Uturuki yajuta kutungua ndege ya urusi

Uturuki yajuta kutungua ndege ya urusi

Turkey sio size ya Putin kabisa ,Putin na wamarekani ndio wapo kwenye League Moja

Haswaa lakini nasema bado putin ameonyesha ubabe,kwani kila akiwekewa vikwazo anaruka na hana washirika wengi kama marekani lakini licha ya yote hayo bado serikali ya washington inakosa uaingizi kwa serikali ya moscow
 
Mrusi atulie kama hana la kufanya na awache mikwara. Ndege zake zimetunguliwa na hajafanya lolote na mashabiki wake humu JF wanatuambia eti anafanya timing.

Ulitaka afanye nini? Urusi kuamua kuingia vitani siyo kitu kidogo! Usidhani in kama ugomvi was mitaani na watu wakapata burudani bila Malipo? Urusi kuingia vitani maana yake maelfu ya watu wafe! Maelfu ya majumba yaharibiwe na maelfu wawe walimbizi! Putin hawezi kuamua hayo kwa ajili ya kudhihirisha tu uwezo wake na kufurahisha mashabiki wake!
Urusi akitia timu popote pale marekani hawezi kusogea! maana na yeye anajua akisogea madhara yake ni makubwa! Mataifa hayo yanaheshimiana kwa kujua hakuna anayeweza kumtisha mwenzake!
Kumbuka urusi alivamia na kuimega Crimea na Marekani hakufanya kitu zaidi ya kulalamika na kuweka vikwazo vya kiuchumi!
 
Hardly. No one is in a hurry to start a war.
I actually think Putin can blow up Turkey and all the west will do is alienate Russia economically.

the reason Russia is not going to rush into war is because NATO is right in his front yard, and Turkey is their 'chambo' if you understand my logic. because there is NO way Turkey will b stupid to down Russian fighter jet, Turkey is no match to Russia, so you got to look at it in a wider perspective.

US have been longing for fist fight with Russian for quite sometime, since Ukraine, Crimea, Black Sea, Assad support, Syria involvement.. Russia is piling up his offenses and US are looking for a reason to a boxing match.

if it was Bush days, there will be a war by now with all that nosey and cocky Russia behaviour but OB is trying to be the grown up and very restrained to say the least
 
the reason Russia is not going to rush into war is because NATO is right in his front yard, and Turkey is their 'chambo' if you understand my logic. because there is NO way Turkey will b stupid to down Russian fighter jet, Turkey is no match to Russia, so you got to look at it in a wider perspective.

US have been longing for fist fight with Russian for quite sometime, since Ukraine, Crimea, Black Sea, Assad support, Syria involvement.. Russia is piling up his offenses and US are looking for a reason to a boxing match.

if it was Bush days, there will be a war by now with all that nosey and cocky Russia behaviour but OB is trying to be the grown up and very restrained to say the least
well said bro-i know that is well known to the Russian too,that's why Puttin is turning in economic embargoes,and the same reason make Turkish president withhold his apology.If Russian were unaware of this truth,Turkey could have been in chaos long ago.NATO are orchestrating all this sort of games in order to trap Russian and brand them as oppressor.I know its hard for Puttin to to keep his tail between his legs,but for sure he don't have option,NATO is watching every step,and Putin is not ready for another embarrassment
 
well said bro-i know that is well known to the Russian too,that's why Puttin is turning in economic embargoes,and the same reason make Turkish president withhold his apology.If Russian were unaware of this truth,Turkey could have been in chaos long ago.NATO are orchestrating all this sort of games in order to trap Russian and brand them as oppressor.I know its hard for Puttin to to keep his tail between his legs,but for sure he don't have option,NATO is watching every step,and Putin is not ready for another embarrassment

yes, Russians are clever that's why they have probably seen a trap on Turkey and decided to let it slip.

Also, after Russia was expelled from G8, all other remaining members (G7) have alienated her, so its not just NATO and EU and US, all other super powers will descend on him if she trips into these traps, and Putin can't afford to lose a war, that will be a last straw for economically hard hit Russians.
 
well said. UTURUKI ikishaangamizwa kwa dakika moja ndio WWIII itaanza . Yaani wakati vita hivo vya tatu vya vinaanza UTURUKI itakuwa tayari imefutwa kwenye ramani ya dunia.
 
