Kama mna nguvu acheni kulalama basi. Na mbona masoko ya Ethiopia mnayatafuta bila kuhamasisha muungano wa IGAD? Sie hatuitaki EAC na sie tuna mbinu zetu za kufanya biashara sasa kama mnajiona nyie ndio mna nguvu mbona mnakesha kuijadili Tz? Umeona media za Tz zinapayuka kuhusu kenya?
Why not?What a gem this one is. The difference is the existence of the EAC treaty. Last time I checked Somalia was not part of EAC and Burundi was. IGAD does not guarantee free movement of people! Do you guys read what you write?:biggrin:
Why not?
The objectives of IGAD are to:
- Promote joint development strategies and gradually harmonize macro-economic policies and programmes in the social, technological and scientific fields;
- Harmonize policies with regard to trade, customs, transport, communications, agriculture, and natural resources, and promote free movement of goods, services, and people within the region.
- Create an enabling environment for foreign, cross-border and domestic trade and investment;
- Achieve regional food security and encourage and assist efforts of Member States to collectively combat drought and other natural and man-made disatsters and their natural consequences;
- Initiate and promote programmes and projects to achieve regional food security and sustainable development of natural resources and environment protection, and encourage and assist efforts of Member States to collectively combat drought and other natural and man-made disasters and their consequences;
- Develop and improve a coordinated and complementary infrastructure, in the areas of transport, telecommunications and energy in the region;
- Promote peace and stability in the region and create mechanisms within the region for the prevention, management and resolution of inter-State and intra-State conflicts through dialogue;
- Mobilize resources for the implementation of emergency, short-term, medium-term and long-term programmes within the framework of regional cooperation;
- Promote and realize the objectives of the Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA) and the African Economic Community;
- Facilitate, promote and strengthen cooperation in research development and application in science and technology
Intergovernmental Authority for Development (IGAD)
You see ur hypocrisy as a Kenyan? u should be ashamed, a cursed seed for sure!
r u reading on the same script with us? can u pls go to the IGAD website i begin to lambast u!? arghh!!! And how about COMESA? what defense do u give?what hypocrisy are you talking about? IGAD is more of a military oufit than a trading block. Any ceasefire is addressed through IGAD, read Eritrea and Sudan. No treaties have been signed to facilitate trade, its more of a vision as of now. Please revisit your current affairs lecture and understand the core function of some of this bodies.
r u reading on the same script with us? can u pls go to the IGAD website i begin to lambast u!? arghh!!! And how about COMESA? what defense do u give?
understand what a mission is and an objective. Objective is what you hope to achieve in the near future and i can tell you with utmost certainity that IGAD hasnt succeeded at being a trading block. However, it acts as a control to achieve this including the wider comesa objectives. Are you answered? Mark you we have no issues with comesa regions or feed me if any. I only know of sugar importation which we borrowed permision not to do so with an aim of protecting the sugar producing belt zones from imminent collapse. Anyway we are discussing EAC, how does IGAD fit in?
Summing Up!!!
Kenya's Economic Survey 2010 showed
Nairobi's exports to Addis Ababa stood at $
43.1 million while Kenya imported goods
worth $2.4 million.
Be thankful that u can trade with Tanzania instead of being a noise maker!
Kama kila kibaya chatoka Tz, nendeni kule kunapopatikana vitu vizuri, kwanini mwang'ang'ana??
but corruption is the highest trade barrier than weight bridges or id cards or traffic checkpoint or otherwise u r planning to destroy our roads by overweighing or export Mungiki robbers then tell us why are weight bridges and police checkups a hindrance to u! Do u think we forgot the wave of organized crime the Northern Tanzania city of Arusha and town of Moshi experienced from the "Mwangis" and the likes earlier 2000? Stupid report anyway....!
Pamoja na sie watz kuwa na matatizo ya kimsingi kama vile ufisadi, rushwa, miundombinu mibovu na mengineyo lakini mie naona tatizo la EAC ni tofauti za kitabia na kimtazamo kati ya wakenya na watanzania. Nionavyo wakenya waliaminishwa sana kuwa wao ni bora zaidi kuliko watanzania na wakaendelea kuamini hivyo kwa muda mrefu sana. Tatizo hilo lipo hata ndani ya kenya ambako wakikuyu wamejiona bora kuliko wengine na kufanikiwa kuwakalia wengine kwa miaka mingi.
