).Je,na hii ni hoja isiyo na msingi sana,hudhani kuwa kuandika kitabu TUJISAHIHISHE ilhali Nyerere mwenyewe hakujisahihisha hata pale alipoona amekosea,sio mbinu ya kusambaza mapungufu yake binafsi ili yaonekane ni ya wengi na si mtu mmoja?
Na je kushindwa kufanikiwa kwa Ujamaa (ambao naamini ni mfumo bora lakini ulifeli katika utekelezaji) hakuwezi kutafsiriwa kama miongoni mwa failures za Nyerere?Na katika same line of thinking,wananaoamini kuwa kung'atuka kwa Nyerere 1995 kulipaswa kuendana na public apology kwa Watanzania (hususan wale waliohamishwa kwa nguvu kupelekw sehemu zisizofaa kwa uzalishaji mali baada ya kuporwa their only means of production) nao hawana hoja ya msingi?
Namsubiri engineer bukuku hapa
Yeah, and Businessman Raj Patel. It sounds good.The Boss, please help me to understand when and why people are referred to as "Engineer...so and so".
I've heard and am aware of the titles or prefixes like Sir, Dr. Prof. Ambassador etc, but not engineer Ahamedinajad or Engineer Mark Mwandosya....What's gonna be next, Journalist Ulimwengu? Entomologist Kweka, Geologist Mbise, Sociologist Mkwasa, Hair Stylist Mwajuma, Barber Hassani or Accountant Hussein?????
Yeah, and Businessman Raj Patel. It sounds good.
Now you have!Never heard a businessman is being referred with the prefix or title like Businessman Donald Trump or Businessman Mustafa Sabodo
Truth is the daughter of Time. Hata kama tutatumia nguvu nyingi kiasi gani kumchafua na kumponda J.K Nyerere kwa vigezo tofauti tofauti vyenye maudhui ya udini ndani yake, spirit yake bado itasuta dhamira zetu na kutaka kurudi katika misingi ya utawala bora yenye dhamira ya kumkomboa mtanzania mnyonge. Ikiwa taifa hili halitarejea katika misingi bora ya utawala aliyoiasisi J.K Nyerere basi umaskini utakuwa ni muendelezo wa historia ya vizazi na vizazi. Truth is the daughter of Time.