Putin cannot loose this war..no body would loose this war actually..no body would live to tell who lost the war...wote (read: dunia nzima) tutaangamia..so ukiona Putin anajibu mapigo asymmetrically ujue yuko smart sana

yes, Russians are clever that's why they have probably seen a trap on Turkey and decided to let it slip.

Also, after Russia was expelled from G8, all other remaining members (G7) have alienated her, so its not just NATO and EU and US, all other super powers will descend on him if she trips into these traps, and Putin can't afford to lose a war, that will be a last straw for economically hard hit Russians.
 
Mrusi atulie kama hana la kufanya na awache mikwara. Ndege zake zimetunguliwa na hajafanya lolote na mashabiki wake humu JF wanatuambia eti anafanya timing.

Wewee, tulizana mzee, ni muda wa modern day socialists, an era of offsprings of them forefathers that believed in socialism.
Watch this space
 
Mimi ninanvyofahamau Mrusi na Mmarekani huwa wanakubaliana mambo Fulani. Usije shangaa mrusi akamfundisha adabu mturuki na mmarekani asifanya kitu akalaani tu.
 
Mrusi atulie kama hana la kufanya na awache mikwara. Ndege zake zimetunguliwa na hajafanya lolote na mashabiki wake humu JF wanatuambia eti anafanya timing.

Kwa taarifa yako mrusi anafaa much kila kitu na nani amepanda nini. Walioiangusha sukhoi 24 bomber ni CIA wanaenda na spetnaz, Walioiangusha ile ya kiraia kule sina ni hao hao CIA wakishirikisna na UK,SAUDI NA IS hao CIA wamekamatwa tayari YEMEN na Spetsnaz wamepeleka Moscow.
Soma habari hii hapo chini ya Sukhoi 24 bomber ile ya sisi nitakuletea baadae kidogo

Moscow-Warns CIA, Not-Turkey, Downed Russian Fighter Plane Over-Syria

By:-Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) on the downing of an-Aerospace Forces-Sukhoi Su-24M bomber aircraft-over Syria yesterday states that it was a deliberate act perpetrated by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) who were at the time of this catastrophe ?controlling/operating? aTurkish Air Force F-16 fighter jet-on a supposed to be photographic reconnaissance mission.

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According to this report, under the terms and provisions outlined in the 20 October agreement, whose full name is ?The Memorandum of Mutual Understanding between the Defense Ministries of Russia and the United States on preventing incidents and providing for aviation flights during operations in Syria?, Aerospace Forces conducting combat missions in the Levant War Zone over Syria were notified yesterday by US Air Force flight controllers operating out of Turkey?s-Incirlik Air Basethat a Turkish Air Force F-16 was operating near the Turkey-Syrian border.

US Air Force flight controllers in further clarifying the ?purpose/mission? of this Turkish Air Force F-16 flight, this report continues, stated to their Aerospace Forces counterparts that it was conducting a routine photographic reconnaissance flight for intelligence purposes?which this reports notes is always conducted under the direction of the CIA who mission is monitoring arms shipments from Turkey to Islamic State rebels in Syria.

Sensing no threat from this CIA operated Turkish Air Force F-16, this report says, an Aerospace Forces Su-24M bomber returning to its Syrian airbase with its two-Sukhoi Su-30-fighter plane escorts ?allowed/authorized? them to accelerate towards their base due to low fuel issues and increased its flight altitude to 6,000 meters (19,685 feet) to prevent attacks from ground based fired missiles as per its procedures.-

Immediately upon the Su-24M reaching the altitude of 6,000 meters, this report grimly states, and without its Su-30 escorts able to protect it, the CIA directed Turkish Air Force F-16 immediately went to hypersonic speed and fired three air-to-air missiles at the Aerospace Forces ?target? destroying this Federation bomber and causing its two pilots, Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Peshkov and Captain Konstantin Murahtin, to safely eject from their now destroyed plane.

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After safely ejecting from their destroyed bomber plane, this report continues, Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov and Captain Murahtin, when nearing the ground, were then shot at by Islamic State terrorists who in doing so committed a grave war crime?and which killed Lieutenant Colonel Peshkov whose attackers celebrated his death.

Captain Murahtin, however, this report says, was-able to be saved-when the Su-30 escorts returned and provided covering fire to protect him?and who, also, provided air cover for the Aerospace Forces helicopters sent to rescue him.