Kwa miaka mingi wakenya waliamini kuwa ktk Afrika mashariki wao ndio wako juu na wanaweza kudrive nchi zingine vyovyote wanavyotaka. Walijisikia wanafanikiwa sana walipoona jumuiya imeanzishwa maana wakati huo waligundua kuwa njia pekee ya kenya kumaliza matatizo yake ni kushirikiana na TZ nchi ambayo awali hawakuona umuhimu wake. Wakati huo Tz ilikuwa ikiongozwa na mwandishi wa habari ambaye alikuwa akifanya maamuzi ya kikasuku, aliyefanya kazi ya kuiuza tanzania kwa juhudi kubwa bila hata tahadhari. Alishindwa hata kuona umuhimu wa kusukuma SADC ielekee kwenye shirikisho, akaamua kufuata upepo wa akina Moi kuanzisha jumuiya na watu waliojaa njaa, wajeuri, dharau na kiburi cha kuzaliwa.
Ukweli ni kuwa chuki za sasa kati ya wakenya na waTz zinatokana na mindset ya wakenya kuelekea kwa watz. Dawa yake ni kuanzisha program ya kuwaelimisha wakenya jinsi ya kuwa na staha kwa watu wengine na halafu watambue kuwa pamoja na kuwa Tz kwa sasa tuna uongozi mbovu lakini bado tunatambua kuwa tunatakiwa kulinda maslahi yetu ya kiuchumi, kijamii na kiusalama. Wakenya watarajie ushindani zaidi kiuchumi kutoka Tz kuliko kukumbatiana na kuungana, waendelee kuwaendesha hao wengine wasiowajua vizuri wakenya. Sie watanzania tunawaelewa vizuri wakenya na tunajua vizuri changamoto za muungano kuliko nchi yoyote EAC, na tunajijua vizuri zaidi sie kuliko wakenya wanavyotufahamu. Tunajua tulikotoka na jinsi kenya isivyoaminika na Tz haiwezi kurudia kosa.
Vyombo vya habari vya kenya viache kuiganda Tz kama luba vijikite kuelezea matatizo ya kenya kama vile ukabila, rushwa, ufisadi, ardhi, chokoraa lukuki walio kila mahali pamoja na tatizo la wanaume kupigwa na wake zao.
Kama wakenya wanahitaji sana ushirikiano wa kibiashara na wanaona kuwa EAC kuna vikwazo vingi basi waelekeze nguvu zao ktk IGAD huko watafanya biashara na somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan na Djibout.
Mkuu nakuhunga mkono, kama wanaona hatutaki ku-jump kwenye BANDWAGON YAO mbona hiyo ni kazi rahisi tu-watuache tulivyo, na sidhani kama nchi moja (TANZANIA) inaweza kuathili chochote katika ustawi wao na nchi nyingine za Africa Mashariki hakuna anaye wakataza kushirikiana nazo, wana uhuru wa kushirikiana na nchi zote hizo save TANZANIA. Mimi nisicho taka ni hizi tactics zao za ku-instigate nchi nyingine za Africa Mashariki hili zilahumu TANZANIA kwamba sisi ndiyo kikwazo katika zoezi zima! Waingereza usema "once bitten twice shy" matatizo tuliyo pata baada ya kuvunjika Africa Mashariki tulichekwa sana, hatuwezi kurudia makosa hayo tena na watu walio shinikiza kuvunjika kwa Africa Mashariki in the first place-tuko makini sana nao. Tutajiunga baada ya kujipanga vizuri, not under pressure kwani kuna haraka gani?
Mkuu wala usishangae unang'ag'anizi wao na baadhi yao kuwa namajigambo yasiyo na tija, deep down wanajua they cannot do without TANZANIA; hapa wana-put up a brave face tu hawataki kuwa wakweli kwamba lengo lao hasa hasa ni aridhi YETU, na kutaka ku-flood soko letu na bidhaa zao ili wakudumaze viwanda vyetu - HATUDANGANYIKI.
@Kibona
Shukrani kwa kujitokeza lakini umewasili na hisia kali raund hii! Nakubali Wakenya wanafaa elimu ya kujua kuishi vyema na wengine. Lakini wacha niseme hivi, wanaodai kufunzwa ni wale wapumbavu/(ignorant bila masomo). Utakatu ni asilimia chache tu ya waKE wanafanya biashara au wenye mali hawana elimu. Lakini wale walio na elimu ni asilimia kubwa. Kimsimgi ugumu tunaoona zimechangiwa sana na yaliotokea katika historia sana sana punde tu Afrika mashariki na nchi zake zilipopata Uhuru wa kujitawala.
