Tujadili: .....Unconditional love....

Michelle · Mar 26, 2013

Kaunga said:
Nakubaliana nanyi kuwa hakuna penzi lisilo na sababu; kwani moja ya sababu universally ni "agizo la Mwenyezi Mungu" kwa agape love, na hata kwa He-She relationship ni kwasababu "you like each other enough to want to be together" pamoja na intimacy, security, kupata watoto etc.
Sasa tukirudi kuhusu dhana ya 'bila masharti', je pengine ni baadhi ya hizo sababu ndizo zinazalisha hizo conditions? mfano, nahitaji financial security; si nitalazimika kuweka kipato as kigezo (sharti); au kama mbaba anataka watoto basi age ya mtarajiwa si muhimu hata kama yeye ni mbabu?

Sio wote wanapenda wakimuwaza Mungu,kwamba ni agizo lake,wala watoto. nakubaliana na wewe kwamba sababu ndo zinaweza kuwa zinaleta conditions ila kuna wakati unakuwa na sababu na wala hizo sababu sizo zinazokufanya uwe na huyo mtu. Naweza kuwa nataka mwanaume mkristo,haina maana kwa kuwa mtu ni mkristo na mwanaume atakuwa wangu,kuna vitu vingine vinavyoelezeka na visivyoelezeka vinavyonifanya niwe na mtu na nisiwe na mtu mwingine ambaye pengine wana baadhi ya qualities wamefanana.

EMT · Mar 26, 2013

Mwali said:
This presupposes kua unaamua kutafuta mpenzi kwa sababu fulani fulani, hivo unaweka conditions ili ufikie malengo yako.
But kuna case ambapo hutafuti kitu, unakutana na mtu and you feel attracted. Hapa maybe kuna uwezekano wa unconditional love but it wont take long before ulete conditions, angalau zile zenye kuimarisha sustainability ya mahusiano.

Especially when there is difference between attraction, love and probably affection.

Hata attraction ni conditional. Why would one be attracted to A but not B?

There must be a reason for attraction.

Tuko · Mar 26, 2013

Unconditional love is the Natural love... haya macondition tunayowekeana siku hizi, sijui ela, kisomo, imani nk yanafanya artificial love...

EMT · Mar 26, 2013

Kaunga said:
Thanks EMT ingawa nimepata tabu kupata kile Tupac anarap imebidi nitafute maneno yake, ngoja niyaweke hapa in case kuna mwingine mzito kama mimi. LOL

Yaani wewe ni mwanafunzi mzuri sana. lol.

Inaonyesha umelielewa somo.

This is what is called "unconditional love"

Especially when that person keeps making miracles to you.

Even when you act crazy, the person will still love you regardless.

Hivi si nilikuwa nimeaga hapa? Haya class dismissed. lol

Tized · Mar 26, 2013

Mkuu nadhani hakuna uhusiano wa moja kwa moja kati ya uzuri wa mtu wa nje na machaguo ya moyo wake lakini sifa ndio huinua kiburi ndani ya mtu na kujiona hastahili kuwa na mtu flani au flani. Deep down to ze heart hakuna hayo makitu. hujawahi kuona couple flani ukajiuliza labda hyu mzuri hivi kampendea nini huyo??

I believe unconditional love exist, If you cant give reasons as to why you love someone, Thats unconditional, But if you have any angle, its materialistic. Bahati mbaya nyingine ikatokea mtu kampenda mwenzake ki-hivyo anaonekana tena zombie, ptuuu, complications over complicateds, Hahaaaaa:nono::nono:

Speaker said:
Ipo,Ipo kabisa.
Kuna dada ana nipenda sana,tumekua wote for 6years.
hatuku fanikiwa kuoana sababu zilizo nje ya uwezo wangu.

Lakini bado ana nipenda sana,sistahili kupendwa nae,she'z cute sana.
Ana stahili kuwa na ma-HB huko,sio sura ya kazi kama mimi,lakini ana
nipenda hadi kesho kutwa.

Kila niki tafakari upendo wake,(tofauti na ule wa Yesu,na upendo wa mama),..
huu wake pia nauita UNCONDITIONAL love.

Najua hatutaoana,lakini najua hata nitakae muoa hato nipenda kama huyu binti.

Unconditional love exists,tena sana tu,i have experienced it.

Zion Daughter · Mar 26, 2013

Mokoyo said:
Na huyu atakuwa shahidi mzuri sana, ona anavyotoa mwongozo

Ha haaaa..Asije akawa anakutega akufelishe..shauri yako..afu tumekubaliana mimi ndio nakutest wewe not the other way.Na kwa kuanzia ngoja niweke picha yangu hapa iwe test namba moja..