Of the three Aerospace Forces helicopters sent to rescue Captain Murahtin however, MoD experts in this report say, one was destroyed by a-US-missile fired by Islamic State terrorists killing Naval Infantry Soldier (Marine) Alexandr Pozynich.-

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With MoD satellite data proving that the Su-24M bomber was about 1,000 meters (3,280 feet) in Syrian airspace when it was shot down, this report continues, Turkey then ?absurdly? claimed that it had violated its airspace up to a depth of 2.19 kilometers (1.36 miles) for about 17 seconds and had been warned to change its heading 10 times?which would have been impossible as a normal plane-to-plane single ?communication transfer? takes at least 45 seconds to occur.

Also, this report notes, with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan stating in 2012 that a ?short-term border violation can never be a pretext for attack?, this disaster became even more bizarre when Turkey yesterday, in a letter to the UN Security Council, openly stated that it had shot down the Su-24M and even admitted it had-ordered the attack on the rescue mission for the downed pilots.

Though Prime Minister Erdogan-has yet to contact President Putin, this report says, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov did discuss this disaster with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu, who-assured Russia that Turkey wants to preserve friendly ties with Moscow, and to which Minister Lavrov replied that-the Federation was not planning a war against Turkey.

Based on the MoD analysis in this report though, Foreign Minister Lavrov further stated: ?We have serious doubts that this act was unintentional. It looks very much like a preplanned provocation.?

MoD intelligence experts in this report further support Minister Lavrov by noting it was not a coincidence that a Turkish film crew captured this shootdown either as they were most likely tipped off to be at the right place at the right time?a-fact undisputed by even American observers.

Critical to note too, this report says, this disaster occurred just days after Turkish officials warned Russia to ?immediately end its operation? against these Islamic State terrorists?and which we, in our 23 November report,-Putin Declares ISIS On ?Brink Of Total Defeat?, Warns NATO War Has Been ?Total Lie?, noted the MoD?s grave concerns by stating: ?To if the United States led NATO will intervene to protect their Islamic State allies against total defeat and risk World War III with Russia and China, this report warns, is the greatest unanswered question now facing the Federation.?

With the CIA having now plotted with certain elements within Turkey to provoke a larger war, this report concludes, President Putin-ordered this morning-that the previous agreement with the United States is now suspended and that the much feared-S-400 defense missile system-will now be deployed to the Hmeymim airbase in Syria?whose missiles have a range of 250 kilometers (155 miles)-[the Turkish border, at its closest, is less than 50 miles away],-and when combined with the airspace defense provided by the-Moskva naval cruiser, will now spell certain death for any other Turkish-CIA-NATO aircraft should they ever again attempt to target a Federation warplane.--

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November 23, 2015 ? EU and-US-all rights reserved.-Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under-CC-BY-and-GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the-Sisters of Sorcha Faalstrongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth.--Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ?agents? against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the
 
Mrusi atulie kama hana la kufanya na awache mikwara. Ndege zake zimetunguliwa na hajafanya lolote na mashabiki wake humu JF wanatuambia eti anafanya timing.

Hii hapa ya wale CIA waliokamatwa na makomandoo wa kirusi huko Yemen na kusafirishwa hadi Moscow

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November 12, 2015

Obama Murders Flight 9268 Plotters, Threatens-Russia-Olympic Ban If Truth Told

By:-Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

In what can only be described in-Orwellian-terms, a new Foreign Intelligence Report (SVR) circulating in the Kremlin today states that the Obama regime has relegated to ?unperson? status three American mercenaries believed to be plotters in the shooting down of Flight 9268 over-Egypt-that became the-worst aviation disaster in Russian history.

Even worse, this report continues, the Federation has been ?strongly notified? by the Obama regime that if it doesn?t ?cooperate? Western storyline that Flight 9268 was brought down by a bomb, Russian athletes will banned from participating in the-2016 Olympic Games in Rio.

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As we have previously exhaustively detailed in our previous reports on this terrorist caused catastrophe (Islamic State Shootdown Of Russian Plane ?Will Be Avenged? Vows Russia,-Russian Plane Shootdown Now Labeled ?Political Event? As Putin Orders Nuclear War Readiness,-Daring Raid Captures CIA ?Assets? Who Downed Russian Plane In Egypt-andRussian Emissary Death In US Spurs Flight To Moscow Of Plane Shootdown Terrorists), the destruction of Flight 9268 has been conclusively linked by Russian intelligence services to an Islamic State terror cell financed by Saudi Arabia that was operating in the Sinai under ?orders and procedures? dictated from a secret American base operating in Yemen.