Elimu inafaa ipewe wakenya na hata Watz kwa sababu tayari tumeshuhudia kizazi kikipita, na hivi watz wa sasa pia wanahitaji hayo mafunzo ya kuwa na staha na baadhi ya wengine. Mara nyingi huwa nasema na ninarudia, hamutasafiri maili nyingi kutafuta soka ya bidhaa zenu, na nchi za East Africa ndio tegemeo la kwanza mutafikiria kuuza na kununua bidhaa. Unaposema munajifahamu nyie watanzania kwamba muna rushwa na uongozi mbovu, si ni nyie munaowapigia kura hawa viongozi. Tayari unakiri pamoja na uhuru munao, hamuwezi jinusuru kutokana na kuwaingiza viongozi wafisadi na kulingana na post yako una matumaini kwamba munajielewa na mutaipiku kenya kiuchumi.
Kuna ripoti za utenda kazi mbaya katika bandari zenu na kawaida pia KE kuna hizi ripoti. Wakati huu sio wakati wakukaza shingo, bali ni wakati wa kila mmoja aangalie njia za kupunguza rushwa, na vizingiti, na siasa mbaya kwake. Usishangae Rwanda hapa jirani Uganda na Burundi wakipiga hatua katika EAC. Kwa sasa kuna ripoti hata baada ya kuondolewa kwa vizingiti baada ya mkutano wa waakilishi wa EAC, bado serikali inazuia watu na malori yao kuwatoleza dola 200, la sivyo paspoti zinachukuliwa na maafisa wa polisi kwa madai ya kuwa nchini humo bila paspoti. A very bad system ya "ugavi wa mamlaka" ambao hauheshimu baadhi ya viongozi na mwito wao.
Mradi tu tungeendeleza kile Mkapa na M7 walianzisha mwaka 2001, tungekuwa tunafungua kurasa mpya katika kuboreshwa kwa sekta za uuzaji, ununuzi, na usafirishaji wa bidhaa ndani ya Jumuiya. Lakini ndio vituko tunavyo hapa Afrika siasa za ubinafsi zinazuia maendeleo bila kujua kilicho na mwanzo hakikiosi kuwa na mwisho.
6th April 12
Non-tariff barriers impact on businesses in EAC - report
East African News Agency
Non-Tariff barriers (NTBs) continue hindering effective running of businesses in the East African Community (EAC), according to a report compiled following a recent ministerial assessment of the ports of Mombasa in Kenya and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.
Bureaucratic practices at the two ports, unnecessary roadblocks and other administrative issues, are among the main stumbling-blocks to progressive business in the region, the report says.
Many weighbridges in the northern and central corridors, the report adds, result in goods not reaching their destinations on time. Some of the affected destinations are Burundi, Rwanda and Uganda with 36 roadblocks between Mombasa and Kigali and 30 between Dar es Salaam and Rusumo border. Uganda has nine roadblocks between Malaba and Gatuna.
Rwanda and Burundi are doing better than the rest EAC member states in this regard.
The report also says lengthy procedures in issuance of work permits among EAC partner States, especially Tanzania, are a big challenge. Other problems highlighted include lack of car parks at border posts, corruption and prohibition of cargo trucks from travelling beyond 18:00 within Tanzania.
Rwandan Permanent Secretary in the Ministry of Trade and Industry Emmanuel Hategeka told a press conference in Kigali recently that negotiations to ensure total elimination of barriers were ongoing.
We are discussing with other EAC members states to reduce weighbridges, especially as regards transit cargo in the corridors, he said.
The northern and central corridors link the two ports to the hinterland. Tanzania has agreed to remove a US$200 levy imposed on Kenyan trucks and also scrapped visa charges on Kenyan traders entering the country.
Several regional truck drivers told EANA that roadblocks were an enormous challenge in the EAC.
"Roadblocks are detrimental to trade. There are many roadblocks in Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda," said a driver who declined to be named. "They are a headache and cause losses in form of bribes paid at each roadblock."
However, Rwanda Revenue Authority taxpayers service development director Drocella Mukashyaka told EANA that there were no roadblocks in the country.
The ministerial assessment team report says most of the hurdles could be prevented by weighing transit vehicles twice from the port of entry and port of exit for Kenya, Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi as Tanzania awaits a study on the establishment of the weighbridges.
THE GUARDIAN
MY TAKE
If u read the two reports i.e. the Nation and The Guardian u can clearly see the Nyang'aus agenda! Here Ippmedia went as far as telling the numbers n not loose statements of which can easily convince anyone that they were not aiming at propaganda smear games! If we look at a distance btn Dar and Rusumo and the distance between Mombasa and Kigali can someone get the calculation of the ration of weighbridges per km?
In a distance, for instance, of 1,200 kilometres from Dar es Salaam to Rusumo at the Tanzania-Rwanda border, there are about58 roadblocks which do not only reduce cargo transport efficiency but also inconvenience transporters.
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Livefire, una source yako inayosema there 58 roadblock, na Geza anayo source yake inayosema kuna 30 roadblocks!