Michelle · Mar 26, 2013

Tized said:
Mkuu nadhani hakuna uhusiano wa moja kwa moja kati ya uzuri wa mtu wa nje na machaguo ya moyo wake lakini sifa ndio huinua kiburi ndani ya mtu na kujiona hastahili kuwa na mtu flani au flani. Deep down to ze heart hakuna hayo makitu. hujawahi kuona couple flani ukajiuliza labda hyu mzuri hivi kampendea nini huyo??

I believe unconditional love exist, If you cant give reasons as to why you love someone, Thats unconditional, But if you have any angle, its materialistic. Bahati mbaya nyingine ikatokea mtu kampenda mwenzake ki-hivyo anaonekana tena zombie, ptuuu, complications over complicateds, Hahaaaaa:nono::nono:

Define angle and materialistic tafadhali, mfano,mimi nampenda mtu kwa kuwa ni msabato na ninaamini wasabato ni wacha Mungu, is that materialitic?

Kaunga · Mar 26, 2013

Tized said:
Mkuu nadhani hakuna uhusiano wa moja kwa moja kati ya uzuri wa mtu wa nje na machaguo ya moyo wake lakini sifa ndio huinua kiburi ndani ya mtu na kujiona hastahili kuwa na mtu flani au flani. Deep down to ze heart hakuna hayo makitu. hujawahi kuona couple flani ukajiuliza labda hyu mzuri hivi kampendea nini huyo??

I believe unconditional love exist, If you cant give reasons as to why you love someone, Thats unconditional, But if you have any angle, its materialistic. Bahati mbaya nyingine ikatokea mtu kampenda mwenzake ki-hivyo anaonekana tena zombie, ptuuu, complications over complicateds, Hahaaaaa:nono::nono:

In black wengine wanasema hakuna kupenda kusiko kuwa na sababu nami kwa kiwango kikubwa nakubaliana nao.

In red, inasikitisha sana hasa hilo jina la Zombie. Ndio hao wanaofikia hatua za kujiondoa uhai nini?

Kaunga · Mar 26, 2013

EMT said:
Yaani wewe ni mwanafunzi mzuri sana. lol.

Inaonyesha umelielewa somo.

This is what is called "unconditional love"

Especially when that person keeps making miracles to you.

Even when you act crazy, the person will still love you regardless.

Hivi si nilikuwa nimeaga hapa? Haya class dismissed. lol

Kwa maneno hayo, nakubaliana na wanaosema unconditional love inawezekana kwa mzazi na mtoto tu; maana those worlds are to sweet to be edible.

Bamukunda · Mar 26, 2013

Kaunga said:
In black wengine wanasema hakuna kupenda kusiko kuwa na sababu nami kwa kiwango kikubwa nakubaliana nao. In red, inasikitisha sana hasa hilo jina la Zombie. Ndio hao wanaofikia hatua za kujiondoa uhai nini?

Hapa nakuunga mkono, sisahau enzi zetu (saa sita) tuliimba kuwa nitakupenda hadi bahari ya hindi ikauke (condition), siku ya harusi bwana harusi anaambiwa 'umemona hana kovu...." (condition), akikushinda mrudishe n.k. Nyie mnaambizana,..... utanitunza? ....Hutanipiga n.k. Tukirejea katika mada yako hakuna urafiki usiokuwa na faida kwa kila upande, hivyo hakuna mapenzi yasiyokuwa na faida kwa wapenzi. Faida zikikosekana hapo hapo kila mtu na lwake.

Tized · Mar 26, 2013

Nami nakubaliana na wewe, Ila ukishaona sababu (angle of interest ie upole, mali, uzuri, ubaya, fame etc) ina maana hio anle ikiondoka, inaondoka na upendo; huo ni upendo lakini sio agape 'unconditional'

Hebu soma hapa uone maana na mfano halisi ya unconditional love
Romans 8:38''For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, [SUP]39 [/SUP]neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord''. Do you get the angle of interest here?

Kaunga said:
In black wengine wanasema hakuna kupenda kusiko kuwa na sababu nami kwa kiwango kikubwa nakubaliana nao.

In red, inasikitisha sana hasa hilo jina la Zombie. Ndio hao wanaofikia hatua za kujiondoa uhai nini?

Mokoyo · Mar 26, 2013

Zion Daughter said:
Na kwa kuanzia ngoja niweke picha yangu hapa iwe test namba moja..

anxiously waiting for this Zion Daughter

Kaunga · Mar 26, 2013

Tized said:
Nami nakubaliana na wewe, Ila ukishaona sababu (angle of interest ie upole, mali, uzuri, ubaya, fame etc) ina maana hio anle ikiondoka, inaondoka na upendo; huo ni upendo lakini sio agape 'unconditional'

Hebu soma hapa uone maana na mfano halisi ya unconditional love
Romans 8:38''For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, [SUP]39 [/SUP]neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord''. Do you get the angle of interest here?