The knowledge of this Islamic State-Saudi Arabia-United States ?plot? to destroy Flight 9268, the SVR had previously reported, was first uncovered back in August when these terrorist forces attempted to down a British based Thomas Airways flight approaching this area with 189 persons on board that had been ?electronically manipulated? and then-fired upon by a surface-to-air missile?which the pilot was able to evasively maneuver away from with this missile just missing his plane by 1,000 feet.

Even though no Western intelligence agency bothered to inform either Russia, Egypt or the public about this attempted August shootdown of this Thomas Airways flight, the SVR had stated, Federation Aerospace Forces had detected from their satellite detection devices the ?signature? of this missile being fired and its ?communication/association? with Yemen.

Once the ?communication/association? between the Islamic State terrorists operating in the Sinai andYemen-was established, the SVR had, also, previously reported, SVR intelligence analysts and Spetsnaz (Special Forces) personal were dispatched to-Yemen-in an effort to find the secret base from which this plot was being masterminded.

In the days just prior to the 31 October destruction of Flight 9268, this report continues, one of the American contractors under the surveillance of these SVR-Spetsnaz personal in Yemen was captured and after ?questioning/interrogation? revealed strategic information, after which he was released.

On 31 October itself, this report grimly notes, and based upon the strategic information given by the American contractor, SVR-Spetsnaz personal in Yemen were able to ?secure/penetrate? the secret American base directing the shootdown of Flight 9268 capturing two additional American contractors while another two escaped fleeing to Saudi Arabia and then to Jordan.

With the two American contractors captured by SVR-Spetsnaz personal being flown back to Moscow for further ?examination?, this report says, the first American contractor that was captured and released has now been reported dead, along with the two American contractors who fled Yemen to Saudi Arabia and then to Jordan.

US media reports that the name of the American contractor first captured by SVR-Spetsnaz personal in Yemen was-John Hamen, who was a former Communications Observer at the US Special Operations Command Air Force Base in Florida?and whom the US State Department states they don?t know the ?cause/reason? for his death.

US-media reports further state, this report says, that the names of the other two American contractors who fled-Yemen-before being captured by SVR-Spetsnaz personal were-Lloyd Fields Jr.-and-Damon Creach?both of whom, likewise, were said by the Obama regime to have been-killed in Jordan-when fired upon by a Jordanian policeman.-

Critical to note about both Lloyd Fields Jr. and Damon Creach, this report continues, were that they were both mercenaries employed by the secretive private American intelligence company known as---DynCorp International-that describes itself as being able to provide flight operations support, training and mentoring, international development, intelligence training and support, contingency operations, and security, and whose ?flight/radar manipulation? equipment was captured at the Yemen base that brought down Flight 9268.

So thoroughly and completely has the Obama regime gone in turning these American mercenaries into ?unpersons?, this report sadly notes, the families of two of them have had to resort to begging to bury them and feed their children?and as the GoFundMe pages for-John Hamen-and-Damon Creach-prove.

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Damon Creach and family

As the Obama regime continues its massive cover-up of its complicity in the shooting down of Flight 9268, this report notes, the continuing ?investigation/examination? of this catastrophe by SVR intelligence analysts appears to show that these murdered American contractors believed they were conducting an ?exercise/testprovoking/deceiving? this Russian plane with 224 people on board to a lower altitude so that it could be destroyed by an Islamic State missile.

And in a confirmation of this fact, this report further states, the Obama regime this week, through its ?intelligence channelshighly suggested? that the Federation accept the ?story/fabrication? of Flight 9268 being downed by a bomb, otherwise Russian athletes will be banned from participating in next years Olympic Games because of their alleged doping?a complete falsehood as the facts of Russian athlete drug testing proves it is now, and always has been,-under the control of the Olympic organization itself and has nothing to do at all with the Federation.---

With the entire-Obama regime Syria strategy being to overthrow the government to get a pipeline through to Europe from Saudi Arabia to compete with Russiaand reduce its economy with regard to the natural gas it sells to Europe, and the United States and its allies cutting a deal with Islamic State terrorist ?not to touch the civilian aircraft of the Western Coalition?, this report concludes, nothing shows the deceptive arrogance of this monstrous regime more than while at the same time forcing the families of its soldiers/mercenaries to beg for money to bury them, US Army combat helicopters were filmed this week providing air cover for a massive Islamic State convoy heading into Syria from Iraq.