Ya Paulo kwa Yesu Kristu nakubaliana nayo, but why? Coz aliuona utukufu wa Yesu au waweza kusema aliiona KWELI alipoongolewa; maana Saulo by then (kabla ya kumuona Yesu Mfufuka) alikuwa anaamini kile alichokuwa anapigania hadi kuwadhulumu wakristu wa kwanza ndio ukweli au dini ya kweli. Hivyo he was in quest for TRUTH, na l think l can safely say kuwasababu ya kumpenda Yesu that much ni kwakuwa ndiye Mungu na anategemea kushiriki utukufu pamoja na malaika mbinguni mwisho utakapowadia. Ni kweli mwl EMT? am l still being my best au nishapotea.

Tamatheo · Mar 26, 2013

Naamini love hiyo ipo ila ni ya upande mmoja zaidi, very rear kukuta pande mbili za shilingi zina malove ya aina hii. Ndio maana kunaibuka kapewa limbwata, kalishwa......kalogwa n.k

Tized · Mar 26, 2013

Well Said,

Hivyo basi, wa kawida ulipaswa uwe hivi
Rum12:
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Upendo wenu uwe wa kweli. [SUP]10 [/SUP]Pendaneni ninyi kwa ninyi kwa upendo wa kindugu. Waheshimuni wengine kuliko mnavyojiheshimu wenyewe. [SUP]13 [/SUP].... Muwe wakarimu kwa matendo.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Waombeeni baraka za Mungu wanaowatesa. Wabarikini wala msiwalaani. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Furahini pamoja na wenye furaha; huzunikeni pamoja na wenye huzuni. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Muishi kwa amani ninyi kwa ninyi. Msitake makuu bali muwe tayari kushirikiana na wanyonge. Kamwe msiwe watu wenye majivuno.

Kama tunaagizwa kupendana hivi kwa udugu, Upendo wa mtu na mke si zaidi ya huu? It seems difficult eeh! But thanks for raising such a mind challenging matter!

Kaunga said:
Ya Paulo kwa Yesu Kristu nakubaliana nayo, but why? Coz aliuona utukufu wa Yesu au waweza kusema aliiona KWELI alipoongolewa; maana Saulo by then (kabla ya kumuona Yesu Mfufuka) alikuwa anaamini kile alichokuwa anapigania hadi kuwadhulumu wakristu wa kwanza ndio ukweli au dini ya kweli. Hivyo he was in quest for TRUTH, na l think l can safely say kuwasababu ya kumpenda Yesu that much ni kwakuwa ndiye Mungu na anategemea kushiriki utukufu pamoja na malaika mbinguni mwisho utakapowadia. Ni kweli mwl EMT? am l still being my best au nishapotea.

Speaker · Mar 26, 2013

Mokoyo said:
wewe nawe Mkuu Speaker haujiamini tu, halafu mpaka leo una post 6,070 hujaoa unasubiri nini aisee???

Whaaat?
6070? Yaani nimeandika mara 6070 humu?
I should get money from that,.....ukifikisha post ngapi unapewa sh.ngapi
nianze kudai haki yangu.

MpangoA · Mar 26, 2013

Unconditional love is only found in the bible. The only person who can love you without any condition is your parent; however, this is also a matter of time.

Bamukunda · Mar 26, 2013

MpangoA said:
Unconditional love is only found in the bible. The only person who can love you without any condition is your parent; however, this is also a matter of time.

Think about unwanted pregnancies that results into children i.e. unwanted pregnancies for sure changes from time to time as per prevailing conditions at time t.

snowhite · Mar 26, 2013

unconditional love!
ipo i see!
ipo!
mathalan ushawahi kukaa na kujiuliza hv huyu nampendea nini?
yan u love somebody unafika moment u sit back and ask ur self why!how!
pengine ni mtu watu wengine au hata wewe mwenywe unaweza kuhisi sio karba yako lakini,we bana weeee !acha tu!
anafanya mauzauza kibao unabaki nampenda jamani
hafanyi mambo mengi tu unayoamini ndiyo tafsiri ya mtu akupendae anatakiwa kukufanyia,we nampenda tu!
anafail kwenye mengi sana kimaisha lakn bado u keep on believe in him/her
anakuangusha kwenye vitu vingi tu kama mke /mume/rafiki/ lakini unakiri kabisa moyoni mwako kuwa nampenda despite oll zis makitu yake
maanguko yake huwa hayakupi kichwa kuuma zaidi ya kukimbia wa kwanza kumuinua!
kushindwa kwake wala hakukufanyi uone kapungua kitu zaidi ya kuwa wa kwanza kumjenga zaid
madhaifu yake wala sio tija kiviiile u still trust in his/her one strength
HIS/HER ABILITY TO MAKE YU LOVE HER/HIM!.

Paloma · Mar 26, 2013

.....mh will have to go back and dig inside me if i still have it.....wrong ....if....unconditional love! WTF!!! I dunno banaa!!!
yeuuuuwi najiogopa!!!

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