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November 12, 2015 ? EU and US all rights reserved.-Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under-CC-BY-and-GFDL.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the-Sisters of Sorcha Faalstrongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth.--Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ?agents? against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report-

Source. WhatDoesItMean.Com.
 
yes, Russians are clever that's why they have probably seen a trap on Turkey and decided to let it slip.

Also, after Russia was expelled from G8, all other remaining members (G7) have alienated her, so its not just NATO and EU and US, all other super powers will descend on him if she trips into these traps, and Putin can't afford to lose a war, that will be a last straw for economically hard hit Russians.
hii game imewapata wachezaji,maana both Putin and Erdogan have tendency of boosting their egos and stand firm in their conscience,but for this sounds more like a game of chicken,because Putin has already let it go

Putin cannot loose this war..no body would loose this war actually..no body would live to tell who lost the war...wote (read: dunia nzima) tutaangamia..so ukiona Putin anajibu mapigo asymmetrically ujue yuko smart sana
Putin isn't that smarter,sema situation imemfanya awe hivyo-if you go back,during cold war,China once accused USSR of being a toothless dragon,kwenye standoff nyingi alizokutana na USA(NATO)ali-quit,na akawapa wakati mgumu socialist bloc wenzake.so if USSR never tried,there is no way Putin will even think of it.ndo maana anaplay game of chicken
 
hii game imewapata wachezaji,maana both Putin and Erdogan have tendency of boosting their egos and stand firm in their conscience,but for this sounds more like a game of chicken,because Putin has already let it go


Putin isn't that smarter,sema situation imemfanya awe hivyo-if you go back,during cold war,China once accused USSR of being a toothless dragon,kwenye standoff nyingi alizokutana na USA(NATO)ali-quit,na akawapa wakati mgumu socialist bloc wenzake.so if USSR never tried,there is no way Putin will even think of it.ndo maana anaplay game of chicken

Viongozi wa kisoviet ya kisoshalist (pamoja na counter part wao waamerika) walikuwa na akili timamu sana.. Rejea migogoro yote iliyowahusisha na mataifa yenye nyuklia kama wao.. Mfano rahisi ni mgogoro wao na Marekani walipotaka kuweka makombora yao ya nyuklia Cuba ya Fidel Castro.. Kwenye moment kama hizo kuna kitu kinaitwa MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION yaani wote attacker na defender watateketea hivyo hakuna anayejaribu kumshambulia mwenzie na amani inakuwepo. Putin ni smart amekulia ujasusini na vyote hivyo anavijua.. So reaction yake haitakuwa ya kukurupuka..
 
Viongozi wa kisoviet ya kisoshalist (pamoja na counter part wao waamerika) walikuwa na akili timamu sana.. Rejea migogoro yote iliyowahusisha na mataifa yenye nyuklia kama wao.. Mfano rahisi ni mgogoro wao na Marekani walipotaka kuweka makombora yao ya nyuklia Cuba ya Fidel Castro.. Kwenye moment kama hizo kuna kitu kinaitwa MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION yaani wote attacker na defender watateketea hivyo hakuna anayejaribu kumshambulia mwenzie na amani inakuwepo. Putin ni smart amekulia ujasusini na vyote hivyo anavijua.. So reaction yake haitakuwa ya kukurupuka..
Putin hana ujanja-hio MUAD ilikuja baada ya ku.evaluate power ya nuclear armed submarines,ambapo bado hapo us wamewazid russia,russin kwa ufupi bado ana kazi kubwa sana
 
Putin hana ujanja-hio MUAD ilikuja baada ya ku.evaluate power ya nuclear armed submarines,ambapo bado hapo us wamewazid russia,russin kwa ufupi bado ana kazi kubwa sana

Sijaelewa hapa unajaribu ku communicate nini
 
Naomba upitie vyema hio theory ya mutual assured destruction(MUAD)

Naifahamu kiongozi ndo maana nimeiweka kwa maelezo. Sijaelewa hapo tunapishana wapi. Ni kuwa Urusi haimo tena kwenye list ya MAD ama Putin hana balls za kujaribu hiyo kitu ama nn ndo ilikuwa swali langu
 
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